Tempest said:

Tremolina said:

Now I know that we have 'met' before. Yes, you are the brave and bold lady that refuse to be herself

Refuses to be herself? Once again, you don't know me personally.

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If you knew what I've been through in my life and the trials and tribulations that I've endured fearlessly & BOLDLY, you wouldn't be saying what you're saying. You're absolutely wrong about me.

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You can think whatever you like. It doesn't move me. The Lord above knows the truth.

If I have offended you, I apologise.

raddahone said:

Tremolina said:

Don't you agree also that's what P says when he chants"My name is Prince and I don't wanna be king"

He is not king, he is prince. There is something higher than him, something that came before him, before he was born : on the 7th day".

Didn't Akenaten come first? Pharoh and king really aren't much different. But, most of our Pharohs were trained in the mystery schools and didn't talk much about it. Words weren't necessary.

The Soul is ageless, deathless, timeless, and is what lives on.

Life and Death are an illusion of duality. Death is a dream. One drops the physical body at death and moves on. I am not trying to change your attitude towards what is in your reality. I respect what you believe.

Life is a school. Didn't St. Paul say that he dies daily. He wasn't kidding.

Life isn't solid. Okay - I do not mean that it is a gas. Life in a body is not always as solid as it appears.

The oversoul directs life on many planes at one time. Again, not trying to convert you - just sharing other paths.

Time is a huge illusion - man made.

Lots of the subjects you raise, are in fact covered extensively in Prince's music from the 90's.

You don't have to worry about converting me or not, I do not necessarily agree nor disagree with you.

It's interesting tho', that you take it all these directions.

Tremolina said:

Tempest said:

Refuses to be herself? Once again, you don't know me personally.

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If you knew what I've been through in my life and the trials and tribulations that I've endured fearlessly & BOLDLY, you wouldn't be saying what you're saying. You're absolutely wrong about me.

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You can think whatever you like. It doesn't move me. The Lord above knows the truth.

If I have offended you, I apologise.

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It's OK. Apology accepted.

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For future reference, please understand that I don't appreciate having things projected on me that aren't true. I've had this happen to me in the past as well (*hint*) and it hurt to the core of my being. If you really get to know me, you'll find that I'm as genuine as they come and I don't know how to be anything other than "myself". What you see is what you get. A seriously straight shooter.

Tremolina said:

raddahone said:

Didn't Akenaten come first? Pharoh and king really aren't much different. But, most of our Pharohs were trained in the mystery schools and didn't talk much about it. Words weren't necessary.

The Soul is ageless, deathless, timeless, and is what lives on.

Life and Death are an illusion of duality. Death is a dream. One drops the physical body at death and moves on. I am not trying to change your attitude towards what is in your reality. I respect what you believe.

Life is a school. Didn't St. Paul say that he dies daily. He wasn't kidding.

Life isn't solid. Okay - I do not mean that it is a gas. Life in a body is not always as solid as it appears.

The oversoul directs life on many planes at one time. Again, not trying to convert you - just sharing other paths.

Time is a huge illusion - man made.

Lots of the subjects you raise, are in fact covered extensively in Prince's music from the 90's.

You don't have to worry about converting me or not, I do not necessarily agree nor disagree with you.

It's interesting tho', that you take it all these directions.

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There's a lot I could say about the above but I won't at this time.

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However, I'm curious why Akhenaten came up? I'm fascinated by the Amarna period (Akhenaten & Nefertiti). There were many Pharoahs so why was Akhenaten specifically mentioned? Especially in reference to being "first" since he was obviously from the 18th dynasty. Or, is that "first" in reference to being the first monotheistic Pharoah? Just curious.

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[Edited 8/12/13 14:02pm]

You are not acquainted with Prince's fascination for Akhenaten and Nefertiti?

There's a lot that I'm not familiar with.

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I guess my question was more directed at what "Didn't Akhenaten come first?" means? Sorry if I didn't make that clear. in other words, come first before what? Or, in relation to what?

The 'Egypt thing' started with the Symbol album.

With my name is Prince and 'the crown princess of Cairo'.

