No. In fact, when the original CDs hit the bargain bins after the remasters come out, I will by a bunch of them and put them in storage, to slowly appreciate in value as people start arguing that the original CDs sound better than the remasters.

If I had saved a sealed longbox copy of every CD I bought when I was a teenager, I could retire on the profits I would make from selling them on eBay now. People pay thousands of dollars for beer cans that people tossed out their car windows in the 1930s.

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electricberet said:

No. In fact, when the original CDs hit the bargain bins after the remasters come out, I will by a bunch of them and put them in storage, to slowly appreciate in value as people start arguing that the original CDs sound better than the remasters.

There's a better than 50% chance of this happening.

Anyway, it makes perfect sense releasing the CD during the Christmas shopping season as they stand a far better chance of selling them. Impulse buys for that special Prince fan in people's life who is in his/her 40's or 50's who still owns a CD player.

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V10LETBLUES said:

EyeHatechu said:

V10LETBLUES said:

Anyway, it makes perfect sense releasing the CD during the Christmas shopping season as they stand a far better chance of selling them. Impulse buys for that special Prince fan in people's life who is in his/her 40's or 50's who still owns a CD player.

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True...or someone can buy it for me...a young adult who still has my CD player, cassette tape player, and vinyl turntable. Bottom line is we all have CDs lying around somewhere and we continue to buy them unless you are a 14 year old technonlogy freak who doesnt understand that vinyl or CD sounds more generic and organic than an mp3 file. I would recommend buying the tangible CD because computers and phones can crash at anytime. Then you can get it on itunes or something if you are on the run and away from your CD player.

Let's be serious, CD's, as well as cassettes and records can be damaged just as well. Yes I have had more problems with CD's than records. But cassettes were the worst as players tended to eat them.

Anyhow, until the Apocalypse, I trust the cloud keeping them safe, than me finding them when I need them. Amazon, Google, Apple and Microsoft have a higher priority in their safe keeping than me or you. Billions of dollars depend on it.

Lastly, vinyl is the only physical music format which is seeing any type of growth. The one which is also the most desirable from a collector's and audiophile's point of view than the zero's and ones from the CD which can be replicated exactly through streaming and the cloud.

No, because
1. It took a long time to get every album and if I sold them I wouldn't get back what I paid for them.

2. I like physical media. If I lose my phone I don't want to have to wait for a replacement to be able to listen to my favorite song.

3. It probably won't be too much longer before CDs are in the vinyl/cassette category and I like having past forms of media. I have lots of P vinyl and several cassettes, too and didn't get rid of those when I bought the CD.

4. The booklets and disk art will surely be different on remasters.

5. It's Prince. I don't get rid of anything.

Bambi82 said:

Bambi82 said:

Bambi82 said:

Again, they would have to be in much better condition than your well-worn collection* to be worth anything. Even classic records aren't worth much if they are merely "Good" condition.
*excuse my assumption, but I think everyone's Prince CDs and jewel cases are worn out by now, due to him never doing a remastering in the 1990s or 2000s.

Bambi82 said:

The lyrics printed in black ink on white paper, whooptedoo. As a collector myself, normally I would be with you on this, but those old Prince booklets have nothing special in them, especially compared to the vinyl editions.

Bambi82 said:

Well given all these explanations. I guess it comes down to being a cynic and never putting 100% of my trust in anything. Maybe after 2 or 3 innovations of electronic technology come to pass and I've bought the same item for the 5th time, then I might consider throwing away CDs.

