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Thread started 04/11/16 7:43am

OldFriends4Sal
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Prince & Jill Jones 1983-1985

And the MUSIC continues...forever...

Jill Jones is 2 important 2 the Purple Rain era 2 not have a thread specific to Prince's use of her during this time. The 2nd era that should have had an Jill Jones album...

Wednsday, What Will I Do G-Spot & 1985 outtakes
Unrequited love

Her significant but underscored presence in the movie Purple Rain and her vocal work on the 4 Prince albums and music out of this period.

Factualizations Generalization Speculations

Jill Jones the Lady Cab Driver, Jill Jones the Purple Fox

All thanks 2 God:

God 4 the rain

Jill: love

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Reply #1 posted 04/11/16 8:22am

OldFriends4Sal
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"We were all such babies, so hungry for success. With Purple Rain it
became a total family affair."
JJ (Jill Jones)

P U R P L E R A I N

Screenplay
by
Albert Magnoli


Formerly Dreams by William Blinn


BEFORE HE CREATED THE MUSIC, HE LIVED EVERY BIT OF IT

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Reply #2 posted 04/11/16 8:50am

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Any contemporary reviews of her first album? Or interviews from back then?

(I know this is 83-85 but still... ^^)

A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/
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Reply #3 posted 04/11/16 9:21am

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databank said:

Any contemporary reviews of her first album? Or interviews from back then?

(I know this is 83-85 but still... ^^)

lol I'm definately going to do an Jill Jones album era 1987 thread

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Reply #4 posted 04/11/16 9:27am

NorthC

OldFriends4Sale said:



databank said:


Any contemporary reviews of her first album? Or interviews from back then?


(I know this is 83-85 but still... ^^)





lol I'm definately going to do an Jill Jones album era 1987 thread


Please do! That's one of my favourites! foodnow
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Reply #5 posted 04/11/16 9:28am

RJOrion

when i first saw Purple Rain, i thought Jill Jones was the most beautiful woman i had ever seen on the big screen...nothing i have seen since, has ever changed that...what a perfect face and hair...the most beautiful of all the most beautiful girls in the world...
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Reply #6 posted 04/11/16 9:32am

RJOrion

cool
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Reply #7 posted 04/11/16 10:01am

scorp84

Jill should've been handed the baton for Vanity 6 imo. It could've been a good segue way into her solo debut, if handled correctly.
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Reply #8 posted 04/11/16 10:10am

OldFriends4Sal
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RJOrion said:

when i first saw Purple Rain, i thought Jill Jones was the most beautiful woman i had ever seen on the big screen...nothing i have seen since, has ever changed that...what a perfect face and hair...the most beautiful of all the most beautiful girls in the world...

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Reply #9 posted 04/11/16 10:14am

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scorp84 said:

Jill should've been handed the baton for Vanity 6 imo. It could've been a good segue way into her solo debut, if handled correctly.

I say the same.

I'll end up posting more of it later, but a lot of her 'outtakes' from this period as well as from her album, a lot of the songs have a type of 'yearning' to them, yearning for her lover, or secret lover or unrequited love.
In the movie she should have have been featured musically, even if it is hearing her sing Wednesday and/or maybe her singing G-Spot with the Revolution -filling in because Prince showed up at the rehearsal late or something.

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Reply #10 posted 04/11/16 10:19am

OldFriends4Sal
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(2) INT. CLUB (1ST AVE. ST. BAR) -- NIGHT

The MECCA! The last stop for a band
before national fame.

The HUGE cavernous HALL is PACKED!
PEOPLE are DANCING like MAD! VIDEO
SCREENS with WILD GRAPHICS hang
suspended from the ceilings. Beautiful
WAITRESSES criss-cross the floor in a
frenzy.

PRINCE is CENTER-STAGE -- LIPS caressing
the mike, black, lustrous hair shining,
eyes dancing -- SINGING "Let's Get
Crazy" as the CROWD pulsates beneath the
LASER LIGHTS.

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Reply #11 posted 04/11/16 10:23am

OldFriends4Sal
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The Purple Rain description of Jill 4 the movie

samwanda:allthroughthenightb:Edie Adams. as Daisy Mae in L’il Abner….  ♥ ♥ ♥:

(18) INT. CLUB -- UPPER BAR AREA -- NIGHT

She's 18 years old, blonde and pretty in
a cute, innocent way. A Daisy Mae-type
whose emotions form so quickly, she has
trouble sorting them out.

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Reply #12 posted 04/11/16 10:26am

delirious26

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well...her acting is atrocious, but i remember thinking "why doesn't the Kid love her?! She's so pretty!"

How'm I gonna fill this empty room...
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Reply #13 posted 04/11/16 11:09am

RJOrion

OldFriends4Sale said:


The Purple Rain description of Jill 4 the movie



samwanda:allthroughthenightb:Edie Adams. as Daisy Mae in L’il Abner….  ♥ ♥ ♥:


(18) INT. CLUB -- UPPER BAR AREA -- NIGHT


She's 18 years old, blonde and pretty in
a cute, innocent way. A Daisy Mae-type
whose emotions form so quickly, she has
trouble sorting them out.





look how the light makes love to her face and hair...oh lawd...
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Reply #14 posted 04/11/16 11:14am

RJOrion

the contrast of her dark smokey eyes, with her bleach blond hair ...the sultry sexy lips on her angelic face...her soothing, cooing voice...its all just so sexy...
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OldFriends4Sal
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(18) INT. CLUB -- UPPER BAR AREA -- NIGHT

VANITY/Apollonia watches as he moves away. She
jumps up, lunges onto the dance floor,
CRASHES into a waitress, JILL, whose
tray SMASHES to the floor--

JILL
What are you retarded or
something?! Why don't you look
where you're going?

She's 18 years old, blonde and pretty in
a cute, innocent way. A Daisy Mae-type
whose emotions form so quickly, she has
trouble sorting them out. Right now
she's mad as hell -- she thinks--


VANITY / Apollonia
Sorry ... where's the office?

Jill squats, picks up the broken glasses-
-

JILL
Do you think you can just come
in here and take over?

VANITY / Apollonia
I said I'm sorry -- what do
you want me to do? Where's
the office?

Jill points -- Vanity/Apollonia hurries away --

JILL
(triumphantly)
No one's in!

Vanity/Apollonia stops dead in her tracks, does a
slow burn. She walks back to Jill--

VANITY / Apollonia
Okay, so you got me back,
fine. Listen, I'm from out of
town. I have to see the
manager, it's important. I'm
a real good singer and dancer.
I know he could use me.


JILL
Do you have any experience?

Vanity/Apollonia simmers, enunciates every word--

VANITY/Apollonia
Yeah...definitely.

JILL
Follow me.

And she turns on her heels, makes her
way through the club, moving into the
vicinity of the stage. Vanity/Apollonia follows
her reluctantly, casts a look to the
band. She spots Prince for the first
time -- stops instantly...

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Reply #16 posted 04/11/16 5:20pm

SquirrelMeat

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There is no doubt Jill held a special place with P. He didn't give her the throwaway songs. Most would agree her first album is up there with The Family and The Time.

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Reply #17 posted 04/11/16 6:31pm

purplepolitici
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She was/is gorge n underutilized smile
For all time I am with you, you are with me.
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Reply #18 posted 04/12/16 1:16am

SoulAlive

I've said this before: Jill Jones would have been a superstar if her debut album had been released in late '84 or early'85.Prince should have had her album ready to go during that time,so that she could have taken advantage of the Purple Rain hype.Imagine in late 84,her first single is "Sugar Walls".....instant smash hit for her! And after Vanity and Apollonia,everyone would have said "Finally,Prince found a female protege who can actually sing".Her career would have started with a bang!

[Edited 4/12/16 1:16am]

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OldFriends4Sal
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tugging at her arm, a puzzled look on
her face--

JILL
Here, fill this out -- I'll
have him call you.

VANITY
I don't have a phone. When
will he be back?

JILL
Well...you can try tomorrow.

VANITY
You can count on it.



Vanity hands the card back to her --
Jill reads the name, address -- looks up
puzzled--

JILL
Vanity?? Apollonia??

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OldFriends4Sal
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Dr. Everything'll Be Alright will make everything go wrong
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill
Hang tough children

He's coming!
He's coming!
Coming!

Take me away!

Sudden APPLAUSE and CRIES. Vanity and
Jill turn directly into the path of
Prince, descending the Steps of the
stage. Vanity gasps, LOCKS eyes with
him. Jill seems to jump out of her skin
-- it's obvious she has a crush on him
something awful--

JILL
Hi ya, Prince -- God I liked
that song, it's real fun.

She fidgets uncontrollably, Vanity's
card buring a hole into her hand.
Prince glances at the card, then stares
at Vanity, the ripeness of her look
paralyzing. He tears his eyes away,
puts on his sunglesses, looks toward the
stage.

18A) INT. CLUB -- NEAR STAGE -- NIGHT

MORRIS and The Time rip into a funk tune
called "Jungle Love." Their stranglehold
on the audience is instantaneous.
Morris struts across the stage like a
panther, playing to the audience with a
relish. His eyes fastened on Prince --
his pride umistakable.

PRINCE watches Morris a moment, then
eyes Vanity again. The heat between
them is apparent. Vanity's heart is
pounding, she's not sure what to do.
She keeps her eyes on Morris, hoping

PRINCE watches as Jill tacks the card to
a board behind the bar. Sizing up the
situation quickly, he again glances at
Vanity -- but her eyes are fastened on
Morris. Feeling terribly shy and
thinking there's nothing he can do to
divert her attention away from him, he
reluctantly heads for the front door.
Vanity finally hits upon something to
say, turns--

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OldFriends4Sal
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SoulAlive said:

I've said this before: Jill Jones would have been a superstar if her debut album had been released in late '84 or early'85.Prince should have had her album ready to go during that time,so that she could have taken advantage of the Purple Rain hype.Imagine in late 84,her first single is "Sugar Walls".....instant smash hit for her! And after Vanity and Apollonia,everyone would have said "Finally,Prince found a female protege who can actually sing".Her career would have started with a bang!

[Edited 4/12/16 1:16am]

mmm hmmmm

Sugar Walls
Wednesday
Manic Monday
G-Spot

what else?

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Reply #23 posted 04/12/16 10:05am

scorp84

OldFriends4Sale said:



SoulAlive said:


I've said this before: Jill Jones would have been a superstar if her debut album had been released in late '84 or early'85.Prince should have had her album ready to go during that time,so that she could have taken advantage of the Purple Rain hype.Imagine in late 84,her first single is "Sugar Walls".....instant smash hit for her! And after Vanity and Apollonia,everyone would have said "Finally,Prince found a female protege who can actually sing".Her career would have started with a bang!


[Edited 4/12/16 1:16am]





mmm hmmmm

Sugar Walls
Wednesday
Manic Monday
G-Spot




what else?





The Glamorous Life
Noon Rendezvous
Oliver's House
The Belle of St. Mark
Next Time Wipe the Lipstick Off Your Collar
I would replace "Manic Monday" with "Mia Bocca"
[Edited 4/12/16 10:07am]
[Edited 4/12/16 10:09am]
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Reply #24 posted 04/12/16 10:11am

Superfan1984

I love her. She has that IT factor that so many do not have. I wish Prince would make one last movie and put her and the Time in it - give Mayte a walk on role- would be amazing if he would do that.
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Reply #25 posted 04/12/16 10:57am

OldFriends4Sal
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scorp84 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

mmm hmmmm

Sugar Walls
Wednesday
Manic Monday
G-Spot

what else?

The Glamorous Life Noon Rendezvous Oliver's House The Belle of St. Mark Next Time Wipe the Lipstick Off Your Collar I would replace "Manic Monday" with "Mia Bocca" [Edited 4/12/16 10:07am] [Edited 4/12/16 10:09am]

I mean, Sheila E has those. I want Sheila E to be in the camp at the time...

Are there other songs that could have been included?

for me Mia Bocca (the sound is so perfectly Parade era) I wonder what the previous version sounds like...

She should have had a 1984 album and a 1986 album definately

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Reply #26 posted 04/12/16 11:09am

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FADE IN:



(23) INT. CLUB EARLY MORNING

MUSIC wafts through the sun-drenched
CLUB. Jill is seated at the PIANO, 'a
la Marlene Dietrich, SINGING to her
heart's content. A cigarette dangles
from her lip, a police cap is perched
jauntily on her head. It's a simple bar
tune, delivered slightly off-key, but
with an openness that is endearing.
Chick is working in the corner,
chuckling to himself, stacking chairs,
sweeping up.

Suddenly she stops -- listens intently.
She jumps up, deliberately spills her
orange juice on the piano. Prince comes
around the corner, stops short--

PRINCE
(surprised)
What are you doing here?

She's a bundle of loose, embarrassing
ends -- the cigarette, hat, juice--

JILL
What...what are you doing
here?




He feels caught out -- SCANS the BOARD
earnestly for Vanity's info -- tries
to think of something to say--

PRINCE
Huh ... it's kind of dead in
here. Where is everybody?


JILL
In bed I guess...
(to herself)
Oh, God ...
(changes subject)
Guess what, I bought a dog.


PRINCE
That's nice...
(he spots vanity's card)
Ah, I guess I'll come back at
a better time. You think
tonight the the place'll be
jumping?


JILL
Well, I'll be here -- I always
like what you do.


He smiles, moves to the door -- Jill
connects with a thought--

JILL
Wait! I've got something for
you.


PRINCE
What? A subpoena?

JILL
(embarrassed)
No...

She rumages through her bag, pulls out a
cassette--



JILL
It's a song Lisa and Wendy
wrote.


He stiffens, doesn't reach for it--

PRINCE
(suspicious)
Why didn't they give it to me
themselves?



JILL
Well, I liked it and wanted to
listen to it. They told me to
give it to you when I was
done.


He puts his sunglasses on, hesitates,
then takes it from her gingerly. He
regards it for a long time--

PRINCE
You really liked it, huh?

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Reply #27 posted 04/12/16 11:20am

OldFriends4Sal
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now Marlene Dietrich is used to express Jills persona

I really thing there was something lined up to have Jill Jones live during the PR era

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MUSIC wafts through the sun-drenched
CLUB. Jill is seated at the PIANO, 'a
la Marlene Dietrich, SINGING to her
heart's content. A cigarette dangles
from her lip, a police cap is perched
jauntily on her head. It's a simple bar
tune, delivered slightly off-key, but
with an openness that is endearing.

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Reply #28 posted 04/12/16 11:26am

OldFriends4Sal
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FADE IN: PR Outake:Wednesday ... I Don't Know What I'd Do...

Wednesday (sometimes erroneously known as There's No Telling What I Might Do) is an unreleased track recorded on 24 October 1983 at Prince's Kiowa Trail Home Studio, Chanhassen, MN, USA (five days before Father's Song). It was intended to be sung by Jill Jones in the movie Purple Rain and was included as the fifth track on a 7 November 1983, configuration of Purple Rain . Although it is likely that the recording is a performance by Prince with Jill Jones, it is listed here as a Prince and the Revolution recording as this is most likely how it would have been credited upon release on the Purple Rain album. The track remains unreleased.

-PrinceVault

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Reply #29 posted 04/12/16 1:31pm

SoulAlive

OldFriends4Sale said:

SoulAlive said:

I've said this before: Jill Jones would have been a superstar if her debut album had been released in late '84 or early'85.Prince should have had her album ready to go during that time,so that she could have taken advantage of the Purple Rain hype.Imagine in late 84,her first single is "Sugar Walls".....instant smash hit for her! And after Vanity and Apollonia,everyone would have said "Finally,Prince found a female protege who can actually sing".Her career would have started with a bang!

[Edited 4/12/16 1:16am]

mmm hmmmm

Sugar Walls
Wednesday
Manic Monday
G-Spot

what else?

Jill Jones debut album (release date: December 1984)

Side One---

Sugar Walls

G-Spot

Wednesday

Side Two---

Blue Limousine

All Day,All Night

Baby You're A Trip

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