Hello.
Vanessa?
I'm not recording this time.
So how are you?
How are u?
Fine.
Fine.
Excuse me, but ah, what's up with your voice?
It's a special phone, a tone box
A tongue box. oh, l-like in the movie barbarella.
Yeah. gives me courage, u know
Like a veil i can hide behind
It talks at, around, through her
Ok, so why are you giving me an interview
Because i want u...
Pardon me?
To tell the truth
Oh - well, i will if you will.
For example, the first song of your opera
Ah, the opera
Why don't you tell me your real name.
My name is victor
That is not the truth and you know it.
How old are you?
I'm into my 5th soul now so that makes me three hundred...
Why do you pretend to be a maze?
... and twenty. i'm amazed at your beauty.
I saw you on television.
320 hmm, don't sweat it honey, i'm too young for you.
Although rumor has it that the crown princess of cairo
Is now a member of the npg.
Are you there?
Ahem...
Do you know that the princess is 16 years old?
How 'bout this for a story. "320 year old robs the cradle"
What a scandal.
Scandal...
You know, if you don't give me the real story,
I'll have to make one up of my own.
So why don't you tell me the truth - the truth - the truth
Why don't you tell me the truth?

[Edited 8/14/13 13:31pm]

I guess my question was more directed at what "Didn't Akhenaten come first?" means? Sorry if I didn't make that clear. in other words, come first before what? Or, in relation to what?

I guess you should ask raddahone who asked "didn't Akhenaten come first"?

I would assume this refers to Akhenaten being the first pharao to accept a monotheistic view.

Back in the day, on Prince's early websites there were several essays posted on love4another.com for example about Akhenaten.

And there is of course Prince dropping his name and adopting that same symbol as his new name.

And being serious about it even also.

Dead serious in fact, since the next new 'Prince' album from WB that surfaced was Prince's artistic obituary 'Come'. Prince the 'slave' was dead. R.I.P. 1958-1993.

Sorry, I wasn't around for a long time (personal reasons). Basically, since Diamonds and Pearls. I'm unfamiliar with a lot of his music from the 90's and also between 2003 - present. I was around for 2000 - 2003. I know that when he got married he thought he found his soul mate, they met in another life (?), the Egyptian thing, destiny, fate and all that jazz. I'm not familiar at all with his beliefs in regard to Akhenaten. I'm assuming it was in relation to the whole Mayte * Prince * Egyptian thing (?). He thought she was a princess or some such deal.

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I apologize for not knowing too much about it but I have my reasons for choosing to withdraw for many years. I won't go into that.

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I don't think I ever visited that website either. I'm not familiar with it. Sorry.

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Regarding "first" in relation to Akhenaten, I'm assuming that it has to do with monotheism as well (as I stated in my earlier post).

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Thanks for helping me out.

Don't be sorry.

It's 20 years ago, I was 17 and still "hardcore".

There was a lot of talk by Prince back then about being "One".

Mono.

And about God, theion.

Not dual.

A lot of stuff about enlightenment.

Yet, these were also the days of war with warner brothers and fan websites that he didn't want to authorise or tolerate.

Primaël aspires to peace even though he himself occasionally declares war!

Seemingly adaptable and accommodating, he is nonetheless capable of gently but firmly asserting his rights and ideas, occasionally with a touch of cunning and opportunism or even by amoral means: like an iron fist in a velvet glove...

Yes, I'm familiar with the name change, war with Warner Brothers, websites etc. I heard about all that but I wasn't intimately acquainted with all the specific details.

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I was there with him in spirit during those years but not physically present (attending concerts etc.). I used to raise my hand and pray over him and Paisley Park during those years as I drove by on my way out to a correctional facility in Carver County (to minister there). It was between 1993 - 1995 approximately.

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So, even though I'm not intimately acquainted with all Prince's details, in a way I am (spiritually). I always have been. It's a supernatural thing that cannot be explained other than via YHWH.

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I hope that makes sense.

Tempest said:

Tremolina said:

Lots of the subjects you raise, are in fact covered extensively in Prince's music from the 90's.

You don't have to worry about converting me or not, I do not necessarily agree nor disagree with you.

It's interesting tho', that you take it all these directions.

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There's a lot I could say about the above but I won't at this time.

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However, I'm curious why Akhenaten came up? I'm fascinated by the Amarna period (Akhenaten & Nefertiti). There were many Pharoahs so why was Akhenaten specifically mentioned? Especially in reference to being "first" since he was obviously from the 18th dynasty. Or, is that "first" in reference to being the first monotheistic Pharoah? Just curious.

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[Edited 8/12/13 14:02pm]

Hi, i brought up Akenaten because there were messages in "The One" video stating
that Prince was Akhenaten in a previous life, and Mayte was Nefertiti. This brought me to do some re-search. Mayte was not Nefertiti but she was one of Akenaten's minor wives. Nerfititi was and is a complex being. Akenaten was a beautiful Pharoh and a high incarnation who believed with full being that All is One. This can't be disputed but every1 of the 1 needs to follow the path that they can apply their Devotion to get fully emerged into God. Prince was serious about this, I believe. If we look at lives sequentially, or reflect, then Akenaten would be a prior life.

Some Pharohs and Kings stood in their Honor for God's Honor. There are ones of course that wanted power only like Queen Hatchepsut's son who, because of this son, had both the Queen and her daughter murdered. All for the power or rule and not the Rule to be in love, be love, and serve one's kingdom which really is only given by God as a temporary possession.

raddahone said:

Tempest said:

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There's a lot I could say about the above but I won't at this time.

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However, I'm curious why Akhenaten came up? I'm fascinated by the Amarna period (Akhenaten & Nefertiti). There were many Pharoahs so why was Akhenaten specifically mentioned? Especially in reference to being "first" since he was obviously from the 18th dynasty. Or, is that "first" in reference to being the first monotheistic Pharoah? Just curious.

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[Edited 8/12/13 14:02pm]

Hi, i brought up Akenaten because there were messages in "The One" video stating
that Prince was Akhenaten in a previous life, and Mayte was Nefertiti. This brought me to do some re-search. Mayte was not Nefertiti but she was one of Akenaten's minor wives. Nerfititi was and is a complex being. Akenaten was a beautiful Pharoh and a high incarnation who believed with full being that All is One. This can't be disputed but every1 of the 1 needs to follow the path that they can apply their Devotion to get fully emerged into God. Prince was serious about this, I believe. If we look at lives sequentially, or reflect, then Akenaten would be a prior life.

Some Pharohs and Kings stood in their Honor for God's Honor. There are ones of course that wanted power only like Queen Hatchepsut's son who, because of this son, had both the Queen and her daughter murdered. All for the power or rule and not the Rule to be in love, be love, and serve one's kingdom which really is only given by God as a temporary possession.

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And do you know if Prince still believes this?

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I'm only asking because if he supposedly believes / or believed in what you just stated (which is not at all in line with Scripture) then there's a problem. If he believes that Scripture is true, then this information you posted regarding his beliefs regarding Akhenaten, Nefertiti, past lives, minor wives etc., would go contrary to Scripture making it false. Obviously, you can't have it both ways since truth is absolute. In other words, if Prince believes that the Scriptures are true (the Word of God), then he cannot also believe that the other scenario is true because it is contrary to Scripture.

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I'm not trying to start up any drama here just wanted to mention the contradiction.

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Thanks for the post.

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[Edited 8/13/13 14:21pm]

Tempest said:

One can't judge yesterday's norms and expectations by today's way.

Sorry, not sure what you mean by that since you're being very vague. I asked you if Prince currently STILL believes all that you shared about past lives, Akhenaten, Nefertiti, he & Mayte (the lesser wife) etc. That's relevant today because he claims to be a believer in the Scriptures. Those beliefs are contrary to Scripture. If he still believes the story you shared, then it's an issue / contradiction. My question to you was, do you know if Prince still believes all that?

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The truth is the truth no matter if it was yesterday, today or tomorrow. One's personal beliefs can change (over the years) but THE TRUTH never does. In other words, just because we believe something doesn't make it TRUE. God wants us to be lovers and seekers of TRUTH.

