thedance said:

Yes databank.... you are right I guess,

The only reason to have The Bird, Jungle Love and Sex Shooter on the set is because these are in the Purple Rain movie..

Maybe a little like this 2LP-set, this collection includes these songs by The Time & Apollonia:

Prince - Strange Tales From The Rain:

http://www.discogs.com/Pr...se/3139238

Side 1

Let's Go Crazy 7.32
Jungle Love / The Time 3.25
Take Me With U 3.55
The Beautiful Ones 5.14
God 4.02
When Doves Cry 3.49

Side 2

Computer Blue 4.01
Darling Nikki 5.13
Sex Shooter / Apollonia 6 3.01
The Bird / The Time 7.40
Purple Rain 4.07
I Would Die 4 U 2.50
Baby I'm A Star 4.13

Side 3

Soft And Wet 3.01
I Wanna Be YOur Lover 2.57
Sexy Dancer 4.18
Uptown 4.07
Dirty Mind 4.11
Do Me, Baby 7.47

Side 4

Sexuality 4.20
Controversy 3.35
Little Red Corvette 3.08
Delrious 2.36
The Glamours Life 3.41
^

Notes

Double Promotional LP only released in Japan. Limited to 500 copies. Sides A & B configured in order of appearance in the film "Purple Rain".

An official Warner-Pioneer release.

[Edited 4/19/14 14:05pm]

i've got this and 'His Majesty's Pop Life' both still sealed. Sadly only worth a fraction of what they cost me in the late 80's, but that's the gamble you take!

Well, if we're talking "fantasy" as the OP requests, here's mine:

A single disc remastering of the original album that will stay in print and be available in all formats alongside a deluxe special edition 4CD box set that would only be available for a limited time.

In my fantasy, it would include:

Disc 1:

The same as the single disc version

Disc 2:

The expanded soundtrack

Some tracks would be identical to disc one, some would be replaced, such as LGC being the extended version, all other artist tracks in the film would be included

The tracks in the movie not on the soundtrack would be included in the proper order

Disc 3 & 4

All the edits, extended versions, alternate takes, b-sides, outtakes, video versions, etc

--

These would be accompanied by several related releases:

* Expanded Remasters on CD of Ice Cream Castle & Apollonia 6 that include all b-sides, edits & extendeds

* A 2 or 3CD live set from the Purple Rain Tour, never HEARD material rather than already circulating

* The Syracuse show on DVD, maybe a 2 disc set with another show and lots of bonus material

If I fantasize about a possible 4K remastering of the movie on blu, I might get in a tizzy...

* All the remastering would be done with HD audiophile aesthetics rather than the industry standard of squashed loudness.

* The packaging would be deluxe & eyepopping but would not sacrifice the important quality of actually protecting and preserving the disc for a convoluted design.

* Nothing will be edited for PC or JW reasons. Nor will anything be prohibited for those reasons. A disclaimer will be included explaining the importance of preservation for historical reasons and that the views contained in the lyrics do not represent the current views of Prince or WB. No one will notice because this is 2014.

And now that the fantasy is over I'll sit back, wait for the release, and get ready to discuss with you guys what went right and what went wrong...

LeGrinde said:

I am unfamiliar with the song Wednesday that has been mentioned a few time. Is it the Sheila E track? Wednesday Like A River?

"Wednesday" is a song that was performed by Jill Jones in the movie,but this scene was cut from the film.I've never actually heard it...it has never leaked.

SoulAlive said:

LeGrinde said:

I am unfamiliar with the song Wednesday that has been mentioned a few time. Is it the Sheila E track? Wednesday Like A River?

"Wednesday" is a song that was performed by Jill Jones in the movie,but this scene was cut from the film.I've never actually heard it...it has never leaked.

Thanks!

Yeah, I would love to hear that since Jill's album is one of my favs! And the 12" of All Day All Night is great too. I've got all that stuff on vinyl, but I remember spending $50 for the Japanese CD of that and The Family. Before all those pirated ones showed up on eBay...

djThunderfunk said:

Well, if we're talking "fantasy" as the OP requests, here's mine:

A single disc remastering of the original album that will stay in print and be available in all formats alongside a deluxe special edition 4CD box set that would only be available for a limited time.

In my fantasy, it would include:

Disc 1:

The same as the single disc version

Disc 2:

The expanded soundtrack

Some tracks would be identical to disc one, some would be replaced, such as LGC being the extended version, all other artist tracks in the film would be included

The tracks in the movie not on the soundtrack would be included in the proper order

Disc 3 & 4

All the edits, extended versions, alternate takes, b-sides, outtakes, video versions, etc

--

These would be accompanied by several related releases:

* Expanded Remasters on CD of Ice Cream Castle & Apollonia 6 that include all b-sides, edits & extendeds

* A 2 or 3CD live set from the Purple Rain Tour, never HEARD material rather than already circulating

* The Syracuse show on DVD, maybe a 2 disc set with another show and lots of bonus material

If I fantasize about a possible 4K remastering of the movie on blu, I might get in a tizzy...

* All the remastering would be done with HD audiophile aesthetics rather than the industry standard of squashed loudness.

* The packaging would be deluxe & eyepopping but would not sacrifice the important quality of actually protecting and preserving the disc for a convoluted design.

* Nothing will be edited for PC or JW reasons. Nor will anything be prohibited for those reasons. A disclaimer will be included explaining the importance of preservation for historical reasons and that the views contained in the lyrics do not represent the current views of Prince or WB. No one will notice because this is 2014.

And now that the fantasy is over I'll sit back, wait for the release, and get ready to discuss with you guys what went right and what went wrong...

100% agree! The Time might even warrant a box set instead of individual album reissues!

Man, it's easy to get carried away thinking about Prince's 80's music! Plus Vanity 6 and The Family and Jill Jones. Of course that's pre and post Purple Rain.

djThunderfunk said:

Well, if we're talking "fantasy" as the OP requests, here's mine:

A single disc remastering of the original album that will stay in print and be available in all formats alongside a deluxe special edition 4CD box set that would only be available for a limited time.

In my fantasy, it would include:

Disc 1:

The same as the single disc version

Disc 2:

The expanded soundtrack

Some tracks would be identical to disc one, some would be replaced, such as LGC being the extended version, all other artist tracks in the film would be included

The tracks in the movie not on the soundtrack would be included in the proper order

Disc 3 & 4

All the edits, extended versions, alternate takes, b-sides, outtakes, video versions, etc

--

These would be accompanied by several related releases:

* Expanded Remasters on CD of Ice Cream Castle & Apollonia 6 that include all b-sides, edits & extendeds

* A 2 or 3CD live set from the Purple Rain Tour, never HEARD material rather than already circulating

* The Syracuse show on DVD, maybe a 2 disc set with another show and lots of bonus material

If I fantasize about a possible 4K remastering of the movie on blu, I might get in a tizzy...

* All the remastering would be done with HD audiophile aesthetics rather than the industry standard of squashed loudness.

* The packaging would be deluxe & eyepopping but would not sacrifice the important quality of actually protecting and preserving the disc for a convoluted design.

* Nothing will be edited for PC or JW reasons. Nor will anything be prohibited for those reasons. A disclaimer will be included explaining the importance of preservation for historical reasons and that the views contained in the lyrics do not represent the current views of Prince or WB. No one will notice because this is 2014.

And now that the fantasy is over I'll sit back, wait for the release, and get ready to discuss with you guys what went right and what went wrong...

Can't believe I forgot the holy grail:

Maxi-Single on CD & 12" Vinyl for Computer Blue: Including ALL the versions in pristine quality!!

