keenly said:

You must be scurrying away as I type to debunk my post on chemtrails.

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What will I get? Cursing? Public shaming and humiliation? Angry disapproval? Attacks to my intellect or that I'm gullible? Disinformation web sites with names like Wiki in them to make them sound legitimate and academic, while the content is designed to character assasinate the subject and cast aspersion on anyone who identifies with a stance that goes against your employer's propaganda? Go 'head Lanachan. We all gotta work and pay them bills.

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Trolls are so predictable. So tired.

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Come at me. Prove me right and reveal your true colors in front of everyone.

Icke's tribute was the most on point, and accurate memory statement that I've heard. Portions of this should be transcribed and put into whatever program or tribute booklet that's assembled.

Bluu said:

Respectful? sure. Still a headcase though. Brits know this more than any other nationality. OK yes he has interested followers and his own forum, but i remember turquoise, reptilian alien overlords, and the fact he thought he was the son of God at one point too. Certifiable.

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I got into listening to Icke a few years ago. He definatley has some wild theories. I don't agree with everything but it's interesting to explore what he says. That's just it. It's interesting to think and look outside the box. I feel it's healthy to debate some of these things without being labeled as a nutjob. Really what Icke said in this tribute about Prince sums it up. Buck the "official narrative" and there's something wrong with you. In retrospect from a very young age I was the type of kid that would ask tons of questions. The answers never really satisfied me 100%. Music aside that was my connection with Prince. Seemed like he was asking those same types of questions.

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As far as Chemtrails go I don't need some scientific proof. All I have to do is look at the sky. I'm 45 years old and I can tell you it didn't look like that 30 years ago. Not only that true Contrails dissapate rather quickly. They don't linger and haze up the sky for hours afterwards. How does one explain the days where there is not a cloud at all. Just blue sky. What? Planes and jets just were'nt flying that day? C'mon. If you look you still see the planes and jets way up there with a short little dissapating Contrail. I use my own eyes, experience and history to tell me what to believe. That's how I treat most of this type of stuff.

Lianachan said:

keenly said:

Look up. I posted links with proof.

We did go to the moon, but the footage was faked.

There's no proof of who did 9/11, mostly theories, including the ones about Muslim hjackers, no evidence for that. FBI list of 19 was proved nonsense with at least 7 men still being alive.

What we do know is that there was no real investigation and that the steel was not independantly analyzed before being shipped to China. We also know no plane hit the Pentagon.

There's no proof in any of those links. Maybe you should take this bullshit to the forum with all the other conspiracy theories. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Chemtrail

You proably believed in WMDs and that Big Pharma is trying to cure cancer

Sheep will be sheep.

Lianachan said:

keenly said:

Look up. I posted links with proof.

We did go to the moon, but the footage was faked.

There's no proof of who did 9/11, mostly theories, including the ones about Muslim hjackers, no evidence for that. FBI list of 19 was proved nonsense with at least 7 men still being alive.

What we do know is that there was no real investigation and that the steel was not independantly analyzed before being shipped to China. We also know no plane hit the Pentagon.

There's no proof in any of those links. Maybe you should take this bullshit to the forum with all the other conspiracy theories. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Chemtrail

What about this, rather rational, article that mentions the idea of using aluminum particles in order to reduce global warming? It is not from a conspiracy theory forum but from the New York Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/20....html?_r=0

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When I read that article in the NYT years ago I wasn´t even thinking of chemtrails and conspiracies, I just thought it´s a scientific article that suggests using aluminum particles sprayed into the atmosphere by airplanes.

Funny thing is that the conspiracy theorists in the link you provided also mention aluminum particles (aluminum is not really healthy but that´s a whole different topic).

Not saying that I do or don´t believe in the conspiracies, I´m just saying it seems that a few years ago this topic wasn´t such a hot potato.

babynoz said:

deepabove said:

loved his tribute and explanation too, especially the last few minutes. The Nietzsche quote was spot on:

“And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.”

Love this quote.

Right on!

KoolEaze said:

Lianachan said:

keenly said: There's no proof in any of those links. Maybe you should take this bullshit to the forum with all the other conspiracy theories. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Chemtrail

What about this, rather rational, article that mentions the idea of using aluminum particles in order to reduce global warming? It is not from a conspiracy theory forum but from the New York Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/20....html?_r=0

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When I read that article in the NYT years ago I wasn´t even thinking of chemtrails and conspiracies, I just thought it´s a scientific article that suggests using aluminum particles sprayed into the atmosphere by airplanes.

Funny thing is that the conspiracy theorists in the link you provided also mention aluminum particles (aluminum is not really healthy but that´s a whole different topic).

Not saying that I do or don´t believe in the conspiracies, I´m just saying it seems that a few years ago this topic wasn´t such a hot potato.

Aluminium is highly toxic. That is an established fact.

Icke should have stayed with the snooker at the crucible

vocalhitman said:

Apparently Prince requested a meeting with him...a nice tribute to Prince's enigma

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDwTJQuB_WI

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I could have done without the Footloose segments at the end, and wish they had used more video sources than just SOTT, UTCM and the SNL40 After Party footage. That being said, I thought it was a heartfelt tribute.

I really don't care about this person's other cockamamie theories.

EnDoRpHn said:

vocalhitman said:

Apparently Prince requested a meeting with him...a nice tribute to Prince's enigma

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDwTJQuB_WI

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I could have done without the Footloose segments at the end, and wish they had used more video sources than just SOTT, UTCM and the SNL40 After Party footage. That being said, I thought it was a heartfelt tribute.

I really don't care about this person's other cockamamie theories.

Sorry, didn't mean to sound like a kook myself -- I was referring to this other video, which incorporates Icke's spoken tribute.

I get what Icke says about Prince tapping into an energy and that people who don't, see people like Prince as weird. Prince said that he never saw himself as "weird". To him, that tapping into another energy was probably "normal" to him. I've never thought of Prince as weird, just vibing on a different level to people who think he is.

Bluu said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Chemtrails are very real...if you research there was a whistleblower that exposed what was being dispersed in the air. People have a choice if they believe or not...just like GMOs and what is really going on with our food...anyway David Icke seemed to understand why Prince was a genius and more. The music did seem to flow out of him like no other!

Nope. There is no evidence supporting "chemtrails". Furthermore what purpose would they serve if everyone on planet earth is affected by their presence? Is there an alternate planet where the Chemtrail makers live?

keenly said:

Lianachan said:

keenly said: Chem trails are bullshit. Think.

You are deluded.

Look up. EVERY SUNNY DAY skies are turned white from blue by spraying from planes.

Not where I live, and I'm in the same city as Alex Jones. Chemtrails are real, but they're not what the conspiracy-minded think. How do I know? Science. Spectrography. It's the same technique that tells us what the atmospheres of other planets and stars are composed of. Also, we see visible light crystallography often enough when formations clearly originating from contrails display halos arcs and sundogs in exactly the same way as those of naturally formed clouds. The two cloudscapes can only be composed of the same substance with the same crystal geometry; water ice. A different substance would have a different appearance. That's not to say that chemtrails have NEVER been used. Why ban something that doesn't exist, right? Also, when the US government doesn't have the brainpower or resources to crack on iPhone and has to rely on a private company to handle, do you really think government scientists have somehow devised a way to create skin-color specific biological weapons that make black people in certain neighborhoods violent - which is Prince's hair-brained theory to explain the completely racist idea that blacks are more violent than whites or asians (which he apparently believed but chose to blame on imaginary chemicals in water vapor), but private scientists know nothing about it? Government scientist start out as civilian scientists. That compartmentalization shit doesn't fly, either. Human greed and incompetence, when viewed from the bottom up in a large organization, look a lot like conspiracy. NASA conducted tests that are the closest thing to chemtrails in existance, and those were neither secret nor containing compounds dangerous to humans in the quantities used. Occam's Razor wins again.

Bluu said:

But use your best judgement: I have seen at least one very clever disinformation web site on the subject.

If you've seen any videos that make you believe that the government and/or some secret society running the world from behind the scenes has created a biological weapon capable of affecting only blacks (as described by Prince), then you have seen nothing but very clever disinformation videos.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

You don't have to believe... Maybe I have an open mind but I have read enough "proof" to believe Chemtrails exist. I also believe in a lot of what Prince thought to be very accurate. He was spreading the truth, not all will believe. Natural news is also a good read.

Prince belonged to a religious cult. That tells you where his head was at. Again I ask what is the purpose of chemtrails?

keenly said:

Lianachan said:

keenly said: There's no proof in any of those links. Maybe you should take this bullshit to the forum with all the other conspiracy theories. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Chemtrail

You proably believed in WMDs and that Big Pharma is trying to cure cancer

Sheep will be sheep.

How is what you said funny? Only people who follow Alex Jones and related sources call others sheep or sheeple. Getting your information from someone who thought martial law was about to be declared every single day for the last 20 years (but it never came), is just about as reliable as getting your information from sources that are biased the other way. Do some independant research. Not every source that contradicts your poorly researched theories will belong to a NWO shil. There are actually people out there who do science on their own. Hell, you can devise fairly simple experiments and do your own damned science. That's the only way you'll ever know for sure unless "they" are somehow controlling your mind without you knowing it.

babynoz said:

Heidi said:

. Oh my god this thread .... well its up there with the Queen of england being a lizzard and alien invasions during the olympic games. .

Scratching my head... I wouldn't expect a comment like that from someone with a sig that says "Those who danced, where thought to be quite insane by those who could not hear the music. "

computerblue77 said:

David Icke is often ridiculed here in the UK but I found that tribute really moving and really comforting. I liked the way that he described that his conciousness still exists, and I have to say I don't think I've ever agreed with him more. Very heartfelt. Thanks for putting the link on here.

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cardinal said:

computerblue77 said:

Prince belonged to a religious cult. That tells you where his head was at. Again I ask what is the purpose of chemtrails?

if you are referring to the jw religion, it is not a cult. they are described as such by more "mainstream" religions who see their alternate views as threatening. then again, the early christian church if it existed today would surely be called a cult. a bunch of people allowing themselves to be martyred for a jewish prophet who they believed raised himself from the dead? yeah, i am sure that was part and parcel of early a.d. life in palestine/israel. NOT. everyone looks radical when they exist in a small and non mainstream group.

Any religion that publishes pictures of babies who died because their members refused to give them blood transfusions in their newsletters is a cult. Any religion that imposes strict control over its members and threatens banishment for apostasy is a cult.

I have no interest in religion other than to condemn it.

Scientology, Mormonism, Jehovah Witnesses, whatever... are all cults.

MJ007 said:

Heidi said:

. Oh my god this thread .... well its up there with the Queen of england being a lizzard and alien invasions during the olympic games. .

Scratching my head... I wouldn't expect a comment like that from someone with a sig that says "Those who danced, where thought to be quite insane by those who could not hear the music. "

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Oh no I do love that quote ... and I did like David Icke' sincerity when talking about Prince.

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Its the other people in this thread who are a bit whacky ... in my opinion!

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About the quote : It applies to Prince, but it also applies to us, the fans. That's how I feel about people in my life who don't understand my Prince obsession - that they simply can't hear the music that I am dancing to.