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Yeshua is the same yesterday, today & forever. Hebrews 13:8 He's also THE WAY. He changes not. He was yesterday's way, today's way and tomorrow's way. According to the Scriptures, we must bring all thoughts, beliefs etc. into the knowlege and conformity of Messiah (THE TRUTH). All believers must search their hearts to see if what they believe is a lie according to the Scriptures (whether it's past beliefs or present beliefs). That's how we grow. Conforming to the truth of God's Word by the power of the Spirit.

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2 Corinthians 10:5

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Peace.

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[Edited 8/13/13 20:29pm]

We don't have to talk about a "problem" here T. Nobody knows whether Prince truly "believed" or still "believes" he is the reincarnation of Akhenaten. Raddahone believes he was "serious" about it. I believe he was merely seriously playing with the idea, because it's seriously interesting.

A little more info on Akhenaten shows us that his name as ruler first was Amenhotep IV. Then he changed his name to Akhenaten, or "effective to the Aten", the One God.

The deified Aten is the focus of the monolatristic, henotheistic, or monotheistic religion of Atenism established by Amenhotep IV, who later took the name Akhenaten in worship and recognition of Aten. In his poem "Great Hymn to the Aten", Akhenaten praises Aten as the creator, and giver of life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhenaten

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aten

In the 1998 released song "the One" Prince sings "I am the One". On the surface it seems to refer to him being "the one" for his love/wife (Mayte), but it goes deeper than that.

Later, on the 2001 album The Rainbow Children; the first album officially as 'Prince' again (after the termination of his marriage with mayte and also of his publishing contract with wb), Prince revisited the Egypt theme on Muse 2 the Pharaoh. He said: "The opposite of NATO is OTAN" but on record, he pronounces "OTAN" as "Aten". The song is littered with biblical references and is about a woman who, if she could be muse to the pharaoh, she might be Queen...

...keen to continue his quest for that rare pearl. But does she even exist?

Muse 2 the Pharoah

If she could b Muse 2 the Pharoah
Then one day she might b Queen
If like Sheba, she then could bring presents/presence and wine
The helix he might get between them
In other words, intertwine
With the ebony and milk of her thighs
If she could be Muse and let him decide
Perhaps she'll let him decide

If she could b Muse 2 the Pharoah,
There is nothing he wouldn't give her c
4 the future of the nation rests in her belly
And if the Proverbs of the 31 and verse 10
Becomes the verse she sings again and again
She might b Queen

Take a load off sweetie darling/Let me run agenda thru ur hair
There's so much information 4 the next generation
Who's gonna drop it if u're not there?
And whether the enemy makes a run on the palace
Or whether the enemy does not,The children will be laced with the protection of
the word of God
The opposite of NATO is OTAN/And if the number 13 is such a bad luck number
When there's no such thing as luck/Then the berries, talons, arrows and stars
Are all superstitions, what the ./Get busy big baby cuz when dem devil come
Dem devil come dressed as light/Maybe they gon' fool the untrained mind
But nobody eye know gon' bite/Like a thief in the night/My Lord come and strike
Leave nothing but ashes to theleft, dust 2 the right
Holocaust aside, many lived and died
But when all truth is told/Would u rather b dead or b sold?
Sold 2 the one who can now mate the displaced bloodline with the white
jailbait.

Thinkin' like the keys on Prince's piano will be just fine

So there it is- 4 all 2 c/Now what's beyond u and me
Depends my friends primarily/On how u view ur role in Eternity

If she could b Muse 2 the Pharoah/One day she might b Queen

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[Edited 8/14/13 12:56pm]

On the Great Hymn to the Aten (emphasis mine)

Great Hymn to the Aten

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Great Hymn to the Aten is the longest form of one of a number of hymn-poems written to the creator god Aten and attributed to King Akhenaten who radically changed traditional forms of Egyptian religion replacing them with Atenism. The hymn-poem provides a glimpse of the religious artistry of the Amarna period expressed in multiple forms encompassing literature, new temples, and in the building of a whole new city at the site of present day Amarna as the capital of Egypt. Egyptologist Toby Wilkinson said that "It has been called 'one of the most significant and splendid pieces of poetry to survive from the pre-Homeric world.'" ^[1] Egyptologist John Darnell asserts that the hymn was sung.^[2]

Various courtiers' rock tombs at Amarna (ancient Akhet-Aten, the city Akhenaten founded) have similar prayers or hymns to the Aten or to the Aten and Akhenaten jointly. One of these, found in almost identical form in five tombs, is known asThe Short Hymn to the Aten. The long version discussed in this article was found in the tomb of the courtier (and later Pharaoh) Ay.^[3]

Akhenaten forbade the worship of other gods, a radical departure from the centuries of Egyptian religious practice. Finally, Akhenaten issued a royal decree that the name Aten was no longer to be depicted by the hieroglyph of a solar disc emanating rays but instead had to be spelled out phonetically. Thus Akhenaten extended even further the heretical belief that Aten was not the disc or orb of the sun (the Egyptian sun god Ra) but a universal spiritual presence (see Akhenatenand Atenism).^{[citation needed]} Akhenaton's religious reforms (later regarded heretical and reverted under his successorTutankhamun) have been described by some scholars as the earliest known example of monotheistic thought while others consider it to have been an example of henotheism.^[4]

Excerpts of the hymn-poem to Aten

From the middle of the text:

How manifold it is, what thou hast made!

They are hidden from the face (of man).

O sole god, like whom there is no other!

Thou didst create the world according to thy desire,

Whilst thou wert alone: All men, cattle, and wild beasts,

Whatever is on earth, going upon (its) feet,

And what is on high, flying with its wings.

The countries of Syria and Nubia, the land of Egypt,

Thou settest every man in his place,

Thou suppliest their necessities:

Everyone has his food, and his time of life is reckoned.

Their tongues are separate in speech,

And their natures as well;

Their skins are distinguished,

As thou distinguishest the foreign peoples.

Thou makest a Nile in the underworld,

Thou bringest forth as thou desirest

To maintain the people (of Egypt)

According as thou madest them for thyself,

The lord of all of them, wearying (himself) with them,

The lord of every land, rising for them,

The Aton of the day, great of majesty.^[5]

From the last part of the text, translated by Miriam Lichtheim:

You are in my heart,

There is no other who knows you,

Only your son, Neferkheprure, Sole-one-of-Re,

Whom you have taught your ways and your might.

<Those on> earth come from your hand as you made them.

When you have dawned they live.

When you set they die;

You yourself are lifetime, one lives by you.

All eyes are on <your> beauty until you set.

All labor ceases when you rest in the west;

When you rise you stir [everyone] for the King,

Every leg is on the move since you founded the earth.

You rouse them for your son who came from your body.

The King who lives by Maat, the Lord of the Two Lands,

Neferkheprure, Sole-one-of-Re,

The Son of Re who lives by Maat. the Lord of crowns,

Akhenatrn, great in his lifetime;

(And) the great Queen whom he loves, the Lady of the Two Lands,

Nefer-nefru-Aten Nefertiti, living forever.^[6]

Analysis

Analyses of the poem are divided between those considering it as a work of literature, and those considering its political and socio-religious intentions.

James Henry Breasted considered Akhenaten to be the first monotheist and scientist in history. In 1899, Flinders Petrie wrote:

If this were a new religion, invented to satisfy our modern scientific conceptions, we could not find a flaw in the correctness of this view of the energy of the solar system. How much Akhenaten understood, we cannot say, but he certainly bounded forward in his views and symbolism to a position which we cannot logically improve upon at the present day. Not a rag of superstition or of falsity can be found clinging to this new worship evolved out of the old Aton of Heliopolis, the sole Lord of the universe.^[7]

Miriam Lichtheim describes the hymn as "a beautiful statement of the doctrine of the One God.".^[8]

In 1913 Henry Hall contended that the pharaoh was the “first example of the scientific mind.”^[9]

Egyptologist Dominic Montserrat discusses the terminology used to describe these texts, describing them as formal poems or royal eulogies. He views the word 'hymn' as suggesting "outpourings of emotion" while he sees them as "eulogies, formal and rhetorical statements of praise" honoring Aten and the royal couple. He credits James Henry Breasted with the popularisation of them as hymns saying that Breasted (erroneously) saw them as "a gospel of the beauty and beneficience of the natural order, a recognition of the message of nature to the soul of man"(quote from Breasted).^[10]

