stesa said:

RODSERLING said:

What a bad idea to release not only one, but 2 albums around the same time when Purple Rain 2014 hits the stores.

The Purple Rain Re-release would have been one of the best sales in years in the US market. Remember that before M. Jackson died, the catalog sales of both PR and THRILLER were equivalent ( about 2.6 millions).

Now, Prince succeeded in killing his last chance to shine again.

These three projects will be big failures.

PLECTRUM ELECTRUM should have been released in february 2014, when it was announced with the UK tour.

PURPLE RAIN 2014 should have been released during june because, hell, it was the 30 th year of PR.

ART OFF AGE could have been released in the end of 2014.

Where are some songs like DA BOURGEOISIE, SCREWDRIVER ? And what about his last "hits" (it is of course, ironic) such as Rock n roll love affair and fallinlove2night ? There is enough time space on a disc to do that.

People won't understand a shit about it. It is surely the greatest mess of all the Prince's promotion, and it is orchestrated by a major record, Warner !

I foreshadow that nobody will dig that PE is a prince album, so it won't sell. ART OFF AGE has the most horrible cover of all the Prince album (tied with newpowersoul), and the most horrible title. Nobody except prince fans would buy a disc with suc an ugly face on it. I saw him live this year, and his face don't even look like this. Please, tell me this is all a joke.

I'm pretty sure that these 2 albums will fit in one CD of 80 minutes, if you keep only one version of Funknroll (again, what a joke).

Actually I don't agree, and I think that the current strategy is potentially far more interesting. If Warner can succeed in really promoting these two projects and 'managing' Prince in tagging along and taking at heart their choices, it could become a significant revitalisation of Prince's fame for a larger audience.

And I would not think it unlikely that around Christmas, Warner adds to this the Purple Rain remaster as the first in a series of remasters.

Maybe I'm just hoping. Let's just say that I really trust Warner to be able to execute what we, as the fans and broader audience, wants happens.

I'm sorry, but what strategy are you talking about ? Releasing 2 albums the same day, is no strategy. Releasing two months after PR, the big project, is no strategy too.

If PR is not a big seller, there won't be anymore remastered edition, or if there is, with no bonus disc.

Remember 2001 with MJ ? Sony released no less than six albums in one months, including a new one, 4 reeditions and a greatest hits.

Against all odds, the four reeditions flopped (and we're talking about 4 masterpieces which are among the best sellers of all time), the new album flopped, the greatest hits flopped.

You think people will be interested in PR because there is huge promotion on PE and OAA ? lol first, there would be no promotion of the new albums. Was it prince who announced PE yesterday ? nO : THE 3RD eg. That means a lot about the future of the promotion, that would run anyway for no more than 2 months.

How can you cask to the general audience to understand that Prince releases 2 albums, including one that is attibuted to another band of girl that nobody heard of ?? and one where one can't even see his face on the cover.

And then, during the holiday season, among huge releases, that would not be screwed up by the artists, how can people understand that story of the 30th anniversary of purple rain ? One month after the release, we are in 2015, there is no birthday anymore.

I'm really, really disappointed by this timing, the worst I have ever seen in the music industry.

If only the albums were called PE part 1 and PE part 2, there would be at least some sort of continuation. But as it is, it's just a mess, and WB will regret it.

hw3004 said:

RODSERLING said:

Where are some songs like DA BOURGEOISIE, SCREWDRIVER ? And what about his last "hits" (it is of course, ironic) such as Rock n roll love affair and fallinlove2night ? There is enough time space on a disc to do that.

....... but, presumably, you've got these already (or can still get them) so why do you want them on the album(s)?

NO, in fact I wasn't aware these tracks were released on a CD single. Can you please give me a link where I could buy it ?

Can someone explain me why these tracks can't be included, whereas each album doesn't exceed half the time of a 80 minute CD ?

RODSERLING said:

hw3004 said:

....... but, presumably, you've got these already (or can still get them) so why do you want them on the album(s)?

NO, in fact I wasn't aware these tracks were released on a CD single. Can you please give me a link where I could buy it ?

Can someone explain me why these tracks can't be included, whereas each album doesn't exceed half the time of a 80 minute CD ?

Ever heard about the "concept" of an album? An album is a kind of work of art, you just don't include everything that you've created on it, if it doesn't fit well with the rest.

And enough with complaining about 2 albums at the same time. I don't understand how people can complain about getting 2 new albums from their favourite artist. Who cares if they come at the same time??

[Edited 8/26/14 3:13am]

Marco81 said:

RODSERLING said:

NO, in fact I wasn't aware these tracks were released on a CD single. Can you please give me a link where I could buy it ?

Can someone explain me why these tracks can't be included, whereas each album doesn't exceed half the time of a 80 minute CD ?

Ever heard about the "concept" of an album? An album is a kind of work of art, you just don't include everything that you've created on it, if it doesn't fit well with the rest.

And enough with complaining about 2 albums at the same time. I don't understand how people can complain about getting 2 new albums from their favourite artist. Who cares if they come at the same time??

[Edited 8/26/14 3:13am]

I have heard about the concept of an album. TRC is, for instance, the best example. BUt i don't think it's the case here. Let's take LOTUS FLOWER, it was announced as a "rock" album, but what about "money", "beverly park", etc ?

Explain me why SCREWDRIVER doesn't fit in PE.

And if "money" fits in LOTUS FLOWER, why DA BOURGEOISIE doesn't fit in PE, or in OAA ? That's obscure to me.

DIAMOND AND PEARLS was a rnb/hip hop album, and CREAM a pop/rock song was its biggest single. So your remark is not relevant, certainly not when it's concerning prince !

As a fan, i'm not rejoicing about an album produced by an unknown Joshua Welton. In fact, like I said, these 2 album could fit in only 1 disc, and you could easily remove one song in one or the other album. Proof : funknroll.

I'm not rejoicing, because the general audience won't understand a thing, the PR 2014 will flop, and there will be no more interesting reeditions. And that's killing me, because i'm waiting for these reeditions for 10 years, and now it's screwed up.

I'm not rejoicing, because PRINCE for once in his life, should select the best songs of each project and release them in ONE good album. Because during the last 20 years, nobody could quote a good Prince album, except maybe Musicology. And even, nobody cares anymore about Musicology.

Prince need to do something relevant, that will be considered as good. Or die, trying.

[Edited 8/26/14 3:29am]

[Edited 8/26/14 3:32am]

RODSERLING said:

Marco81 said:

Ever heard about the "concept" of an album? An album is a kind of work of art, you just don't include everything that you've created on it, if it doesn't fit well with the rest.

And enough with complaining about 2 albums at the same time. I don't understand how people can complain about getting 2 new albums from their favourite artist. Who cares if they come at the same time??

[Edited 8/26/14 3:13am]

I have heard about the concept of an album. TRC is, for instance, the best example. BUt i don't think it's the case here. Let's take LOTUS FLOWER, it was announced as a "rock" album, but what about "money", "beverly park", etc ?

Explain me why SCREWDRIVER doesn't fit in PE.

And if "money" fits in LOTUS FLOWER, why DA BOURGEOISIE doesn't fit in PE, or in OAA ? That's obscure to me.

DIAMOND AND PEARLS was a rnb/hip hop album, and CREAM a pop/rock song was its biggest single. So your remark is not relevant, certainly not when it's concerning prince !

As a fan, i'm not rejoicing about an album produced by an unknown Joshua Welton. In fact, like I said, these 2 album could fit in only 1 disc, and you could easily remove one song in one or the other album. Proof : funknroll.

I'm not rejoicing, because the general audience won't understand a thing, the PR 2014 will flop, and there will be no more interesting reeditions. And that's killing me, because i'm waiting for these reeditions for 10 years, and now it's screwed up.

I'm not rejoicing, because PRINCE for once in his life, should select the best songs of each project and release them in ONE good album. Because during the last 20 years, nobody could quote a good Prince album, except maybe Musicology. And even, nobody cares anymore about Musicology.

Prince need to do something relevant, that will be considered as good. Or die, trying.

[Edited 8/26/14 3:29am]

[Edited 8/26/14 3:32am]

You're confusing the "concept" of an album with the "genre". Lotusflower was never billed as a rock album, but as an album containing quite a few rock tracks.

And for "concept" of an album, I don't mean what people might think as a "themed-album" like lovesexy, rainbow children...

[Edited 8/26/14 3:47am]

armybrat said:

Marco81 said:

RODSERLING said:

I have heard about the concept of an album. TRC is, for instance, the best example. BUt i don't think it's the case here. Let's take LOTUS FLOWER, it was announced as a "rock" album, but what about "money", "beverly park", etc ?

