Thread started 03/05/16 11:04ampaulludvig |
1978 version of Sometimes it Snows in April Dez is auctioning off a tape of old Prince demos. One of the songs featured is Sometimes it Snows in April. The demo is from 1978! Does anyone have more info on this? The wooh is on the one! |
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Reply #1 posted 03/05/16 11:08am
nayroo2002
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Do you have a link to the auction? "Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends" |
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Reply #2 posted 03/05/16 11:13am
Reply #3 posted 03/05/16 11:31am
IstenSzek |
On side B, Prince had his work versions of 6 songs, which I left intact for, at that time, unknown reasons (obviously, we now know it preserved a piece of musical history)." The Side B, containing Prince's songs, opens with an early, acoustic version of "So Blue", followed by two unreleased love songs with bouncy, upbeat choruses and risque lyrics. Next is an early version of "Gotta Broken Heart Again", which later appeared on Prince's seminal "Dirty Mind" album. The fourth track features heavy guitar distortion and a chorus that include very candid sexual pleas from Prince. The tape ends with a very early, virtually unrecognizable version of "Sometimes it Snows in April", with only a couple of lines from the chorus making the final cut onto the later version of the song that's featured on the "Parade" album, released some eight years after this tape was created. The audio quality on the tape is very good, with Prince's voice very clear and the overall sound still quite sharp. Tape is offered as collector's piece only and does not come with rights for reproduction, manufacturing or distribution. Cassette is housed in its plastic cover with "Prince Worktape '78" handwritten on it by Dez. From the collection of Dez Dickerson. and true love lives on lollipops and crisps |
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Reply #4 posted 03/05/16 11:42am
Connected |
Blimey! Mayte must be buying a new house!
To sell a hand-written marriage proposal is a bit sad really
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Reply #5 posted 03/05/16 12:31pm
paulludvig |
IstenSzek said:
On side B, Prince had his work versions of 6 songs, which I left intact for, at that time, unknown reasons (obviously, we now know it preserved a piece of musical history)." The Side B, containing Prince's songs, opens with an early, acoustic version of "So Blue", followed by two unreleased love songs with bouncy, upbeat choruses and risque lyrics. Next is an early version of "Gotta Broken Heart Again", which later appeared on Prince's seminal "Dirty Mind" album. The fourth track features heavy guitar distortion and a chorus that include very candid sexual pleas from Prince. The tape ends with a very early, virtually unrecognizable version of "Sometimes it Snows in April", with only a couple of lines from the chorus making the final cut onto the later version of the song that's featured on the "Parade" album, released some eight years after this tape was created. The audio quality on the tape is very good, with Prince's voice very clear and the overall sound still quite sharp. Tape is offered as collector's piece only and does not come with rights for reproduction, manufacturing or distribution. Cassette is housed in its plastic cover with "Prince Worktape '78" handwritten on it by Dez. From the collection of Dez Dickerson.
This is completely new informaion, right? Has anyone heard this version? The wooh is on the one! |
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Reply #6 posted 03/05/16 12:32pm
Guitarhero |
IstenSzek said:
On side B, Prince had his work versions of 6 songs, which I left intact for, at that time, unknown reasons (obviously, we now know it preserved a piece of musical history)." The Side B, containing Prince's songs, opens with an early, acoustic version of "So Blue", followed by two unreleased love songs with bouncy, upbeat choruses and risque lyrics. Next is an early version of "Gotta Broken Heart Again", which later appeared on Prince's seminal "Dirty Mind" album. The fourth track features heavy guitar distortion and a chorus that include very candid sexual pleas from Prince. The tape ends with a very early, virtually unrecognizable version of "Sometimes it Snows in April", with only a couple of lines from the chorus making the final cut onto the later version of the song that's featured on the "Parade" album, released some eight years after this tape was created. The audio quality on the tape is very good, with Prince's voice very clear and the overall sound still quite sharp. Tape is offered as collector's piece only and does not come with rights for reproduction, manufacturing or distribution. Cassette is housed in its plastic cover with "Prince Worktape '78" handwritten on it by Dez. From the collection of Dez Dickerson.
So Sometimes it Snows in April was acutally always a Prince song and W&L added something to the Parade version. Me thinks people give too much credit to other people in his bands without prove.
