Since Tidal is artists owned, why does it , IMHO, appear that Mr Nelson is doing a lot of heavy lifting for them? what are the other artists doing in that vain? I dont see that much similar content being offered..Just curious,,Its like is his playground at present | |
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meticulosly crafted: as in "hodgepodge I've had laying around plus tracks you've already heard and payed for". . HITNRUN PHASE TWO was recorded fully in analog, giving it a lushness and human quality that defies the current computer-driven trend prevalent in practically all popular music today.: what lushness? the album is mastered so poorly it almost sounds like an AM radio station at parts, with drums that completely clip through the recording. . an instant standout: well, its miles better than Phase I, but that's not saying much. Other than LAMLAY and the IMO fantastic Groovy Potential (which are hard to listen to due to the amateur-level mastering), this collection is just the same old "elevator" R&B and "i'm funky" jams he's been doing for the past decade now... [Edited 12/14/15 7:42am] |
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Excellent review from Popmatters, murph. Thanks for posting! "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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lwr001 said: Since Tidal is artists owned, why does it , IMHO, appear that Mr Nelson is doing a lot of heavy lifting for them? what are the other artists doing in that vain? I dont see that much similar content being offered..Just curious,,Its like is his playground at present Well Willow Smith released her MEGA album on Tidal. | |
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Baltimore, Stare, Screwdriver, Xtra Loveable and Groovy Potential r similar as far as I can tell but have been if not slightly remixed at least mastered differently, they have a different sound texture I'd say. R&L Love Affair has new horns. Big City is the unreleased studio version. Thez 5 remaining tracks were officially unreleased on any form if i'm not mistaken (though some had leaked on bootleg form as live or PA versions) A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ |
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Genesia said: Okay, before I buy this... 6 new/unreleased songs, that are on the whole very good. . The other 6 you will have. No remixes, the RNR affair is slightly different but Josh hasn't put lasers, slowed down voices or chimps on any of this. Makes Phase One seem like a bad dream. | |
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Pretty sure they all sound a little different - horns have definitely been added all over the place (in a good way) and there's more interesting percussion going on. Baltimore in particuar sounds a lot better now. |
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Extraloveable is different too, Andy's rap has been replaced with a nicely arranged funky horn part. Most of the older songs seem to have a little more "punch" to them. I know Prince going back and tinkering and adding more is often a dicey proposition, but it seems to have worked well this time around. Plus it makes these older songs sound fresh again next to the newer tracks. [Edited 12/14/15 9:17am] |
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KingSausage said: Excellent review from Popmatters, murph. Thanks for posting! Thought you said aoa was better than the internet songs like Baltimore screwdriver 2youg2dare groovey potential big city etc so i would be surprised if you enjoy it. I actually was disappointed with aoa when it came out as thought the internet only songs blew aoa out water . Only class song I thought on aoa was breakdown otherwise mediocre |
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master said: KingSausage said: Excellent review from Popmatters, murph. Thanks for posting! Thought you said aoa was better than the internet songs like Baltimore screwdriver 2youg2dare groovey potential big city etc so i would be surprised if you enjoy it. I actually was disappointed with aoa when it came out as thought the internet only songs blew aoa out water . Only class song I thought on aoa was breakdown otherwise mediocre I've always liked Groovy Potential and RNRLA. Screwdriver has grown on me. Baltimore still sucks, but Phase Two works if I start it with RNRLA anyway. I had never heard studio versions of 2Y2D or Big City. I still like AOA more than Phase Two. But that could change. (And for what it's worth, a lot of people here predicted I would change my opinion about Phase One. That hasn't happened. I still think it sucks ass.) "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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The Guardian review (seems they dig it too)....But I think the writer needs to chill with bringing up his first HitNRun Phase 1 review and (again) comparing it to LoveSexy...That's just nutty as all fuck...lol
But this new review, again, makes some strong points....He is ga ga for Black Muse and Revelation, especially....
----------------------------------------- HITnRun Phase 2
It makes perfect sense – or, at least, as much sense as we’re ever likely to get from Prince – that his latest album project comes in two instalments, the first released in September and its sister suddenly dropped on us unawares. He is, after all, a man of two halves.
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Simon Price may be right about Screwdriver being the weakest track on the album but he's dead wrong about Groovy Potential | |
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I was quick enough to slate phase one. This is much better particularly Black Muse and Big City. | |
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thanks2joniandu said: Simon Price may be right about Screwdriver being the weakest track on the album but he's dead wrong about Groovy Potential
AGREED. Groovy Potential is amazing. [Edited 12/14/15 10:21am] "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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KingSausage said: master said: Thought you said aoa was better than the internet songs like Baltimore screwdriver 2youg2dare groovey potential big city etc so i would be surprised if you enjoy it. I actually was disappointed with aoa when it came out as thought the internet only songs blew aoa out water . Only class song I thought on aoa was breakdown otherwise mediocre I've always liked Groovy Potential and RNRLA. Screwdriver has grown on me. Baltimore still sucks, but Phase Two works if I start it with RNRLA anyway. I had never heard studio versions of 2Y2D or Big City. I still like AOA more than Phase Two. But that could change. (And for what it's worth, a lot of people here predicted I would change my opinion about Phase One. That hasn't happened. I still think it sucks ass.) I probably had heard some songs you didn't before. Phase one reminded me of 2unlimited album but worse.Phase one was o.k. i.. I just remembered you saying how bad all songs had been in build up to aoa and it was a relief that none made the album. Aoa is a bizarre album .I think this is more standard stuff. But at least it is quality [Edited 12/14/15 10:53am] |
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master said: KingSausage said: I've always liked Groovy Potential and RNRLA. Screwdriver has grown on me. Baltimore still sucks, but Phase Two works if I start it with RNRLA anyway. I had never heard studio versions of 2Y2D or Big City. I still like AOA more than Phase Two. But that could change. (And for what it's worth, a lot of people here predicted I would change my opinion about Phase One. That hasn't happened. I still think it sucks ass.) I probably had heard some songs you didn't before. Phase one reminded me of 2unlimited album but worse.Phase one was o.k. i.. I just remembered you saying how crap all songs had been in build up to aoa and it was a relief that none made the album.Maybe you were talking about different songs. I was probably drunk. "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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lwr001 said: Since Tidal is artists owned, why does it , IMHO, appear that Mr Nelson is doing a lot of heavy lifting for them? what are the other artists doing in that vain? I dont see that much similar content being offered..Just curious,,Its like is his playground at present I read today that Taylor Swiff is going to stream a concert exclusively on tidal. | |
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tatocorcu said: lwr001 said: Since Tidal is artists owned, why does it , IMHO, appear that Mr Nelson is doing a lot of heavy lifting for them? what are the other artists doing in that vain? I dont see that much similar content being offered..Just curious,,Its like is his playground at present I read today that Taylor Swiff is going to stream a concert exclusively on tidal. You spelled "Apple Music" wrong. "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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KingSausage said: tatocorcu said: I read today that Taylor Swiff is going to stream a concert exclusively on tidal. You spelled "Apple Music" wrong. I was probably drunk... | |
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tatocorcu said: KingSausage said: You spelled "Apple Music" wrong. I was probably drunk... Cheers! "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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It got a nice write-up in the Indie as well: http://www.independent.co...73056.html Am pretty psyched to give this a listen now but I'm going to have to wait until it's available on its own as I don't really want to buy Phase 1 as well, I have absolutely no interest in owning it. Heavenly wine and roses seems to whisper to me when you smile...
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I'd like most of them to get album releases--just please not on the same album! That wouuld be an absolute mess. | |
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Thanks for the link....
For those who want to check it The Independent review, here ya go....
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Prince, HITnRUN Phase Two, album review: This is like the blind date from heaven Download this: Baltimore; Rocknroll Love Affair; Black Muse; Stare; Big City
There was a time when Prince albums seemed to be both endless and frequent: no sooner had one vast triple-album been assimilated than another oversized tranche of songs appeared on its heels, an apparently ceaseless stream of fair-to-middling material that simply served to cheapen the value of the Prince brand.
Like many a heritage act, his undoubted performance charisma enabled him to sustain his reputation through a series of tours and residencies, such as his 2006 40-show residency at the Las Vegas Club 3121, and the following year’s illogically-named Earth Tour string of 21 shows, all at London’s O2 arena. The exposure helped restore Prince’s chart profile, but more recently he’s showed signs of returning to his earlier excessive tendencies, with last year’s simultaneous release of Plectrumelectrum and Art Official Age. Now, we have the sudden surprise appearance, via Tidal, of HITnRUN Phase Two, a mere three months after …phase one elicited such mediocre reviews and poor chart placing. Has he once more landed on a snake, after such diligent ladder-climbing?
Well…no, actually. HITnRUN Phase Two may be Prince’s best album in a decade or two, and certainly the most confident and agreeable confirmation of his qualities for many a year. Recorded over a four-year period at his Minneapolis studio with a 16-piece horn section combining his own NPG Hornz with the city’s Hornheads, it’s a testament to both the enduring power of his Seventies funk influences and the sonic efficacy of analogue recording: the heft and balance of the horn arrangements throughout is remarkable, rich and sonorous in a way rarely encountered in these digital days. As Prince boasts in “Black Muse”, the album’s longest track, “Rock’n’roll and jazz, so you know we’re built to last – it’s cool”. And so it proves.
The album’s status is undoubtedly raised by the inclusion of “Baltimore”, last May’s single protesting at police violence (“Does anybody hear us pray/For Michael Brown or Freddie Gray?”). With its cooing backing vocals, buttoned-down guitar fills and sprightly string curlicues dancing round the edges of the melody, it’s surely the finest moment of Prince’s recent career, the climactic chant of “If there ain’t no justice, then there ain’t no peace” recalling the earlier protest party-anthems of Sly & The Family Stone. Sly is, of course, one of the major influences looming over HITnRUN Phase Two.
When he sings, in the closing triumphalist march “Big City”, that “Everybody’s a star/You’re the most pretty”, it’s a deliberate nod back to the collectivist uplift of “Everybody Is A Star”; and if that isn’t former Family Stone bass legend Larry Graham slapping out that intro to “Stare”, somebody’s doing a damn good impression of him.
Not that Sly is the only touchstone here. The spirit of James Brown drives many of these grooves, and there’s even a touch of “Addicted To Love” about the slinky rock-a-boogie “Screwdriver”, with its invitation to “enjoy the view – I’m your driver, you’re my screw”. But the prevalence throughout the album of glistening Wurlitzer electric piano and those intricate horns and flutes brings to mind the golden era of jazz-funk that prospered in the wake of Miles Davis.
There’s a passage, halfway through “Black Muse”, involving staccato horns and voices scatting over a stop-start groove, that could be Herbie Hancock or Weather Report, while Prince’s subsequent claim, “Like a UFO sighting/From my heart I am writing/The next close encounter…” effectively drapes around his shoulders the mantle of black space-jazz and space-funk, from Sun Ra to George Clinton. And at the most utilitarian level, a tricksy horn arrangement can rescue an otherwise routine piece like “Xtraloveable” with a little razzle-dazzle, while adding nicely descriptive musical detail to a decent song like Prince’s romance of the road “Rocknroll Love Affair”.
Overall, it’s an unexpected triumph: bright, sexy, smart and full of life, HITnRUN Phase Two is like the blind date from heaven. | |
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Thanks for the link....
For those who want to check it The Independent review, here ya go....
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Prince, HITnRUN Phase Two, album review: This is like the blind date from heaven Download this: Baltimore; Rocknroll Love Affair; Black Muse; Stare; Big City
There was a time when Prince albums seemed to be both endless and frequent: no sooner had one vast triple-album been assimilated than another oversized tranche of songs appeared on its heels, an apparently ceaseless stream of fair-to-middling material that simply served to cheapen the value of the Prince brand.
Like many a heritage act, his undoubted performance charisma enabled him to sustain his reputation through a series of tours and residencies, such as his 2006 40-show residency at the Las Vegas Club 3121, and the following year’s illogically-named Earth Tour string of 21 shows, all at London’s O2 arena. The exposure helped restore Prince’s chart profile, but more recently he’s showed signs of returning to his earlier excessive tendencies, with last year’s simultaneous release of Plectrumelectrum and Art Official Age. Now, we have the sudden surprise appearance, via Tidal, of HITnRUN Phase Two, a mere three months after …phase one elicited such mediocre reviews and poor chart placing. Has he once more landed on a snake, after such diligent ladder-climbing?
Well…no, actually. HITnRUN Phase Two may be Prince’s best album in a decade or two, and certainly the most confident and agreeable confirmation of his qualities for many a year. Recorded over a four-year period at his Minneapolis studio with a 16-piece horn section combining his own NPG Hornz with the city’s Hornheads, it’s a testament to both the enduring power of his Seventies funk influences and the sonic efficacy of analogue recording: the heft and balance of the horn arrangements throughout is remarkable, rich and sonorous in a way rarely encountered in these digital days. As Prince boasts in “Black Muse”, the album’s longest track, “Rock’n’roll and jazz, so you know we’re built to last – it’s cool”. And so it proves.
The album’s status is undoubtedly raised by the inclusion of “Baltimore”, last May’s single protesting at police violence (“Does anybody hear us pray/For Michael Brown or Freddie Gray?”). With its cooing backing vocals, buttoned-down guitar fills and sprightly string curlicues dancing round the edges of the melody, it’s surely the finest moment of Prince’s recent career, the climactic chant of “If there ain’t no justice, then there ain’t no peace” recalling the earlier protest party-anthems of Sly & The Family Stone. Sly is, of course, one of the major influences looming over HITnRUN Phase Two.
When he sings, in the closing triumphalist march “Big City”, that “Everybody’s a star/You’re the most pretty”, it’s a deliberate nod back to the collectivist uplift of “Everybody Is A Star”; and if that isn’t former Family Stone bass legend Larry Graham slapping out that intro to “Stare”, somebody’s doing a damn good impression of him.
Not that Sly is the only touchstone here. The spirit of James Brown drives many of these grooves, and there’s even a touch of “Addicted To Love” about the slinky rock-a-boogie “Screwdriver”, with its invitation to “enjoy the view – I’m your driver, you’re my screw”. But the prevalence throughout the album of glistening Wurlitzer electric piano and those intricate horns and flutes brings to mind the golden era of jazz-funk that prospered in the wake of Miles Davis.
There’s a passage, halfway through “Black Muse”, involving staccato horns and voices scatting over a stop-start groove, that could be Herbie Hancock or Weather Report, while Prince’s subsequent claim, “Like a UFO sighting/From my heart I am writing/The next close encounter…” effectively drapes around his shoulders the mantle of black space-jazz and space-funk, from Sun Ra to George Clinton. And at the most utilitarian level, a tricksy horn arrangement can rescue an otherwise routine piece like “Xtraloveable” with a little razzle-dazzle, while adding nicely descriptive musical detail to a decent song like Prince’s romance of the road “Rocknroll Love Affair”.
Overall, it’s an unexpected triumph: bright, sexy, smart and full of life, HITnRUN Phase Two is like the blind date from heaven. YES! Confident is the perfect word. | |
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This version without the rap has been released before. I think it's available from 3rdeyetunes RIP  | |
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