I'm the right age to have been there from the beginning. Unfortunately, I wasn't aware of Prince until after the 1999 tour. Sorry I missed those super early shows - but to be honest, I probably wouldn't have appreciated them at that point.

Bambi82 said:

luv2tha99s said:

I know it's hard being a young fan; missing out on the zeitgeist of the times, but try being 14 in 84 and missing the 1999 tour cuz ur too young and missing the PR tour cuz no one in ur family thought to take u. Oh and how about making a whole mess of friends that were in high school with u that were P fans, having UnderTheCherryMoon bomb, and having no chance to see the Parade tour with said friends? Sniff sniff sobb sobb ..maybe it's better that you were too young. Of course I made up for all that in the late 80s-90s ,. but I feel ur pain. That all being said, my favorite Prince concert experience came in the form of the One Night Alone tour at the Kodak theater in LA. My gf and I waited in line all day in Hollywood and everybody stopped and asked "omg, who are you waiting to see?" Luckily, we were like 50th in line, and got 3rd row center seats. After years of nosebleeds and shitty seats thanks to ticketmaster, It was the best feeling in the world to have Prince so close we could almost touch him. I looked him in the eye and he threw a tamborine to my girl! I remember looking back at 99% of the rest of the crowd and thought that It wouldn't get any better than this! Your time will come young Padawan.

Ha! Well I suppose I can see your side of it, but hey, you still got Purple Rain on the big screen and the videos on MTV when MTV was actually cool. Why couldn't you see the Parade Tour? I think UTCM didn't do well because people took it too seriously.. I have watched it lots of times and to me, the comedy between Christopher and Tricky is obvious but everyone took it as bad acting. If you try to watch it from a comedic POV the movie is really fun and enjoyable. The only issue with that, though, is the scene where he dies.. I wanted to take it serious but Tricky was doin the MOST and I couldn't help but laugh.

Actually, I never got to see PR on the big screen cuz it was an R rated movie that my mom wouldn't take me to. Never mind the fact that my ex step day took me and my brother to SCARFACE, PORKY'S, and other various too-advanced-for-my-age flicks. He wasn't in the picture by 84, so no PR in the theater for me, waahh. However, my mom did bring home the videocasette when it was released. Just imagine my excitement! I had waited most of the year to see this movie and watch the music that I had listened to for months come to life in my living room. All was going well until "that" scene. You know the one..God starts playing and P starts playing with Appolonia's...well..you've seen it. As a 14 year old, there's not much more horrifying than watching a man diddle his girlfriend in front of your moms! HaahaaAAAAAUGH! To make matters worse, my brothers and unlce were there too. Oh well, it still blew me away. Cut to my friends and I skipping school to drive up to LA to see UTCM the day it opened. All I can remember is that it was sooo loud(the projectionist must have been a fan cuz that shit was ear-deafaning) and funny. It was no Citizen Kane, but a fun experience nevertheless. The reason we didn't get to go to the Parade tour was that he only did a few hit and run shows to promote the album and tickets went onsale the day of the show, if I remember correctly. So, no tour for me yet. That one really hurt, because after that tour, he didn't tour for five more years and I never got to share that excitement with my core group of HS friends. I have seen the Detroit birthday show on dvd since then, and ironically, that is my favorite era of live Prince shows.

All was going well until "that" scene. You know the one..God starts playing and P starts playing with Appolonia's...well..you've seen it. As a 14 year old, there's not much more horrifying than watching a man diddle his girlfriend in front of your moms! HaahaaAAAAAUGH! To make matters worse, my brothers and unlce were there too. Oh well, it still blew me away.

Omg this reminds me, I recently showed my mum Purple Rain (she isnt all too big into Prince, only knows his major hits etc). And she was like "What is this movie? A 15?" And I was like "well yeah...its Prince, what do you expect? The wombles?".

But yeah OP, i know your feels. Heck, I was only born a month before the gold experience came out! Luckily, I have seen him because I saw him in Manchester last month. But I know how that feels. I'd of loved to see Prince in his Purple rain era, or his Nude tour era. Or even his Dirty Mind era. Just Prince as...y'know...Prince. Not JW Prince lol. Dirty mouthed, guitar grinding Prince would be awesome to see live.