Explain me why SCREWDRIVER doesn't fit in PE.

And if "money" fits in LOTUS FLOWER, why DA BOURGEOISIE doesn't fit in PE, or in OAA ? That's obscure to me.

DIAMOND AND PEARLS was a rnb/hip hop album, and CREAM a pop/rock song was its biggest single. So your remark is not relevant, certainly not when it's concerning prince !

As a fan, i'm not rejoicing about an album produced by an unknown Joshua Welton. In fact, like I said, these 2 album could fit in only 1 disc, and you could easily remove one song in one or the other album. Proof : funknroll.

I'm not rejoicing, because the general audience won't understand a thing, the PR 2014 will flop, and there will be no more interesting reeditions. And that's killing me, because i'm waiting for these reeditions for 10 years, and now it's screwed up.

I'm not rejoicing, because PRINCE for once in his life, should select the best songs of each project and release them in ONE good album. Because during the last 20 years, nobody could quote a good Prince album, except maybe Musicology. And even, nobody cares anymore about Musicology.

Prince need to do something relevant, that will be considered as good. Or die, trying.

[Edited 8/26/14 3:29am]

[Edited 8/26/14 3:32am]

You're confusing the "concept" of an album with the "genre". Lotusflower was never billed as a rock album, but as an album containing quite a few rock tracks.

And for "concept" of an album, I don't mean what people might think as a "themed-album" like lovesexy, rainbow children...

[Edited 8/26/14 3:47am]

So i don't understand why DA BOURGOISIE and SCREWDRIVER couldn' t be included in PE or in OAA ; and I don't dig why these 2 albums are not on the same disc. That' s a joke, and a rather bad one. Because Prince always mixed differents styles of music, you could on the same album find rap, rock, pop, funk, raggae, etc.

You quote LOVESEXY as a themed-album, THE BLACK ALBUM was a themed-album too, and both share WHEN 2 R IN LOVE.

Both OAA and PE share Funknroll.

The tracklist, the artwork, the release date are a fucking nonsense, anyway, i don't expect someone to clearly explain me why all this mess.

FragileUndertow said:

RODSERLING said:

stesa said:

Actually I don't agree, and I think that the current strategy is potentially far more interesting. If Warner can succeed in really promoting these two projects and 'managing' Prince in tagging along and taking at heart their choices, it could become a significant revitalisation of Prince's fame for a larger audience.

And I would not think it unlikely that around Christmas, Warner adds to this the Purple Rain remaster as the first in a series of remasters.

Maybe I'm just hoping. Let's just say that I really trust Warner to be able to execute what we, as the fans and broader audience, wants happens.

I'm sorry, but what strategy are you talking about ? Releasing 2 albums the same day, is no strategy. Releasing two months after PR, the big project, is no strategy too.

If PR is not a big seller, there won't be anymore remastered edition, or if there is, with no bonus disc.

Remember 2001 with MJ ? Sony released no less than six albums in one months, including a new one, 4 reeditions and a greatest hits.

Against all odds, the four reeditions flopped (and we're talking about 4 masterpieces which are among the best sellers of all time), the new album flopped, the greatest hits flopped.

You think people will be interested in PR because there is huge promotion on PE and OAA ? lol first, there would be no promotion of the new albums. Was it prince who announced PE yesterday ? nO : THE 3RD eg. That means a lot about the future of the promotion, that would run anyway for no more than 2 months.

How can you cask to the general audience to understand that Prince releases 2 albums, including one that is attibuted to another band of girl that nobody heard of ?? and one where one can't even see his face on the cover.

And then, during the holiday season, among huge releases, that would not be screwed up by the artists, how can people understand that story of the 30th anniversary of purple rain ? One month after the release, we are in 2015, there is no birthday anymore.

I'm really, really disappointed by this timing, the worst I have ever seen in the music industry.

If only the albums were called PE part 1 and PE part 2, there would be at least some sort of continuation. But as it is, it's just a mess, and WB will regret it.

