@Missmusicluver72

You're welcome.

It seems such a crying shame - if only he had been able to find other ways to deal with things that didn't involve counterfiet medicines. It really does seem that taking counterfeit medicines is like Russian roulette right now depending on where you get the stuff from - might be okay, but might kill you.

A tragic misadventure seems most likely (to me at least).

[Edited 10/24/16 15:51pm]

slowlywiltingflower said:

BillieBalloon said:

Why would his hair be a wig? With chemo you lose your eyebrows and eyelashes too. Prince still had facial hair right up to the end. Of course we don't know if he had cancer or not. What I mean is if you lose the hair on your head you lose the rest too.

First of all, let me clarify for those that don't understand: it's MY OPINION ONLY that Prince MIGHT HAVE HAD cancer, and I stated why I thought that could be a possiblity. I, unlike certain others here, don't "KNOW" anything about his medical condition beyond what has been put forth publicly -- I'm just someone whose family has worked in the medical field and someone who has certain medical conditions myself that make me either more aware of certain things or have at least a little bit of knowledge about some medical issues than the average person might be aware of. So please don't anybody start acting like I'm claiming something to be true for sure, i.e. my comment about his hair possibly being a wig. Maybe it wasn't. It's my opinion though that it very well could have been and I stated previously why I think that. (as for the facial hair, you can purchase very realistic eyebrows and eyelashes these days so his having facial hair doesn't signify with certainty, for me, that he wasn't undergoing treatment. lastly, there are all types of chemo for all types of cancers -- you don't ALWAYS lose ALL your hair. I know this for A FACT.

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I hesitated including my comment about his hair because I knew this discussion would get sidetracked by that, and I apologize for that and hope this thread wont get all derailed by it, but I decided to include my thought re: his hair because it was another reason I personally feel he might have had cancer. That's all.

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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and thoughts. I stated mine. I respect yours and everyone else's and, in the end, like you said none of us know anything for sure so this is all only speculation.

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I respect your feelings and observations. You weren't being insensitive at all, you were just telling the truth from a loving perspective. I wish to do the same.

My first impression that he might have been ill was when he made an appearance at the tennis tournament (Wimbledon, I think). I'm a huge Prince fan and I remember feeling disapponted to see him looking weak and lacking in energy, which I'd never witnessed before. So, I thought that maybe he's finally starting to age, but I felt unsettled because he was dressed so differently too, wearing comfort clothing - the navy blue sheer fabric pantsuit and wearing the huge afro. He was no longer wearing boots, he wore what looked like ortho platforms. I hadn't seen him in a good long while.

Then, when he made an appearance at an awards show he was wearing the peach colored sheer fabric suit and looking very fragile and his fro looked way messy, which was not the Prince I'd known. I noticed that his fro was different from the Wimbledon photo. From that point on his fro was wasn't the same. With all due respect, I hope it was not a wig.

He spoke normally but his energy and focus was definitely off and he seemed so sad. I am Prince's age and I've followed him all his adult life. I didn't know everything about him, but I kept up with what was in the media all these years. I felt he was trying to hide something or may he felt old and washed up standing on the stage with The Wknd and other acts. Afterwards, I saw a couple of pics with he and KJ getting off a plane and he looked seriously

ill. I started crying because I knew something was going wrong with Prince.

There is no way a person who's been with someone for over 25 years would not know they had health problems.

slowlywiltingflower said:

BillieBalloon said:

Why would his hair be a wig? With chemo you lose your eyebrows and eyelashes too. Prince still had facial hair right up to the end. Of course we don't know if he had cancer or not. What I mean is if you lose the hair on your head you lose the rest too.

First of all, let me clarify for those that don't understand: it's MY OPINION ONLY that Prince MIGHT HAVE HAD cancer, and I stated why I thought that could be a possiblity. I, unlike certain others here, don't "KNOW" anything about his medical condition beyond what has been put forth publicly -- I'm just someone whose family has worked in the medical field and someone who has certain medical conditions myself that make me either more aware of certain things or have at least a little bit of knowledge about some medical issues than the average person might be aware of. So please don't anybody start acting like I'm claiming something to be true for sure, i.e. my comment about his hair possibly being a wig. Maybe it wasn't. It's my opinion though that it very well could have been and I stated previously why I think that. (as for the facial hair, you can purchase very realistic eyebrows and eyelashes these days so his having facial hair doesn't signify with certainty, for me, that he wasn't undergoing treatment. lastly, there are all types of chemo for all types of cancers -- you don't ALWAYS lose ALL your hair. I know this for A FACT.

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I hesitated including my comment about his hair because I knew this discussion would get sidetracked by that, and I apologize for that and hope this thread wont get all derailed by it, but I decided to include my thought re: his hair because it was another reason I personally feel he might have had cancer. That's all.

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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and thoughts. I stated mine. I respect yours and everyone else's and, in the end, like you said none of us know anything for sure so this is all only speculation.

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I respect your feelings and observations. You weren't being insensitive at all, you were just telling the truth from a loving perspective. I wish to do the same.

My first impression that he might have been ill was when he made an appearance at the tennis tournament (Wimbledon, I think). I'm a huge Prince fan and I remember feeling disapponted to see him looking weak and lacking in energy, which I'd never witnessed before. So, I thought that maybe he's finally starting to age, but I felt unsettled because he was dressed so differently too, wearing comfort clothing - the navy blue sheer fabric pantsuit and wearing the huge afro. He was no longer wearing boots, he wore what looked like ortho platforms. I hadn't seen him in a good long while.

Then, when he made an appearance at an awards show he was wearing the peach colored sheer fabric suit and looking very fragile and his fro looked way messy, which was not the Prince I'd known. I noticed that his fro was different from the Wimbledon photo. From that point on his fro was wasn't the same. With all due respect, I hope it was not a wig.

He spoke normally but his energy and focus was definitely off and he seemed so sad. I am Prince's age and I've followed him all his adult life. I didn't know everything about him, but I kept up with what was in the media all these years. I felt he was trying to hide something or may he felt old and washed up standing on the stage with The Wknd and other acts. Afterwards, I saw a couple of pics with he and KJ getting off a plane and he looked seriously

ill. I started crying because I knew something was going wrong with Prince.

There is no way a person who's been with someone for over 25 years would not know they had health problems.

slowlywiltingflower said:

BillieBalloon said:

Why would his hair be a wig? With chemo you lose your eyebrows and eyelashes too. Prince still had facial hair right up to the end. Of course we don't know if he had cancer or not. What I mean is if you lose the hair on your head you lose the rest too.

First of all, let me clarify for those that don't understand: it's MY OPINION ONLY that Prince MIGHT HAVE HAD cancer, and I stated why I thought that could be a possiblity. I, unlike certain others here, don't "KNOW" anything about his medical condition beyond what has been put forth publicly -- I'm just someone whose family has worked in the medical field and someone who has certain medical conditions myself that make me either more aware of certain things or have at least a little bit of knowledge about some medical issues than the average person might be aware of. So please don't anybody start acting like I'm claiming something to be true for sure, i.e. my comment about his hair possibly being a wig. Maybe it wasn't. It's my opinion though that it very well could have been and I stated previously why I think that. (as for the facial hair, you can purchase very realistic eyebrows and eyelashes these days so his having facial hair doesn't signify with certainty, for me, that he wasn't undergoing treatment. lastly, there are all types of chemo for all types of cancers -- you don't ALWAYS lose ALL your hair. I know this for A FACT.

-

I hesitated including my comment about his hair because I knew this discussion would get sidetracked by that, and I apologize for that and hope this thread wont get all derailed by it, but I decided to include my thought re: his hair because it was another reason I personally feel he might have had cancer. That's all.

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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and thoughts. I stated mine. I respect yours and everyone else's and, in the end, like you said none of us know anything for sure so this is all only speculation.

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I respect your feelings and perspective. You weren't being insensitive at all, you were just telling the truth from a woman's point of view.

My first impression that he might have been ill was when he made an appearance at the tennis tournament (Wimbledon, I think). I'm a huge Prince fan and I remember feeling disapponted to see him looking weak and lacking in energy. I thought that maybe he's finally starting to age, but I felt unsettled because he was dressed so differently too. I hadn't seen him in a long while.

When he made an appearance at an awards show he was wearing the peach colored sheer fabric suit and looking very fragile. I noticed that his fro was different from the Wimbledon photo. From that point on his fro was wasn't the same.

He spoke normally but his energy and focus was definitely different and he looked sad. I am Prince's age and I've followed him since my teen years. I thought he was trying to hide something or maybe he felt old school standing beside the and other acts. I sensed something was wrong.

slowlywiltingflower said:

BillieBalloon said:

Why would his hair be a wig? With chemo you lose your eyebrows and eyelashes too. Prince still had facial hair right up to the end. Of course we don't know if he had cancer or not. What I mean is if you lose the hair on your head you lose the rest too.

First of all, let me clarify for those that don't understand: it's MY OPINION ONLY that Prince MIGHT HAVE HAD cancer, and I stated why I thought that could be a possiblity. I, unlike certain others here, don't "KNOW" anything about his medical condition beyond what has been put forth publicly -- I'm just someone whose family has worked in the medical field and someone who has certain medical conditions myself that make me either more aware of certain things or have at least a little bit of knowledge about some medical issues than the average person might be aware of. So please don't anybody start acting like I'm claiming something to be true for sure, i.e. my comment about his hair possibly being a wig. Maybe it wasn't. It's my opinion though that it very well could have been and I stated previously why I think that. (as for the facial hair, you can purchase very realistic eyebrows and eyelashes these days so his having facial hair doesn't signify with certainty, for me, that he wasn't undergoing treatment. lastly, there are all types of chemo for all types of cancers -- you don't ALWAYS lose ALL your hair. I know this for A FACT.

-

I hesitated including my comment about his hair because I knew this discussion would get sidetracked by that, and I apologize for that and hope this thread wont get all derailed by it, but I decided to include my thought re: his hair because it was another reason I personally feel he might have had cancer. That's all.

-

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and thoughts. I stated mine. I respect yours and everyone else's and, in the end, like you said none of us know anything for sure so this is all only speculation.

-

I respect your feelings and your perspective. You weren't being insensitive at all, you were just stating your opinion.

My first impression that he might have been ill was when he made an appearance at the tennis tournament. I'm a huge Prince fan and I remember feeling disapponted to see him holding a cane while looking so weak and lacking in energy. I thought that maybe he's finally starting to age but I felt unsettled because he was dressed so differently. I hadn't seen him in a long while.

When he made an appearance at an awards show he was wearing the peach colored sheer fabric suit and looking fragile, not like himself. From that point on his fro was wasn't the same. He spoke normally but his energy and focus was definitely different. I am Prince's age and I've followed him since my teen years. I thought he was trying to hide something or maybe he felt old school standing beside the and other acts. I sensed something was wrong that night.

DiamondsnPearls44 said:

oliviacamron said:

DiamondsnPearls44 said:

no one should die alone...it's just not suppose to happen that way...truly sad.

And don't you feel kinda guilty? I never met the man and I feel guilty like I should have been there [Edited 10/24/16 22:18pm]

actually I kinda do...I feel like if he had asked for help maybe some of his fans like myself wouldve been happy to help or care for him

for me it's finding my place in the world..as I'm getting older, I am experiencing more loss, both my parents, my marriage, my kids are grown… my youth..I have to start redefying my place in the world..I was a daughter, a wife, a young woman, a caretaker and now I'm not..certain things in my life helped me know my place..Prince had a place too..he was part of growing up..he was my age..he gave me my music...he offered something to look forward to, something to count on.something to enjoy..then just like that..gone..His death has added to my search for my place..my world is off balance and I want it back the way it was..and it's not going to happen..

DiamondsnPearls44 said:

ldmendes said:

for me it's finding my place in the world..as I'm getting older, I am experiencing more loss, both my parents, my marriage, my kids are grown… my youth..I have to start redefying my place in the world..I was a daughter, a wife, a young woman, a caretaker and now I'm not..certain things in my life helped me know my place..Prince had a place too..he was part of growing up..he was my age..he gave me my music...he offered something to look forward to, something to count on.something to enjoy..then just like that..gone..His death has added to my search for my place..my world is off balance and I want it back the way it was..and it's not going to happen..

best wishes to u idmendes. i appreciate what your saying. i'm in a similar space right now. my losses are different to yours but they came in quick succession starting in december and it left me spinning. i thought, briefly, that i had lost my mind. i spent a month with my mom back in may and that helped. when i got back to my house(across the country) i was down the well again. prince's music has been the soundtrack to my life. his death is making me find a different soundtrack to this new season of my life. i don't really want to and i haven't figured out how to. i can't see the way forward right now, hopefully soon.

He died alone in his own home. Millions of people do! I live on my own. No family living in the vicinity. Go to bed alone every night. And I'm pretty content with that right now. I've got loads of friends, but they sure as hell ain't round here every minute of the day and staying the night every night, that would drive me crazy!

I imagine I'd have to be dead for quite a few days before anyone would really notice. But I don't think that's a big deal... until I started to get a bit whiffy, of course, LOL!

Some people need to be able to potter around alone in their own space and then, when they're in the mood, they invite folk round or go out. It's perfectly possible to be alone without being lonely. Especially if you've got a creative obsession going on in your life

So... unless we home-aloners are involved in a natural disaster or something of that ilk, the chances of us leaving this dimension with all our nearest and dearest around our bed holding our hands and bidding us a fond farewell are exceptionally slim.

[Edited 10/25/16 9:30am]

Prince did not fear being alone, in fact he actively chose it in many parts of his life. He chose to spend lots of time out of the limelight and with himself. That's fine. Creative and deep thinking people often need that space. So I don't think this would have been sad for him at all, in fact he may have deliberately kept people away and chosen it to be alone when the time came. He was a very spiritual person and i'm sure he'd feel he was going to God anyhow, so I think the last thing he would feel is alone.

[Edited 10/25/16 9:47am]

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Just my opinion. Prince looked so bad. Fragile and thin, his face all gaunt in the end. I don't think he could have gone on much longer that way. I don't even think he wanted to. It's all so sad.

PRNluv2 said:

daingermouz2020 sa

Yeah, I'd started to notice something just wasn't right with Prince. I personally think he was sick.Im sure within the next two yrs someone will leak some info. The fro I personally think was a wig but I could be wrong. I feel Prince knew the end was near. His statement about waiting a fe says and not wasting ones prayers seemed creepy to me. They ruled out suicide but that was the first thing I thought upon hearing the news.

i always thought that comment about waiting a few days and saving our prayers had to do with him going to rehab. like saying "wait till u hear i'm in rehab before u start praying." by then he had been trying to cold turkey it and knew how miserable withdraw was/is. jmo

wavesofbliss said:

LyraB said:

@Missmusicluver72

You're welcome.

It seems such a crying shame - if only he had been able to find other ways to deal with things that didn't involve counterfiet medicines. It really does seem that taking counterfeit medicines is like Russian roulette right now depending on where you get the stuff from - might be okay, but might kill you.

A tragic misadventure seems most likely (to me at least).

[Edited 10/24/16 15:51pm]

I know it is very sad and suspicious. I believe he may have been trying to get help, but unfortunately, it was just too late.

Some others in this thread discussng his afro, that was his natural hair according to his hairdresser. The reason it looked a bit odd was because he was very thin and not very lean and that made it look bigger than his body in some pics. On a side note I did like it though. For me, I think the look came full circle with his younger self and his later years in life.

Prince died from taking a pill that he thought was Vicodin. The pills that were found had enough Fentanyl to kill several large men.

The question is why was Prince (the rich drug user) was getting illegal meds when he could have gotten legal scripts illegally?

I came across this article from April 28th, of an interview with Prince's former audio engineer Robert “Cubby” Colby, who worked for him from 1980-1988...overall it had some good insights into what it was like to be around at that time, Engineering and Recording stories, some funny stories about Prince's sweet tooth with Payday candy bars and how Matt Fink recalled when they took the bullhorn on the airplane and how they got arrested back in the day....Cubby was at the gathering of bandmates, musicians and associates in MN the Sunday after Prince passed, and that Monday he gave this interview...I don't know if he "slipped up" or if it was a mistake, or just speculation...but he mentioned "chemo" and Prince trying to "cure" himself...its at the last few paragraphs of the interview...the interview was done in April before the test results came out in June so Cubby didn't believe the pill stuff at that time...I'm wondering if Cubby got some inside information from friends/family/ other musicians at the gathering and mentioned it, but not realizing he was giving out a clue...or it could be a general comparison of other friends he had which chemo didn't work for them, but a Vegan lifestyle did, but he didn't mean that about Prince...? Not sure what to think, and I don't know about Prince's health either way, but wanted to put the link to the article out there...It's a good and interesting read if you have a few minutes....

http://www.prosoundnetwor...leid=46040

“It never felt like going to work. It was always something I looked forward to. Obviously the days were long. But he took such great care of himself. You can’t do the hours that he did … there was no nonsense going on.”

PSN: He was a vegan?

“I think that had a lot to do with him becoming a Jehovah’s Witness. Then the pain and all of that … so many things are coming out; I don’t believe any of it. I think it was the result of no medication, no medicine. He was such a believer that he became a vegan to cure himself. I know close friends [and] that worked for them, when chemo didn’t. He was a really slight guy. Robbie—the guy that used to go ahead to the hotels in every city—he’d get there the day before and get the hotel rooms set up; I never knew Prince carried weights around with him. He was always very fit.

SayItsJustADream said:

SayItsJustADream said:.

PSN: He was a vegan?

“I think that had a lot to do with him becoming a Jehovah’s Witness. Then the pain and all of that … so many things are coming out; I don’t believe any of it. I think it was the result of no medication, no medicine. He was such a believer that he became a vegan to cure himself. I know close friends [and] that worked for them, when chemo didn’t. He was a really slight guy. Robbie—the guy that used to go ahead to the hotels in every city—he’d get there the day before and get the hotel rooms set up; I never knew Prince carried weights around with him. He was always very fit.

this is interresting. however it reads to me that cubby's friends became vegans after a cancer diagnosis, not prince. more like a steve jobs thing. cubby acknowledges that prince became a vegan because of the JW conversion in the first sentence. also prince's pain issues were obvious on several occassions so i'm not sure why cubby doesn't believe it. he also admitted to kevin smith and in a few interviews that his legs bothered him.

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whatever the case, i'm some one who believes the was an underlying medical condition so i wouldn't be surprised to get confirmation on that. prince ultimately died by taking a counterfeit tablet, laced with fentynl.

NotACleverName said:

SayItsJustADream said:

I came across this article from April 28th, of an interview with Prince's former audio engineer Robert “Cubby” Colby, who worked for him from 1980-1988...overall it had some good insights into what it was like to be around at that time, Engineering and Recording stories, some funny stories about Prince's sweet tooth with Payday candy bars and how Matt Fink recalled when they took the bullhorn on the airplane and how they got arrested back in the day....Cubby was at the gathering of bandmates, musicians and associates in MN the Sunday after Prince passed, and that Monday he gave this interview...I don't know if he "slipped up" or if it was a mistake, or just speculation...but he mentioned "chemo" and Prince trying to "cure" himself...its at the last few paragraphs of the interview...the interview was done in April before the test results came out in June so Cubby didn't believe the pill stuff at that time...I'm wondering if Cubby got some inside information from friends/family/ other musicians at the gathering and mentioned it, but not realizing he was giving out a clue...or it could be a general comparison of other friends he had which chemo didn't work for them, but a Vegan lifestyle did, but he didn't mean that about Prince...? Not sure what to think, and I don't know about Prince's health either way, but wanted to put the link to the article out there...It's a good and interesting read if you have a few minutes....

http://www.prosoundnetwor...leid=46040

“It never felt like going to work. It was always something I looked forward to. Obviously the days were long. But he took such great care of himself. You can’t do the hours that he did … there was no nonsense going on.”

PSN: He was a vegan?

“I think that had a lot to do with him becoming a Jehovah’s Witness. Then the pain and all of that … so many things are coming out; I don’t believe any of it. I think it was the result of no medication, no medicine. He was such a believer that he became a vegan to cure himself. I know close friends [and] that worked for them, when chemo didn’t. He was a really slight guy. Robbie—the guy that used to go ahead to the hotels in every city—he’d get there the day before and get the hotel rooms set up; I never knew Prince carried weights around with him. He was always very fit.

Hmmmm...interesting, indeed. A mystery what Cubby says regarding veganism and chemo. No idea what to think. Otherwise, what an amazing piece! Love the story about the PayDay...."nope, that ain't til Friday". More stories like that would be great! Thanks for the link SayItsJustADream

For Sure...!

I won't believe that he was a long term drug addict. It hurts to see that in print and so many people believe it without proof (IHMO). I don't think and I certainly hope he was not afraid at the time of his death...his faith was so strong and his belief system so grounded that it carried him through the years in the good and bad times. There was/is a YT vid of him when he was young and he talks about praying everynight and thanking God; he is so sincere and open that it is heartfelt...it wouldnt surprise me if he did this the rest of his life. I used to wonder if he was afraid when he stepped out onto the stage at this first coliseum concert, such as the one where is playing "Summertime" in Japan...that is one large venue. The years of the high energy concerts seemed to take its toll and he seemed to be beyond his chronological age...although illness will do that to you. It would seem though that if he had an illness and taking pain meds why would he need to go into treatment. Perhaps it was for pain managment and not treatment. While it appeared to be a "comfort" thing and/or the rock band image thing for him, the change to the new do, clothing, etc. to me, was a little drastic. There is an ongoing investigatoin and hopefully it will put some things to rest regarding his death. We may never know the whole story and may have to be at peace with that or until we get to meet him iat the big concert in the sky. Peace.

[Edited 11/1/16 4:35am]

First let me say, you are not alone with your feelings. Many of us have so many unanswered questions to the circumstances surrounding Prince's untimely death. Many of us wonder why he was all alone (supposedly) on the night of April 20, 2016. But, maybe he spent a lot of night's alone at PP? He's in God's hands now, and whatever comes out of the investigation, we all must try to accept, somehow. It is my belief that Prince took those deadly pills, not knowing what they were. I don't think he wanted to leave us. The question remains; where and who gave him those Fentanyl pills that ended his life? I wish you peace & love.

Just wanted to share with y'all, in case you didn't know, there is another thread that discusses Prince's death:

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http://prince.org/msg/7/433457

ldmendes said:

for me it's finding my place in the world..as I'm getting older, I am experiencing more loss, both my parents, my marriage, my kids are grown… my youth..I have to start redefying my place in the world..I was a daughter, a wife, a young woman, a caretaker and now I'm not..certain things in my life helped me know my place..Prince had a place too..he was part of growing up..he was my age..he gave me my music...he offered something to look forward to, something to count on.something to enjoy..then just like that..gone..His death has added to my search for my place..my world is off balance and I want it back the way it was..and it's not going to happen..

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Yea, I feel the same way. The older we get, the more loss we experience, and we search for our place in this world. We seek to find what's truly important. I have noticed as I've gotten older, I enjoy the more simpler things in life. Peace & love!