Monsterrat argues that all the versions of the hymns focus on the king and suggests that the real innovation is to redefine the relationship of god and king in a way that benefited Akhenaten, quoting the statement of Egyptologist John Baines that "Amarna religion was a religion of god and king, or even of king first and then god."^[11][12]

In his book "Reflections on the Psalms", C.S. Lewis compared the Hymn to the Psalms of the Judaeo-Christian canon, as did Breasted (who broke them up into stanzas to resemble Western poems).^[13] Miriam Lichtheim commented about an alleged resemblance with Psalm 104 saying that "The resemblances are, however, more likely to be the result of the generic similarity between Egyptian hymns and biblical psalms. A specific literary interdependence is not probable."^[14]

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...o_the_Aten

[Edited 8/14/13 9:51am]

Tempest said:

Sorry, not sure what you mean by that since you're being very vague. I asked you if Prince currently STILL believes all that you shared about past lives, Akhenaten, Nefertiti, he & Mayte (the lesser wife) etc. That's relevant today because he claims to be a believer in the Scriptures. Those beliefs are contrary to Scripture. If he still believes the story you shared, then it's an issue / contradiction. My question to you was, do you know if Prince still believes all that?

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The truth is the truth no matter if it was yesterday, today or tomorrow. One's personal beliefs can change (over the years) but THE TRUTH never does. In other words, just because we believe something doesn't make it TRUE. God wants us to be lovers and seekers of TRUTH.

*

Yeshua is the same yesterday, today & forever. Hebrews 13:8 He's also THE WAY. He changes not. He was yesterday's way, today's way and tomorrow's way. According to the Scriptures, we must bring all thoughts, beliefs etc. into the knowlege and conformity of Messiah (THE TRUTH). All believers must search their hearts to see if what they believe is a lie according to the Scriptures (whether it's past beliefs or present beliefs). That's how we grow. Conforming to the truth of God's Word by the power of the Spirit.

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2 Corinthians 10:5

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Peace.

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[Edited 8/13/13 20:29pm]

Hi, I was being vague because it is not my right to know unless Prince chooses to discuss it as to what his internal/inside beliefs are of his consciousness. He deserves the space inside to keep his beliefs private and I pray that he is always protected in this manner by Spirit.

Thinking of kings, didn't Martin Luther King change his name to this from another name? What gave him the right to take on the word, King? Was Martin Luther, the reformer his role model? He was and is a beautiful being and was supported by much Love from Above during his ordained journey to help us evolve in consiousness to speak and be the loving and living truth. Some of my friends question his affair or was it affairs? I don't know about these. But, it was this beautiful being who led us to a higher degree of freedom.

The Light is the Truth. It is important to know and live the Scriptures that you believe in. It is also important to become one with the Truth that you seek.

As far as Prince Primael, the soul that makes up and animates that body that we know as Mr. Prince Roger Nelson will always be a Prince in my book.

One Song

I am the universe
The sun, the moon and sea
I am the energy
4 that is what I believe
I can be contradiction
'cause that is all I see
But I am the universe
And the universe is me

I am the one song (Ah yes)
And that one song is free
All things come from this one song (Yes they do, uh)
The garden and the tree
If everything, everything is present
What is will always be
This here is the first and the last song
And all that come between

When language falls like a wounded soldier
And it's covered by the sea
All the sadness
All these unanswered questions
Keep me company
(Company, company, company come 2 me, come 2 me please!)
Here at the center of it all
(I know)
I know that U can only come from me

(I am the universe)
Yes it will, oh, yes it will
(The sun, the moon and sea)
Where else is it gonna come from but me?
(I am the universe)
Oh my, my my my my my my my universe
(The universe is me)
(I am the universe)
(The sun, the moon and sea)
(I am the universe)
(We are the universe) {x2}
(The universe is me)
One truth (One truth)
One song (One song)
One energy

