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Thread started 09/22/16 4:37pm

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What do you think Prince was ACTUALLY like?

If you act like the image doesn't exist and you take in all the accounts of people who knew him and string them together, does he appear drastically different from the Prince persona we know?

It's such a puzzle.

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Reply #1 posted 09/22/16 4:40pm

morningsong

Hyper as hell.

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Reply #2 posted 09/22/16 4:54pm

bigtimefan

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DRIVEN! I just came accross this on a fb site:

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Segmented transcripts from an exclusive Q&A chat session from the 90s when Prince answers questions [moderated via 'OnlineHost'] from members of the Purple Army

Question: How do you feel about copyright infringement and musicans sampling your music? How are you different?
TheArtst: it was cool at 1st but now it has gotten out of hand...
TheArtst: i have never seen so many bad musicians in my life
Question: Why are you doing this?
TheArtst: love4oneanother
Question: How did you first get into music?
TheArtst: head1st
Question: Do you really eat Capt. Crunch cereal?
TheArtst: yes
Question: What's your musical goal?
TheArtst: i want 2 one write the grand progression...
TheArtst: the perfect song that makes me never want 2 sing again
Question: What's your opinion on scalpers?
TheArtst: get a real job!
Question: first of all you are fabulous!!!!!second i have a copy of purple rain on purple vinyl...is this a rare copy or were there alot of them printed?
TheArtst: it is very rare...during the time when my comrades and i got along
Question: My wife an I think that you are a great musician and we were really psyched to see you get a lifetime achievement award. We've noticed that your music is taking a turn to being a little more rebellious and shocking, what has caused you to go in this dire
OnlineHost: I think that mean direction
TheArtst: this "dire" direction with my music...
TheArtst: is in response 2 the ever pressing..
TheArtst: fact that most musicians especially of tha darker persuasion...
TheArtst: usually leave this business with nada..
TheArtst: BROKE
TheArtst: such a shame
Question: You are so intense now were you like that when you were younger?...Did you always know what you wanted to do?
TheArtst: i was as intense...yes i used 2 play act my whole future..
TheArtst: i willed this whole trip...
TheArtst: ppl do not want 2 wake up 2 the universe that way..
TheArtst: but i did
TheArtst: so what..big deal..
TheArtst: want something then wish 4 it

Eventually every cloud runs out of rain.
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Reply #3 posted 09/22/16 5:10pm

ldmendes

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Totally consumed with music, and creating music

..Hello, who is it?
Yes, this is a prettyman, Princey!
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Reply #4 posted 09/22/16 5:44pm

XxAxX

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i really don't know. i always thought of him as a super hero. but, he was mortal sad

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Reply #5 posted 09/22/16 6:41pm

purplepoppy

bigtimefan said:

DRIVEN! I just came accross this on a fb site:

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Segmented transcripts from an exclusive Q&A chat session from the 90s when Prince answers questions [moderated via 'OnlineHost'] from members of the Purple Army

Question: How do you feel about copyright infringement and musicans sampling your music? How are you different?
TheArtst: it was cool at 1st but now it has gotten out of hand...
TheArtst: i have never seen so many bad musicians in my life
Question: Why are you doing this?
TheArtst: love4oneanother
Question: How did you first get into music?
TheArtst: head1st
Question: Do you really eat Capt. Crunch cereal?
TheArtst: yes
Question: What's your musical goal?
TheArtst: i want 2 one write the grand progression...
TheArtst: the perfect song that makes me never want 2 sing again
Question: What's your opinion on scalpers?
TheArtst: get a real job!
Question: first of all you are fabulous!!!!!second i have a copy of purple rain on purple vinyl...is this a rare copy or were there alot of them printed?
TheArtst: it is very rare...during the time when my comrades and i got along
Question: My wife an I think that you are a great musician and we were really psyched to see you get a lifetime achievement award. We've noticed that your music is taking a turn to being a little more rebellious and shocking, what has caused you to go in this dire
OnlineHost: I think that mean direction
TheArtst: this "dire" direction with my music...
TheArtst: is in response 2 the ever pressing..
TheArtst: fact that most musicians especially of tha darker persuasion...
TheArtst: usually leave this business with nada..
TheArtst: BROKE
TheArtst: such a shame
Question: You are so intense now were you like that when you were younger?...Did you always know what you wanted to do?
TheArtst: i was as intense...yes i used 2 play act my whole future..
TheArtst: i willed this whole trip...
TheArtst: ppl do not want 2 wake up 2 the universe that way..
TheArtst: but i did
TheArtst: so what..big deal..
TheArtst: want something then wish 4 it

love2 this!