Excuse me: I do think that WB know what they are doing, a billion times more than Prince himself, when he was managing himself. No strategy? There's no use in denying that there IS.

a)

There is a reason to release two very related yet distinct projects at the same time, I for one think it is to put Prince in the spotlight again (forgotten by the general public), and to emphasize the idea that Prince still is the prolific, ambitious artist that people knew from the 80s.

b)

There is a reason why there is no PE1 and PE2. I for one think that it enables WB to promote both albums, without the one hurting the other one. They could be aimed toward two different kinds of crowd, if one doesn't sell well, they don't have to keep on promoting the bad one with the good one, etc. Still, I think with one project referring to the other and vice versa with no further strings attached, most people will at least be mildly interested in the one project when having bought the other and the other way round. I think it's rather (potentially) clever.

c)

There is a reason why (mind I always start my paragraph in the same way:) Purple Rain could still be released during Xmas, with all bells and whistles. In your post you keep on pounding on the idea that it's too late, and soon it'll be 2015. But the entertainment industry doesn't always think in calendar years. Xmas is an important period in the entertainment world, and I firmly believe that WB are up to something during these months, and it will probably work. In the worst case - and I do believe that this is the case - the two new, unknown projects are here to pave the way for PR Remaster. I'm fairly certain that this is the one thing that WB want to get everything out of.

As to some of the other things in your post, I think you don't like some of the choices that they make (the cover of the PLUM album (is that the abbreviation we had decided on ORG? , PLUM had to be released in February, you want 'continuation', ...), but let's face it: they are doing it another way: and it seems to be working up to this point; the sites are up and running, the release of Clouds is in the press over here in Europe, people have started pre-ordering. If WB plays this out well, they could very well do something else that you don't like: release PR 30th Anniversary in December, when Prince is at least a little bit in the spotlight again, thanks to 'those two other new albums that he released in... September was it?'

One more thing, I do think it is not ALL part of a strategy, but also the result of pragmatism after long and hard negotiations between parties amongst which not the easiest of parties, i.e. Prince. Maybe WB would have wanted PLUM released differently, or not at all, but considering all the arguments pro and contra, I think WB made some potentially good choices...

So yes, it is strategy, even though it may be not the one you would have hoped for.

For those who pre-ordered, check your Inbox's, I'm in the UK and just received my email with links to the mp3 downloads for Clouds, The Breakdown and PBL. They are 320Kbps as advertised.

gripper28 said:

For those who pre-ordered, check your Inbox's, I'm in the UK and just received my email with links to the mp3 downloads for Clouds, The Breakdown and PBL. They are 320Kbps as advertised.

I just checked. No email (checked spam folder), but they are now available in the 'My Downloadable Products' section of the website.

No news about my discount, though...

stesa said:

RODSERLING said:

I'm sorry, but what strategy are you talking about ? Releasing 2 albums the same day, is no strategy. Releasing two months after PR, the big project, is no strategy too.

If PR is not a big seller, there won't be anymore remastered edition, or if there is, with no bonus disc.

Remember 2001 with MJ ? Sony released no less than six albums in one months, including a new one, 4 reeditions and a greatest hits.

Against all odds, the four reeditions flopped (and we're talking about 4 masterpieces which are among the best sellers of all time), the new album flopped, the greatest hits flopped.

You think people will be interested in PR because there is huge promotion on PE and OAA ? lol first, there would be no promotion of the new albums. Was it prince who announced PE yesterday ? nO : THE 3RD eg. That means a lot about the future of the promotion, that would run anyway for no more than 2 months.

How can you cask to the general audience to understand that Prince releases 2 albums, including one that is attibuted to another band of girl that nobody heard of ?? and one where one can't even see his face on the cover.

And then, during the holiday season, among huge releases, that would not be screwed up by the artists, how can people understand that story of the 30th anniversary of purple rain ? One month after the release, we are in 2015, there is no birthday anymore.

I'm really, really disappointed by this timing, the worst I have ever seen in the music industry.

If only the albums were called PE part 1 and PE part 2, there would be at least some sort of continuation. But as it is, it's just a mess, and WB will regret it.