Ever since I was a little baby
I had 2 have double everything
When they tell me that's enough
That's when I wanna fill my cup
2 the top, Johnny, hear me sing
CHORUS:
Emancipation - free 2 do what I wanna
Emancipation - see U in the purple rain
Emancipation - free 2 do what I wanna
Emancipation - break the chain, break the chain

Ever since that Eve did unto Adam, alright
What somebody been sho'nuff doin' 2 me (Watch it!)
I've been tryin' 2 break the chain
Get my little ass out the game
I'd rather sing with a bit more harmony, oh

CHORUS

Johnny please, huh, when I was on my knees
My back was broken and my spirit ill at ease
And now it seems just like the autumn leaves
Your money's turned from green 2 brown and now U best believe

CHORUS


Emancipation
Free - don't think I ain't!

Emancipation

[Edited 8/14/13 10:13am]

also from the album

The Sacrifice of Victor Lyrics

What is sacrifice?
(We s, we s, we s, we sacrifice)
N P G in mass attack, Sonny, please
(We sacrifice)
Church if you will, please turn to the book of Victor
(We s, We s)

We like to start at the top if you don't mind
We sacrifice
(Don't say it, preacher)

I was born on a blood stained table
Cord wrapped around my neck
Epileptic 'til the age of seven
I was sure Heaven marked the deck
(We sacrifice)

I know, joy lives 'round the corner
(Joy for sale down on the corner)
(We sacrifice)
One day I'll visit her, I'm gonna
(Out on my block, I'm just a loner)
(We sacrifice)

When she tell me everythin'
(Tell me)
That's when the angels sing
(Sacrifice)
That's when the victory is sho 'nuff
(Sho 'nuff down with the sacrifice)
(We sacrifice)

Help me
(Don't say it, preacher)

Mama held up her baby for protection
From a man with a strap in his hand
Ask the Victor 'bout pain and rejection
You think he don't, when he do understand

(We sacrifice)
I know, Joy lives 'round the corner
(Joy for sale down on the corner)
(We sacrifice)
One day I'll visit her, I'm gonna
(Out on my block, I'm just a loner)
(We sacrifice)

When she tell me everythin'
(Tell me)
That's when the angels sing
(Sacrifice)
That's when the victory is sho 'nuff
(Sho 'nuff down with the sacrifice)
(We sacrifice)

Help me

S A C R I F I C E
We, we, we sacrifice
(Don't say it, preacher)
Sac-sac-sacrifice

We, we, we sacrifice
We, we, we sacrifice
Sacrifice, if you turn the page
(Don't say it, preacher)

1967, in a bus marked, 'Public School'
Rode me and a group of unsuspectin' political tools
Our parents wondered what
It was like to have another color near

So they put their babies together to eliminate the fear
We sacrifice
Yes we did fightin' one another
We sacrifice
(Don't say it, preacher)
All because of color

The angel of hate
She taught me how to kick her
If she called me anythin' but Victor
(You mean like nigger?)

If the only thing that tells me is, father time
Then sacrifice is the mutha sublime, we love it
Listen mutha, we sacrifice

Don't, don't, don't say it preacher

We sacrifice
(Well, well, well, well)
(What is sacrifice?)
Hold yo' text, deacon

Never understood my old friends laughin'
They got high when everythin' else got wrong
(Pass the booze up here)
Dr. King was killed and the streets they started burnin'
When the smoke was cleared their high was gone

Education got important so important to Victor
A little more important than ripple and weed
Bernadette's a lady and she told me
(What she say?)

"Whatever you do son
A little discipline is what you need
Is what u need, you need to sacrifice"
We sacrifice

I know, joy lives 'round the corner
(Joy for sale down on the corner)
(We sacrifice)
One day I'll visit her, I'm gonna
(Out on my block, I'm just a loner)
(We sacrifice)
When she tell me everythin'
(Tell me)

That's when the angels sing
(Sacrifice)
That's when the victory is sho 'nuff
(Sho 'nuff down with the sacrifice)
(We sacrifice)
(What is sacrifice?)
(We sacrifice)

S A C R I F I C E
(We sacrifice)
Joy around the corner
(Hey Wendy, how come we)
(We sacrifice)