I wasn't a fan for the 1999 album, but of course liked the songs 1999, LRC, and Delirious. I became a fan when When Doves Cry was released. I was 14. I had my mom take me to see Purple Rain the movie and she wouldn't sit next to me. She also took me to see the Purple Rain tour in Indianapolis. Didn't see him again live until the Lovesexy tour in Chicago. Believe it or not, met him in the parking lot of the Rosemont Horizon. Moved to Minneapolis in 91 and been here every since.

[Edited 3/19/14 16:58pm]

I heard Controversy at a party in 82 and saw the cover of the album and thought.... cool. I was aroiund 14 at the time.

Soon after that I was listening to Casey Kasem's top 40's on the radio and he introduced Prince's new single Little Red Corvette.

For some reason (because of the car reference), I thought it was going to be some American rock-country road trip type song. But when he played it............... i though

I live in Australia, so not much more was heard after that, but when PR came along..... BAM!

I would give big bucks for the time machine. Great days indeed.

U R starting some stuff tonight lol

.

U R (I know some people are hating what I just did lol) not irrational

and it is one of those things to have lived thru. To still be in the throes of Purple Rain and

Around the World in a Day is in stores. Knowing that Prince is going to release at least 3 singles with Bsides and long version, the anticipation to what is going to be released. Will he make a movie out of this album, Dance Electric on the radio, opening the ATWIAD album 4 the 1st time ripping th plastic off, my brother leaning into me to get a look at the characters and paintings and fonts and lyrics credits

.

Or years earlier, hearing a mix of snippets of Prince songs/Protege songs because I didn't have a few albums yet and not the 1st Time album, hearing these songs that didn't fit any genre. Or going to a bar with my dad(in the daytime) and seeing a jukebox, looking 4 Prince, and seeing a song I never heard of before:Horny Toad, grabbing a quarter and playing it loud, that 1982 wild sound

.

Or going to a neighbors house (who was big Prince fan) and pulling out the Controversy album and slipping out a poster that made me feel devilish, of Prince and Dez in a bathroom with a crucifix in the middle...

.

Or going to a tribal urban store on a Saturday and hearing some music in 1987 that sounds way too much like Prince, did he have a new protege, is this an album that I missed? And hearing the owner announce over th speaker that we are listening 2 the infamous Black Album by Prince...forgetting why I went to that store, listening until it was done, and almost crying, like Prince just walked by. Calling my fellow Prince fan William (because he knew someone that worked there) and by Tuesday the next week I had the Black Album on tape. And seeing my friend Nikki loose her mind when I tell her I have a copy...

.

whewwww... I want to pull out pictures magazine articles and listen to some Purple Music...and I'm High

OldFriends4Sale said:

U R starting some stuff tonight lol

.

U R (I know some people are hating what I just did lol) not irrational

and it is one of those things to have lived thru. To still be in the throes of Purple Rain and

Around the World in a Day is in stores. Knowing that Prince is going to release at least 3 singles with Bsides and long version, the anticipation to what is going to be released. Will he make a movie out of this album, Dance Electric on the radio, opening the ATWIAD album 4 the 1st time ripping th plastic off, my brother leaning into me to get a look at the characters and paintings and fonts and lyrics credits

.

Or years earlier, hearing a mix of snippets of Prince songs/Protege songs because I didn't have a few albums yet and not the 1st Time album, hearing these songs that didn't fit any genre. Or going to a bar with my dad(in the daytime) and seeing a jukebox, looking 4 Prince, and seeing a song I never heard of before:Horny Toad, grabbing a quarter and playing it loud, that 1982 wild sound

.

Or going to a neighbors house (who was big Prince fan) and pulling out the Controversy album and slipping out a poster that made me feel devilish, of Prince and Dez in a bathroom with a crucifix in the middle...

.

Or going to a tribal urban store on a Saturday and hearing some music in 1987 that sounds way too much like Prince, did he have a new protege, is this an album that I missed? And hearing the owner announce over th speaker that we are listening 2 the infamous Black Album by Prince...forgetting why I went to that store, listening until it was done, and almost crying, like Prince just walked by. Calling my fellow Prince fan William (because he knew someone that worked there) and by Tuesday the next week I had the Black Album on tape. And seeing my friend Nikki loose her mind when I tell her I have a copy...

.

whewwww... I want to pull out pictures magazine articles and listen to some Purple Music...and I'm High

That was beautiful. lol

Bambi82 said:

databank said:

IDK how old u r but admitting u were 5 in about 1985 that means u were born in about 1980, so u'd need to have been born in about 1945 to be your age in 1979. Believe me u DON'T want to have been born in 1945: even Prince ain't worth that shit!

