OldFriends4Sale said:

Genesia said:

Deciding not to perform certain of your own works because you've decided that they are inappropriate is not censorship.

self censorship

cen·sor

ˈsensər/

noun

noun: censor; plural noun: censors

1. 1.

   an official who examines material that is about to be released, such as books, movies, news, and art, and suppresses any parts that are considered obscene, politically unacceptable, or a threat to security.

there's voluntary, as in self-inflicted censorhip, and there's involuntary censorship, as in inflicted by an authority of some kind or another. same word, different connotations, contexts

XxAxX said:

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suomynona said:

XxAxX said:

intentionally left blank

as in commentless, wordless, mute, unspeaking, silent and totally unarticulated

OldFriends4Sale said:

lezama said:

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Regarding the Black album... was that because of a conservative impulse in him or because he genuinely thought it was coming from a dark place and at that time he wanted something to express positvity?? I'm not sure. Nothing from his statements on that gives me that same impression

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The homosexuality statements and the withdrawing from the overtly sexual expression to me can be considered conservative I guess, but I dont think a statement like "the bible says this.. thus" and a statement like "gays and perverts are destroying society, destroying children... think about the children!, society's going to shit! etc etc." are equal given the earlier definition you gave.

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The burqa comments I'd say are genuinely conservative. He elaborates on the idea of order and authority and the lack of noise that you have in those societies. That's a genuine conservative argument for me. But its a social conservativism that has a strong affinity with the type of order he saw in the JW lifestyle. I don't think he'd agree with much of the politics of islamic nation-states and I don't think he'd agree with much of what "conservative" politicians say either, because as Ive inferred 3 times above, that terms means a gazillion different things.

Concerning the Black album he later said he was concerned about kids coming along and hearing the album and that being a lasting remark from him etc. It was on the edge of censorship (yet he released it anyway in 1994 to get out of his contract)but never performed anything again))

Yeah I remember that. I never really understood it thought because I never saw the Black Album as being anything but a fun, sexy, party album.

Donald Trump (Black version). Who wrote that?

lezama said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Concerning the Black album he later said he was concerned about kids coming along and hearing the album and that being a lasting remark from him etc. It was on the edge of censorship (yet he released it anyway in 1994 to get out of his contract)but never performed anything again))

Yeah I remember that. I never really understood it thought because I never saw the Black Album as being anything but a fun, sexy, party album.

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Hoping to finally get the real story behind it one of these days. If Prince had such issues with the record, he wouldn't have performed songs from it. Or allowed it to be released in '94. I thought for a while that it might have to do with upsetting Cindy Crawford, but she has since said she was a fan of the song. So the only thing I can think of is "Bob George" -- but even then, it is a silly song. It's a great album, not a single throwaway song -- unlike every record that came after Lovesexy.

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What seems most likely is that Prince told WB he wanted to release one record -- and WB told him to choose one. Then WB or Prince leaked it and it became the most bootlegged album of all-time.

Genesia said:

The burqa comments I'd say are genuinely conservative. He elaborates on the idea of order and authority and the lack of noise that you have in those societies. That's a genuine conservative argument for me. But its a social conservativism that has a strong affinity with the type of order he saw in the JW lifestyle. I don't think he'd agree with much of the politics of islamic nation-states and I don't think he'd agree with much of what "conservative" politicians say either, because as Ive inferred 3 times above, that terms means a gazillion different things.

None of that is conservative. NONE of it. Islamist societies are repressive, and about domination and control. Those are all features of leftist political philosophies like communism, socialism, and fascism.

True classical political conservatism (I'm not talking about the corporatism or religion-based political action that are painted as modern conservatism by those who wouldn't know true conservatism if it bit them in the ass) is absolutely, 100% about individual freedom and rights, and about keeping government small enough that can do no harm.

I see what youre saying. We're jumping around with definitions though. Being latino, in latin countries, conservativism would not have the definition you're using, in America I guess that's right.

Marrk said:

Donald Trump (Black version). Who wrote that?

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I know you know, but just in case anyone is curious: http://goo.gl/8MMUx3

suomynona said:

Prince also did this song as a download for NPGMC. I like it...but I like all prices songs