Cinny said:

Bambi82 said: No, because 1. It took a long time to get every album and if I sold them I wouldn't get back what I paid for them. Of course not, you paid for them new, and then you played the shit out of them. Mine are actually still in good shape but you're right, used won't bring as much. I do have a few brand new copies I could sell but nah. Bambi82 said: 2. I like physical media. If I lose my phone I don't want to have to wait for a replacement to be able to listen to my favorite song. I am assuming you will be buying the remastered Purple Rain on CD, not a digital (phone) format. Absolutely... because I like physical media ^^^^ but I will probably buy it on iTunes for convenience, too. Bambi82 said: 3. It probably won't be too much longer before CDs are in the vinyl/cassette category and I like having past forms of media. I have lots of P vinyl and several cassettes, too and didn't get rid of those when I bought the CD. Again, they would have to be in much better condition than your well-worn collection* to be worth anything. Even classic records aren't worth much if they are merely "Good" condition. *excuse my assumption, but I think everyone's Prince CDs and jewel cases are worn out by now, due to him never doing a remastering in the 1990s or 2000s. I'm OCD, mine are still in really good condition but still, I don't get rid of my stuff so what it's worth doesn't really interest me. Bambi82 said: 4. The booklets and disk art will surely be different on remasters. The lyrics printed in black ink on white paper, whooptedoo. As a collector myself, normally I would be with you on this, but those old Prince booklets have nothing special in them, especially compared to the vinyl editions. lol Okay, fair enough.. the booklets are boring for the most part. Bambi82 said: 5. It's Prince. I don't get rid of anything. Hoarder! Yep. Always will be, I'm sure. lol

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Bambi82 said:

Cinny said:

Bambi82 said: I am assuming you will be buying the remastered Purple Rain on CD, not a digital (phone) format. Absolutely... because I like physical media ^^^^ but I will probably buy it on iTunes for convenience, too.

Okay, I don't get this at all.

You do know that if you by the CD, you can pop it in your computer and rip it to iTunes? No need to buy again from iTunes.

V10LETBLUES said:

Anyway, it makes perfect sense releasing the CD during the Christmas shopping season as they stand a far better chance of selling them. Impulse buys for that special Prince fan in people's life who is in his/her 40's or 50's who still owns a CD player.

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You just won't give up.

sexton said:

V10LETBLUES said:

Anyway, it makes perfect sense releasing the CD during the Christmas shopping season as they stand a far better chance of selling them. Impulse buys for that special Prince fan in people's life who is in his/her 40's or 50's who still owns a CD player.

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You just won't give up.

And you are too dense to get it

V10LETBLUES said:

sexton said:

You just won't give up.

And you are too dense to get it

Now you resort to insults. Nice.

Here's how much of a dumb guy I am: During the whole time Prince was trying to shut down various Prince fan sites, I got really pissed off and sold 28 Prince CDs at my local used CD store for $75. Then I had a change of heart and started buying back old Prince CDs. Now I intend to keep those and buy the reissues too.

sexton said:

V10LETBLUES said:

And you are too dense to get it

Now you resort to insults. Nice.

Well geez, you just have such a hard time getting that the CD era is over. Maybe old time Prince fans may buy them, but the market for them is dead. That's all i am saying and I have no idea what a couple of you are going on about.

V10LETBLUES said:

sexton said:

Now you resort to insults. Nice.

Well geez, you just have such a hard time getting that the CD era is over. Maybe old time Prince fans may buy them, but the market for them is dead. That's all i am saying and I have no idea what a couple of you are going on about.

The CD era is in decline, but it's not over. That's what the articles posted in this thread show you, but you ignore them.

djThunderfunk said:

Bambi82 said:

Okay, I don't get this at all.

You do know that if you by the CD, you can pop it in your computer and rip it to iTunes? No need to buy again from iTunes.

Yes, I do realize that. I meant to say "put" not "buy".

sexton said:

V10LETBLUES said:

Well geez, you just have such a hard time getting that the CD era is over. Maybe old time Prince fans may buy them, but the market for them is dead. That's all i am saying and I have no idea what a couple of you are going on about.

The CD era is in decline, but it's not over. That's what the articles posted in this thread show you, but you ignore them.

Here in the US (the world's biggest music market), in 2012, sales of physical music media already only represented 34% and digital 58%,. And the world's largest music retailer, iTunes, deals exclusively in downloads.
And every year the numbers dip by a large percentage skewing towards downloads and streaming. CD's yearly slide was 13 percent alone in 2012, while downloads rose 9 percent.

Japan, the second largest music consumer in the world is what skews the numbers. In 2012, Japan's sales of physical music media represented 80% while digital only 17%. Take Japan out of the equation and the fate of the compact disk is clear. No other markets represent anywhere near what Japan and the US represent in sales. And no other major market in the world skews as high toward physical as Japan.

There is no doubt what is going on in the music industry. Only the hard headed fail to see. Sure some countries today have a higher percentage like Japan for instance, but is is nuts not to see the big picture.

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Again CDs not dead yet:

sexton said:

Again CDs not dead yet:

CDs Refuse To Die, And That's Bad For The Music Business

The 2013 global music industry revenue numbers are out courtesy of the IFPI (International Federation of the Phonograph Industry – an outdated name if there ever was one), and streaming is now a huge part of not only digital sales, but all music sales. According to its latest Digital Music Report, streaming and subscription services climbed 51% last year, which accounted for $1 billion, over 27% of the total digital music revenue. When downloads are taken into consideration, digital music totaled $5.87 billion in 2013, up from $5.63 billion the previous year, despite download revenues dropping 2.1%.

While streaming and subscription appear to be the immediate destiny of the music business, the physical product side of the business refuses to die. Despite predictions that the CD format would be just a memory by now, physical sales of $7.73 billion still made up 51.4% of the total global revenue. Granted, that amount was down 11.7% from the previous year, but a $7+ billion business segment is still substantial by any measurement you want to use. In fact, it’s decreasing at a much slower rate than anyone ever predicted, and actually even grew by 0.8% in France.

All that said, total global recorded music revenue fell by 3.9% last year to $15 billion, most of which was due to a stagnant and slowly changing Japanese music economy, the second largest music market in the world. Japan still centers mainly around physical product, which took a big sales hit last year, while its digital sales have yet to gain much traction. Japan, along with South Korea, was dominated by local artists, who held the top 10 sales positions for the year. It’s not known if that might somehow be a factor in the 16.7% sales slump that occurred in 2013, but it does show that Japanese music consumers are beginning to exhibit their preference for other types of music delivery.

The fact of the matter is that streaming music (including via YouTube) is the future of the music business. With only 28 million worldwide paying subscribers, there’s still plenty of room for growth. But an underlying problem exists, which is the fact that physical product is still a huge enough part of the business that the industry still depends on it, yet it doesn’t appear to have a strategy for transitioning to a time when it won’t exist. For too long the music business as a whole has quietly tagged along on whichever path the tech industry has decided to take it, and it has ceded more and more of its control of the distribution chain as a result.

That being said, streaming services haven’t done a great job of marketing either. It’s rare to see an advert that extolls the benefits of having a huge number of songs at your fingertips anytime and anywhere. Too many times, a service seems to be marketing more against a competitor rather than mining the market for new customers to accelerate its growth trajectory.

Until a cogent industry strategy for the future appears, we’ll continue to see stagnant growth as we saw this year, with the industry revenue declining by 0.1% if you discount the Japanese numbers. There’s plenty of music consumers out there, and their passion and desire is just as high as it ever was in the past. The music production side of the business now has to coordinate with the music delivery side in order to see the market expand the way so many predict. If that doesn’t happen, there’ll be quite a few more stagnant years before we see the financial pot grow any larger.

Link

Again, Japan alone skews the numbers and as it's stated here, it is also changing.

V10LETBLUES said:

Again, Japan alone skews the numbers and as it's stated here, it is also changing.

Changing doesn't mean already changed.

The disc is still clinging becasue of Japan, I am not going to marginalize Japan's music buying habits, which is still huge, but like I said, take them out of the equation and it spells out the RIP for the compact disc. Let's get real here, Japan is not going to become the Cuba of the music player world.

The pie chart above represents the US only. It was 58% in 2012, I am going to guess it will represent almost 70% this year.

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V10LETBLUES said:

The disc is still clinging becasue of Japan, I am not going to marginalize Japan's music buying habits, which is still huge, but like I said, take them out of the equation and it spells out the RIP for the compact disc. Let's get real here, Japan is not going to become the Cuba of the music player world.