I was born in '82 and you're probably right. 18 would have been better..

IDK about that... growing-up in the 60's and being a teen in the 70's and discovering the internet when u're 35 y.o.?

No, hell no! No bloody way! There's no damn way I'd accept being born anytime before 1976 no no no no no!

databank said:

Bambi82 said:

I was born in '82 and you're probably right. 18 would have been better..

IDK about that... growing-up in the 60's and being a teen in the 70's and discovering the internet when u're 35 y.o.?

No, hell no! No bloody way! There's no damn way I'd accept being born anytime before 1976 no no no no no!

What's the internet compared to the rest? lol I could still learn to use a computer at 35!

Bambi82 said:

databank said:

IDK about that... growing-up in the 60's and being a teen in the 70's and discovering the internet when u're 35 y.o.?

No, hell no! No bloody way! There's no damn way I'd accept being born anytime before 1976 no no no no no!

What's the internet compared to the rest? lol I could still learn to use a computer at 35!

IDK, I'm just glad 2 b a late Xer/early Yer, growing up in the 80's was wonderful, being a teen in the early 90's was wonderful, being in my 20's in the late 90's/early00's was wonderful! I could consider being born later but never earlier...

databank said:

Bambi82 said:

What's the internet compared to the rest? lol I could still learn to use a computer at 35!

IDK, I'm just glad 2 b a late Xer/early Yer, growing up in the 80's was wonderful, being a teen in the early 90's was wonderful, being in my 20's in the late 90's/early00's was wonderful! I could consider being born later but never earlier...

No way, being a teen in '94 wouldn't compare to being a teen in '84! Besides BoysIIMen, Janet and Mariah there was nothing exciting about that year. Unless your taste was Ace of Base.

Bambi82 said:

callimnate said:

I heard Controversy at a party in 82 and saw the cover of the album and thought.... cool. I was aroiund 14 at the time.

Soon after that I was listening to Casey Kasem's top 40's on the radio and he introduced Prince's new single Little Red Corvette.

For some reason (because of the car reference), I thought it was going to be some American rock-country road trip type song. But when he played it............... i though

I live in Australia, so not much more was heard after that, but when PR came along..... BAM!

I would give big bucks for the time machine. Great days indeed.

It really was an exciting time to be a Prince fan

Bambi82 said:

databank said:

IDK, I'm just glad 2 b a late Xer/early Yer, growing up in the 80's was wonderful, being a teen in the early 90's was wonderful, being in my 20's in the late 90's/early00's was wonderful! I could consider being born later but never earlier...

No way, being a teen in '94 wouldn't compare to being a teen in '84! Besides BoysIIMen, Janet and Mariah there was nothing exciting about that year. Unless your taste was Ace of Base.

Boys II Men and Mariah Carey and Ace of Base...? U gotta be kidding me, right? You need 2 burn ur radio and start listenin to music 4 realz...

The mid-90's were a wonderful moment in music if only for the revolution represented by the electronica and trip-hop explosion! In 1994 alone Portishead released their first album and Massive Attack their second, Björk had just released Debut a year earlier, and in the next 2 years we'd get Leftfield, Tricky, Moloko, Archive, Lamb and Morcheeba just to name a few. Jungle and drum 'n' bass were putting fire to the dance floors in London alongside electrodub and raggamuffin'. House music was reaching its maturity at long last and techno music and rave parties were reinventing a sense of partying in open spaces with free parties that was unheard of since the late 60's. Acid jazz and rap/jazz fusion were an extremely creative circle with the Bristish side (The Brand New Heavies, Jamiroquai, Galliano...) and its american counterpart (Me'Shell Ndegeocello, Buckshot LeFonque, Brooklyn Funk Essentials, Guru...). Hip-hop also arrived at maturity with the golden age of gangsta rap and west coast g-sound led by Dr. Dre and his clique. New jack swing was its melodic counterpart and produced absolutely wonderful acts such as Tony Toni Toné or D'Angelo, with fresh bands such as TLC and Salt N Pepa somewhere between the 2 genres and yeah, Janet still rocked in the 90's, her 2 90's albums are absolutely delicious and have nothing to do with Carey or Boyz II Men's crap! Rock was fresh again after a decade of morosity in the 80's with the alternative rock explosion that came from the grunge scene and the new Brit pop explosion. World music was becoming a true genre at last thanks to the efforts of people like Bill Laswell who merged East-Asian, India, Arabopersian and African music with every possible genre of modern music, from jazz to pop and electronic music. Ambient became a true genre as well at about the same time with both an experimental side more related to contemporary music and an electronica side that was more derivative of trance music. Contemporary/neo-classical music also produced some pearls thanks to the like of composers such as Harold Budd and Gavin Bryars who were past 40 and reaching their full musical maturity.

I mean yeah, sure, if u wanna mention Ace Of Base, Boyz II Men and Mariah Carey for being representative of 90's music u may just as well claim that there was nothing more to the 80's than Kenny G., Kylie Minogue and New Kids On The Block!

And don't get me wrong, I absolutely love 80's music: I'm a massive fan of synthpop, new wave and post punk, as well as early hip-hop, electrofunk and the minneapolis sound, but the 90's had just as many musical revolutions to offer and just as many creative artists! Your statement is nothing but ridiculous

So in the end being a teen in the 90's made me grow up as a kid with the music of the 80's and didn't prevent me from rediscovering it later, just as well as 70's funk or 50's and 60's jazz, which I've completely missed since I wasn't born, but I can tell you that being 20 in 1996 and being a hipster listening to good trip-hop and electronica gave u just as much a feeling of being part of a cultural avant-garde and was as exciting as it must have been to be 20 in 1984 and being a hipster listening to new wave or early hip-hop!

And as for the internet, well... starting 10 years ago it allowed me to expend my musical horizons beyong all my dreams because I could discover 100 times more artists and albums that I could never have heard of if I'd been depending on record stores and traditional medias only, as I was before, so I'm glad I was 27 when I got it at home and not 47!

[Edited 3/20/14 12:32pm]

OldFriends4Sale said:

callimnate said:

I heard Controversy at a party in 82 and saw the cover of the album and thought.... cool. I was aroiund 14 at the time.

Soon after that I was listening to Casey Kasem's top 40's on the radio and he introduced Prince's new single Little Red Corvette.

For some reason (because of the car reference), I thought it was going to be some American rock-country road trip type song. But when he played it............... i though

I live in Australia, so not much more was heard after that, but when PR came along..... BAM!

I would give big bucks for the time machine. Great days indeed.

It really was an exciting time to be a Prince fan

Damn I'm sure it was, but 1994 with the name change, the WB wars, the reduced NPG with all the samples, Come, Gold and Exodus and the Beautiful Experience video and all the hype around all this was just a crazy moment for being a Prince fan

databank said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

It really was an exciting time to be a Prince fan

Damn I'm sure it was, but 1994 with the name change, the WB wars, the reduced NPG with all the samples, Come, Gold and Exodus and the Beautiful Experience video and all the hype around all this was just a crazy moment for being a Prince fan

yeah, it 1984 Purple Electricity , 1994 Purple Insanity(I mean that in a good way)

databank said:

Bambi82 said:

No way, being a teen in '94 wouldn't compare to being a teen in '84! Besides BoysIIMen, Janet and Mariah there was nothing exciting about that year. Unless your taste was Ace of Base.

Boys II Men and Mariah Carey and Ace of Base...? U gotta be kidding me, right? You need 2 burn ur radio and start listenin to music 4 realz...

lol I was speaking as my 11-12 year old self. I haven't cared about Top 40 radio for about 10 years besides a couple songs here and there.

OldFriends4Sale said:

databank said:

Damn I'm sure it was, but 1994 with the name change, the WB wars, the reduced NPG with all the samples, Come, Gold and Exodus and the Beautiful Experience video and all the hype around all this was just a crazy moment for being a Prince fan

yeah, it 1984 Purple Electricity , 1994 Purple Insanity(I mean that in a good way)

2004 was less exciting, let's see what happens in 2014

OldFriends4Sale said:

yeah, it 1984 Purple Electricity , 1994 Purple Insanity(I mean that in a good way)

I like that. lol

databank said:

2004 was less exciting, let's see what happens in 2014

Well it definitely hasn't been bad so far!

When I was a kid, I remember hearing Soft and Wet, IWBYL, and WYWTMSB on the radio, but I never made the connection between Prince and those songs. I either thought it was woman or Sylvester who was quite infamous at the time.