Excuse me: I do think that WB know what they are doing, a billion times more than Prince himself, when he was managing himself. No strategy? There's no use in denying that there IS.

a)

There is a reason to release two very related yet distinct projects at the same time, I for one think it is to put Prince in the spotlight again (forgotten by the general public), and to emphasize the idea that Prince still is the prolific, ambitious artist that people knew from the 80s.

b)

There is a reason why there is no PE1 and PE2. I for one think that it enables WB to promote both albums, without the one hurting the other one. They could be aimed toward two different kinds of crowd, if one doesn't sell well, they don't have to keep on promoting the bad one with the good one, etc. Still, I think with one project referring to the other and vice versa with no further strings attached, most people will at least be mildly interested in the one project when having bought the other and the other way round. I think it's rather (potentially) clever.

c)

There is a reason why (mind I always start my paragraph in the same way:) Purple Rain could still be released during Xmas, with all bells and whistles. In your post you keep on pounding on the idea that it's too late, and soon it'll be 2015. But the entertainment industry doesn't always think in calendar years. Xmas is an important period in the entertainment world, and I firmly believe that WB are up to something during these months, and it will probably work. In the worst case - and I do believe that this is the case - the two new, unknown projects are here to pave the way for PR Remaster. I'm fairly certain that this is the one thing that WB want to get everything out of.

As to some of the other things in your post, I think you don't like some of the choices that they make (the cover of the PLUM album (is that the abbreviation we had decided on ORG? , PLUM had to be released in February, you want 'continuation', ...), but let's face it: they are doing it another way: and it seems to be working up to this point; the sites are up and running, the release of Clouds is in the press over here in Europe, people have started pre-ordering. If WB plays this out well, they could very well do something else that you don't like: release PR 30th Anniversary in December, when Prince is at least a little bit in the spotlight again, thanks to 'those two other new albums that he released in... September was it?'

One more thing, I do think it is not ALL part of a strategy, but also the result of pragmatism after long and hard negotiations between parties amongst which not the easiest of parties, i.e. Prince. Maybe WB would have wanted PLUM released differently, or not at all, but considering all the arguments pro and contra, I think WB made some potentially good choices...

So yes, it is strategy, even though it may be not the one you would have hoped for.

I STILL say no strategy...No offense.

a) You think people will be interested in 2 albums of Prince, whereas when he's releasing only one nobody cares, except with HUGE promotion (EMANCIPATION, GOLD, MUSICOLOGY, 3121) ?

It's impossible, even for an hyped artist such as beyonce or Timberlake to promote 2 albums on the same time. Nobody could. People will never know what tracks are on which album. That won't work.

There won't be any airplay. There surely won't be any video clip (remember the EPIC FIL2N). There would be no PLUM tour, no OAA tour.

Frankly, good luck to WB with promoting these 2 albums, with an artist such as Prince, who didn't even care to announce his own album, that nobody except WB wanted to release during the last 2 years. That's one of a kind.

Good luck to WB to interest people in the 3EG rock girl band, and in the same time explaining people that's a prince album.

And good luck in all this mess to WB with selling PR among the biggest release of the year.

c) Anniversary in show business is a way to create a factice event, a hype behind a project. It's in fact used and abused in showbusinness.That hype was at its peak on june, that's a fact (hence several reviews on media) and will be at its lowest on december.

Maybe I fool myself, maybe for the 1st time ever Prince will make coherent promotion, and maybe that promotion will run for more than 6 weeks before throwing away the 3EG. But I don't buy it.

SuperSoulFighter said:

Very few people are so obsessed with a musician that they remember the exact dates on which an album was released. So the Purple Rain remaster not coming out in June is a non-issue. I just watched the GMA clip on youtube and it seems like the promotional campaign is making a good start. Things could work both ways: the new albums promoting the remaster and vice versa. Of course things could fall flat in these days of unsure markets, but let's start by not being pessimistic. And as for the Jackson reissues, I remember those Invincible posters in NY just after Sept 11.... That was a bit awkward...

June was the best possible release date, because it was the exact birthday and moreover, you can't compete on the charts with a Prince album during summer. It was the only chance to have PR #1, and so the possibility to create even more hype, and so to justify a comeback with all its WB catalogue.

You act as if it was easy to appear in the top 20 during winter holidays. PR in december, It's a waste of opportunity. I'm even expecting that WB postpon PR in 2015 ! That would be silly, but their calendar is already silly.

Warner Bros press release

Surprised to see 'What It Feels Like' on his album - weak track IMO, if it is the same song he done with Andy Allo.

I like Clouds tho, nice futuristic feel to it and I dont think its cheesy like some of his more recent RNB attempts like Incence & Candles etc.

We'll probably end up with a decent album between the 2. As others have said I'm also looking forward to getting Wow as that sounded great on the PA before the Manchester Hit & Run shows.

