StephanieThePisces said:

clairew1975 said:

Yep, that's the one......she literally posted they were dating days after the news broke. She's mentioning P (or penguin lol) every single damn day in one way or another *sigh*

Interestingly, after two months of posting incessently about "Penguin" and little stories about their very Disney, cutesy "romance", she (ironically) retweeted the Damaris and Kiran tweets about respecting Prince's privacy and keeping quiet about him and in the last day or two hasn't posted really anything about him at all.

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A lot of what she says and claims doesn't add up, and even seemingly mundane remarks she makes about the weather in MN (I live in the Twin Cities as well) often don't match up with what the actual weather here IS that day. I obviously have no proof but I suspect she doesn't even live here in Minnesota.

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Also interesting to note that on another site she describes herself in her bio as "an actress, writer, director, and visionary." I feel like this whole Twitter thing about she and Prince being in love, and all those fairytale romance anecdotes she was posting, was some kind of performance art.

But what would say?!

purplethunder3121 said:

StephanieThePisces said:

Interestingly, after two months of posting incessently about "Penguin" and little stories about their very Disney, cutesy "romance", she (ironically) retweeted the Damaris and Kiran tweets about respecting Prince's privacy and keeping quiet about him and in the last day or two hasn't posted really anything about him at all.

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A lot of what she says and claims doesn't add up, and even seemingly mundane remarks she makes about the weather in MN (I live in the Twin Cities as well) often don't match up with what the actual weather here IS that day. I obviously have no proof but I suspect she doesn't even live here in Minnesota.

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Also interesting to note that on another site she describes herself in her bio as "an actress, writer, director, and visionary." I feel like this whole Twitter thing about she and Prince being in love, and all those fairytale romance anecdotes she was posting, was some kind of performance art.

But what would say?!

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joeycocopuffs said:

“He wasn’t dreary or drowsy, or anything,” she said. The mood was peaceful, and Prince seemed like his old self. “He wanted to watch ‘Zootopia,’” the animated movie. “He loved those films. I was going to pull it up on my phone. He said: ‘No, no, no, not here. We’re going to pick a special time and place to watch that.’”

Damn,..That part really got me.
I only saw bits of that movie just the other day ago..guess i'll have to rewatch again while trying not to think of this quote.

It just makes me wonder of what he would've thought of Finding Dory if he were still alive today.

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Funny you should mention this. I took my daughter to see Finding Dory last weekend, and I couldn't get Prince off my mind. Nemo also has a prominent role in this film and I remember QuestLove's story of Prince firing him as the DJ at one of his parties because he suddenly wanted to watch Finding Nemo instead. Now, we have to see Zootopia! It seems that P. was such a delightful, impish character.

jumanji2016 said:

Is America the only place where people get upset and blame the deceased for dying? I mean, it is an inevitable part of life, whether he took maximum precaution or not...he's still the victim of the circumstance...not us. People are acting as if he's inconveniencing them or some shit.

Oh shut it. I personally am getting fed up with celebrities dying behind overdoses, this crap happens waaaaaay too fukkin' much. I sick of my heart being ripped out, and my life suffering even the slightest disruption over these folks because we MUST respect their privacy. Fine, why in the heck do I have to know their azz even exist in the first place, then they can have all the privacy they want and overdose on anything they want, and I won't care. Goody two shoes for you if you can separate yourself from it all, you are so much above us mere mortals. Here have a gold star for your grand superiority.

clairew1975 said:

No matter what, Judith Hill is going to live with what happened on that plane and the event that happened just a few days later. It's going to haunt her and I feel for her on that, but she has to lay in the bed she made. Having said that it seems to me she just didn't try hard enough to help him. Everyone around him said how he never complained or asked for help or pushed ppl away, it never occured to anyone to not take "no" or "I don't need help" as an answer? No man is an island. It's easy to sit here and say what I would've done but seriously if things went down like what she said on the plane with "Fixed eyes" that'd been it for me. I'd have asked Kirk to let me talk to him alone and make it clear to P that in light of what just happend I'm clearing my schedule and I'm gonna be Ur shadow until we get U straight. P could have dismissed me from his life in doing such a thing but atleast I'd have fought for him and with him. It makes me wonder if the reason why so many close to him didn't challenge him if they felt in their gut something was wrong, was for fear that they'd fall out of the Purple Paradise. A lot of these girls relied on him for their very livlihood as Judith pointed out she leaned on him hard and now she's on her own. For all the shoulda, woulda, coulda's, in this bottom line is there is no good, no silver lining. I just can't understand how everyone who was so close to him swears up and down there wasn't a single cause for concern leading up to this. If U look at photos of him at the Aussie shows and the final US shows U can see it written all over his face.

ohYeeeeeah said:

ohYeeeeeah said:

blue22 said:

Even though people he knew at certain times in his life were not around him at the end of his life, it will still affect them. I'm thinking of Wendy in particular, who lost a brother to an overdose. That's gotta be tough on her and Suzannah. And after P wrote a song about him, for him to succumb to similar circumstances, no wonder he distanced himself from certain people.

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The newbies were around him and he it sounds like no family were around much or at all.

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A very sad case overall.

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I know alot of musicians are on this site. Some of you may already be famous or about to be. I hope you take a page out of Prince's life and not go down the same path. Keep the right people around you at all times. And good luck. And be safe and healthy.

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The overdose, drug addicted musician story is so old and boring now.

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How about dying of old age for a change.

How stupid is that? How can one compare a junkie taking coke or heroïne and people suffering from chronic pains and who need medecine on a daily basis? Totally ignorant.

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Let me ask you a question. Do you actually read what you type before you press 'post response?Even if you are trigger-happy, do you realise there is an Edit button?

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The only thing that is stupid is your 'total ignorance'.

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It's this kind of stupidity and ignorance that is the problem with all of this in the first place. People being too side-tracked by fame and seperating 'drug addicts' who take 'street drug's from those who may or may not have a perscription. Drugs are drugs. You clearly and most certainly do not have an ounce of understanding of this very elementary and simple fact. Now that is ignorance.

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And it's your kind of ignorance that is the issue of why people treat celebrities who have perscriptions or what is speculated as such, from those who may not.

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But the most 'stupid' and 'ignorant' of all, is that you clearly have made up in your own mind that Prince was suffering from chronic pain and needed 'medecine'. I assume you meant 'medicine' (as you call it) on a daily basis. You are clearly so deeply in the recesses of media sewers that, without any hard facts, without knowing him, and without being there, you actually have shown that you 'think' that this is the case. You have no proof whatsoever.

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How stupid and ignorant is that?

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At least most people have the sense to admit that they don't know if he was in pain or if he was taking 'medicine' for pain on a 'daily basis' as you put it. What is clear in my post is that drugs are drugs and that you can make a choice, perscribed or not.

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Wow, you do have some imagination. But your response showed you to be the ignorant one.

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My suggestion to you is that before you post such diatribe, don't.

ACharmed1 said:

No matter what, Judith Hill is going to live with what happened on that plane and the event that happened just a few days later. It's going to haunt her and I feel for her on that, but she has to lay in the bed she made. Having said that it seems to me she just didn't try hard enough to help him. Everyone around him said how he never complained or asked for help or pushed ppl away, it never occured to anyone to not take "no" or "I don't need help" as an answer? No man is an island. It's easy to sit here and say what I would've done but seriously if things went down like what she said on the plane with "Fixed eyes" that'd been it for me. I'd have asked Kirk to let me talk to him alone and make it clear to P that in light of what just happend I'm clearing my schedule and I'm gonna be Ur shadow until we get U straight. P could have dismissed me from his life in doing such a thing but atleast I'd have fought for him and with him. It makes me wonder if the reason why so many close to him didn't challenge him if they felt in their gut something was wrong, was for fear that they'd fall out of the Purple Paradise. A lot of these girls relied on him for their very livlihood as Judith pointed out she leaned on him hard and now she's on her own. For all the shoulda, woulda, coulda's, in this bottom line is there is no good, no silver lining. I just can't understand how everyone who was so close to him swears up and down there wasn't a single cause for concern leading up to this. If U look at photos of him at the Aussie shows and the final US shows U can see it written all over his face.

I can't blame her, she was basically new to this circle and had NO idea of anything that was wrong prior to that incident. Fuq, she DID do SOMETHING, that says if she'd had known the deal sooner she'd of gone somewhere for advise on the situation and gotten help in time, perhaps. People are deflecting right now and she a good target, I feel for her on that.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

morningsong said:

ConsciousContact said:

blue22 said:

Even though people he knew at certain times in his life were not around him at the end of his life, it will still affect them. I'm thinking of Wendy in particular, who lost a brother to an overdose. That's gotta be tough on her and Suzannah. And after P wrote a song about him, for him to succumb to similar circumstances, no wonder he distanced himself from certain people.

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The newbies were around him and he it sounds like no family were around much or at all.

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A very sad case overall.

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I know alot of musicians are on this site. Some of you may already be famous or about to be. I hope you take a page out of Prince's life and not go down the same path. Keep the right people around you at all times. And good luck. And be safe and healthy.

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The overdose, drug addicted musician story is so old and boring now.

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How about dying of old age for a change.