It all changed when my older brother brought home Dirty Mind. When I saw the album cover I thought wtf. Who is this guy wear speedos, stockings, and high heels? I mean we were used to artists pushing the limits on costumes, but Prince was in another field. But the minute, I heard Dirty Mind, I was hooked. Even at that young age, I knew I was hearing something different. It sounded fresh, young, gritty, and futuristic all in one.

The release of new Prince album every year was an event because you knew he was going to push in a new, unpredictable direction. It was a fun time.

lrn36 said:

When I was a kid, I remember hearing Soft and Wet, IWBYL, and WYWTMSB on the radio, but I never made the connection between Prince and those songs. I either thought it was woman or Sylvester who was quite infamous at the time.

It all changed when my older brother brought home Dirty Mind. When I saw the album cover I thought wtf. Who is this guy wear speedos, stockings, and high heels? I mean we were used to artists pushing the limits on costumes, but Prince was in another field. But the minute, I heard Dirty Mind, I was hooked. Even at that young age, I knew I was hearing something different. It sounded fresh, young, gritty, and futuristic all in one.

The release of new Prince album every year was an event because you knew he was going to push in a new, unpredictable direction. It was a fun time.

I grew up in Ky so I can only imagine what the people there thought about "Dirty Mind" Prince! I know my Mom doesn't have the highest opinion of him, costume wise, so I'm glad my Dad liked him otherwise I might have never discovered him.

Bambi82 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

yeah, it 1984 Purple Electricity , 1994 Purple Insanity(I mean that in a good way)

I like that. lol

databank said:

2004 was less exciting, let's see what happens in 2014

Well it definitely hasn't been bad so far!

We've had the grooves 4 sure. I guess what's missing is the feeling of craziness and new possibilities and surprises that we had in 84 (he was becoming a major music star AND a movie star AND a major music producer/songwriter) or 94 (he was doing so many crazy things with both his music and career and creating a new independent label and we had no idea where all this was going). Even 2001 was the craze with that NPGMC experiment which, that first year, sounded like he was opening the vault at last and many of us believed it was going to last forever! Or there was some excitement as well in 2002-2003, when it seemed like P was going to go thru a long experimental jazz period that would have allowed him to expand his musical vocabulary beyond anything he'd done before.

Now we may get a new album or 2 and they may be wonderful (I'm quite sure I'll love 'em) but in terms of his career it's kinda like same old same old even with the 3EG hype which was quite exciting at first, and these announcements of NPG Records being on the way to become a real label again with Kobalt were too, but finally it doesn't seem to represent such a different step in his career, even in terms of musical directions. I ain't complaining, just sayin' that I'd like P to shake things up again and I think the next step in order to do so can be either a major and unprecedented change in his musical directions, the creation of a true label producing groundbreaking new talents or a new website that would at last open the gates to the vault alongside possible remasters, but I don't see any of this happenin' in 2014. Nonetheless I don't really care, I'm over 35 and I'm perfectly happy with good music and as far as I'm concerned he keeps delivering just that so I'm cool

databank said:

a major and unprecedented change in his musical directions

Well FIL2N is definitely that, but I don't see him doing any more club songs (fingers crossed. I like the song but I need his guitar in my life! )

a new website that would at last open the gates to the vault alongside possible remasters

Imagining what might be in there from the early '80's drives me insane! I don't understand why he's waiting so long unless he intends to have 100 posthumous releases.

Bambi82 said:

databank said:

a major and unprecedented change in his musical directions

Well FIL2N is definitely that, but I don't see him doing any more club songs (fingers crossed. I like the song but I need his guitar in my life! )

a new website that would at last open the gates to the vault alongside possible remasters

Imagining what might be in there from the early '80's drives me insane! I don't understand why he's waiting so long unless he intends to have 100 posthumous releases.

I wouldn't go as far as 2 say that FIL2N is a radical new musical evolution: P flirted with dance music before (Eye Wanna Melt With U, Go Go Dancer, Fantasia Erotica, Children Of The Sun, Rhythm Of Your Heart, Sleep Around, Hypnoparadise) with mixed results everytime (inlcuding FIL2N), it's just a normal Prince song with a more commercial song, the same way Black Sweat or Love Sign were Prince songs designed to emulate the hip-hop/R&B sound of their respective eras. It's not a radical new direction the way, say, 16, The Undertaker, Kamasutra, The Truth, The War, Xpectation or NEWS were at the time.

As for the vault Alan Leeds once explained here that P isn't actually allowed to release anything recorded during the WB years, including unreleased and live material (with the notable exception of most of the Paisley Park catalogue that WB had to give back to him when they shut the label down), without making a deal with them. That would suggest that Crystal Ball and the WB material that was released on NPGMC were either allowed by WB or, more likely, a big fuck you to them thay they tolerated because they weren't able to release the material themselves anyway. The mere fact that CB contained remixes of WB tracks and Good Love, as well as NPGMC offering so much previously released WB material, including Thieves In The Temple and Horny Pony, and I doubt WB licenced any of this, shows that P wanted to make a point that he could do whatever he wanted with his music whether he owned the masters or not). I even suspect WB to have ordered P to cancel the release of CB II after it was announced, then cut the crap with NPGMC, which could explain why suddenly the doors to the vault were shut down so abruptly after starting to open themselves (let's not forget that P also wanted to release Roadhouse Garden at some point, so between 1997 and 2001 he obviously wanted to slowly make his unreleased and live catalogue available in one way or another). Only speculation, of course.

databank said:

Bambi82 said:

Imagining what might be in there from the early '80's drives me insane! I don't understand why he's waiting so long unless he intends to have 100 posthumous releases.

I wouldn't go as far as 2 say that FIL2N is a radical new musical evolution: P flirted with dance music before (Eye Wanna Melt With U, Go Go Dancer, Fantasia Erotica, Children Of The Sun, Rhythm Of Your Heart, Sleep Around, Hypnoparadise) with mixed results everytime (inlcuding FIL2N), it's just a normal Prince song with a more commercial song, the same way Black Sweat or Love Sign were Prince songs designed to emulate the hip-hop/R&B sound of their respective eras. It's not a radical new direction the way, say, 16, The Undertaker, Kamasutra, The Truth, The War, Xpectation or NEWS were at the time.

As for the vault Alan Leeds once explained here that P isn't actually allowed to release anything recorded during the WB years, including unreleased and live material (with the notable exception of most of the Paisley Park catalogue that WB had to give back to him when they shut the label down), without making a deal with them. That would suggest that Crystal Ball and the WB material that was released on NPGMC were either allowed by WB or, more likely, a big fuck you to them thay they tolerated because they weren't able to release the material themselves anyway. The mere fact that CB contained remixes of WB tracks and Good Love, as well as NPGMC offering so much previously released WB material, including Thieves In The Temple and Horny Pony, and I doubt WB licenced any of this, shows that P wanted to make a point that he could do whatever he wanted with his music whether he owned the masters or not). I even suspect WB to have ordered P to cancel the release of CB II after it was announced, then cut the crap with NPGMC, which could explain why suddenly the doors to the vault were shut down so abruptly after starting to open themselves (let's not forget that P also wanted to release Roadhouse Garden at some point, so between 1997 and 2001 he obviously wanted to slowly make his unreleased and live catalogue available in one way or another). Only speculation, of course.

True, FIL2N is a revisited genre but I was speaking in terms of how he's marketed himself as being more guitar-driven recently and how it was a big turn from that. Thanks for all the back info on the vault. It's amazing to me what some of you are able to remember as far as the legal aspect of his career.. I do good to keep up with my own business. lol Still, if he's already given them the finger and released some of it, I wish he'd get brave and do it again!

Bambi82 said:

databank said:

I wouldn't go as far as 2 say that FIL2N is a radical new musical evolution: P flirted with dance music before (Eye Wanna Melt With U, Go Go Dancer, Fantasia Erotica, Children Of The Sun, Rhythm Of Your Heart, Sleep Around, Hypnoparadise) with mixed results everytime (inlcuding FIL2N), it's just a normal Prince song with a more commercial song, the same way Black Sweat or Love Sign were Prince songs designed to emulate the hip-hop/R&B sound of their respective eras. It's not a radical new direction the way, say, 16, The Undertaker, Kamasutra, The Truth, The War, Xpectation or NEWS were at the time.

