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Reply #30 posted 06/22/16 1:24pm

Bunsterdk

One thing I've been wondering is how many hours in each day that man had to have so many really close (especially female) friends who had a particularly close relationship with him and whom he loved. He may have used that word a lot, but something isn't right with all those claims to a special place in his heart. I think Judith was probably one who did have a close relationship with him. And I'm very glad she shared her experience.

I agree that they should respect his privacy, but also that in so doing they may do more harm than good. And so perhaps they should share at least something.

No-one has the right to know, but we get info anyway so if folks know something that could make him look better than he does now.. Well, spill the beans by all means.
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Reply #31 posted 06/22/16 2:15pm

PeteSilas

Bunsterdk said:

One thing I've been wondering is how many hours in each day that man had to have so many really close (especially female) friends who had a particularly close relationship with him and whom he loved. He may have used that word a lot, but something isn't right with all those claims to a special place in his heart. I think Judith was probably one who did have a close relationship with him. And I'm very glad she shared her experience. I agree that they should respect his privacy, but also that in so doing they may do more harm than good. And so perhaps they should share at least something. No-one has the right to know, but we get info anyway so if folks know something that could make him look better than he does now.. Well, spill the beans by all means.

nothing uncommon, in all the elvis books the guys make it sound like they had a special connection that none of the other guys had. andectdotes and stories, most of them I doubt. even, was it jon bream or neal karlen, who tried to say prince would call him up and say he loved him? I couldn't see that or the reason for it. Prince didn't really even like journalists but when you are a superstar everyone wants some limelight to spread around on themselves.

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Reply #32 posted 06/22/16 2:17pm

ForeverPaisley

Of course they should. Wouldn't you hope your famil/friends keep your privacy aftery ou leave us?
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Reply #33 posted 06/22/16 2:19pm

Bunsterdk

PeteSilas said:



Bunsterdk said:


One thing I've been wondering is how many hours in each day that man had to have so many really close (especially female) friends who had a particularly close relationship with him and whom he loved. He may have used that word a lot, but something isn't right with all those claims to a special place in his heart. I think Judith was probably one who did have a close relationship with him. And I'm very glad she shared her experience. I agree that they should respect his privacy, but also that in so doing they may do more harm than good. And so perhaps they should share at least something. No-one has the right to know, but we get info anyway so if folks know something that could make him look better than he does now.. Well, spill the beans by all means.

nothing uncommon, in all the elvis books the guys make it sound like they had a special connection that none of the other guys had. andectdotes and stories, most of them I doubt. even, was it jon bream or neal karlen, who tried to say prince would call him up and say he loved him? I couldn't see that or the reason for it. Prince didn't really even like journalists but when you are a superstar everyone wants some limelight to spread around on themselves.



That's the impression I'm left with, too.
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Reply #34 posted 06/22/16 2:25pm

PeteSilas

ForeverPaisley said:

Of course they should. Wouldn't you hope your famil/friends keep your privacy aftery ou leave us?

honestly no one's gonna care when most of us pass except our family and whatever few friends we have. and if you think you got more than a few you got problems.

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Reply #35 posted 06/22/16 2:54pm

ForeverPaisley

PeteSilas said:



ForeverPaisley said:


Of course they should. Wouldn't you hope your famil/friends keep your privacy aftery ou leave us?

honestly no one's gonna care when most of us pass except our family and whatever few friends we have. and if you think you got more than a few you got problems.



Huh. I guess I still would honour my deceased loved ones by still respecting their wishes. If they were previously a private person, I don't think it's very thoughtful to suddenly air out their private matters just because they're no longer here to object.

Maybe it's a *crazy Canadian* thing... hmm rolleyes
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Reply #36 posted 06/22/16 2:59pm

PeteSilas

ForeverPaisley said:

PeteSilas said:

honestly no one's gonna care when most of us pass except our family and whatever few friends we have. and if you think you got more than a few you got problems.

Huh. I guess I still would honour my deceased loved ones by still respecting their wishes. If they were previously a private person, I don't think it's very thoughtful to suddenly air out their private matters just because they're no longer here to object. Maybe it's a *crazy Canadian* thing... :eyeroll:

not the point i was making.

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Reply #37 posted 06/22/16 3:01pm

laytonian

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The problem about sharing info is it will fall into the hands of the tabloids. There's simply no way to keep it excusively for fans. Also if he wished to keep certain things private they should respect that. It's difficult because I understand the reasons for wanting to know but I think the only info we as fans are going to get is the cause of death...the overdose and that's it. We have to find a way to accept that and move i guess. It would help if someone confirmed WHY he was on such strong painkillers though.