[Edited 3/5/16 12:36pm] |
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Reply #7 posted 03/05/16 12:33pm
langebleu moderator |
ALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift. |
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Reply #8 posted 03/05/16 12:36pm
paulludvig |
langebleu said:
See this thread: http://prince.org/msg/5/422248
Yes, I know. But I meant this thread to be about an early version of SISA and not about Mayte or Dez. The wooh is on the one! |
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Reply #9 posted 03/05/16 12:36pm
paulludvig |
Guitarhero said:
IstenSzek said:
On side B, Prince had his work versions of 6 songs, which I left intact for, at that time, unknown reasons (obviously, we now know it preserved a piece of musical history)." The Side B, containing Prince's songs, opens with an early, acoustic version of "So Blue", followed by two unreleased love songs with bouncy, upbeat choruses and risque lyrics. Next is an early version of "Gotta Broken Heart Again", which later appeared on Prince's seminal "Dirty Mind" album. The fourth track features heavy guitar distortion and a chorus that include very candid sexual pleas from Prince. The tape ends with a very early, virtually unrecognizable version of "Sometimes it Snows in April", with only a couple of lines from the chorus making the final cut onto the later version of the song that's featured on the "Parade" album, released some eight years after this tape was created. The audio quality on the tape is very good, with Prince's voice very clear and the overall sound still quite sharp. Tape is offered as collector's piece only and does not come with rights for reproduction, manufacturing or distribution. Cassette is housed in its plastic cover with "Prince Worktape '78" handwritten on it by Dez. From the collection of Dez Dickerson.
So Sometimes it Snows in April was acutally always a Prince song and W&L added something to the Parade version. Me thinks people give too much credit to other people in his bands without prove.
[Edited 3/5/16 12:36pm]
Yup. The wooh is on the one! |
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Reply #10 posted 03/05/16 12:56pm
iZsaZsa |
paulludvig said:
IstenSzek said:
On side B, Prince had his work versions of 6 songs, which I left intact for, at that time, unknown reasons (obviously, we now know it preserved a piece of musical history)." The Side B, containing Prince's songs, opens with an early, acoustic version of "So Blue", followed by two unreleased love songs with bouncy, upbeat choruses and risque lyrics. Next is an early version of "Gotta Broken Heart Again", which later appeared on Prince's seminal "Dirty Mind" album. The fourth track features heavy guitar distortion and a chorus that include very candid sexual pleas from Prince. The tape ends with a very early, virtually unrecognizable version of "Sometimes it Snows in April", with only a couple of lines from the chorus making the final cut onto the later version of the song that's featured on the "Parade" album, released some eight years after this tape was created. The audio quality on the tape is very good, with Prince's voice very clear and the overall sound still quite sharp. Tape is offered as collector's piece only and does not come with rights for reproduction, manufacturing or distribution. Cassette is housed in its plastic cover with "Prince Worktape '78" handwritten on it by Dez. From the collection of Dez Dickerson.
This is completely new informaion, right? Has anyone heard this version? I have not, but I know it's the best thing ever. What? |
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Reply #11 posted 03/05/16 1:51pm
paulludvig |
iZsaZsa said:
paulludvig said:
This is completely new informaion, right? Has anyone heard this version?
I have not, but I know it's the best thing ever.
The wooh is on the one! |
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Reply #12 posted 03/05/16 6:15pm
OldFriends4Sal e |
Guitarhero said:
IstenSzek said:
On side B, Prince had his work versions of 6 songs, which I left intact for, at that time, unknown reasons (obviously, we now know it preserved a piece of musical history)." The Side B, containing Prince's songs, opens with an early, acoustic version of "So Blue", followed by two unreleased love songs with bouncy, upbeat choruses and risque lyrics. Next is an early version of "Gotta Broken Heart Again", which later appeared on Prince's seminal "Dirty Mind" album. The fourth track features heavy guitar distortion and a chorus that include very candid sexual pleas from Prince. The tape ends with a very early, virtually unrecognizable version of "Sometimes it Snows in April", with only a couple of lines from the chorus making the final cut onto the later version of the song that's featured on the "Parade" album, released some eight years after this tape was created. The audio quality on the tape is very good, with Prince's voice very clear and the overall sound still quite sharp. Tape is offered as collector's piece only and does not come with rights for reproduction, manufacturing or distribution. Cassette is housed in its plastic cover with "Prince Worktape '78" handwritten on it by Dez. From the collection of Dez Dickerson.
So Sometimes it Snows in April was acutally always a Prince song and W&L added something to the Parade version. Me thinks people give too much credit to other people in his bands without prove.
[Edited 3/5/16 12:36pm]
virtually unrecognizable version of "Sometimes it Snows in April",
which means it probably sounds nothing like the Parade release
if this is even what it is...
Lisa Coleman: “Sometimes It Snows In April” was really the pinnacle of our relationship together [with Prince]. The three of us had kind of a love affair. And when we wrote that song– again– it was just the three of us sitting together in a room. I really loved it, and I had hoped we would follow that trail further, you know? Like make a whole record like that or something. But, that didn’t happen.
http://www.playbsides.com/?p=881
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Reply #13 posted 03/05/16 7:00pm
KCOOLMUZIQ
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Guitarhero said:
IstenSzek said:
On side B, Prince had his work versions of 6 songs, which I left intact for, at that time, unknown reasons (obviously, we now know it preserved a piece of musical history)." The Side B, containing Prince's songs, opens with an early, acoustic version of "So Blue", followed by two unreleased love songs with bouncy, upbeat choruses and risque lyrics. Next is an early version of "Gotta Broken Heart Again", which later appeared on Prince's seminal "Dirty Mind" album. The fourth track features heavy guitar distortion and a chorus that include very candid sexual pleas from Prince. The tape ends with a very early, virtually unrecognizable version of "Sometimes it Snows in April", with only a couple of lines from the chorus making the final cut onto the later version of the song that's featured on the "Parade" album, released some eight years after this tape was created. The audio quality on the tape is very good, with Prince's voice very clear and the overall sound still quite sharp. Tape is offered as collector's piece only and does not come with rights for reproduction, manufacturing or distribution. Cassette is housed in its plastic cover with "Prince Worktape '78" handwritten on it by Dez. From the collection of Dez Dickerson.
So Sometimes it Snows in April was acutally always a Prince song and W&L added something to the Parade version. Me thinks people give too much credit to other people in his bands without prove.
[Edited 3/5/16 12:36pm]
Exactly! That's why Eye love that is doing this Piano&Microphone tour. It proves who really wrote those mAsTeRpIeCeS . Plus puts a stop to The Revolution reunite he needs them rumors.
doesn't need ANYONE! They needed him & still do... will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. |
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Reply #14 posted 03/05/16 7:00pm
mynameisnotsus an |
Connected said: Blimey! Mayte must be buying a new house! To sell a hand-written marriage proposal is a bit sad really Right - or mortgage payments are overdue or something. She got ALOT of wedding China to clear out. It's like she backed her SUV into his wardrobe when she left and scooped it all up, grabbed the shoe rack and was like "C'YA!!" |
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Reply #15 posted 03/05/16 8:44pm
jtfolden |
Guitarhero said:
So Sometimes it Snows in April was acutally always a Prince song and W&L added something to the Parade version. Me thinks people give too much credit to other people in his bands without prove.
[Edited 3/5/16 12:36pm]
No.
"virtually unrecognizable version of "Sometimes it Snows in April", with only a couple of lines from the chorus making the final cut onto the later version"
W&L and Prince wrote the version on Parade together. Given the above info it sounds like Prince's contribution may have included lyrics he had previously written... |
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Reply #16 posted 03/05/16 9:06pm
bluegangsta
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OldFriends4Sale said:
Guitarhero said:
So Sometimes it Snows in April was acutally always a Prince song and W&L added something to the Parade version. Me thinks people give too much credit to other people in his bands without prove.
[Edited 3/5/16 12:36pm]
virtually unrecognizable version of "Sometimes it Snows in April",
which means it probably sounds nothing like the Parade release
if this is even what it is...
My thoughts exactly. I'm thinking it migh bare the slightest resembelance to the released song, but really have nothing to do with it. [Edited 3/5/16 21:06pm] Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain. |
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Reply #17 posted 03/05/16 9:07pm
bluegangsta
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KCOOLMUZIQ said:
Guitarhero said:
So Sometimes it Snows in April was acutally always a Prince song and W&L added something to the Parade version. Me thinks people give too much credit to other people in his bands without prove.
[Edited 3/5/16 12:36pm]
Exactly! That's why Eye love that is doing this Piano&Microphone tour. It proves who really wrote those mAsTeRpIeCeS . Plus puts a stop to The Revolution reunite he needs them rumors.
doesn't need ANYONE! They needed him & still do...
Given how on the current tour, Prince has been pointing out 'Lisa wrote this part...', I doubt even he would agree with such a fatuous statement. Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain. |
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Reply #18 posted 03/05/16 9:20pm
KCOOLMUZIQ
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bluegangsta said:
KCOOLMUZIQ said:
Exactly! That's why Eye love that is doing this Piano&Microphone tour. It proves who really wrote those mAsTeRpIeCeS . Plus puts a stop to The Revolution reunite he needs them rumors.
doesn't need ANYONE! They needed him & still do...
Given how on the current tour, Prince has been pointing out 'Lisa wrote this part...', I doubt even he would agree with such a fatuous statement.
Only on ONE song Raspberry Beret'. She wrote only a tiny musical chorus. Doesn't equal decades of musical compositions he wrote alone. Wendy even admits that. will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. |
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Reply #19 posted 03/05/16 9:32pm
bluegangsta
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KCOOLMUZIQ said:
bluegangsta said:
Given how on the current tour, Prince has been pointing out 'Lisa wrote this part...', I doubt even he would agree with such a fatuous statement.
Only on ONE song Raspberry Beret'. She wrote only a tiny musical chorus. Doesn't equal decades of musical compositions he wrote alone. Wendy even admits that.
Which is more credit than he's given anyone else in his 40+ year career. Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain. |
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Reply #20 posted 03/05/16 11:07pm
BigChick |
There's no way that tape would sell for $20,000. It's completely unrealistic. Maybe $5,000 to $7,500 tops. I also doubt that you could call the track "Sometimes it Snows in April"#1 either. He might say that phrase possibly but its not the same song idea at all. As for the other auction items, the prices that are being ask are really for more recognizable or iconic type pieces. The Rave outfit would kind of be one but at that price you would really need the jacket. I have a few stage worn costome pieces that I bought in the early 2000's and the prices were reasonable. I doubt any of that will move unless someone really wants an emancipation/jam of the year era scarf or a wedding plate.
Big Chick
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Reply #21 posted 03/06/16 2:36am
paulludvig |
bluegangsta said:
OldFriends4Sale said:
virtually unrecognizable version of "Sometimes it Snows in April",
which means it probably sounds nothing like the Parade release
if this is even what it is...
My thoughts exactly. I'm thinking it migh bare the slightest resembelance to the released song, but really have nothing to do with it.
[Edited 3/5/16 21:06pm]
It means he had ideas as early as '78 that ended up in the song seven or eight years later. Who knows what he added between '78 and '85? The wooh is on the one! |
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Reply #22 posted 03/06/16 5:25am
RJOrion |
60, 000 for that old acoustic Gibson?...good luck with that...wasnt that supposed to be Owen Husney's guitar?... |
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Reply #23 posted 03/06/16 6:43am
KCOOLMUZIQ
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But touched & christened it... will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. |
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Reply #24 posted 03/06/16 6:53am
OldFriends4Sal e |
KCOOLMUZIQ said:
bluegangsta said:
Given how on the current tour, Prince has been pointing out 'Lisa wrote this part...', I doubt even he would agree with such a fatuous statement.
Only on ONE song Raspberry Beret'. She wrote only a tiny musical chorus. Doesn't equal decades of musical compositions he wrote alone. Wendy even admits that.
Dude, lol
Were you expecting him to do a run down of every song, that she worked with him on? And every detail? Even Morris and Lisa say they both did a lot of work with Prince that became the protege music or some of his music.
What Prince said about Raspberry Beret, he was just giving a tidbit, she was obviously with him in the creation of the song, he did not go from beginning to ending of how the song was fully done, nor who all did what.
Prince from the time he had Lisa in the band had her work a lot with him.
Lisa was never an explosive keyboard player, but she was a master of color in her harmonies; I could sing off of what she had with straight soul.
I remember when Miles Davis came to my house. As he was passing by my piano, he stopped and put his hands down on the keys and played these eight chords, one after the other. It was so beautiful; he sounded like Bill Evans or Lisa [Coleman], who also had this way of playing chords that were so perfect.
-Prince 1997 |
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Reply #25 posted 03/06/16 6:55am
OldFriends4Sal e |
mynameisnotsusan said:
Connected said:
Blimey! Mayte must be buying a new house!
To sell a hand-written marriage proposal is a bit sad really
Right - or mortgage payments are overdue or something. She got ALOT of wedding China to clear out. It's like she backed her SUV into his wardrobe when she left and scooped it all up, grabbed the shoe rack and was like "C'YA!!"
LOL |
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Reply #26 posted 03/06/16 7:14am
KCOOLMUZIQ
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OldFriends4Sale said:
KCOOLMUZIQ said:
Only on ONE song Raspberry Beret'. She wrote only a tiny musical chorus. Doesn't equal decades of musical compositions he wrote alone. Wendy even admits that.
Dude, lol
Were you expecting him to do a run down of every song, that she worked with him on? And every detail? Even Morris and Lisa say they both did a lot of work with Prince that became the protege music or some of his music.
What Prince said about Raspberry Beret, he was just giving a tidbit, she was obviously with him in the creation of the song, he did not go from beginning to ending of how the song was fully done, nor who all did what.
Prince from the time he had Lisa in the band had her work a lot with him.
Lisa was never an explosive keyboard player, but she was a master of color in her harmonies; I could sing off of what she had with straight soul.
I remember when Miles Davis came to my house. As he was passing by my piano, he stopped and put his hands down on the keys and played these eight chords, one after the other. It was so beautiful; he sounded like Bill Evans or Lisa [Coleman], who also had this way of playing chords that were so perfect.
-Prince 1997
first said in the first Minneapolis Piano & Microphone Gala show that Lisa created it. But clarified in the second show that she "contributed a tiny chorus part of Raspberry Beret' that he wrote".
Why do U always try to undermine EVERYTHING does? What kind of Moderator are U?
Btw Lisa is my all time favorite keyboard & background vocal contributor..Her chords are intoxicating..Eye love Lisa. But tired of the Wendy & Lisa really created this song BS.
They didn't HE did.... will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. |
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Reply #27 posted 03/06/16 7:26am
OldFriends4Sal e |
KCOOLMUZIQ said:
OldFriends4Sale said:
Dude, lol
Were you expecting him to do a run down of every song, that she worked with him on? And every detail? Even Morris and Lisa say they both did a lot of work with Prince that became the protege music or some of his music.
What Prince said about Raspberry Beret, he was just giving a tidbit, she was obviously with him in the creation of the song, he did not go from beginning to ending of how the song was fully done, nor who all did what.
Prince from the time he had Lisa in the band had her work a lot with him.
Lisa was never an explosive keyboard player, but she was a master of color in her harmonies; I could sing off of what she had with straight soul.
I remember when Miles Davis came to my house. As he was passing by my piano, he stopped and put his hands down on the keys and played these eight chords, one after the other. It was so beautiful; he sounded like Bill Evans or Lisa [Coleman], who also had this way of playing chords that were so perfect.
-Prince 1997
first said in the first Minneapolis Piano & Microphone Gala show that Lisa created it. But clarified in the second show that she "contributed a tiny chorus part of Raspberry Beret' that he wrote".
Why do U always try to undermine EVERYTHING does? What kind of Moderator are U?
Btw Lisa is my all time favorite keyboard & background vocal contributor..Her chords are intoxicating..Eye love Lisa. But tired of the Wendy & Lisa really created this song BS.
They didn't HE did....
lol that sound foolish of you. I always try to undermine EVERYTHING Prince does? Prove that please. I might disagree with ALOT of what YOU do, you don't represent Prince
I'm a wonderful Moderate Moderator
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Reply #28 posted 03/06/16 9:01am
RJOrion |
"You're too wet for Prince man"
#GAME OVER |
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Reply #29 posted 03/06/16 10:34am
TrevorAyer |
KCOOLMUZIQ said:
OldFriends4Sale said:
KCOOLMUZIQ said:
Only on ONE song Raspberry Beret'. She wrote only a tiny musical chorus. Doesn't equal decades of musical compositions he wrote alone. Wendy even admits that.
Dude, lol
Were you expecting him to do a run down of every song, that she worked with him on? And every detail? Even Morris and Lisa say they both did a lot of work with Prince that became the protege music or some of his music.
What Prince said about Raspberry Beret, he was just giving a tidbit, she was obviously with him in the creation of the song, he did not go from beginning to ending of how the song was fully done, nor who all did what.
Prince from the time he had Lisa in the band had her work a lot with him.
Lisa was never an explosive keyboard player, but she was a master of color in her harmonies; I could sing off of what she had with straight soul.
I remember when Miles Davis came to my house. As he was passing by my piano, he stopped and put his hands down on the keys and played these eight chords, one after the other. It was so beautiful; he sounded like Bill Evans or Lisa [Coleman], who also had this way of playing chords that were so perfect.
-Prince 1997
first said in the first Minneapolis Piano & Microphone Gala show that Lisa created it. But clarified in the second show that she "contributed a tiny chorus part of Raspberry Beret' that he wrote". Why do U always try to undermine EVERYTHING does? What kind of Moderator are U? Btw Lisa is my all time favorite keyboard & background vocal contributor..Her chords are intoxicating..Eye love Lisa. But tired of the Wendy & Lisa really created this song BS. They didn't HE did.... By your own purple flavoured logic prince wrote "a case of u" |
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