How about getting over the obsession with age and celebrating the life he lived and that he may have experienced more aliveness and greatness in a week of his life than some "old" people do their whole lives.

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There is no obsession with age. Where the * did you get that? Made up in your own mind no doubt.

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You really don't know what he experienced. Simply because you have no idea obviously. A person who actually cared or had something valuable to contribute would have had a different thought to add. And if you do know him personally and know his life personally, then that's a different thing too.

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Life is about objectivity. We all see life differently. There are people of all ages that feel 'alive and great'. So you are the one with an obsession with age. People will assess their own lives as they wish. But you are guessing about the 'life he lived'. He was private so you don't know about his life. I'm basing my statements on what we know so far. That is it. Simple. No guessing with that one.

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I think you took my statement some kind of way. But I celebrate Prince in ways you would never know. I celebrate his art and creativity. That's all I know.

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Some of you need to understand that you have no idea who you are clapping at sometimes, what they know or who they know or what their history is.

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But hard facts are hard to accept at times. And you seem to struggle with that. Accepting that someone struggled with an issue can teach others how not to go the same way. If anything, here's a change to take a different path.

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Again, celebraing his life? I can celebrate his music because that is what I know. Accepting what has happened is necessary.

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laurarichardson said:

udo said:

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How much difference is there?

//Do you really need that explained to you. 😳 People are prescribed Rx and no one is given crack by their doctor. I hope you never have any surgery because you will be given pain meds and your ass will take them or you will run your head into a wall.

No one has to take anything they don't want to take. You have a choice. There are choices. Your doctor can suggest a medication. You can do the research and suggest a different one or refuse it altogether. You do not have to do anything you dont' want to do. I know people who have refused certain pain medications.

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We are not helpless.

morningsong said:

jumanji2016 said:

Is America the only place where people get upset and blame the deceased for dying? I mean, it is an inevitable part of life, whether he took maximum precaution or not...he's still the victim of the circumstance...not us. People are acting as if he's inconveniencing them or some shit.

Oh shut it. I personally am getting fed up with celebrities dying behind overdoses, this crap happens waaaaaay too fukkin' much. I sick of my heart being ripped out, and my life suffering even the slightest disruption over these folks because we MUST respect their privacy. Fine, why in the heck do I have to know their azz even exist in the first place, then they can have all the privacy they want and overdose on anything they want, and I won't care. Goody two shoes for you if you can separate yourself from it all, you are so much above us mere mortals. Here have a gold star for your grand superiority.

Another NYT article today about Judith. I hate to admit it, but I wouldn't have been able to share him. Was listening to his music at work and watching a few vids during lunch...what a guy and truly one of a kind. Even men found him beautiful. Maybe it's me, but I don't think I ever recall how one person was ever found so attractive, and desired by 99% of the population (or at least by that percent of women). I am in awe and it truly amazes me... I am part of that 99%. As others have said part of his legacy is his genius and music being rediscovered. Job well done. I am focusing on the person and his genius rather than the was he or wasn't he an addict....it doesnt matter or change anything for me...he's gone. I try and look at as it was likely his time to go. I can find some peace ane acceptance in that. Thank you.

cardinal said:

morningsong said:

I can't blame her, she was basically new to this circle and had NO idea of anything that was wrong prior to that incident. Fuq, she DID do SOMETHING, that says if she'd had known the deal sooner she'd of gone somewhere for advise on the situation and gotten help in time, perhaps. People are deflecting right now and she a good target, I feel for her on that.

i just remembered that dr drew said "fixed eyes" is NOT AT ALL a common symptom of an OD of opioids. he said he still believes that there was another condition or illness that was involved. he did mention prince's history of epilepsy and said it sounded more like a seizure, either from a bad drug combo, epilepsy, or as a complication from another disease. so we pretty much know what we knew before...squat except for the fentanyl OD from the death cert.

There might or might not be. Let's throw some dice and guess at it for eternity. Heck let's believe he's on a frikkin paradise island somewhere kicking it up with the natives. Let's make up any story we want to make us feel better, because what's true doesn't matter only the fantasy/image does, we're just crazy fanatics anyway.

cardinal said:

morningsong said:

I can't blame her, she was basically new to this circle and had NO idea of anything that was wrong prior to that incident. Fuq, she DID do SOMETHING, that says if she'd had known the deal sooner she'd of gone somewhere for advise on the situation and gotten help in time, perhaps. People are deflecting right now and she a good target, I feel for her on that.

i just remembered that dr drew said "fixed eyes" is NOT AT ALL a common symptom of an OD of opioids. he said he still believes that there was another condition or illness that was involved. he did mention prince's history of epilepsy and said it sounded more like a seizure, either from a bad drug combo, epilepsy, or as a complication from another disease. so we pretty much know what we knew before...squat except for the fentanyl OD from the death cert.

