chriss said:

luv2tha99s said:

I know that it might sound crazy, but enjoying pop culture before the internet was better. More mystery, things stayed around longer and you enjoyed something much more when you had limited access to it. Of course it was frustrating to find what you were looking for but that seemed to only increase your satisfaction when you found it. Satisfaction seems hard to come byy these days IMO.

Much agreed from an old schooler.........

I agree with this, too. I hate that my little boy will miss sitting by the radio for hours waiting for his favorite song so he can record it on tape (and get pissed for being slow and missing the beginning lol) or making mix tapes of his favorite songs and trading them with his friends (only to get the same songs back ) and going to the wrecka stow to get a new single, which will be sold out, and having to search for it somewhere else and being super excited to find it. I miss that. Kids today won't ever have to wait for anything. Since my son was a baby until last year I have bought him every kids movie I could think of on DVD but now we're buying them on Amazon Prime or iTunes because he just has to watch them on his ipad And mp3s, I fear, will eventually put the music stores out of business like the movie rental stores. They won't appreciate anything because everything is at their fingertips.

Bambi82 said:

chriss said:

Much agreed from an old schooler.........

I agree with this, too. I hate that my little boy will miss sitting by the radio for hours waiting for his favorite song so he can record it on tape (and get pissed for being slow and missing the beginning lol) or making mix tapes of his favorite songs and trading them with his friends (only to get the same songs back ) and going to the wrecka stow to get a new single, which will be sold out, and having to search for it somewhere else and being super excited to find it. I miss that. Kids today won't ever have to wait for anything. Since my son was a baby until last year I have bought him every kids movie I could think of on DVD but now we're buying them on Amazon Prime or iTunes because he just has to watch them on his ipad And mp3s, I fear, will eventually put the music stores out of business like the movie rental stores. They won't appreciate anything because everything is at their fingertips.

There seems to be quite a few young people getting into vinyl. I think its a direct need to have something tangible.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/22208446

Under-25s are behind a surge in vinyl sales

By Sinead Garvan

Newsbeat Music ReporterAlex Bailey, 19, prepares stock ahead of Record Store Day

Under 25-year-olds are the driving force behind the surge in sales for vinyl records over the past five years.

Research by ICM suggests 18 to 24-year-olds are buying more vinyl records than any other age group under 50.

It comes as record shops prepare to celebrate Record Store Day on Saturday.

Hundreds of musicians are releasing one-off singles and albums to encourage fans to buy music in their local record shop.

Spencer Hickman is one of the organisers of Record Store Day in the UK.

He said: "It's like so many kids now coming into record stores, when you have Arctic Monkeys saying, 'We go to record shops, we buy vinyl', you can't ask for anything more than that."

At one shop in east London, 19-year-old Alex is pricing up stock for Record Store Day, he explained why he buys vinyl: "The thing about playing a CD is you put it in, press the button and it plays.

"This sounds a bit corny but the artist has put so much effort in with vinyl you have to get it out of its sleeve, put the needle on and I think it's respectful."

Sales increase

Foals, Jake Bugg and Everything Everything are just some of the artists who are involved.

Tom Odell's releasing a special EP and he says although vinyl is more expensive, he loves the experience of going to his local record shop: "It becomes more of an experience buying a record.

"You go, search for the records, talk to the staff, they say, 'Why don't you get this as well?'."

According to the BPI, in 2012, 389,000 vinyl records were sold, with The xx's Coexist being the year's biggest seller.

The total sales figures are small compared to the combined sales of CDs and downloads which amounts to more then twenty million.

But sales of vinyl have increased steadily since 2004 and at the moment that shows no sign of changing.

Ben Grant, 18, goes to record shops because he likes the personal service

Music on vinyl is more expensive than buying a CD or a download and it can make a lot of money for record labels.

So it is important for musicians and their labels to have shops to sell them in.

Eighteen-year-old Ben says he fell in love with vinyl when he went into a record shop abroad, now he has more than one hundred records.

"There's something you don't get online which is the kind of personal service of having things recommended" Ben explained. "You feel like you own the music as opposed to having it virtually."

Sales of digital music continues to increase but Spencer Hickman feels there is room for both: "For years you've heard people say, 'Digital's the way'. There is room for both to exist, I think vinyl offers something completely different to digital or CD."

Yeah, a lot of people my age are getting into vinyl. I got into collecting vinyl when i was 16. To me vinyl sounds warmer and more natural, the crackling before the song starts, taking it out of the sleeve and cleaning the dust off...its all part of the 'ritual' so to speak.

I have a pretty bog standard record player with some desktop speakers, and i still think it sounds way more better than a CD.

Irn36 said:

Under-25s are behind a serge in vinyl sales

Thanks for posting that.. the more I think about it, the more I really do dislike mp3s. I would love to see everyone switch back to records but it won't happen. Tell ya what though, I've decided I'm going to start collecting and include my little boy and I think I'll stop buying his movies and stuff on itunes, too. I need to teach him to appreciate these things. Plus I was thinking, how long will we even "own" what we have bought? If something ever happens to Amazon (never know) or I get locked out of my account for some reason he won't even be able to watch the movies I've bought. Nah, time to switch it up. We're goin' old school.

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In answer to all the above about life b4 the internet I beg to differ. I knew pre-internet: save a few months in 2001 I didn't have an internet connection before I was 27, in 2004, so I've spent 15 years before that roaming in record stores looking for the rare thing and sure that was fun, too (I remember when some fella sold his whole rare related artists and Paisley Park artist to that wrecka stow near me: I managed to get about 20 ultra rarities for about 10€ each and it was like WOOOOOOOOOOW!!!) Still, never being able to find Time The Motion and many others pissed the hell outta me, that and not being able to afford a quarter of the music I wanted to get. Now I spend hours roaming online looking for the rare gem and I have just as much of a ball when I find it: even if I can easily find 1000 times more things there are still some rare things! And yeah sure considering the ridiculous amount of music I download I don't listen to each record as much as I used to unless they're really records I totally fall in love with, which still happen regularly with both old and new releases. And I have the records and movies collection of my dreams, one I could never have been able to afford (yeah OK I know it's evil to "steal" the music, please spare me the lecture: I know some oppose this vividly, I beg once more to differ and I take full responsibility for my actions). And I'm only talking about listening to music but the internet has really changed my life for the better in terms of access to cultural products and discovering new artists (movies, books and comics, too) but also in terms of being able to find an audience for my own creations as a writer, and in terms of being able to stay in touch with friends thru social networks and the news in France while living in India, and I'm not even speaking of unlimited access to information which is vital for me in my work both as a writer and cultural manager and as a teacher. I knew the days before the internet and I had a good life back then for sure, but hell I wouldn't go back for all the money in the world I haven't lost ANY of my enthusiasm, really, I'm still digging the things I dig and I just have access to more of it

I'll add that I can't speak for the new kids that haven't known the pre-internet world: maybe they don't appreciate it because they're used to getting everything easily, but for my part I know how it was without it so I fully appreciate it. This being said u know I remember my grandma saying that we youngs didn't know how it was to live without power, running water, no fridge or washing machine, telephone, TV or car, and nowadays u don't hear anyone complaining about that: we take these things for granted, we wouldn't give up on them for anything in the world and we have to admit that in the end they just make our lives better.

databank said:

I'll add that I can't speak for the new kids that haven't known the pre-internet world: maybe they don't appreciate it because they're used to getting everything easily, but for my part I know how it was without it so I fully appreciate it. This being said u know I remember my grandma saying that we youngs didn't know how it was to live without power, running water, no fridge or washing machine, telephone, TV or car, and nowadays u don't hear anyone complaining about that: we take these things for granted, we wouldn't give up on them for anything in the world and we have to admit that in the end they just make our lives better.

I grew up in the internet world, and literally if someone asked me if i wanted to go back to 1985 without the internet, i would go. No questions asked. The internet is a brilliant tool and I appreciate it a whole lot, but it's also very destructive towards the real world. You can't go anywhere now without seeing someone on an iphone. Nobody speaks face to face anymore. It actually saddens me.

The internet should of stayed how it was in 2006, it was there but it wasnt actually there in your face all the time. It was simply a thing that you went on on your computer. Not on your phone, or any shite like that. Youtube was better in 2006 anyway, anyone remmeber the evolution of dance? Once the most viewed video on youtube!

Wrong thread.

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Angelsoncrack said:

databank said:

I'll add that I can't speak for the new kids that haven't known the pre-internet world: maybe they don't appreciate it because they're used to getting everything easily, but for my part I know how it was without it so I fully appreciate it. This being said u know I remember my grandma saying that we youngs didn't know how it was to live without power, running water, no fridge or washing machine, telephone, TV or car, and nowadays u don't hear anyone complaining about that: we take these things for granted, we wouldn't give up on them for anything in the world and we have to admit that in the end they just make our lives better.

I grew up in the internet world, and literally if someone asked me if i wanted to go back to 1985 without the internet, i would go. No questions asked. The internet is a brilliant tool and I appreciate it a whole lot, but it's also very destructive towards the real world. You can't go anywhere now without seeing someone on an iphone. Nobody speaks face to face anymore. It actually saddens me.

The internet should of stayed how it was in 2006, it was there but it wasnt actually there in your face all the time. It was simply a thing that you went on on your computer. Not on your phone, or any shite like that. Youtube was better in 2006 anyway, anyone remmeber the evolution of dance? Once the most viewed video on youtube!

U need 2 understand that we're only at the very beginning of a mutation of the human species. Search transhumanism and the singularity on Google for more hints of what's to come ^^