madison said:

When Prince did his Piano and Microphone at Paisley Park this year ... He did " Dear Mr Man " and he sang about " taking all the guns away "

I have really lost alot respect for him for that ...

but " to each his OWN "

I love to hunt ... I severd in the US ARMY for 20 years .. I love guns but I dont over do the love for them..

I will never ever trust the US Government to proctect me and my loved ones ...

The RIGHT TO BARE ARMS

Just like to hear a diffrent take on this from the org family

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I'm sure he was being general about that, referring to more city killing violence from guns rather than taking your gun away from hunting, my take/opininon...

[Prince:]
Nobody got in nobody's way
So I guess you could say it was a good day
At least a little better than the day in Baltimore
Does anybody hear us pray
For Michael Brown or Freddie Gray?
Peace is more than the absence of war
Absence of war

[Prince & Eryn Allen Kane:]
Are we gonna see another bloody day?
We're tired of the cryin' and people dyin'
Let's take all the guns away

madison said:

I severd in the US ARMY for 20 years ..

In what branch of the service does one get to do all this 'severing'?

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MarcelS67 said:

Listening too much to the media? The NRA doctrine has really got to you right? Like Bluegangsta mentioned, check the statistics. Gun control would be a very good idea for the US. And well... If you really want to drag Prince into this for his point of view on this, check the cover of the Controversy album (35 years ago).

Did you know that the places with the worst gun violence in the United States are the places with the strictest gun control laws? You didn't? Figures.

Genesia said:

MarcelS67 said:

Listening too much to the media? The NRA doctrine has really got to you right? Like Bluegangsta mentioned, check the statistics. Gun control would be a very good idea for the US. And well... If you really want to drag Prince into this for his point of view on this, check the cover of the Controversy album (35 years ago).

Did you know that the places with the worst gun violence in the United States are the places with the strictest gun control laws? You didn't? Figures.

You'd have to be pretty ignorant of social and political science to think that's an arguement in your favour.

madison said:

When Prince did his Piano and Microphone at Paisley Park this year ... He did " Dear Mr Man " and he sang about " taking all the guns away "

I have really lost alot respect for him for that ...

but " to each his OWN "

I love to hunt ... I severd in the US ARMY for 20 years .. I love guns but I dont over do the love for them..

I will never ever trust the US Government to proctect me and my loved ones ...

The RIGHT TO BARE ARMS

Just like to hear a diffrent take on this from the org family

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Respect to you for serving in the military. And respectfully, if DOES sound like you overdo the love for guns if a singer expresses an opinion that you disagree with about guns, and you lose a lot of respect for him. That's the opposite of "to each his own." If you meant that, it wouldn't change the amount of respect you have for an entertainer. He's not exactly like you - and that's bad?

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How does a musician you (used to) like singing about a society where guns are removed threaten you any more than him singing "I wish there was no black and white" or "I wish we all were nude"?

In which little mind be part of military and do hunting is something to be proud of? you're just a murder.

Here in the United Kingdom, we cope just fine without the right to bear arms...nothing to be scared off.

bluegangsta said:

Genesia said:

Did you know that the places with the worst gun violence in the United States are the places with the strictest gun control laws? You didn't? Figures.

You'd have to be pretty ignorant of social and political science to think that's an arguement in your favour.

I was replying to the person I quoted. MYODB

Genesia said:

bluegangsta said:

You'd have to be pretty ignorant of social and political science to think that's an arguement in your favour.

I was replying to the person I quoted. MYODB

Welcome to a forum. Familiarize yourself with the concept and you'll find it a whole lot easier.

bluegangsta said:

Genesia said:

Did you know that the places with the worst gun violence in the United States are the places with the strictest gun control laws? You didn't? Figures.

You'd have to be pretty ignorant of social and political science to think that's an arguement in your favour.

Not quite . . it's rather self-evident that gun control doesn't work.

dearmrman said:

Here in the United Kingdom, we cope just fine without the right to bear arms...nothing to be scared off.

Speak for your own country, we have 300 million REGISTERED guns here

1/3 of American adults own a gun - many CRIMINALS own illegal guns. Criminals aren't going to stop going crimes with their illegal guns just because law abiding citizens are no longer able to defend themselves

This is one of those areas where you libtards lack any sense

madison said:

When Prince did his Piano and Microphone at Paisley Park this year ... He did " Dear Mr Man " and he sang about " taking all the guns away "

I have really lost alot respect for him for that ...

but " to each his OWN "

I love to hunt ... I severd in the US ARMY for 20 years .. I love guns but I dont over do the love for them..

I will never ever trust the US Government to proctect me and my loved ones ...

The RIGHT TO BARE ARMS

Just like to hear a diffrent take on this from the org family

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[Edited 4/1/16 13:46pm]

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It was your job as an employee of the federal government for 20 years to protect us, and yet you'd "never ever trust the US Government to proctect me and my loved ones ..."?