Marrk said:

thedance said:

Prince - Strange Tales From The Rain:

http://www.discogs.com/Pr...se/3139238

Side 1

Let's Go Crazy 7.32
Jungle Love / The Time 3.25
Take Me With U 3.55
The Beautiful Ones 5.14
God 4.02
When Doves Cry 3.49

Side 2

Computer Blue 4.01
Darling Nikki 5.13
Sex Shooter / Apollonia 6 3.01
The Bird / The Time 7.40
Purple Rain 4.07
I Would Die 4 U 2.50
Baby I'm A Star 4.13

Side 3

Soft And Wet 3.01
I Wanna Be YOur Lover 2.57
Sexy Dancer 4.18
Uptown 4.07
Dirty Mind 4.11
Do Me, Baby 7.47

Side 4

Sexuality 4.20
Controversy 3.35
Little Red Corvette 3.08
Delrious 2.36
The Glamours Life 3.41
^

Notes

Double Promotional LP only released in Japan. Limited to 500 copies. Sides A & B configured in order of appearance in the film "Purple Rain".

An official Warner-Pioneer release.

i've got this and 'His Majesty's Pop Life' both still sealed. Sadly only worth a fraction of what they cost me in the late 80's, but that's the gamble you take!

^ thanks for your story Marrk: (what did you pay back then -- ?)...

I own this 2LP as well, I have bought Strange Tales From The Rain for $ 400 on eBay plus shipping from Japan to Denmark. Not sealed but still in Near Mint condition..

[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/ecnirp2004/Prince/Billede0385_zpsf5bcc437.jpg[/img:$uid]

^ I have played this double vinyl set a lot, perfect sound, no scratches... and, everytime I get "high"..... in the magic Purple Rain spirit...

(slightly off topic sorry, please forgive)

[Edited 4/19/14 20:09pm]

i heard prince will include the ultra rare 'take me with you' tony m zoey deshanel duet .. plus its got a really hip edm beat to it now

NoVideo said:

paulludvig said:

I bet it will be 2 CDs.

First CD - the original album. Remastered. No edits.

Second CD - All the b-sides (some extended) + a couple of unreleased track we've already heard. No songs written by others than Prince.

I'd imagine you are 100% correct.

I theorize he is hypothetically 100% likely to be seemingly right.

paulludvig said:

I bet it will be 2 CDs.

First CD - the original album. Remastered. No edits.

Second CD - All the b-sides (some extended) + a couple of unreleased track we've already heard. No songs written by others than Prince.

This is what will probably happen if it's released at 11.99 reg retail 14.99 it will reach number 1 on the charts. But if the price point is higher than that we will probably get 2 versions. One deluxe mentioned above and 1 just being a remastered Purple Rain CD (without the extra b-side songs).

SoulAlive said:

someone posted this in the other thread.I'd be satisfied with something like this

Purple Rain (Deluxe edition)

Disc 1 (the remaster)

Lets Go Crazy

Take Me with U

The Beautiful Ones

Darling Nikki

When Doves Cry

I Would Die 4 U

Baby I'm a star

Purple Rain

Disc 2 (the rare)

Jungle Love

Modernaire

Sex Shooter

The Bird

Electric Intercourse

G Spot

God (instrumental)

Possessed

God

17 days

Fathers Song

Erotic City

Wednesday

Another Lonely Christmas (Full version)

Syndicate

Hello How are you?

Disc 3 (the remixes)

Lets Go Crazy 12"

Take Me with (unreleased full version)

Computer Blue (Unreleased full version)

The Beautiful Ones (unreleased full version)

Darling Nikki (unreleased full version)

I would die 4 U (12" Version")

When Does Cry (Unreleased original version)

Purple Rain (Orchestral Version)

Disc 4 (Live)

Syracuse Live DVD

Now that Photo and Track List is Funky and Nasty! (Nasty as in Awesome)

My fantasy setlist would be:

Disc 1:

The album as is remastered

Disc 2:

17 Days

Let's Go Crazy (Special Dance Mix)

Erotic City (Make Love Not War Erotic City Come Alive) (7:24)

God

God (Instrumental)

I Would Die 4 U (Extended Version)

Another Lonely Christmas (Extended Version)

17 Days (Unreleased Extended Version)

Computer Blue (Known as version #4)

Disc 3:

The Beautiful Ones (Alt)

Take Me With U (Alt)

Computer Blue (known as Version #2)

