Let me tell you: if George Michael walked onto the stage today I would be screaming like a little girl! I saw him once in the 80s and I was screaming then, too. The fact that he is gay has nothing to do with it - he is just gorgeous and is a great singer/songwriter and I love his music. When I saw Prince, I screamed for a different reason: HE WAS PRINCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The icon, the rock god, the finest singer/songwriter/musician for nearly 40 years. In my pantheon, The Beatles are #1, with Prince and Bowie sharing #2. But I would love to see George again, and he could bring it as well as anyone else out there.

I do find it odd, and a little disturbing, that some Prince fans seem to think Prince is the only artist on the planet.

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This may come as a shock to those people - he isn't.

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There are jazz artists, pop artists, rock artists, folk artists, death metal artists etc etc etc.

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I hope these Prince fans are sitting down as I'm here to tell you Prince didn't invent the guitar! I know, this is quite a shock isn't it. Oddly, Prince didn't invent the music video, nor did he invent 5.1 suround sound.

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Did you also know you are actually allowed to like more than one artist?

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I wish you well in your recovery - I hope this wasn't too much of a shock!

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darkroman said:

I do find it odd, and a little disturbing, that some Prince fans seem to think Prince is the only artist on the planet.

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This may come as a shock to those people - he isn't.

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There are jazz artists, pop artists, rock artists, folk artists, death metal artists etc etc etc.

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I hope these Prince fans are sitting down as I'm here to tell you Prince didn't invent the guitar! I know, this is quite a shock isn't it. Oddly, Prince didn't invent the music video, nor did he invent 5.1 suround sound.

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Did you also know you are actually allowed to like more than one artist?

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I wish you well in your recovery - I hope this wasn't too much of a shock!

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i hope you ain't talking to me, I'm a fan of many people, Bruce Springsteen, Little Richard, Elvis, Chuck Berry, Terence Trent D'arby just to name a couple. I like george Michael too, but he ain't in their categorty at least in my mind. He sure is troubled like many great artists are though, i'm reading up on ol boy now, he's a mess.

also, it does look like a previous poster was right, george tried to change radically with Listen without prejudice, i'd forgotten but he didn't appear in any vids for the album and didn't do any promotion, trying to let the music speak for itself. At least saleswise it did, i'm reading 8mill, not bad but I don't recall it being that big in the us. I do remember the interviews with GM still chasing his tale trying to outdo "careless whisper" after all those years. He was gifted, like I say, just maybe if he'd kept working we'd have more to judge on.

George Michael is good,

Can't compare him to Prince though...




imho...... Prince is a 1.000.000 times better, in so many ways.

PeteSilas said:

darkroman said:

I do find it odd, and a little disturbing, that some Prince fans seem to think Prince is the only artist on the planet.

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This may come as a shock to those people - he isn't.

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There are jazz artists, pop artists, rock artists, folk artists, death metal artists etc etc etc.

.

I hope these Prince fans are sitting down as I'm here to tell you Prince didn't invent the guitar! I know, this is quite a shock isn't it. Oddly, Prince didn't invent the music video, nor did he invent 5.1 suround sound.

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Did you also know you are actually allowed to like more than one artist?

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I wish you well in your recovery - I hope this wasn't too much of a shock!

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i hope you ain't talking to me, I'm a fan of many people, Bruce Springsteen, Little Richard, Elvis, Chuck Berry, Terence Trent D'arby just to name a couple. I like george Michael too, but he ain't in their categorty at least in my mind. He sure is troubled like many great artists are though, i'm reading up on ol boy now, he's a mess.

He is just trying to be funny it ain't working Looks like most Prince fans have other artists they like too. But maybe we Fans talk more about Prince here because er Prince.org darkroman

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darkroman said:

PeteSilas said:

also, it does look like a previous poster was right, george tried to change radically with Listen without prejudice, i'd forgotten but he didn't appear in any vids for the album and didn't do any promotion, trying to let the music speak for itself. At least saleswise it did, i'm reading 8mill, not bad but I don't recall it being that big in the us. I do remember the interviews with GM still chasing his tale trying to outdo "careless whisper" after all those years. He was gifted, like I say, just maybe if he'd kept working we'd have more to judge on.

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- Yes, I thought it was pretty bold that he went in another direction with ´Listen´, more introspective and avoiding promotion. He was always changing and was quite successful. Even introspective albums like Older had a hit (FastLove)

Prince was a butthole back in the day but as he got older he mellowed out.

Can we move this to the music non prince section please....it has very little to do with him

mjscarousal said:

mjscarousal said:

Prince was a butthole back in the day but as he got older he mellowed out.

- Yes, he seemed happier after 98, and in the last years, he seemed a lot more relaxed. Saw several comments about it from people who knew him.

PeteSilas said:

Yewdale said:

I have to start this by saying I'm a Prince fan of some 33 years, and I think the man was a once in a lifetime artist who I fortunately got to see live in concert twice. I bought every album, joined every website, blah, blah, blah.

Okay, with that out of the way..... what on earth are you talking about?

George Michael stole from Prince and MJ by releasing his 'versions' of one word albums? So because 'Faith' had a one word title it was his version of Thriller or Bad? That's possibly the most ludicrous statement I've ever read on here. Hmm, maybe he stole from Paul Simon and it was his version of 'Graceland' or he stole from The Beatles and it was his version of 'Revolver?' Come to think of it, I think MJ stole from The Beatles by naming all his albums with one word titles after Revolver. See.... ridiculous.

So Prince didn't do a lot of repeating himself and didn't make PR 2 or Orange Snow; what's that got to do with George Michael? George didn't do Faith 2 either, or a follow up to Older, called Older Still. If we're talking balls.... after selling 10 Million copies of Faith in the U.S with the world at his feet at the age of 24, George took a couple of years out, and instead of making Faith 2, he completely ditched his Faith image, refused to make videos, and produced a stunning album of grown up, largely un-commercial songs, that were instantly going to alienate him from 90% of the teenyboppers who adored him in 1987.

He had previous form for doing this too, having also quit Wham! in '86 (which was really GM solo anyway, with his pal standing at his side) when he was selling records by the millions. By 24 he had completely changed image twice and re-invented both himself and his sound TWICE... and by 27 he had nothing left to prove and so let the music to do the talking.

So please, don't talk to me about balls, or re-invention, or the ability to ditch fans when at the top of commercial success. Old Georgie boy been there, done that, bought the T-Shirt.

You're right in that George hasn't been nearly as Prolific as Prince, and you're right that Prince spoiled us. On that we can agree. I'm not writing this to hail George Michael as somehow better than Prince, because 1. That is always subjective and never provable one way or the other, and 2. I don't actually prefer GM to Prince. I just found many of your points to be largely of the head scratching variety.

it wasn't just the one word titles either, it was the whole image shit. It's not just George Michael, most people tend to repeat things that work really well whether it's music or any other endeavor. GM was still using the same poses into the grunge age and I can still remember thinking that he was stuck and that that kind of posturing just would not work in that era. MJ made the same mistake, just repeating the same things over and over again but i think he did acknowledge grunge/industrial with his own brand of brilliant new funk on blood on the dance floor. GM? I wouldn't know, I'd lost interest by then, i'll be honest, i never liked posers, I didn't even like a lot of things Prince did in that regard but he still was just too good to be denied. Georgie lost my interest with the mediocre "Listen Without Prejudice" not a bad album, just not as good as faith and without a single song as good as his previous hits. And, like I say, i think that 80's period of the artist as a larger than life god was tiring for the public. I think that's why grunge was able to hit like it did, of course I know that the grungers (I never liked it) were just as self-absorbed but, they stripped away all that glitz and glamour along with the ridiculous hair of the eighties. Anyway, you do have my curiosity piqued, i'll check out older but I thought listen without prejudice was mediocre, even the stevie wonder cover was bad. Don't get me wrong, i'm a wham/GM fan, always was but I don't think he's quite the artist as Prince. Still, some of those songs were utterly brilliant, personal faves, a different corner, I'm your man, I want your sex. Maybe he could have been better, he had the gifts, he certainly didn't seem to work at it like Prince.

R.I.P George

mjscarousal said:

Larry f*cking Graham....?

George Michael rest in peace...

1Sasha said:

Let me tell you: if George Michael walked onto the stage today I would be screaming like a little girl!

Yeah, that probably isn't gonna happen. What a fucked up year for deaths. Depressing.

Odd thread now

Yewdale said:

PeteSilas said:

it wasn't just the one word titles either, it was the whole image shit. It's not just George Michael, most people tend to repeat things that work really well whether it's music or any other endeavor. GM was still using the same poses into the grunge age and I can still remember thinking that he was stuck and that that kind of posturing just would not work in that era. MJ made the same mistake, just repeating the same things over and over again but i think he did acknowledge grunge/industrial with his own brand of brilliant new funk on blood on the dance floor. GM? I wouldn't know, I'd lost interest by then, i'll be honest, i never liked posers, I didn't even like a lot of things Prince did in that regard but he still was just too good to be denied. Georgie lost my interest with the mediocre "Listen Without Prejudice" not a bad album, just not as good as faith and without a single song as good as his previous hits. And, like I say, i think that 80's period of the artist as a larger than life god was tiring for the public. I think that's why grunge was able to hit like it did, of course I know that the grungers (I never liked it) were just as self-absorbed but, they stripped away all that glitz and glamour along with the ridiculous hair of the eighties. Anyway, you do have my curiosity piqued, i'll check out older but I thought listen without prejudice was mediocre, even the stevie wonder cover was bad. Don't get me wrong, i'm a wham/GM fan, always was but I don't think he's quite the artist as Prince. Still, some of those songs were utterly brilliant, personal faves, a different corner, I'm your man, I want your sex. Maybe he could have been better, he had the gifts, he certainly didn't seem to work at it like Prince.

R.I.P George

Yeah, why dig this thread up? Hopefully the mods will close it out of respect.

Your Michael Jackson fandom is showing. Really this is only one you post on.

But back to the point, don't take that quote out of context. It wasn't a public statement from Prince. Prince's press agent was leaving him temporarily for George Michael and Prince was offended . So he fired off that comment. You could have replaced 'George Michael" with any name and it would have probably been followed with "ain't shit" at that moment. That agent is kind of dick for even offering up that anecdote--he should have at least left out GM's name in the anecdote.

Prince was human. He didn't pretend to be a saint.

mjscarousal said:

Prince was a butthole back in the day but as he got older he mellowed out.

herb4 said:

1Sasha said:

Let me tell you: if George Michael walked onto the stage today I would be screaming like a little girl!

Yeah, that probably isn't gonna happen. What a fucked up year for deaths. Depressing.

I was over on FB yesterday telling someone we were just talking about him here on the org. I looked at a program this morning from the Faith tour - the only time I ever saw GM in concert. What a talent! And he went through a fight with the record company, much like Prince did. They should have been great friends in that battle. Both gone much too soon.

He mentions George Michael’s court case for the first time. It’s a subject he’ll return to with astonishing regularity and persistence. At one point, he almost shouts, “Why can’t George Michael do what he wants? Why can’t he write a ballet if he wants to?” What he is talking about is artistic freedom and its place in the future. By the end of the rant, and it is a rant, I suggest that he should get in touch with George Michael as he might find such supportive words encouraging. “Oh,” he says breezily. “We speak.”
Read more at http://www.nme.com/news/m...d3QHm87.99

We really need to lock this thread. Really disrespectful.

I'm sure Prince would trashtalk anyone when he was in the mood.

Poor George seemed to have really crippled himself creatively always trying to top his last song, couldn't let loose like Prince did. Plenty of great artists have fallen down that hole. Imagine writing both Careless Whisper and Wake me Up Before you Go Go before you turned 21. Where do you go from there? Always thought he'd manage to pull through though.

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Maybe they can change the subject heading of the thread because most of the comments have been respectful of GM and have clarified that Prince probably didn't mean entirely what he said.

BTW, I was reading Shelby J.'s facebook and she stated that she met GM at one of Prince's forum shows in 2011. She said he was real nice. Also, I don't know if you guys remember this but in 2011 Prince was going to perform for a charity in Texas that GM and his boyfriend were patrons of. It didn't work out but it was not prince's fault.

2freaky4church1 said:

We really need to lock this thread. Really disrespectful.

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