Genesia said:

MarcelS67 said:

Listening too much to the media? The NRA doctrine has really got to you right? Like Bluegangsta mentioned, check the statistics. Gun control would be a very good idea for the US. And well... If you really want to drag Prince into this for his point of view on this, check the cover of the Controversy album (35 years ago).

Did you know that the places with the worst gun violence in the United States are the places with the strictest gun control laws? You didn't? Figures.

Did you know that most of the guns used in violent crimes in Chicago come from Wisconsin and Indiana, where they have the laxest gun control laws? You didn't? Figures.

RodeoSchro said:

madison said:

When Prince did his Piano and Microphone at Paisley Park this year ... He did " Dear Mr Man " and he sang about " taking all the guns away "

I have really lost alot respect for him for that ...

but " to each his OWN "

I love to hunt ... I severd in the US ARMY for 20 years .. I love guns but I dont over do the love for them..

I will never ever trust the US Government to proctect me and my loved ones ...

The RIGHT TO BARE ARMS

Just like to hear a diffrent take on this from the org family

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[Edited 4/1/16 13:46pm]

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It was your job as an employee of the federal government for 20 years to protect us, and yet you'd "never ever trust the US Government to proctect me and my loved ones ..."?

The naivety of your point of view is an instant palm to face moment

nonamesleft said:

Of course the answer is more guns. Arm the teachers, arm the citizens, get fully automatic assault rifles in as many hands as possible. Only then will people feel truly safe. FFS America, once a great country.

He's funny . . but it's just comedy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9iYvyffAh4

Thizz said:

bluegangsta said:

Not quite . . it's rather self-evident that gun control doesn't work.

dearmrman said:

Here in the United Kingdom, we cope just fine without the right to bear arms...nothing to be scared off.

Speak for your own country, we have 300 million REGISTERED guns here

1/3 of American adults own a gun - many CRIMINALS own illegal guns. Criminals aren't going to stop going crimes with their illegal guns just because law abiding citizens are no longer able to defend themselves

This is one of those areas where you libtards lack any sense

And yet in the UK...criminals also have illegal guns...and the general law abiding public copes just fine without the need to bear arms.

When its much harder/expensive for a crook to get a gun, you will find fewer crooks that have guns. The serious ones, like bank robbers, will find a way but an absense of gun culture, like in the UK, keeps guns out of the hands of petty criminals the not-so-smart. If you're gonna rob a house in the USA, you probably need a gun, because you may have to face a gun. No so elsewhere. Anyway, its kind of a negative cultural thing: The States has its gun culture. Other countries have their own things that outsiders think are dumb. But if your part of the culture you won't see it as outsiders do.

You should never take your political cues from musicians. Prince or otherwise.

I love Prince and spend lots of money on his albums and concert tickets.

That being said, he's a a musician. The guy makes music. Why is his opinion any more valid than anyone else. Is he more educated on the issue? Who knows?! Who cares?!

I don't care what Prince's political views are, as long as he makes music that speaks to me.

As for my political views (and religious views for that matter), I'll take care of them on my own.

Now if I'm looking for information on songwriting, instruments, playing solos, setting up a stage, recording stuff, I'd definately take his opinion seriously.

My $0.02

Chas

Thizz said:

bluegangsta said:

Not quite . . it's rather self-evident that gun control doesn't work.

dearmrman said:

Here in the United Kingdom, we cope just fine without the right to bear arms...nothing to be scared off.

Speak for your own country, we have 300 million REGISTERED guns here

1/3 of American adults own a gun - many CRIMINALS own illegal guns. Criminals aren't going to stop going crimes with their illegal guns just because law abiding citizens are no longer able to defend themselves

This is one of those areas where you libtards lack any sense

Thizz said:

rasskinn said:

It's a win win for gun/arms manufacturors. Sell ppl guns to protect themselves from ppl who bought guns to protect themselves. One thing is hunting, other thing is selling assault weapons to the general public. Gun control don't mean gun ban, it means fewer idiots carrying assault weapons. Look at statistics, more ppl killed by home-owned guns than ever by terrorists in the states, yet billions are spent fighting terrorists. Seriously?

I was very happy to hear P call for gun control. It does not mean a person hates guns or wants to ban them or wants to prevent ppl from hunting. It means sensible distribution for sensible use.

There's no such thing as an "assault rifle" . . assault is verb. rifles are inanimate objects not capable of their own action

The statistics are skewed and used to appeal to the emotion of people like yourself. In reality most of those statistics include such suicide - so such a statistic has no credibility as someone determined enough to kill themselves can also jump off a bridge. See: Golden Gate Bridge

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Thizz said:

RodeoSchro said:

It was your job as an employee of the federal government for 20 years to protect us, and yet you'd "never ever trust the US Government to proctect me and my loved ones ..."?

The naivety of your point of view is an instant palm to face moment

It was a question, not a point of view. Please explain your comment.