As for the vault Alan Leeds once explained here that P isn't actually allowed to release anything recorded during the WB years, including unreleased and live material (with the notable exception of most of the Paisley Park catalogue that WB had to give back to him when they shut the label down), without making a deal with them. That would suggest that Crystal Ball and the WB material that was released on NPGMC were either allowed by WB or, more likely, a big fuck you to them thay they tolerated because they weren't able to release the material themselves anyway. The mere fact that CB contained remixes of WB tracks and Good Love, as well as NPGMC offering so much previously released WB material, including Thieves In The Temple and Horny Pony, and I doubt WB licenced any of this, shows that P wanted to make a point that he could do whatever he wanted with his music whether he owned the masters or not). I even suspect WB to have ordered P to cancel the release of CB II after it was announced, then cut the crap with NPGMC, which could explain why suddenly the doors to the vault were shut down so abruptly after starting to open themselves (let's not forget that P also wanted to release Roadhouse Garden at some point, so between 1997 and 2001 he obviously wanted to slowly make his unreleased and live catalogue available in one way or another). Only speculation, of course.

True, FIL2N is a revisited genre but I was speaking in terms of how he's marketed himself as being more guitar-driven recently and how it was a big turn from that. Thanks for all the back info on the vault. It's amazing to me what some of you are able to remember as far as the legal aspect of his career.. I do good to keep up with my own business. lol Still, if he's already given them the finger and released some of it, I wish he'd get brave and do it again!

I had hopes at first with Screwdriver, which sounded really "dirty" and Live Out Loud which really didn't sound like anything P had done before, to have him turn 3EG in a really dirty, raw sounding, almost low-fi garage band and that would have been new and real cool, like The Undertaker without the Hendrix aspects and C&D without the overproduced aspects of some of the tracks, and a more "white" rock sound. Then with PlectrumElectrum then the few instrumental jazz-rock tracks he released with 3EG last summer it seemed it could finally turn into a new instrumental experiment in the line of his past jazz albums but the rock edge would have made it new as well. But finally it seems it's going to be more in the vein of FixUrLifeUp and Pretzelbidylogic and Funknroll, which are cool songs but waaay too polished and pop to be any different from what P has done before when all is said and done. It's more like P does now what Kravitz was doing in 95... Well, OK but no big thing here. Now of course I may be surprised by the album, so let's see... On a side note, what I can tell from these 3EG songs and FIL2N is that P seems to aim a teenage audience again, something he hasn't really ever done since Pruple Rain, and that may be a new strategy to get back into the charts... or not.

More than PlectrumElectrum, what I'd love to have is a minimalist electrofunk album with Extraloveable, Boyfriend, Ain't Gonna Miss U When U're Gone and the other songs he's released in that vein since last year. Here it's Prince doing what he does, but it's what he does BEST, and he'll always have me raving about it when he releases that kinda stuff!

thedance said:

^ sure, I am 48. I wanna have a time machine. And go back.

I wanna be 17 again and live in the 1980's and experience the music from Prince once again..

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If I had a time machine, I'd be sorely tempted to go back to 1983 and chloroform my folks so I could go with my friend and her older sister to see Prince & The Revolution perform at the Orpheum Theater, on the Boston leg of the 1999 tour.

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I look at a 13-year-old kid now and I totally see why Mom & Dad didn't allow me to go. They did the right thing and all (and I love 'em for it) but I felt robbed for the longest time LOL.

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It's all good. I'm so over it now.

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databank said:

Bambi82 said:

I was born in '82 and you're probably right. 18 would have been better..

IDK about that... growing-up in the 60's and being a teen in the 70's and discovering the internet when u're 35 y.o.?

No, hell no! No bloody way! There's no damn way I'd accept being born anytime before 1976 no no no no no!

I know that it might sound crazy, but enjoying pop culture before the internet was better. More mystery, things stayed around longer and you enjoyed something much more when you had limited access to it. Of course it was frustrating to find what you were looking for but that seemed to only increase your satisfaction when you found it. Satisfaction seems hard to come byy these days IMO.

luv2tha99s said:

databank said:

IDK about that... growing-up in the 60's and being a teen in the 70's and discovering the internet when u're 35 y.o.?

No, hell no! No bloody way! There's no damn way I'd accept being born anytime before 1976 no no no no no!

I know that it might sound crazy, but enjoying pop culture before the internet was better. More mystery, things stayed around longer and you enjoyed something much more when you had limited access to it. Of course it was frustrating to find what you were looking for but that seemed to only increase your satisfaction when you found it. Satisfaction seems hard to come byy these days IMO.

Much agreed from an old schooler.........