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Reply #30 posted 05/25/15 4:16pm

Astasheiks

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langebleu said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Source for the article, please.


I have inserted a source in the initial post to this thread

Susannah Melvoin (R); her twin sister and Prince's guitarist Wendy (L)

Susannah Melvoin (R); her twin sister and Prince’s guitarist Wendy (L)

Susannah Melvoin (the twin sister of Prince’s Revolution, guitarist Wendy Melvoin) in 1984.

Doesn't somebody have this wrong... Wendy is actually the one on the (R) and Susannah on the (L) ???

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Reply #31 posted 05/25/15 4:19pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

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eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #32 posted 05/25/15 4:30pm

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Man that was back when Prince was young and hormones a jumping! hee hee razz lol

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Reply #33 posted 05/25/15 4:49pm

CharismaDove

Se7en said:

I think the real story here is that Kcoolmusiq didn't call him prince.


lol

Maybe eye do, just not like eye did before pimp2
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Reply #34 posted 05/25/15 4:50pm

CharismaDove

paisleypark4 said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

BINGO!!! biggrin

nod thanks man! Read enough per Nilsen books lol. Then he sat up there and wrote "Glamorus Life" about Vanity how ironic lol!


Actually, that song was about Apollonia smile But I'm sure he's written several about Vanity (Wonderful Ass comes to mind). And wasn't Nothing Compares 2 U written about Jamie Schoop? Maybe I got the name wrong, but I'm pretty sure this one wasn't about Susannah..

[Edited 5/25/15 16:56pm]

Maybe eye do, just not like eye did before pimp2
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Reply #35 posted 05/25/15 4:52pm

CharismaDove

EddieC said:

KCOOL--

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First--where's the quote in your signature about keeping one eye open come from?

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Second--I could have happily gone my entire life without seeing that still of Wendy and Susannah--always loved the way they looked, but that instant of time is not one that should have been frozen.


Wendy looks pretty weird but Susannah looks sexy. Personally, I loved her look in the 1986 era. Prince pulled in some of the finest women ever back in his heyday

Maybe eye do, just not like eye did before pimp2
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Reply #36 posted 05/25/15 4:55pm

CharismaDove

1contessa said:

It seems as though Prince was a cheater, and changed girlfriends as much as he changed clothes, shoes, hairstyles, etc. Let's face it, the guy had many girlfriends and didn't last with any of them, so something is definitely wrong there. I love Prince, but I could have never been a girlfriend of his, because I believe in being faithful, and I don't cheat, and would not want to be cheated on.


I agree. I think it was Toure who said something like, Prince was so shy in his weird childhood and overall not really being able to talk to girls, that when he became famous, he started dating/fucking women like a kid would eat candy after being exposed to it for the firs time lol These days his love affairs seem less. Or just more private.

Maybe eye do, just not like eye did before pimp2
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Reply #37 posted 05/25/15 4:57pm

CharismaDove

babynoz said:

Nice to see Susan get some shine. I always thought she was the cutest and sweetest of all the Prince ladies and his true first love. I thought it was common knowlege that When Doves Cry was about her.

I remember her being at the show at Mansion in SOBE back in '06.

Agreed. I think the fact she was quiet and usually stayed in the background on video/albums is why she's not mentioned a lot

Maybe eye do, just not like eye did before pimp2
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Reply #38 posted 05/25/15 5:26pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

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Susan now...Still pretty. biggrin

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #39 posted 05/25/15 6:48pm

HuMpThAnG

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Well then, I thought she seem to have some Black in her. smile

she did lol

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Reply #40 posted 05/25/15 6:50pm

HuMpThAnG

BobGeorge909 said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

prince wasn't a CHEATER! He was a PIMP! biggrin

Ur a fool. Prince could pee in your daughters butthole and u would find a way to justify it and explain how the urine turned your kid into 'A MASTERPIECE!' [Edited 5/23/15 22:49pm]

spit!!!!!

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Reply #41 posted 05/25/15 7:20pm

SoulAlive

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

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Susan now...Still pretty. biggrin

That picture of her in the red shirt is taken from a facebook profile from a woman named Susan Sookdeo Moonsie....are we sure that's our Susan? hmmm

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Reply #42 posted 05/25/15 9:05pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

rolleyes

The eyes,nose & complexion is very similar....It's her

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #43 posted 05/26/15 4:48am

Dilan

does anyone else think moonsie is not even remotely attractive? vanity is so much better looking

I'm feeling a bit fammy™
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Reply #44 posted 05/26/15 7:57am

VelvetKittyKat

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

prince wasn't a CHEATER! He was a PIMP! biggrin

Last time I checked 'Pimp' wasn't exactly something to be proud of either.

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Reply #45 posted 05/26/15 8:06am

KCOOLMUZIQ

The WHOLE Morris Day character is based off of prince.Who always has created extensions of himself through other people..Which says what? That prince was the real pimp. biggrin

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #46 posted 05/26/15 8:17am

FUNKYNESS

1contessa said:

It seems as though Prince was a cheater, and changed girlfriends as much as he changed clothes, shoes, hairstyles, etc. Let's face it, the guy had many girlfriends and didn't last with any of them, so something is definitely wrong there. I love Prince, but I could have never been a girlfriend of his, because I believe in being faithful, and I don't cheat, and would not want to be cheated on.

You have aboslutely no way of knowing what you are talking about

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Reply #47 posted 05/26/15 8:33am

thedance

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Dilan said:

does anyone else think moonsie is not even remotely attractive? vanity is so much better looking

you are right, but.. about beauty.. to be honest I prefer Apollonia.. love

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Reply #48 posted 05/26/15 9:09am

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This is old news actually. Per Nielsen and the Uptown staff mentioned this many times in their publications, but maybe some younger fans appreciate the info you posted.

Prince did NOT write Nothing Compares 2 U because of Susannah Melvoin. The inspiration for this song came from someone else (someone he wasn´t in a relationship with). An in-depth story about that song and its history was published in Uptown magazine.

He DID write The Beautiful Ones for her when she was still in a relationship with some other guy, hence the "Do you want him, or do you want me" line. As far as I know, he was already dating Vanity then (and maybe still seeing Susan Moonsie). Again, this was covered by Per Nielsen and the people at Uptown magazine, too.

To call Susan Moonsie an RnB singer that we all know is a bit of a stretch, and I doubt that Timex Social Club´s line about Susan is really about Susan Moonsie.

Susan Moonsie can also be seen in those stills from the Second Coming movie that were posted here a couple of times, together with Kim Upsher (another ex-girlfriend).

It´s remarkable how Prince could not only date all those women simultaneously, but also make them like each other and become friends.

Now that´s true pimp style. Or universal love. Or both. lol

" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"
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Reply #49 posted 05/26/15 9:39am

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Did we collectively really wonder who it was about? Honestly, to me the love interest is immaterial, but the focus on his mother and father dynamic are what were intriguing to me.

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To put it another way: Prince has one father and one mother. When he sings about them, it's about them. OTOH, when he sings about lovers, for the most part it's a mish-mash "generic" lover he's singing about.

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Reply #50 posted 05/26/15 10:07am

KCOOLMUZIQ

KoolEaze said:

This is old news actually. Per Nielsen and the Uptown staff mentioned this many times in their publications, but maybe some younger fans appreciate the info you posted.

Prince did NOT write Nothing Compares 2 U because of Susannah Melvoin. The inspiration for this song came from someone else (someone he wasn´t in a relationship with). An in-depth story about that song and its history was published in Uptown magazine.

He DID write The Beautiful Ones for her when she was still in a relationship with some other guy, hence the "Do you want him, or do you want me" line. As far as I know, he was already dating Vanity then (and maybe still seeing Susan Moonsie). Again, this was covered by Per Nielsen and the people at Uptown magazine, too.

To call Susan Moonsie an RnB singer that we all know is a bit of a stretch, and I doubt that Timex Social Club´s line about Susan is really about Susan Moonsie.

Susan Moonsie can also be seen in those stills from the Second Coming movie that were posted here a couple of times, together with Kim Upsher (another ex-girlfriend).

It´s remarkable how Prince could not only date all those women simultaneously, but also make them like each other and become friends.

Now that´s true pimp style. Or universal love. Or both. lol

rolleyes

This FACT was confirmed by Timex Socal Club founding member and lyricist Marcus A. Thompson.

I saw him say that he was referring to Susan from V6. Also a lot of thread topics are rehashed on this site. So U not saying anything nobody already knows. rolleyes

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #51 posted 05/26/15 10:37am

RobotDevil

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

rolleyes

The eyes,nose & complexion is very similar....It's her

That woman is not THE Susan Moonsie of V6.

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Reply #52 posted 05/26/15 11:04am

VelvetKittyKat

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

The WHOLE Morris Day character is based off of prince.Who always has created extensions of himself through other people..Which says what? That prince was the real pimp. biggrin

Websters gives the true meaning of the word 'pimp.' It's nothing glamourous or praise-worthy.

pimp
pimp/
noun
  1. 1.
    a man who controls prostitutes and arranges clients for them, taking part of their earnings in return.
    synonyms: procurer, procuress; More

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Reply #53 posted 05/26/15 11:05am

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

KoolEaze said:

This is old news actually. Per Nielsen and the Uptown staff mentioned this many times in their publications, but maybe some younger fans appreciate the info you posted.

Prince did NOT write Nothing Compares 2 U because of Susannah Melvoin. The inspiration for this song came from someone else (someone he wasn´t in a relationship with). An in-depth story about that song and its history was published in Uptown magazine.

He DID write The Beautiful Ones for her when she was still in a relationship with some other guy, hence the "Do you want him, or do you want me" line. As far as I know, he was already dating Vanity then (and maybe still seeing Susan Moonsie). Again, this was covered by Per Nielsen and the people at Uptown magazine, too.

To call Susan Moonsie an RnB singer that we all know is a bit of a stretch, and I doubt that Timex Social Club´s line about Susan is really about Susan Moonsie.

Susan Moonsie can also be seen in those stills from the Second Coming movie that were posted here a couple of times, together with Kim Upsher (another ex-girlfriend).

It´s remarkable how Prince could not only date all those women simultaneously, but also make them like each other and become friends.

Now that´s true pimp style. Or universal love. Or both. lol

rolleyes

This FACT was confirmed by Timex Socal Club founding member and lyricist Marcus A. Thompson.

I saw him say that he was referring to Susan from V6. Also a lot of thread topics are rehashed on this site. So U not saying anything nobody already knows. rolleyes

No disrespect to you, but I don't believe that the Susan in that song is the Susan from Vanity 6.

Next, you'll say that "Michael" in the song is Michael Jackson.

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Reply #54 posted 05/26/15 11:12am

KCOOLMUZIQ

VelvetKittyKat said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

The WHOLE Morris Day character is based off of prince.Who always has created extensions of himself through other people..Which says what? That prince was the real pimp. biggrin

Websters gives the true meaning of the word 'pimp.' It's nothing glamourous or praise-worthy.

pimp
pimp/
noun
  1. 1.
    a man who controls prostitutes and arranges clients for them, taking part of their earnings in return.
    synonyms: procurer, procuress; More

That is the definition of a STREET pimp! Eye only call prince a pimp, because he was good @ keeping the most beautiful women around him 4 his own pleasure. It takes a special skill to pull that off. Plus a lot of the women, actually 90% of them he christened into stars in their own right. So it's really a compliment I'm giving him, from a male perspective. Which I don't really expect U to understand. Men know where I'm coming from on this.

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #55 posted 05/26/15 1:08pm

Dilan

sorry the dance appollonia is who i met. and its so sad seeing the ageing the process and whats it done to her

I'm feeling a bit fammy™
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Reply #56 posted 05/26/15 1:24pm

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SoulAlive said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

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Susan now...Still pretty. biggrin

That picture of her in the red shirt is taken from a facebook profile from a woman named Susan Sookdeo Moonsie....are we sure that's our Susan? hmmm

Looks nothing like her shake

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Reply #57 posted 05/26/15 1:24pm

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Dilan said:

sorry the dance appollonia is who i met. and its so sad seeing the ageing the process and whats it done to her

back then Apollonia was a real beauty, thats what I was talking about, biggrin


She may be older now and not that beautifil anymore, that happens to most of us while ageing.. right? Every age in life has its own beauty though.... smile

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Reply #58 posted 05/26/15 2:11pm

SPYZFAN1

Dilan...Susan was cute, but back then it was ALL about Vanity.

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Reply #59 posted 05/26/15 2:52pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

Dilan said:

sorry the dance appollonia is who i met. and its so sad seeing the ageing the process and whats it done to her

Eye think Apples still look hot!

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eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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