Obviously there's more to the story than what was said in that article but, really just basing things on what she said, what did she do really? Shake him? Call his name...offer to watch Zootopia? We'll never know the full extent of what she went through but when U cut thru all the junk she shouldn't have left him the next day.

While I don't put much stock in Dr Drew (Anyone remember the sex talk show in the 90's on MTV with Adam Carolla? I can't take a Dr like that seriously.) I do agree there may have been an under lying issue. As to what it's not really our business but at the same time it would certainly help to put the pieces together. Catch 22...

this Judith Hill chick is bad luck... or worse(?)...

AA1slot said:

Another NYT article today about Judith. I hate to admit it, but I wouldn't have been able to share him. Was listening to his music at work and watching a few vids during lunch...what a guy and truly one of a kind. Even men found him beautiful. Maybe it's me, but I don't think I ever recall how one person was ever found so attractive, and desired by 99% of the population (or at least by that percent of women). I am in awe and it truly amazes me... I am part of that 99%. As others have said part of his legacy is his genius and music being rediscovered. Job well done. I am focusing on the person and his genius rather than the was he or wasn't he an addict....it doesnt matter or change anything for me...he's gone. I try and look at as it was likely his time to go. I can find some peace ane acceptance in that. Thank you.

I tried to focus only on one part of the whole, it didn't last long, it's just the way I am. I could give a rat tail about him becoming an addict, I get it, it happens. What's ticking me off as a regular person dealing with people who don't have the means to barely keep a roof over their heads that fall into this very same trap/cycle, having to be creative in trying to save their life and here we are with people with damn near limitless means and somehow nobody does a thing but watch them crash and burn. It's frustrating and rather exhausting. Heck after so many unnecessary heartbreaks, Imma need some meds that'll put me in this cycle, too.

http://www.nytimes.com/20....html?_r=0

Edit to say this is starting to burn my biscuits. In this new article it's all about her. I think anyone who was trying to give her the benefit of the doubt such as myself can now point to PR stunt.

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P and Judith dated? Have u heard this podcast? The interviewer goes in depth about what Judith told her:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/24/arts/music/prince-judith-hill-plane-popcast.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

ACharmed1 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

joeycocopuffs said:

Damn,..That part really got me.
I only saw bits of that movie just the other day ago..guess i'll have to rewatch again while trying not to think of this quote.

It just makes me wonder of what he would've thought of Finding Dory if he were still alive today.

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Funny you should mention this. I took my daughter to see Finding Dory last weekend, and I couldn't get Prince off my mind. Nemo also has a prominent role in this film and I remember QuestLove's story of Prince firing him as the DJ at one of his parties because he suddenly wanted to watch Finding Nemo instead. Now, we have to see Zootopia! It seems that P. was such a delightful, impish character.

Haven't seen it yet but hopefully will soon, the reason why i mentioned that movie was because of that story with QuestLove and another source of his liking to Finding Nemo was because it's like having a big aquarium or something.

That being said, it's good to hear that P likes to watch animated films.

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wildgoldenhoney said:

Ugh where are his true friends irl?

I feel ya girl. It's a sticky situation because his real friends are being quiet yet we want answers.

wildgoldenhoney said:

Still trying to figure out how he could make that mistake of ODing soon after almost dying the first time. Maybe he OD'd on Percocet the first time but thought he would be okay with a different type of painkiller and thus got prescribed fentanyl which was too potent for him? My mind can't rest because it doesn't make sense yet to me.

From what I've read you can't use that stuff interchangeably. Fentanyl is way too potent you don't just go to your doctor and ask for it and get it, not here in the States, the doc's got to cover his azz too, unless he's stupid. If you hurt enough, you'll chance a lot of things to get relief, I'm assuming he was in that much pain especially at night, coupled with the irritation of withdrawal, he rolled the dice and lost, that's my story and I'm sticking with it.

ACharmed1 said:

ACharmed1 said:

http://www.nytimes.com/20....html?_r=0

Edit to say this is starting to burn my biscuits. In this new article it's all about her. I think anyone who was trying to give her the benefit of the doubt such as myself can now point to PR stunt.

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The show must go on.

Here we go. Blasting this person and that person for telling THEIR story. She's allowed to tell HER story. She's not badmouthing Prince. She's being very respectful of him while still telling HER story of HER time with him.

endiadj said:

Here we go. Blasting this person and that person for telling THEIR story. She's allowed to tell HER story. She's not badmouthing Prince. She's being very respectful of him while still telling HER story of HER time with him.

Ok, I'll believe you.