'Scuse me y'all
(We sacrifice)
We don't don't mean to take up yo' time
(Joy around the corner)
But we got somethin' heavy on our minds
(We sacrifice)
Yes, we do
(We sacrifice)

Sometimes, you gotta leave the one you love
Somebody, anybody, everybody wave your hand
Around the corner, there's another sacrifice
(Joy around the corner)
But you got to do the best you can, y'all
(We sacrifice)

Say you got to go through it
(Go through it)
You got to go through it all
(Go through it all)

High glory, yeah
Sell it, don't tell it, don't tell me
(Joy around the corner)
[Incomprehensible] nice at my feet

Lord, I might get tired
But I, I've got to keep on
(We sacrifice)
Walkin' down this road
(We sacrifice)

Keep on walkin' down this road
(Joy around the corner)
When I reach my destination
(We sacrifice)
My name will be, Victor

Amen

Prince confirmed his name and announced his name change on the album.

It was a sacrifice. He sacrificed 'Prince'.

Therefore, on the next album 'Come', Prince was 'dead'.

But 'he lived' on, he has his 'spiritual re-birth' as .

And from that new spirit he released the Gold Experience as 's official first album.

Also the album that would get him released, free, from his recording contract with Warner brothers.

But it wasn't just about contractual freedom, it was very much also about spiritual freedom.

I still vividly remember the 1993 Act II Tour.

Prince had just proclaimed his name change on the 7th of June and I saw him in concert in the Netherlands on the 10th

of August.

Everybody was all hyped up by the sudden name change, which to the attentive listener shouldn't have been so sudden.

Songs played that night:

My Name Is Prince	.	.
	Sexy M.F. / Love 2 The 9's	.	.
	The Beautiful Ones	.	.
	Let's Go Crazy	.	.
	Kiss	.	.
	Irresistible Bitch	.	.
	She's Always In My Hair	.	.
	Bambi	.	.
	Sometimes It Snows In April	.	.
	The Cross	.	.
	Sign O' The Times	.	.
	Purple Rain	.	.
	Thunder / When Doves Cry / Nothing Compares 2 U / And God Created Woman / Diamonds And Pearls		instrumental interlude
[Piano set] Venus De Milo . . Under The Cherry Moon (instrumental) . . Blue Light . . Delirious . w/ full band backing Little Red Corvette . . Strollin' . . Scandalous . . Girls & Boys . . 7 incl. 'Arabic Intro' . Come . . Endorphinmachine . . Peach incl. Chaos And Disorder (instrumental) coda . . Johnny . .

Before the encore started with Come, Prince first quoted the lyrics of 'What's my Name':

Tell me, what's my name?
Tell me, what's my name?
What's my name?

Take my name, I don't need it
Nothing stays the same anyway
Take my fame, I can't use it
My girlfriend calls me lame, the game was over yesterday

What's my name?

come, come...

Do you dream in color or do you discriminate?
Do you love others, do you love or do you hate?
Do you worship fire or do you worship a dove?
Do you live a liar or do you live for love?

What's your name?

And then he went on with:

Holland... they say i make too much music, they say you can't keep up

but I say that I make just enough music, I say that there is nobody that can keep it up like you, come, come..

Holland... how you gonna stop the music when the voice says Come!

Yeah, I was kinda "hardcore" back then

[Edited 8/14/13 11:58am]

Another thing, for those interested in 'the beginning' of the concert, of the Act II, starting off with My name is Prince:

When Prince started singing this, it was Mayte coming down from the top of the building or 'heaven', on a swing lol, dressed as Prince, the way he was dressed in the video clip of the song, with the golden chained police hat on, playbacking the lyrics.

So those who didn't know really thought it was Prince coming down swinging, but it was Mayte, his (future) wife. She reveiled herself at the end of the song, and then Prince showed up on stage as the Sexy MF.

Lord knows... it was terrific pop theater, true opera almost!

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[Edited 8/14/13 12:57pm]

WOW, someone's been busy posting today.

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I promise to come back and read all of it when I have some more time.

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Thanks for taking the time to share.

Whatever you like to do.

I am sharing, not just with you.

And it is merely me reproducing what Prince himself has already shared.