I don't see zero CD sales in any of the graphs you posted.

sexton said:

V10LETBLUES said:

The disc is still clinging becasue of Japan, I am not going to marginalize Japan's music buying habits, which is still huge, but like I said, take them out of the equation and it spells out the RIP for the compact disc. Let's get real here, Japan is not going to become the Cuba of the music player world.

I don't see zero CD sales in any of the graphs you posted.

Now you are just playing dumb. The end of the CD is here, playing dumb to try and win/lose more of your dignity is pathetic.

V10LETBLUES said:

sexton said:

I don't see zero CD sales in any of the graphs you posted.

Now you are just playing dumb. The end of the CD is here, playing dumb to try and win/lose more of your dignity is pathetic.

The title of the article I posted earlier says CDs refuse to Die. If CD sales were in the range of cassette sales, then yes, I'd say the CD is dead, but it won't be that bad for a few more years at the very least. CDs are still hanging around right now which you refuse to acknowledge.

sexton said:

V10LETBLUES said:

Now you are just playing dumb. The end of the CD is here, playing dumb to try and win/lose more of your dignity is pathetic.

The title of the article I posted earlier says CDs refuse to Die. If CD sales were in the range of cassette sales, then yes, I'd say the CD is dead, but it won't be that bad for a few more years at the very least. CDs are still hanging around right now which you refuse to acknowledge.

lol, just cling to something..shimy along and hope no one notices..

V10LETBLUES said:

sexton said:

The title of the article I posted earlier says CDs refuse to Die. If CD sales were in the range of cassette sales, then yes, I'd say the CD is dead, but it won't be that bad for a few more years at the very least. CDs are still hanging around right now which you refuse to acknowledge.

lol, just cling to something..shimy along and hope no one notices..

I'm not sure what you meant to type here, but it doesn't refute anything I said.

it is changing.. yes CDs are on the DECLINE, and Digital is on the RISE, but so far it's still about half and half saleswise, so there is a market for both. I'm with sexton, show me a graph where CD sales are the same as the cassette and you can call it dead.

V10LETBLUES said:

sexton said:

The CD era is in decline, but it's not over. That's what the articles posted in this thread show you, but you ignore them.

Here in the US (the world's biggest music market), in 2012, sales of physical music media already only represented 34% and digital 58%,. And the world's largest music retailer, iTunes, deals exclusively in downloads.
And every year the numbers dip by a large percentage skewing towards downloads and streaming. CD's yearly slide was 13 percent alone in 2012, while downloads rose 9 percent.

Japan, the second largest music consumer in the world is what skews the numbers. In 2012, Japan's sales of physical music media represented 80% while digital only 17%. Take Japan out of the equation and the fate of the compact disk is clear. No other markets represent anywhere near what Japan and the US represent in sales. And no other major market in the world skews as high toward physical as Japan.

There is no doubt what is going on in the music industry. Only the hard headed fail to see. Sure some countries today have a higher percentage like Japan for instance, but is is nuts not to see the big picture.

[Edited 7/9/14 14:26pm]

I'm not horribly interested in the physical/digital (I listen almost exclusively to digital, but do buy some things physically because, well--extra back up, I guess. And I like to hold things in my grubby hands. So I know they're real)--but I'm surprised by the idea that Japanese sales are 80% physical versus 17% digital. Two questions: why such a high physical number? And what's the other three percent?

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electricberet said:

No. In fact, when the original CDs hit the bargain bins after the remasters come out, I will by a bunch of them and put them in storage, to slowly appreciate in value as people start arguing that the original CDs sound better than the remasters.

If I had saved a sealed longbox copy of every CD I bought when I was a teenager, I could retire on the profits I would make from selling them on eBay now. People pay thousands of dollars for beer cans that people tossed out their car windows in the 1930s.

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I too have sealed long box copies of all the ones released in the USA. Not to mention never been played extra copies of all WB Prince vinyl up to The Gold Experience.