Brand new boogie without the hero.
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Reply #6 posted 09/22/16 6:43pm

AnonymousFan

Oh God, this is so vague.

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Reply #7 posted 09/22/16 7:02pm

purplepoppy

AnonymousFan said:

Oh God, this is so vague.

What do you mean?

Brand new boogie without the hero.
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Reply #8 posted 09/22/16 7:09pm

blondie1147

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AnonymousFan said:

If you act like the image doesn't exist and you take in all the accounts of people who knew him and string them together, does he appear drastically different from the Prince persona we know?

It's such a puzzle.

I really have no idea. One would have to know someone on a personal level to really know what they are actually like. I'm gonna say whatever he was like we only saw a small portion of that. That's why I am not hard on those who are writing or who will write books in the future because the inner circle are the only ones who really knew him. I am not looking for tell alls. Just those who KNEW him personally and can share insight into the person he was off the stage and behind closed doors. Just the man, not the image.

"Don't worry about what I'm doing. Worry about why you are worried about what I am doing."
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Reply #9 posted 09/24/16 4:26pm

QueenofCardboa
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[Edited 9/26/16 21:07pm]

"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters," Donald Trump
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Reply #10 posted 09/24/16 5:25pm

Astasheiks

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morningsong said:

Hyper as hell.

thats why he could burn that stage up so good! biggrin

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Reply #11 posted 09/24/16 5:44pm

QueenofCardboa
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[Edited 9/26/16 21:07pm]

"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters," Donald Trump
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Reply #12 posted 09/24/16 6:27pm

rap

QueenofCardboard said:

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I think he;

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had social phobia,

had intimacy issues

had trust issues

was a perfectionist

was narcissistic

It think that all of these characteristics are a reaction to emotional injuries that he sustained as a child from his family of origin and his peers.

I think he had something to prove to himself and to the world.

I think he proved it.

I think that his hyper-sexual nature was a combination of having very high testosterone and being very shy.

I think he was more comfortable having sex with someone than he was with talking to that person.

Given this, he could only be truly close with women, because he was heterosexual.

I think that he was about as high functioning as anyone ever gets.

I think his belief in God made him a stronger person and helped him surmount his obstacles in life.

I think that was probably great company for the people he could be himself around, i.e. smart, interesting, funny, energetic, upbeat, knowledgeable.

I think he was cool.

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Everybody say, nothing come 2 easy
But when you got it baby, nothing come 2 hard

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lyrics from the song "Baby I'm A Star" on the album "Purple Rain"

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[Edited 9/24/16 16:28pm]

Can you elaborate?

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Reply #13 posted 09/24/16 7:33pm

LBrent

QueenofCardboard said:

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I think he;

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had social phobia,

had intimacy issues

had trust issues

was a perfectionist

was narcissistic

It think that all of these characteristics are a reaction to emotional injuries that he sustained as a child from his family of origin and his peers.

I think he had something to prove to himself and to the world.

I think he proved it.

I think that his hyper-sexual nature was a combination of having very high testosterone and being very shy.

I think he was more comfortable having sex with someone than he was with talking to that person.

Given this, he could only be truly close with women, because he was heterosexual.

I think that he was about as high functioning as anyone ever gets.

I think his belief in God made him a stronger person and helped him surmount his obstacles in life.

I think that was probably great company for the people he could be himself around, i.e. smart, interesting, funny, energetic, upbeat, knowledgeable.

I think he was cool.

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Everybody say, nothing come 2 easy
But when you got it baby, nothing come 2 hard

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lyrics from the song "Baby I'm A Star" on the album "Purple Rain"

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[Edited 9/24/16 16:28pm]

I agree.

I also think he's shown over the years that he could be very old-fashioned in ways that some might feel contradict his provocative lyrics/performances.

I've also felt he could be a collossal PITA when he wanted to be. Lol

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Reply #14 posted 09/24/16 7:58pm

QueenofCardboa
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[Edited 9/26/16 21:08pm]

"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters," Donald Trump
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Reply #15 posted 09/24/16 10:03pm

AnonymousFan

QueenofCardboard said:

rap said:

Can you elaborate?

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Some people are so socially phobic that they find superficial conversation far more difficult and scary than intimate conversations and sex.

They skip the superficial conversation part, go straight to the intimate conversation, then to the sex, if the sex is good and orgasm is reached oxytocin is released in ones body.

Oxytocin is one of the hormone that causes pair bonding.

This breaks the ice and establishes enough trust to then have more relaxed interaction on a superficial level.

It is the opposite of things getting weird after sex.

Thing start out weird before sex and become normal and comfortable after sex.

Such a pattern requires that the person be very sensitive to the chemistry of others.

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Also the more sex one has, the more sex one wants because the oxytocin released when one has an orgasm, stimulates the production of testosterone, which in tern lead to more sexual activity, hence more oxytocin, hence more testosterone and so on in a self perpetuating cycle resulting in an increasingly strong sex drive.

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And studies have shown that performers such as actors, dancers, musicians and athletes have much much higher level of testosterone than average people with average jobs. (sometimes twice as high or even higher)

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[Edited 9/24/16 20:42pm]

I think this is a decent analysis. His sex drive always bothered(s) me; he was just so unfaithful and hypocritical in his dealings with women, that it's becoming increasingly difficult to see him as a good guy.

[Edited 9/24/16 22:04pm]

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Reply #16 posted 09/25/16 1:07am

1Sasha

Either Lisa or Wendy said, after the First Avenue shows, that the band was a bit adrift because they had been "trained" by Prince how to be his band. They were taught to perform to his cues. We all know about the rehearsals - seemingly endless so that the show would be perfect. But since Prince was a teenager, he was the front man, the leader, he had the only say in his career. That type of personality doesn't end at work; we saw it permeate his interaction with the public, the media, social events, etc. It surely affected his personal life and from certain reports was not pleasant. People who have risen to his level are often not the most agreeable with others.
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Reply #17 posted 09/25/16 2:28pm

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QueenofCardboard said:

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I think he;

.

had social phobia,

had intimacy issues

had trust issues

was a perfectionist

was narcissistic

It think that all of these characteristics are a reaction to emotional injuries that he sustained as a child from his family of origin and his peers.

I think he had something to prove to himself and to the world.

I think he proved it.

I think that his hyper-sexual nature was a combination of having very high testosterone and being very shy.

I think he was more comfortable having sex with someone than he was with talking to that person.

Given this, he could only be truly close with women, because he was heterosexual.

I think that he was about as high functioning as anyone ever gets.

I think his belief in God made him a stronger person and helped him surmount his obstacles in life.

I think that was probably great company for the people he could be himself around, i.e. smart, interesting, funny, energetic, upbeat, knowledgeable.

I think he was cool.

.

Everybody say, nothing come 2 easy
But when you got it baby, nothing come 2 hard

.

lyrics from the song "Baby I'm A Star" on the album "Purple Rain"

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[Edited 9/24/16 16:28pm]

Yes I agree with all of this too - this is what I think - and he would be funny !!

Thank you for every note you left behind 💜
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Reply #18 posted 09/25/16 2:51pm

PliablyPurple

I feel as if I should preface this by qualifying my fandom. I am an old school fan who didn't take 30 years off in between. Been an active P fan since being exposed to him as a kid. And I know this is a delicate assumption to throw out there, but it's really more of a curiosity. I've always wondered if he had a mental illness, maybe schizophrenia or something similar. His talk of other identities, his beliefs in conspiracy theories, his thinking that food and water were not always necessary, beliefs in otherworldly entities...are all found in schizophrenic patients (but not limited to). I thought he was always forming a persona and some of the things he said were an attempt to cultivate that persona, but I'm not sure it's always about P trying to be mysterious. I dunno, like I said - a curiosity. Nothing more. And certainly not something that would change my perception of P if it were true.

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Reply #19 posted 09/25/16 3:54pm

AnonymousFan

PliablyPurple said:

I feel as if I should preface this by qualifying my fandom. I am an old school fan who didn't take 30 years off in between. Been an active P fan since being exposed to him as a kid. And I know this is a delicate assumption to throw out there, but it's really more of a curiosity. I've always wondered if he had a mental illness, maybe schizophrenia or something similar. His talk of other identities, his beliefs in conspiracy theories, his thinking that food and water were not always necessary, beliefs in otherworldly entities...are all found in schizophrenic patients (but not limited to). I thought he was always forming a persona and some of the things he said were an attempt to cultivate that persona, but I'm not sure it's always about P trying to be mysterious. I dunno, like I said - a curiosity. Nothing more. And certainly not something that would change my perception of P if it were true.



I don't think he had schizophrenia. He was far too together to have had that and still far too sane. If he had schizophrenia it wouldn't have gone unnoticed and he wouldn't have been able to live the life he did. If he had anything, I would guess Asperger's or Schizotypal personality disorder.
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Reply #20 posted 09/25/16 4:06pm

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Quite interesting, thanks.

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Reply #21 posted 09/25/16 4:08pm

QueenofCardboa
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[Edited 9/26/16 21:09pm]

"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters," Donald Trump
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Reply #22 posted 09/25/16 5:27pm

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Down to earth. Funny.
"I don't make the rules. I just play"
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Reply #23 posted 09/25/16 5:45pm

AnonymousFan

Lol, what about him make you think he was down to earth?

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Reply #24 posted 09/25/16 8:13pm

morningsong

Astasheiks said:



morningsong said:


Hyper as hell.




thats why he could burn that stage up so good! biggrin




:nod: exactly what I was thinking about. He loved it.
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Reply #25 posted 09/25/16 8:37pm

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I knew him he was Sweet caring funny wise & at times very sensitive he most of the time would start rants about certain topics to the point he wouldn't let go of it even after the conversation ended he spoke words of love truth & wisdom I'm forever grateful for our talks touched I miss him terribly at times he had the cutest laugh 💜
All of this and more is 4 u. With <3, sincerity and deepest care, my life with u eye share ~Prince~
Life is time time is space and space is what Eye need ~Awesome A.V~
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Reply #26 posted 09/25/16 9:09pm

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awesomeav said:

I knew him he was Sweet caring funny wise & at times very sensitive he most of the time would start rants about certain topics to the point he wouldn't let go of it even after the conversation ended he spoke words of love truth & wisdom I'm forever grateful for our talks touched I miss him terribly at times he had the cutest laugh 💜

Its clear that he Grew Evolved and e x p a n d e d himself as a Human....

In the last few years everything I have read , as spoken by others, those who knew him Confirms your diagnosis AWESOME smile

Tell us more...WHat did you talk about ?

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
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Reply #27 posted 09/25/16 10:21pm

AnonymousFan

awesomeav said:

I knew him he was Sweet caring funny wise & at times very sensitive he most of the time would start rants about certain topics to the point he wouldn't let go of it even after the conversation ended he spoke words of love truth & wisdom I'm forever grateful for our talks touched I miss him terribly at times he had the cutest laugh 💜


What'd he rant about? What made him so angry?
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Reply #28 posted 09/26/16 8:44am

PliablyPurple

Yea, the cost alone. Good god, indeed.

QueenofCardboard said:

As for belief in other worldly entities, I just have to shrug my shoulders and point out that lots of people believe in an invisible spiritual world.

And the psychiatric community is wise to avoid classifying ones beliefs in such things as a pathology.

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Reply #29 posted 09/26/16 8:56am

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QueenofCardboard said:

rap said:

Can you elaborate?

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Some people are so socially phobic that they find superficial conversation far more difficult and scary than intimate conversations and sex.

They skip the superficial conversation part, go straight to the intimate conversation, then to the sex, if the sex is good and orgasm is reached oxytocin is released in ones body.

Oxytocin is one of the hormones that causes pair bonding.

This breaks the ice and establishes enough trust to then have more relaxed interaction on a superficial level.

It is the opposite of things getting weird after sex.

Things start out weird before sex and become normal and comfortable after sex.

Such a pattern requires that the person be very sensitive to the chemistry of others.

.

Also the more sex one has, the more sex one wants because the oxytocin released when one has an orgasm, stimulates the production of testosterone, which in tern lead to more sexual activity, hence more oxytocin, hence more testosterone and so on in a self perpetuating cycle resulting in an increasingly strong sex drive.

.

And studies have shown that performers such as actors, dancers, musicians and athletes have much much higher level of testosterone than average people with average jobs. (sometimes twice as high or even higher)

.

[Edited 9/24/16 22:15pm]

spit

The world is done...
But you don't have to be.
Darkness gathers around the light...
Hold on, hold on...
There is a Light--don't let it go out!
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