When Doves Cry (with Bass in the mix)

Electric Intercourse

Possessed

I am Five

Love & Sex

Lust U Always (Instrumental)

Baby I'm a Star (1981-1982 Kiowa Trail Studio)

Traffic Jam

G-Spot

Possessed (Instrumental)

Wednesday

Fathers Song

Big Chick

"Security Ensuring Thee

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databank said:

And actually I'm all against adding tracks on the album's CD as well. It doesn't make any difference for me because I'll buy it digitally anyway, so I can make a folder with the original tracks and put the bonus material in another folder, but if I was still listening to CD's I certainly wouldn't want 17 Days to start right after the last notes of Purple Rain, or having to jump at my CD player to end my listening experience with PR instead of some bonus tracks. Or if they wanna save some space and fill in the CD's, then they'd have to leave a few minutes of silence between the last track and the bonus tracks so people can u know, have that feeling that the story's over.

Because be assured that in 30 years the only available version of PR will be those remasters, and I'd like them to be the very same album the world fell in love with in 84, note for note.

I am totally with databank on this and other posts. PR should be delivered intact, unchanged but in awesome sound quality with a perfect mix to reflect how it sounds on vinyl. There should then either be a second CD with b-sides, extended and unreleased tracks OR if it has to be a single CD then leave some silence between the end of PR and the start of the bonus tracks.

While we are on the fantasy element though I would like to propose (predict) the following:

Multiple versions aimed at different audiences...

Release 1 - Purple Rain (remastered)
CD1 = original 9 tracks + silence + b sides/extended
Aimed at casual buyers, 80s nostalgics and curious newbies
worlwide sales 1m

Release 2 - Purple Rain Deluxe
CD1 = original 9 tracks + silence + b sides/extended
CD2 = outtakes, alternate versions
Aimed at proper Prince fans
worlwide sales 100k

Release 3 - Purple Rain Super Deluxe Collectors Edition (boxset)
CD1 = original 9 tracks + silence + b sides/extended
CD2 = outtakes, alternate versions
CD3 = Ice Cream Castles
CD4 = Apollonia 6
DVD1 = Syracuse Live
DVD2 = Purple Rain - the film
Aimed at hardcore nutter Prince fans like those who visit the Org most days
worldwide sales 10k

jaypotton said:

databank said:

And actually I'm all against adding tracks on the album's CD as well. It doesn't make any difference for me because I'll buy it digitally anyway, so I can make a folder with the original tracks and put the bonus material in another folder, but if I was still listening to CD's I certainly wouldn't want 17 Days to start right after the last notes of Purple Rain, or having to jump at my CD player to end my listening experience with PR instead of some bonus tracks. Or if they wanna save some space and fill in the CD's, then they'd have to leave a few minutes of silence between the last track and the bonus tracks so people can u know, have that feeling that the story's over.

Because be assured that in 30 years the only available version of PR will be those remasters, and I'd like them to be the very same album the world fell in love with in 84, note for note.

I am totally with databank on this and other posts. PR should be delivered intact, unchanged but in awesome sound quality with a perfect mix to reflect how it sounds on vinyl. There should then either be a second CD with b-sides, extended and unreleased tracks OR if it has to be a single CD then leave some silence between the end of PR and the start of the bonus tracks.

While we are on the fantasy element though I would like to propose (predict) the following:

Multiple versions aimed at different audiences...

Release 1 - Purple Rain (remastered)
CD1 = original 9 tracks + silence + b sides/extended
Aimed at casual buyers, 80s nostalgics and curious newbies
worlwide sales 1m

Release 2 - Purple Rain Deluxe
CD1 = original 9 tracks + silence + b sides/extended
CD2 = outtakes, alternate versions
Aimed at proper Prince fans
worlwide sales 100k

Release 3 - Purple Rain Super Deluxe Collectors Edition (boxset)
CD1 = original 9 tracks + silence + b sides/extended
CD2 = outtakes, alternate versions
CD3 = Ice Cream Castles
CD4 = Apollonia 6
DVD1 = Syracuse Live
DVD2 = Purple Rain - the film
Aimed at hardcore nutter Prince fans like those who visit the Org most days
worldwide sales 10k

Once again ICC and A6 have to be left out of this: they deserve their own deluxe package with all single mixes and b-sides as well as P's renditions of the songs and outtakes.

jaypotton said:

SoulAlive said:

I thought Prince wrote "Modernaire"

Nope - Dez did

Prince had a lot of input in the song. He can be heard on the song as well. Both he and Dez put the song together with Prince doing a great deal of work on the musical part.

joyinrepetition said:

jaypotton said:

Nope - Dez did

Prince had a lot of input in the song. He can be heard on the song as well. Both he and Dez put the song together with Prince doing a great deal of work on the musical part.

Still, Dez owns the masters.

mushmackalenta said:

The out takes are the most exciting element of a reissue for me. Without them I probably wouldn't buy the set. For me remasters are just a sales gimmick. I mostly listen to Purple Rain on cassette, I just like the way it sounds for me nothing is more exciting than Prince music I've never heard. Hopefully soon full details will be made available and as a taste they will release something like Love and Sex or Electric Intercourse. So I hope that there are at least ten unreleased songs included.

yes yes yes! cassettes rule .. all my prince is on cassette ..

databank said:

joyinrepetition said:

Prince had a lot of input in the song. He can be heard on the song as well. Both he and Dez put the song together with Prince doing a great deal of work on the musical part.

Still, Dez owns the masters.

And Dez wrote it so that would mean Prince giving away a % of the mechanical (writing) royalties AND performance royalties on the PR Deluxe set. No way he would do that. There is the possibility (though still unlikely) that ICC and A6 could be included as Prince wrote all the tracks and performed all/most of the music except the vocals.

Saying all that and despite my "fantasy" release above I suspect the PR remaster/deluxe will ONLY feature Prince (and the Revolution) performed tracks.

I personally don't want Sex Shooter, Modernaire, Jungle Love or The Bird on thsi re-issue. I want this to be Prince's landmark album and its B-sides. The Syracuse DVD would be an outstanding bonus.

.

Two options for getting those related artists' music remastered and issued:

1. offer a download code within the package for the lossless files (for a limited time). Let fans add them to their playlists as they see fit.

2. do the same thing as above, but instead of including it in the audio package, you include it in a future remastered PR movie package.

Se7en said:

I personally don't want Sex Shooter, Modernaire, Jungle Love or The Bird on thsi re-issue. I want this to be Prince's landmark album and its B-sides. The Syracuse DVD would be an outstanding bonus.

.

Two options for getting those related artists' music remastered and issued:

1. offer a download code within the package for the lossless files (for a limited time). Let fans add them to their playlists as they see fit.

2. do the same thing as above, but instead of including it in the audio package, you include it in a future remastered PR movie package.

NO! NO! NO! NO!

These tracks have no business being associated to the PR reissue in any way. They belong to the ICC and A6 and, for the last time, Dez Dickerson owns the masters to Modernaire (not that he wouldn't licence it but I doubt they'll bother asking him!)!

databank said:

Se7en said:

I personally don't want Sex Shooter, Modernaire, Jungle Love or The Bird on thsi re-issue. I want this to be Prince's landmark album and its B-sides. The Syracuse DVD would be an outstanding bonus.

.

Two options for getting those related artists' music remastered and issued:

1. offer a download code within the package for the lossless files (for a limited time). Let fans add them to their playlists as they see fit.

2. do the same thing as above, but instead of including it in the audio package, you include it in a future remastered PR movie package.

NO! NO! NO! NO!

These tracks have no business being associated to the PR reissue in any way. They belong to the ICC and A6 and, for the last time, Dez Dickerson owns the masters to Modernaire (not that he wouldn't licence it but I doubt they'll bother asking him!)!

BREAKING NEWS...

Just read that the Apollonia 6 remaster will come out in June complete with their version of Manic Monday and the Apples lead vocal of Take Me With U. This will come as a box set with Ice Cream Castles complete with B-sides and alternate versions. The bonus 3rd CD in the box set will be Prince's Purple Rain album that some people will remember from the same era...

sorry databank couldn't resist

SoulAlive said:

someone posted this in the other thread.I'd be satisfied with something like this

Purple Rain (Deluxe edition)

Disc 1 (the remaster)

Lets Go Crazy

Take Me with U

The Beautiful Ones

Darling Nikki

When Doves Cry

I Would Die 4 U

Baby I'm a star

Purple Rain

Disc 2 (the rare)

Jungle Love

Modernaire

Sex Shooter

The Bird

Electric Intercourse

G Spot

God (instrumental)

Possessed

God

17 days

Fathers Song

Erotic City

Wednesday

Another Lonely Christmas (Full version)

Syndicate

Hello How are you?

Disc 3 (the remixes)

Lets Go Crazy 12"

Take Me with (unreleased full version)

Computer Blue (Unreleased full version)

The Beautiful Ones (unreleased full version)

Darling Nikki (unreleased full version)

I would die 4 U (12" Version")

When Does Cry (Unreleased original version)

Purple Rain (Orchestral Version)

Disc 4 (Live)

Syracuse Live DVD

This would be a dream come true!

databank said:

Same with Miles' Ascensceur Pour L'Echaffaud: for years I couldn't stand that album because it was too long, until the day I realized half of the CD was bonus tracks, except it was not written anywhere on it. No that I've ripped all my CD's I just kept the original tracklist and I find it a very enjoyable album to listen to.

God, that's a great album, the main motif is really haunting, and there's that badass track with the great bass in it (sur l'autoroute or something like that). Weirdly I found a copy in Nice in the Matisse museum's shop, that was a nice surprise, although a rather strange place to get it considering it has fuck all to do with Matisse . Yeah the stuff added on at the end does take away from the tightness of the original album, but it does make for good mood music when you're brooding alone in your private study at night, clasping a glass of Scotch.

I don't mind added bonus tracks at the end of the album, as long as they're clearly demarcated as such. There have been several times when I've been listening to an album that starts off really well until it gets pretty banal and mediocre after a while until I look on the Wikipedia page and realise I've been listening past the end of the album through five bonus tracks. Sometimes, if I'm not paying attention, I even listen to the alternate versions, not aware that I've already listened to the track!

I doubt that'll be a problem with Purple Rain though, considering most of us have the tracklist burned into our brains.

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

databank said:

Same with Miles' Ascensceur Pour L'Echaffaud: for years I couldn't stand that album because it was too long, until the day I realized half of the CD was bonus tracks, except it was not written anywhere on it. No that I've ripped all my CD's I just kept the original tracklist and I find it a very enjoyable album to listen to.

God, that's a great album, the main motif is really haunting, and there's that badass track with the great bass in it (sur l'autoroute or something like that). Weirdly I found a copy in Nice in the Matisse museum's shop, that was a nice surprise, although a rather strange place to get it considering it has fuck all to do with Matisse . Yeah the stuff added on at the end does take away from the tightness of the original album, but it does make for good mood music when you're brooding alone in your private study at night, clasping a glass of Scotch.

I don't mind added bonus tracks at the end of the album, as long as they're clearly demarcated as such. There have been several times when I've been listening to an album that starts off really well until it gets pretty banal and mediocre after a while until I look on the Wikipedia page and realise I've been listening past the end of the album through five bonus tracks. Sometimes, if I'm not paying attention, I even listen to the alternate versions, not aware that I've already listened to the track!

I doubt that'll be a problem with Purple Rain though, considering most of us have the tracklist burned into our brains.

Happened to me many times as well

mushmackalenta said:

In the Purple rain Documentary 100 songs were mentioned that we're presented for consideration for the film. Therefore I hope for at least 25 previously unreleased songs.

Most of those songs are just the same music used on the Purple Rain albums official release. Like there is "different" songs but at its core of some songs its Darling Nikki (Kind of like remixes but not.).

kewlschool said: