stpaisios said:

thekidsgirl said:

Rave technically came out in 1999, but it was late in the year. .

Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic - realesed in 1999
Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic - released in 2001



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thekidsgirl said:

^ no no no...

we are discussing if "For You" > "Rave Un2.." never existed.

Would you still be a Prince fan if his career started with Rave In2 + TRC + NEWS + Musicology etc...

And without his hit era... without: "Controversy" + "1999" + "Purple Rain" etc. etc...albums...

thedance said:

Lol...... I disagree Kapo... the OP meant would you be a fan if his career started with the music post-2000. That would be Rave In2 and on...


( i believe the rest of the replies in this thread are showing this as well )

no

thedance said:

thedance said:

kapo74 said:

thekidsgirl said:

The Chocolate InvasionReleased: March 29, 2004Label: NPGThe SlaughterhouseReleased: March 29, 2004Label: NPG

Wasn't the Chocolate Invasion and Slaughterhouse simply songs from his 80's vault? So those wouldn't count would it?

He probably wouldn't be asked to do the superbowl if he didn't have those 80's hits under his belt either.

My answer is, yes, but certainly not a super fan.

I like my prince, fresh outta the 80's. HA!

heymistermusic said:

The Chocolate InvasionReleased: March 29, 2004Label: NPGThe SlaughterhouseReleased: March 29, 2004Label: NPG

Wasn't the Chocolate Invasion and Slaughterhouse simply songs from his 80's vault? So those wouldn't count would it?

He probably wouldn't be asked to do the superbowl if he didn't have those 80's hits under his belt either.

My answer is, yes, but certainly not a super fan.

I like my prince, fresh outta the 80's. HA!

The Chocalate Invasion was 2001 but Slaughterhouse was from 1985 the Flesh sessions

There were MUCH better R&B artists that came out after the year 2000.

So.... NOPE.

Graycap23 said:

Ask that question 2 any musician breathing..........

I'm a breathing musician:

My answer is "no."

I would be.

toejam said:

I would be.

On what merit?

I do not count Rave un2 or in2 as part of the question. Rave In2 may have come out later in 2000 and even 2001 according to one source, but they are remixes of songs made in 1999 and possibly earlier.

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It is very simple logic, that songs designed and recorded in 1999, would not exist in a 2000 onwards Prince reality. Without the 1999 album (I get them confused the Raves), there would be no 2000 remix album. Same for there being no "Very best of Prince" the single CD of Warner Brothers era smashes released in 2001. So the first deposit in the album bank is a steaming turd called the Rainbow Children, a musical piece of cult dogma.

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Why are we argiuing over permutations of Rave, the album is an abortion set to music and probably his low point. The album was so bad it destroyed Clive Davis's winning streak at Arista and straight after the smash of Supernatural. In Davis's autobiography (2012), he does not even mention Rave or Prince, but virtually every other album from Janis Joplin and Laura Nyro onwards he had a hand in making. Davis got fired from his own label and had to start J records on his own because of the nuclear bomb set off by Rave. Even Prince look with the pigafetta braids and horrible blue plastic coat was pathetic. Seriously how many Prince classics have come off that abortion. Everything was plastic, the drums, the vocals and over the top harmonies, the guest slots are badly dated like everything else of 1999, the year of girl groups and machine pumped boy bands.

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If anything, I actually think the albums 3121, Lotusflow3r, 20Ten and AOA made have interested me in at least liking the guy. Million dollar show on Hitnrun would have to start with openings from Musicology and she loves me 4 me instead and there would be no 1000 X's and 0's as the song dates from at least 1993.

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So I answered thre question in the sense, music made after January 1st 2000, not before, Rave is a 20th century album made in the 2nd millenium AD.

duccichucka said:

Graycap23 said:

Ask that question 2 any musician breathing..........

I'm a breathing musician:

My answer is "no."

That statemnet speaks 4 itself.

Graycap23 said:

duccichucka said:

I'm a breathing musician:

My answer is "no."

That statemnet speaks 4 itself.

Okay, Graycap.

And I'm pretty sure that in your attempt to be offensive, that you lack the insight to see
how Lord Irony has bit you in your own arse!

duccichucka said:

Graycap23 said:

That statemnet speaks 4 itself.

Okay, Graycap.

And I'm pretty sure that in your attempt to be offensive, that you lack the insight to see
how Lord Irony has bit you in your own arse!

Actually there is no need to insult u.

If the answer is no, it is no.

Pretty simple.

Graycap23 said:

duccichucka said:

Okay, Graycap.

And I'm pretty sure that in your attempt to be offensive, that you lack the insight to see
how Lord Irony has bit you in your own arse!

Actually there is no need to insult u.

If the answer is no, it is no.

Pretty simple.

Yet my comment was "pretty simple" - I said that I'm a breathing musician and my answer is
"no." You actually make our interactions more strained than necessary, but whatever!

The look alone would have been a big no-no for me.
I mean, imagine a guy coming out from nowhere, dressed like this.
That smurf suit is a repellent.
Worse than the tomato latex from the Nude Tour program, and that says a lot.

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^ Hey Bonatoc, why do you always come off as very "negative"...?

I still have to read a positive comment from you here on the Org.....

Peace..... different opinions are ok, just saying... and wondering why....

duccichucka said:

Graycap23 said:

Actually there is no need to insult u.

If the answer is no, it is no.

Pretty simple.

Yet my comment was "pretty simple" - I said that I'm a breathing musician and my answer is
"no." You actually make our interactions more strained than necessary, but whatever!

Yet your comment says a great deal.

Dilan said:

Would you be a Prince fan still if his career began in 2000 and the only albums he had were those from then until 2015?

My initial reaction was no, because I probably never would have heard of him. However, assuming that the entire feud with WB had not taken place, Prince would have gotten massive top 40 radio play, and I think I would have discovered him, maybe around the time of 3121. Certainly his performances on that Fox show where the contestants sang for Simon Cowell, along with the Super Bowl performance would have made me buy 3121, and from there I'd have been hooked.

So, yes.