And I just got email(s) with download links...!!!

dodger said:

Surprised to see 'What It Feels Like' on his album - weak track IMO, if it is the same song he done with Andy Allo.

I like Clouds tho, nice futuristic feel to it and I dont think its cheesy like some of his more recent RNB attempts like Incence & Candles etc.

We'll probably end up with a decent album between the 2. As others have said I'm also looking forward to getting Wow as that sounded great on the PA before the Manchester Hit & Run shows.

What It Feels Like...over The Unexpected? Bad move. Maybe we got some b-sides or something else.

databank said:

The more I think of it the more I suspect this is how things happened (just a guess):

- and WB agreed on the remasters/masters right and offered a new, radio-friendly album in the vein of Musicology/3121 and they agreed to release both this and PR at the same time, which was IMHO a good marketing strategy for the target audiences were slightly different and the hype surrounding each project would benefit the other.

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It would have been a bad idea. But it's the concession WB agreed to.

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- Not being exclusively tied to WB

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BS. No way WB would allow that. No way WB would sign such a deal. That new album was their concession, allowing him to release outside of WB wasn't gonna happen.

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I'm 100% convinced they did this so he'd stop whining for a while.

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I'm 100% convinced 3EG was shopped around and found no buyers (including Kobalt). Then the WB deal happened, which I'm guessing was planned for much earlier but Prince was stalling and hoping to get the 3EG record out first. Thus PR got postponed from earlier this year because they couldn't start working on it earlier. Then Prince started his weekly bitchfest.

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I wouldn't be surprised if the inclusion of Plectrum in the WB deal involved a renegociation that Prince will bitch about at a later date. The 3EG record is the equivalent of WB paying P a couple of millions to get the fuck out of the way while they'd finally compile a Greatest Hits set (= the Hits/The B-Sides). Or perhaps more like the deal they made to get TBA released.

stillwaiting said:

dodger said:

Surprised to see 'What It Feels Like' on his album - weak track IMO, if it is the same song he done with Andy Allo.

I like Clouds tho, nice futuristic feel to it and I dont think its cheesy like some of his more recent RNB attempts like Incence & Candles etc.

We'll probably end up with a decent album between the 2. As others have said I'm also looking forward to getting Wow as that sounded great on the PA before the Manchester Hit & Run shows.

What It Feels Like...over The Unexpected? Bad move. Maybe we got some b-sides or something else.

Wow/The Unexpected is the first track on PE.

RODSERLING said:

hw3004 said:

....... but, presumably, you've got these already (or can still get them) so why do you want them on the album(s)?

NO, in fact I wasn't aware these tracks were released on a CD single. Can you please give me a link where I could buy it ?

...they've also not been released on 78RPM or 8-track, but, then again, it is 2014.

RODSERLING said:

hw3004 said:

RODSERLING said:

NO, in fact I wasn't aware these tracks were released on a CD single. Can you please give me a link where I could buy it ?

...they've also not been released on 78RPM or 8-track, but, then again, it is 2014.

So, Prince is the only major artist who doesn't care about physical release. What is laughable, is that prince is an artist that sell better on physical than in digital. Again, commercial nonsense.

SuperSoulFighter said:

Javi said:

I like the blue background, the vinyls floating around and the general old fashion vibe. It's vaguely psychedelic. But I'm an old ass, so what do I know? I'm gonna buy the vinyl anyway, even if I have to pay the Australian shipping...

No te preocupes. It will be released on our continent. There's nothing I'd like more than a new Prince LP, but on the other hand, there haven't been a lot of Prince albums lately (=since 1990) that I could listen to without pushing the "next" button s few times. So rather than "excited", I'm "interested". Hope this is good enough for Militant to not moderate my ass outta here.

I may be under the influence of all the publicity and the hype, or of the four years of abstinence, but I'm excited. I'm not saying this to remain in the .org; I really mean it. En serio.

[Edited 8/26/14 6:04am]

udo said:

And I just got email(s) with download links...!!!

FIFTEEN emails even, with the same links in them.

At least they delivered.

But right now I guess this is a failure!

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I let customerserviceteam @ warnerartists.net know.

For lack of other options as they do not present email/phone contact information on their webpages.

Typical corporate hiding behaviour with lack of nderstanding of real world necessities.

That is my investment advice.

[Edited 8/27/14 9:55am]

Marco81 said:

RODSERLING said:

So i don't understand why DA BOURGOISIE and SCREWDRIVER couldn' t be included in PE or in OAA ; and I don't dig why these 2 albums are not on the same disc. That' s a joke, and a rather bad one. Because Prince always mixed differents styles of music, you could on the same album find rap, rock, pop, funk, raggae, etc.

You quote LOVESEXY as a themed-album, THE BLACK ALBUM was a themed-album too, and both share WHEN 2 R IN LOVE.

Both OAA and PE share Funknroll.

The tracklist, the artwork, the release date are a fucking nonsense, anyway, i don't expect someone to clearly explain me why all this mess.

You're not making any sense with what you're saying. So why werent lovesexy and black album on the same disc? I think you should re-organize your thoughts. Why isn't Screwdriver on Plectrum? Why wasnt Joy in Repetition on Sign O' The Times? P.s. this is non-sense to you. Because this time we have a release date, pre-orders, tracklists, singles etc. So it makes perfect sense as it is. P.s.2. You're basing your bitching on quite a fw assumptions on how things will go. [Edited 8/26/14 5:57am]

Calm down, ok ?. Don't begin to be rude.

What I say makes sense. I think you just don't know the running time of a vinyl and a CD.

LOVESEXY and BLACK ALBUM are not on the same disc, because at that time around 1987/1988, a vinyl couldn't exceed 47 minutes. They are not on the same disc because they were not released on THE SAME FUCKING DAY.

Even in 2014, you can't put the 90 minutes of LOVESEXY and BLACK on one COMPUTER DISC. So, it does make sense.

JOY IN REPETITION is not on SOTT, because it's already a double disc, and a 3 disc was unsellable. So, it does make sense.

I'm just basing my bitching, as you said, on logical things. Releasing 2 albums the same day, with a running time that could fit on just one disc, that is not bitching, but just telling how things are.

RODSERLING said:

Even in 2014, you can't put the 90 minutes of LOVESEXY and BLACK on one COMPUTER DISC.

Obviously you are not buying bootlegs.

One company did put out 90 minute CD's. (still does?)

And that is just the smallest computer disc which might be readable today.

udo said:

RODSERLING said:

Even in 2014, you can't put the 90 minutes of LOVESEXY and BLACK on one COMPUTER DISC.

Obviously you are not buying bootlegs.

One company did put out 90 minute CD's. (still does?)

And that is just the smallest computer disc which might be readable today.

90 min exist for recordable disc, but they are not readable. No major ever released an album exceeding the 80 minutes. If they could afford it, they would have done it, it would be very useful for greatest hits for instance.

BartVanHemelen said:

databank said:

The more I think of it the more I suspect this is how things happened (just a guess):

- and WB agreed on the remasters/masters right and offered a new, radio-friendly album in the vein of Musicology/3121 and they agreed to release both this and PR at the same time, which was IMHO a good marketing strategy for the target audiences were slightly different and the hype surrounding each project would benefit the other.

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It would have been a bad idea. But it's the concession WB agreed to.

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- Not being exclusively tied to WB

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BS. No way WB would allow that. No way WB would sign such a deal. That new album was their concession, allowing him to release outside of WB wasn't gonna happen.

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I'm 100% convinced they did this so he'd stop whining for a while.

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I'm 100% convinced 3EG was shopped around and found no buyers (including Kobalt). Then the WB deal happened, which I'm guessing was planned for much earlier but Prince was stalling and hoping to get the 3EG record out first. Thus PR got postponed from earlier this year because they couldn't start working on it earlier. Then Prince started his weekly bitchfest.

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I wouldn't be surprised if the inclusion of Plectrum in the WB deal involved a renegociation that Prince will bitch about at a later date. The 3EG record is the equivalent of WB paying P a couple of millions to get the fuck out of the way while they'd finally compile a Greatest Hits set (= the Hits/The B-Sides). Or perhaps more like the deal they made to get TBA released.

Well I know we disagree on that (the exclusive contract, which I think would never jail himself into again for the life of him and PlecEl not finding a label - I can believe couldn't find a label who could afford to pay the advance he was asking for but with a reasonable advance there are dozens if not hundreds of indie label who's kill for an artist of 's magnitude). I guess only history will tell what really happened, as we can be certain that people will eventually speak about it, in some years.

I think that cover's cool. Really freaky. Somehow this news got a mention on CNN this morning. I guess being on a label has its advantages.