Speaking to a legitimate news source (as Judith Hill did with the New York Times) is the best way to keep things out of the tabloids.

It's when things are secret/down low that the tabs can throw money at people to get them to talk.

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Reply #38 posted 06/22/16 3:26pm

babynoz

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Since Prince's death, several of his friends (Van Jones, Demaris, etc.) have commented on Twitter or wherever that they are protecting his privacy (like this from Demaris: https://twitter.com/Damar...1085883392 ).

I have such mixed feelings about people close to him who may know things about his health struggles, death circumstances, etc. keeping their knowledge private. On the one hand, props to them -- they're honoring his wishes and memory in a way that they feel respects him. On the other hands, there are those of us who have long -- in some case, many-decade -- "relationships" with Prince that, while not face-to-face, were extremely meaningful to us, too. And not knowing more about what was going with him is nearly as hard for some of uis as having an in-person friend die and simply not knowing why they're gone or what they were dealing with.

What do you orgers think? Should Prince's friends continue to respect his privacy as they did when he was alive? Or should they help ease the minds of the many of Prince's "friends" like us, by sharing more info that might help us understand? I'm not sure myself...


I don't have a right to expect anything from Prince's associates, even information that might help with healing.

I can see why people would be concerned about setting the record straight though, because of how it might impact his legacy. No one should be lied on, especially when they are not here to defend themselves.

How do you balance that? Many times when Prince was alive he didn't bother to address the many unfair and untrue things that were said about him over the years but I'm not going to be too hard on people who speak up in his defense.

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Reply #39 posted 06/22/16 4:03pm

maseratigirl

I think it would help me to know more. I do understand them wanting to continue to respect his privacy though. I will say every woman that has ever been in his life he made them feel special. I personally don't think he was involved with Judith in a romantic way although I'm sure he said those things to her. Some of these people respecting his privacy are doing so because they know nothing but since they want us to believe they were so close to him, they're pulling the respecting his privacy card. We may never know the truth.
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Reply #40 posted 06/22/16 4:52pm

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nursev said:

Dolphinking23 said:

without going into details.. maybe parts of his battle with pain can possibly help save another person's life. and I'm sure Prince would want his experience to do that.

agreed

This is true, it has already helped me. I have my eyes wide open now.

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Reply #41 posted 06/22/16 5:09pm

disch

ForeverPaisley said:

Of course they should. Wouldn't you hope your famil/friends keep your privacy aftery ou leave us?

I think they can do what they want -- it's their lives now. I'm gone.

I also don't have millions of people who have devoted time, money, heart and soul to me (or to an idea they have of me) who also might be soothed by understanding why i'm gone.

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Reply #42 posted 06/22/16 6:29pm

PeteSilas

Nodin said:

nursev said:

agreed

This is true, it has already helped me. I have my eyes wide open now.

damn right, i haven't even taken an aspirin for my migraines since, just in fucking case...

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Reply #43 posted 06/22/16 7:16pm

Mumio

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Protect his privacy? Maybe, but there's also HIPAA law to be considered and no doubt a great many are aware of or were made aware of what HIPAA is. Protection extends to the deceased.

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Reply #44 posted 06/22/16 8:23pm

RiotPaisley

There probably is a will and trusts and everyone just had to sign non disclosure statements got get what he left them.

There are probably people who prefer not to be known and I would bet money the state of MN, Channhassen, and MPLS are all beneficiaries- also having to keep his privacy. Dude had it like that.

No matter what truths anyone released or stated there will always be other theories as to what happened.

I'm glad they are respecting his wishes. It means he was truly respected and adored even by those he may have had tense relationships with. Everyone loved him because he had that shine.
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Reply #45 posted 06/23/16 6:58am

manabean84

RiotPaisley said:

There probably is a will and trusts and everyone just had to sign non disclosure statements got get what he left them. There are probably people who prefer not to be known and I would bet money the state of MN, Channhassen, and MPLS are all beneficiaries- also having to keep his privacy. Dude had it like that. No matter what truths anyone released or stated there will always be other theories as to what happened. I'm glad they are respecting his wishes. It means he was truly respected and adored even by those he may have had tense relationships with. Everyone loved him because he had that shine.

I could see that. I could see Tyka immediatly saying there is no will because she knew what her brothers wishes were.

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