Thizz said:

bluegangsta said:

Not quite . . it's rather self-evident that gun control doesn't work.

dearmrman said:

Here in the United Kingdom, we cope just fine without the right to bear arms...nothing to be scared off.

Speak for your own country, we have 300 million REGISTERED guns here

1/3 of American adults own a gun - many CRIMINALS own illegal guns. Criminals aren't going to stop going crimes with their illegal guns just because law abiding citizens are no longer able to defend themselves

This is one of those areas where you libtards lack any sense

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Using fear to smother rational debate is a weak cop out. As are your one liner arguments and ridiculous descriptions of assault rifles being inanimate objects. The statistics don't lie. Yes they can manipulate stats but it doesn't change the fact that the USA has had more deaths caused by your own people on temper tantrum tirades, carrying inanimate objects than terrorism.

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This conservative argument of so called 'purity' based on a 1700's law stating the right to bear arms has no place in today's society. Back then a gun took 30 seconds to reload for one bullet whereas today's assault rifles can unload how many bullets in the same time? Expecting an old law to still adequately cover modern day high tech weaponry is no different than expecting construction workers of skyscrapers to dig holes with spades.

I'm not in favour of hunting but I understand the argument from decent civilians who want to carry out a hobby. But they don't need assault rifles for that.

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As has been reiterated in this thread, millions of citizens world-wide live in mostly violent free societies in multitudes of countries without the 'right to bear arms' and we are decent nations. Violence breeds violence. So by all means go ahead and arm yourselves as much as possible and think nothing of possible future victims. Maybe one day when it's your child hit in a school by some crazed Father's son who taught them guns were cool and necessary, you might see the other side's argument.

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It's a billion dollar industry and they've got the perfect market of 300 million in the USA, half of who imo wouldn't recognise freedom if they fell over it on the street. The USA is the laughing stock of the world in all this and it's a pity that half of the nation doesn't have the humility to compare itself honestly to other continents and see where they might grow up. Americans are seldom aware of opinions of cultures outside their own borders and that is one of their biggest tradegies. That is what I call ignorance and arrogance.

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-https://www.youtube.com/w...-KI1D5NPJs Let your hard-drive control your inner chimp.

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^ Thizz. Don't tell me your arguments are not emotionally grounded. Your opinions are not your own and you have definitely been influenced from somebody, somewhere and by the society you live in.

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As for Prince needing body-guards. That is a fact of life that fanatics can get carried away and he's not a big guy, I would take protection as well. Baltimore's 'take all the guns away' is an artisitic view put in melodious poetry to state a wish that many more than just him are in favour of. It's not saying 'follow it' it's saying 'think about it'. Are there other alternatives before we close our mind to change because we're too comfortable in what's familiar.

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Chas said:

NorthC said:

Chas said:

You should never take your political cues from musicians. Prince or otherwise.

I love Prince and spend lots of money on his albums and concert tickets.

That being said, he's a a musician. The guy makes music. Why is his opinion any more valid than anyone else. Is he more educated on the issue? Who knows?! Who cares?!

I don't care what Prince's political views are, as long as he makes music that speaks to me.

As for my political views (and religious views for that matter), I'll take care of them on my own.

Now if I'm looking for information on songwriting, instruments, playing solos, setting up a stage, recording stuff, I'd definately take his opinion seriously.

My $0.02

Chas

"Songs aren't going to change the world."- Bob Dylan.

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They might not change the world but they plant the seed and many still sing the lyrics decades after.

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"Imagine there's no heaven......" #Brussels

Guns breed gun karma. We don't need guns to survive. We don't need guns tp hurt others.

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NorthC said:

Chas said:

You should never take your political cues from musicians. Prince or otherwise.

I love Prince and spend lots of money on his albums and concert tickets.

That being said, he's a a musician. The guy makes music. Why is his opinion any more valid than anyone else. Is he more educated on the issue? Who knows?! Who cares?!

I don't care what Prince's political views are, as long as he makes music that speaks to me.

As for my political views (and religious views for that matter), I'll take care of them on my own.

Now if I'm looking for information on songwriting, instruments, playing solos, setting up a stage, recording stuff, I'd definately take his opinion seriously.

My $0.02

Chas

"Songs aren't going to change the world."- Bob Dylan.

And who the hell is Bob Dylan.

NorthC said:

^Shabtai Zisel ben Avraham a.k.a Robert Allan Zimmerman. Does that answer your question?

Not at all, soory i've never heard of that guy.

i wish

JIM JEFFERIES would come live close to me ..

I bet he would own a GUN ... He makes me laugh ...

I almost died laughing ... maybe they should take away all the stand ups ...

I guess we should armed with ninja stars and swords.. the bad the thing all the crooks get their hands on nice GUNS ...

once you get robbed a gun point then you will understand .... until then enjoy the jokes and the stand ups .... just hope its not a HOLD UP or STICK UP !!!

babynoz said: