imago said:

This is going to go well, like his other partnership ventures.

Sassey said:

"Partnership pact" It's still a CONtract.

FutureShock said:

Times have changed. Big music companys (do they still exist?) don't have the same clout that they used to have. A business model like Kobalt's which seems to understand that in this digital age, the role of a music company should be very limited. I mean really, what does "distribution" mean in a time when as soon as the music is put on the internet, it's instantly available to everyone? So hopefully this will work out because I think this kind of partnership is what Prince wanted all along. If it works, maybe it will give Prince some stability on when, where, and how his music is released.

Times may have changed, but it's still all about the money, and the profit they're expecting Prince to give them.

RodeoSchro said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Pur-lease. They had to GIVE AWAY TICKETS.

Prince has not made you happy since approximately 1988. That is 25 years ago. Here, let me type it so that you really understand:

PRINCE HAS NOT MADE YOU HAPPY IN TWENTY FIVE YEARS.

PRINCE HAS NOT MADE YOU HAPPY IN A QUARTER OF A CENTURY.

And yet you come here quite often, for no other reason than to degrade anything and everything Prince does.

IT HAS BEEN TWENTY FIVE YEARS SINCE HE'S DONE ANYTHING YOU LIKED.

Dude, you are so owned it isn't even funny. Why have you been torturing yourself FOR A QUARTER OF A CENTURY?

Please leave this site and never come back. Not for our sakes - FOR YOURS.

.

[Edited 5/21/13 7:48am]

Bart is like a jilted lover; a woman scorned. Di dhe make you swallow when he said he wouldn't Bart? Is that why you so mad...lol

RodeoSchro said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Pur-lease. They had to GIVE AWAY TICKETS.

Prince has not made you happy since approximately 1988. That is 25 years ago. Here, let me type it so that you really understand:

PRINCE HAS NOT MADE YOU HAPPY IN TWENTY FIVE YEARS.

PRINCE HAS NOT MADE YOU HAPPY IN A QUARTER OF A CENTURY.

And yet you come here quite often, for no other reason than to degrade anything and everything Prince does.

IT HAS BEEN TWENTY FIVE YEARS SINCE HE'S DONE ANYTHING YOU LIKED.

Dude, you are so owned it isn't even funny. Why have you been torturing yourself FOR A QUARTER OF A CENTURY?

Please leave this site and never come back. Not for our sakes - FOR YOURS.

.

[Edited 5/21/13 7:48am]

RodeoSchro said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Pur-lease. They had to GIVE AWAY TICKETS.

Prince has not made you happy since approximately 1988. That is 25 years ago. Here, let me type it so that you really understand:

PRINCE HAS NOT MADE YOU HAPPY IN TWENTY FIVE YEARS.

PRINCE HAS NOT MADE YOU HAPPY IN A QUARTER OF A CENTURY.

And yet you come here quite often, for no other reason than to degrade anything and everything Prince does.

IT HAS BEEN TWENTY FIVE YEARS SINCE HE'S DONE ANYTHING YOU LIKED.

Dude, you are so owned it isn't even funny. Why have you been torturing yourself FOR A QUARTER OF A CENTURY?

Please leave this site and never come back. Not for our sakes - FOR YOURS.

.

[Edited 5/21/13 7:48am]

thank you! Bart has a creepy addiction to Prince.

wonder505 said:

RodeoSchro said:

Prince has not made you happy since approximately 1988. That is 25 years ago. Here, let me type it so that you really understand:

PRINCE HAS NOT MADE YOU HAPPY IN TWENTY FIVE YEARS.

PRINCE HAS NOT MADE YOU HAPPY IN A QUARTER OF A CENTURY.

And yet you come here quite often, for no other reason than to degrade anything and everything Prince does.

IT HAS BEEN TWENTY FIVE YEARS SINCE HE'S DONE ANYTHING YOU LIKED.

Dude, you are so owned it isn't even funny. Why have you been torturing yourself FOR A QUARTER OF A CENTURY?

Please leave this site and never come back. Not for our sakes - FOR YOURS.

.

[Edited 5/21/13 7:48am]

thank you! Bart has a creepy addiction to Prince.

BartVanHemelen seems like a person who comes to this site with facts. He’s good at researching, he knows his stuff about Prince, and he’s NOT an ass kisser. It’s good he’s not afraid to post here even after years of uptight fans hating on him. Since someone compared me to him, I’d say he’s needed around here and I hope he doesn’t leave this site. I don’t agree “nobody gives a fuck about Prince” but I do agree with him that Prince is an oldies act and this is why Prince keeps incorporating the young ones. If Bart appears like he has “a toxic relationship” with Prince it’s not anything out of the ordinary. I think fans who get so offended and act like they love everything Prince does are “creepy”. I think they're part of #TeamPrince and I hope you guys are rewarded nicely for all the 'work' you do to help 'promote' Prince. It would be nice to actually love the new music Prince and Kobalt Music Group might release but since his people are already trying to promote his next female protégée, seen standing on stage holding a guitar, I doubt it will be interesting. I’m sure the young girl will look beautiful but I think it's safe to say we can expect more of the same being Executive produced by Prince.

If we get an album out if it i'll be happy enough. Anything else is an unexpected bonus.

Sassey said:

wonder505 said:

thank you! Bart has a creepy addiction to Prince.

BartVanHemelen seems like a person who comes to this site with facts. He’s good at researching, he knows his stuff about Prince, and he’s NOT an ass kisser. It’s good he’s not afraid to post here even after years of uptight fans hating on him. Since someone compared me to him, I’d say he’s needed around here and I hope he doesn’t leave this site. I don’t agree “nobody gives a fuck about Prince” but I do agree with him that Prince is an oldies act and this is why Prince keeps incorporating the young ones. If Bart appears like he has “a toxic relationship” with Prince it’s not anything out of the ordinary. I think fans who get so offended and act like they love everything Prince does are “creepy”. I think they're part of #TeamPrince and I hope you guys are rewarded nicely for all the 'work' you do to help 'promote' Prince. It would be nice to actually love the new music Prince and Kobalt Music Group might release but since his people are already trying to promote his next female protégée, seen standing on stage holding a guitar, I doubt it will be interesting. I’m sure the young girl will look beautiful but I think it's safe to say we can expect more of the same being Executive produced by Prince.

Like I said, you two should hook up.

wonder505 said:

RodeoSchro said:

Prince has not made you happy since approximately 1988. That is 25 years ago. Here, let me type it so that you really understand:

PRINCE HAS NOT MADE YOU HAPPY IN TWENTY FIVE YEARS.

PRINCE HAS NOT MADE YOU HAPPY IN A QUARTER OF A CENTURY.

And yet you come here quite often, for no other reason than to degrade anything and everything Prince does.

IT HAS BEEN TWENTY FIVE YEARS SINCE HE'S DONE ANYTHING YOU LIKED.

Dude, you are so owned it isn't even funny. Why have you been torturing yourself FOR A QUARTER OF A CENTURY?

Please leave this site and never come back. Not for our sakes - FOR YOURS.

.

[Edited 5/21/13 7:48am]

thank you! Bart has a creepy addiction to Prince.

It didn't hit me until I started typing that post that Bart has been disappointed by, and mad at, Prince for A QUARTER OF A CENTURY.

That just blew my mind. How can one guy hold a grudge so long? How can he spend ANY part of this time for 25 YEARS dogging on some artist that doesn't even know he's alive?

TWENTY. FIVE. YEARS.

LOL, just let it go Bart. Let it go.

jaawwnn said:

If we get an album out if it i'll be happy enough. Anything else is an unexpected bonus.

I don't want to jinx it but when I read this release, all I could think was "At last! The vault is about to be opened!"

databank said:

Javi said:

I hope so. In my case, I need it specially, since I almost don't use the internet to listen to music, and I'd be very glad to see Prince with a record company that releases physical albums which one can buy. Like in the good old days, indeed!

[Edited 5/20/13 23:50pm]

Well don't get too xcited: no one said all the releases had to be physical. By the way you know within 10 years physical records will have totally disappeared and the only way to purchase music will be digital, so you should go digital or you'll end-up stuck with pre-2015 music

Well, I've been listening to these kind of predictions for 10 or 15 years now, and they haven't fulfilled. I think physical record shops are in danger, which is sad enough, but not physical music.

Anyway, back on topic: given the quality of Prince's output nowadays, I don't mind losing some releases. If he publishes a new physical album, that's enough for me.

Sassey said:

wonder505 said:

thank you! Bart has a creepy addiction to Prince.

BartVanHemelen seems like a person who comes to this site with facts. He’s good at researching, he knows his stuff about Prince, and he’s NOT an ass kisser. It’s good he’s not afraid to post here even after years of uptight fans hating on him. Since someone compared me to him, I’d say he’s needed around here and I hope he doesn’t leave this site. I don’t agree “nobody gives a fuck about Prince” but I do agree with him that Prince is an oldies act and this is why Prince keeps incorporating the young ones. If Bart appears like he has “a toxic relationship” with Prince it’s not anything out of the ordinary. I think fans who get so offended and act like they love everything Prince does are “creepy”. I think they're part of #TeamPrince and I hope you guys are rewarded nicely for all the 'work' you do to help 'promote' Prince. It would be nice to actually love the new music Prince and Kobalt Music Group might release but since his people are already trying to promote his next female protégée, seen standing on stage holding a guitar, I doubt it will be interesting. I’m sure the young girl will look beautiful but I think it's safe to say we can expect more of the same being Executive produced by Prince.

both side of the coins are CREEPY. People who love everything that Prince does AND those who hate everything he does but CAN'T turn away. If my enemies spent so much time thinkin about me I'd be honored especially for twenty-five years.

Yes there's "TeamPrince" and there's also "Team I hate everything Prince does but i'm so obsessed with him that he owns my time and space" AND Team "I hate Prince cause I met and used to work with him and he dissed the shit out of me and I can't do anything about it so I release my anger on a public forum"

Bart is free to post here if he wants though. His opinions can be debatable on a discussion forum. I just think its funny because I've never seen anything like this.

wonder505 said:

Sassey said:

BartVanHemelen seems like a person who comes to this site with facts. He’s good at researching, he knows his stuff about Prince, and he’s NOT an ass kisser. It’s good he’s not afraid to post here even after years of uptight fans hating on him. Since someone compared me to him, I’d say he’s needed around here and I hope he doesn’t leave this site. I don’t agree “nobody gives a fuck about Prince” but I do agree with him that Prince is an oldies act and this is why Prince keeps incorporating the young ones. If Bart appears like he has “a toxic relationship” with Prince it’s not anything out of the ordinary. I think fans who get so offended and act like they love everything Prince does are “creepy”. I think they're part of #TeamPrince and I hope you guys are rewarded nicely for all the 'work' you do to help 'promote' Prince. It would be nice to actually love the new music Prince and Kobalt Music Group might release but since his people are already trying to promote his next female protégée, seen standing on stage holding a guitar, I doubt it will be interesting. I’m sure the young girl will look beautiful but I think it's safe to say we can expect more of the same being Executive produced by Prince.

both side of the coins are CREEPY. People who love everything that Prince does AND those who hate everything he does but CAN'T turn away. If my enemies spent so much time thinkin about me I'd be honored especially for twenty-five years.

Yes there's "TeamPrince" and there's also "Team I hate everything Prince does but i'm so obsessed with him that he owns my time and space" AND Team "I hate Prince cause I met and used to work with him and he dissed the shit out of me and I can't do anything about it so I release my anger on a public forum"

Bart is free to post here if he wants though. His opinions can be debatable on a discussion forum. I just think its funny because I've never seen anything like this.

But Bart doesn't have opinions, he has a vendetta.

Two entirely different things.

RodeoSchro said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Pur-lease. They had to GIVE AWAY TICKETS.

Prince has not made you happy since approximately 1988. That is 25 years ago. Here, let me type it so that you really understand:

PRINCE HAS NOT MADE YOU HAPPY IN TWENTY FIVE YEARS.

PRINCE HAS NOT MADE YOU HAPPY IN A QUARTER OF A CENTURY.

And yet you come here quite often, for no other reason than to degrade anything and everything Prince does.

IT HAS BEEN TWENTY FIVE YEARS SINCE HE'S DONE ANYTHING YOU LIKED.

Dude, you are so owned it isn't even funny. Why have you been torturing yourself FOR A QUARTER OF A CENTURY?

Please leave this site and never come back. Not for our sakes - FOR YOURS.

.

[Edited 5/21/13 7:48am]

Make that 1995, not 1988.

At least Bart ALWAYS gets his facts straight. I still think he brings a lot of balance to this forum.

KoolEaze said:

RodeoSchro said:

Prince has not made you happy since approximately 1988. That is 25 years ago. Here, let me type it so that you really understand:

PRINCE HAS NOT MADE YOU HAPPY IN TWENTY FIVE YEARS.

PRINCE HAS NOT MADE YOU HAPPY IN A QUARTER OF A CENTURY.

And yet you come here quite often, for no other reason than to degrade anything and everything Prince does.

IT HAS BEEN TWENTY FIVE YEARS SINCE HE'S DONE ANYTHING YOU LIKED.

Dude, you are so owned it isn't even funny. Why have you been torturing yourself FOR A QUARTER OF A CENTURY?

Please leave this site and never come back. Not for our sakes - FOR YOURS.

.

[Edited 5/21/13 7:48am]

Make that 1995, not 1988.

At least Bart ALWAYS gets his facts straight. I still think he brings a lot of balance to this forum.

Well, since this fact is something only Bart can really clear up--

HEY BART!!!!

What was the last time you really liked something Prince did?

Let's see what he says.

KoolEaze said:

RodeoSchro said:

Prince has not made you happy since approximately 1988. That is 25 years ago. Here, let me type it so that you really understand:

PRINCE HAS NOT MADE YOU HAPPY IN TWENTY FIVE YEARS.

PRINCE HAS NOT MADE YOU HAPPY IN A QUARTER OF A CENTURY.

And yet you come here quite often, for no other reason than to degrade anything and everything Prince does.

IT HAS BEEN TWENTY FIVE YEARS SINCE HE'S DONE ANYTHING YOU LIKED.

Dude, you are so owned it isn't even funny. Why have you been torturing yourself FOR A QUARTER OF A CENTURY?

Please leave this site and never come back. Not for our sakes - FOR YOURS.

.

[Edited 5/21/13 7:48am]

Make that 1995, not 1988.

At least Bart ALWAYS gets his facts straight. I still think he brings a lot of balance to this forum.

While we wait for his response, even if it's 1995, that's 18 years. So, here in the U.S., that makes his disappointment with Prince's work old enough to vote. That still seems long enough.

[Edited 5/21/13 20:20pm]

Oh leave the guy alone! People have a right to their opinions, and YES, even when it concerns Prince!

Javi said:

databank said:

Well don't get too xcited: no one said all the releases had to be physical. By the way you know within 10 years physical records will have totally disappeared and the only way to purchase music will be digital, so you should go digital or you'll end-up stuck with pre-2015 music

Well, I've been listening to these kind of predictions for 10 or 15 years now, and they haven't fulfilled. I think physical record shops are in danger, which is sad enough, but not physical music.

Anyway, back on topic: given the quality of Prince's output nowadays, I don't mind losing some releases. If he publishes a new physical album, that's enough for me.

Oh but they HAVE fulfilled, they're fulfilling at this very moment!

I don't know in the US but fact is that in France record stores are indeed disappearing very quickly, and the records stacks in the stores that sell other things such as books, games and movies are shrinking every year. Also more and more independent acts release their products in digital shape only, because it reduces the costs.

But the most interesting fact is that ALL my friends, and I mean ALL of them and I know a greal deal of people, mostly people aged 25 to 40, switched to digital. U give 'em a CD and the first thing they'll do is to rip it in the computer because the computer is their "player" (they don't even have a CD player anymore outside of the comp's one). How does CD survive in this? It doesn't just because it's not handy. it's just easier to play a file on a computer that's switched on 24/7 than to grab a CD and put it into a player then take it out and put it back in its box and grab another CD and so on: what a HASSLE! Now u can even have ur mobile phone with the music inside connect automatically, wireless, with ur car's music player and launch a song the minute u start the car

As for compression the fast evolution of drive space and download speed will soon make Flac or similar formats replace compressed formats so quality differences won't be an issue.

Last year, for the first time, digital sales in the US were more important than physical sales, and these figures will keep evolving every year to the advantage of digital (it just have been the case for the last 10 years so why would it stop?). Music is a business, what sells is what survives, what doesn't sell dies.

Look around u, if u hang out with people who r less than 45 who still uses CD's? And when they stop selling who's gonna manufacture them? It's like people who couldn't believe CD were gonna replace LP's and cassettes. They did. It's a mere fact of life: technology always wins.

The same is happening with movies: video-renting stores have almost all disappreaded in France and more and more people switch to digital and once again as soon as the compression/download speed question is settled people don't care anymore about having DVD's or Blu-rays and just plug the comp to the big TV screen. The funny thing is that none of my friends believe that physical records or movies have a future but many still can't believe that BOOKS will disappear because book is such a sacred objets and it wasn't possible to enjoy books and comics on a traditional compiter the way we could enjoy music and movies. But now that we got i-Pads and all these other readers believe me they will just as well because once again it's cheaper and more handy. It tends to be a human reflex to stick to what is familiar, to believe that "this can't happen" just because "this" is new and was unthinkable of 20 years earlier, but look at how our lives evolved in the last 50 years: our lifestyle has so very little in common with our grandparents'...

So give or take a few years my bet is:

- By 2020 most record companies will have stopped manufacturing CD's, save a few prestigious, expensive collectors editions.

- By 2025 most studios will have stopped manufacturing DVD's and Blu-Rays, save a few prestigious collectors boxsets.

- By 2035 at most (it will take more time) publishers will have given-up manufacturing paper books, once again save the few pricey deluxe collectors editions.

The future of cultural data is digital. Fact of life. Even the future of the human body is all technology with these nanomechanics things being close to be all over our bodies

Star Trek is at your door, man, and it's GREAT NEWS

the way this press release is worded gives me a bit of hope that there will first

be a "3rd eye girl" album (which according to previous reporst prince will only

be singing on 2 songs) and then a decent prince album later this year, perhaps

in the fall.

at the end of the day, i just want a new "prince" album. if we get that this year

i'll be happy.

databank said:

Javi said:

Well, I've been listening to these kind of predictions for 10 or 15 years now, and they haven't fulfilled. I think physical record shops are in danger, which is sad enough, but not physical music.

Anyway, back on topic: given the quality of Prince's output nowadays, I don't mind losing some releases. If he publishes a new physical album, that's enough for me.

Oh but they HAVE fulfilled, they're fulfilling at this very moment!

I don't know in the US but fact is that in France record stores are indeed disappearing very quickly, and the records stacks in the stores that sell other things such as books, games and movies are shrinking every year. Also more and more independent acts release their products in digital shape only, because it reduces the costs.

But the most interesting fact is that ALL my friends, and I mean ALL of them and I know a greal deal of people, mostly people aged 25 to 40, switched to digital. U give 'em a CD and the first thing they'll do is to rip it in the computer because the computer is their "player" (they don't even have a CD player anymore outside of the comp's one). How does CD survive in this? It doesn't just because it's not handy. it's just easier to play a file on a computer that's switched on 24/7 than to grab a CD and put it into a player then take it out and put it back in its box and grab another CD and so on: what a HASSLE! Now u can even have ur mobile phone with the music inside connect automatically, wireless, with ur car's music player and launch a song the minute u start the car

As for compression the fast evolution of drive space and download speed will soon make Flac or similar formats replace compressed formats so quality differences won't be an issue.

Last year, for the first time, digital sales in the US were more important than physical sales, and these figures will keep evolving every year to the advantage of digital (it just have been the case for the last 10 years so why would it stop?). Music is a business, what sells is what survives, what doesn't sell dies.

Look around u, if u hang out with people who r less than 45 who still uses CD's? And when they stop selling who's gonna manufacture them? It's like people who couldn't believe CD were gonna replace LP's and cassettes. They did. It's a mere fact of life: technology always wins.

The same is happening with movies: video-renting stores have almost all disappreaded in France and more and more people switch to digital and once again as soon as the compression/download speed question is settled people don't care anymore about having DVD's or Blu-rays and just plug the comp to the big TV screen. The funny thing is that none of my friends believe that physical records or movies have a future but many still can't believe that BOOKS will disappear because book is such a sacred objets and it wasn't possible to enjoy books and comics on a traditional compiter the way we could enjoy music and movies. But now that we got i-Pads and all these other readers believe me they will just as well because once again it's cheaper and more handy. It tends to be a human reflex to stick to what is familiar, to believe that "this can't happen" just because "this" is new and was unthinkable of 20 years earlier, but look at how our lives evolved in the last 50 years: our lifestyle has so very little in common with our grandparents'...

So give or take a few years my bet is:

- By 2020 most record companies will have stopped manufacturing CD's, save a few prestigious, expensive collectors editions.

- By 2025 most studios will have stopped manufacturing DVD's and Blu-Rays, save a few prestigious collectors boxsets.

- By 2035 at most (it will take more time) publishers will have given-up manufacturing paper books, once again save the few pricey deluxe collectors editions.

The future of cultural data is digital. Fact of life. Even the future of the human body is all technology with these nanomechanics things being close to be all over our bodies

Star Trek is at your door, man, and it's GREAT NEWS

I think we're going to derail the thread if we continue this debate. Also, I see this issue in exactly the opposite way. I don't agree with even the smallest detail of your comment, so no point in continuing the discussion.

As far as predictions go, I don't think many people would have predicted the recent vinyl revival, a return of something so far away from recent technological developements. It seems that I'm not alone in valuing well crafted cultural items as opposed to digital files.

Anyway, let's go back to the new Prince contract!!!

oh bless..here we go again. Some on here have very, very short memories!. Come on, remember the 777 projet or whatever it was..promises of this and that blah and ooohh look it fucked up!. Just remember this 'freedom he has craved' has been with him for years now, he cannot blame anyone but himslef if he has chosen not to take advantage of it or fuck it up. He's the boss so the buck stops with him.

Prediction:

1 3rd eye girl album release, limited physical distribution. Video released for Fix your life up, little rotation on video channels or radio [because it's shit!]. Album will be available digitally via the 3rd eye girl website in shit quality rather than a lossless format. Album will flop across Europe but will likely hit top 10 in the US for a short amount of time.

P will declare the project a success based on dodgy LOL concert ticket sales and the fact that the 'art' was created and released!. P will then lose interest very quickly as he...

..moves to his latest 'cock project' i.e. the guitar holders robot CD.

2] Release of said 'cock project' CD - refer to Andy Allos project to see how this one pans out!.

3] The people at Kobalt will be sitting around on New Years eve reflecting on what a weird year that was..'hey we worked with Prince..but it didn't turn out as planned! and we're broke ..and he owes us $$..and how come he did deliver the promo stuff he said he would....wow we were expecting Purple Rain 2 but got Disney rock....'

You know where this is heading..have your coffee..wake up..and get off the train as this journey is all too familiar!!

journey said:

Oh leave the guy alone! People have a right to their opinions, and YES, even when it concerns Prince!

I agree 100% that people have a right to their opinions, and that includes me, too. I've listened to Bart whine for at least 18 years, but maybe as long as 25 years. That's probably longer than you are old. Think about that - I, and the others that have been on Prince websites since the Internet came around, have been listening to Bart whine for the entirety of your life.

Imagine this:

You come out of the womb - the first words you hear are Bart whining about Prince.

You learn how to talk - you are still hearing Bart whine about Prince.

You start grade school - you are still hearing Bart whine about Prince.

You start Little League, and hit your first home run - you are still hearing Bart whine about Prince.

You graduate from grade school and begin junior high - you are still hearing Bart whine about Prince.

You go to your first dance - you are still hearing Bart whine about Prince.

You begin high school - you are still hearing Bart whine about Prince.

You go on your first date - you are still hearing Bart whine about Prince.

You get your drivers license - you are still hearing Bart whine about Prince.

You graduate from high school - you are still hearing Bart whine about Prince.

You go off to college - you are still hearing Bart whine about Prince.

You pledge a fraternity/sorority - you are still hearing Bart whine about Prince.

You graduate from college - you are still hearing Bart whine about Prince.

You get into grad school - you are still hearing Bart whine about Prince.

You get your MBA - you are still hearing Bart whine about Prince.

You get your first job - you are still hearing Bart whine about Prince.

Trust me, if there was an IGNORE feature on this website, I'd use it. And I have CERTAINLY asked for one many times.

The man has been whining about Prince for longer than many people here have been alive. I'm sick of it. He doesn't have "opinions".

He has a grudge. He has a vendetta.

I honestly don't care if he's justified in his vendetta or not. I just want him to take it off this website. Nowhere in the description of this site is the purpose defined as "A place for people with vendettas to carry them out".

So there is an opinion for you.

Sassey said:

wonder505 said:

thank you! Bart has a creepy addiction to Prince.

BartVanHemelen seems like a person who comes to this site with facts. He’s good at researching, he knows his stuff about Prince, and he’s NOT an ass kisser. It’s good he’s not afraid to post here even after years of uptight fans hating on him. Since someone compared me to him, I’d say he’s needed around here and I hope he doesn’t leave this site. I don’t agree “nobody gives a fuck about Prince” but I do agree with him that Prince is an oldies act and this is why Prince keeps incorporating the young ones. If Bart appears like he has “a toxic relationship” with Prince it’s not anything out of the ordinary. I think fans who get so offended and act like they love everything Prince does are “creepy”. I think they're part of #TeamPrince and I hope you guys are rewarded nicely for all the 'work' you do to help 'promote' Prince. It would be nice to actually love the new music Prince and Kobalt Music Group might release but since his people are already trying to promote his next female protégée, seen standing on stage holding a guitar, I doubt it will be interesting. I’m sure the young girl will look beautiful but I think it's safe to say we can expect more of the same being Executive produced by Prince.

Actually, I second that. Bart most definitely has a place here, and he's a veteran of the Org.

I get what others are saying, but I'll bet that Bart has actually liked some of Prince's more recent stuff. I'm betting he likes at least some of the 'Lotusflow3r' album, likes some of what Prince is doing now, and probably really enjoyed the Jimmy Fallon performance of 'Screwdriver' and 'Bambi'...

Bart is indeed full of criticism most of the time, but he's not the only critical ORGer, and I think he provides balance with his particular brand of criticism.

~G

Sheesh, could we like stop talking about Bart? This thread is not about him, please quit making it so.
That is annoying.


The topic is Prince has a new label. It seems to be artist friendly, but the question is how label friendly Prince is these days, what he wants to do with it and how much he is willing to invest in it. As usual, real information is scarce. All that is really being said is that Prince wants to use it release his own stuff and stuff he produces for others. Ok, but like what kind of stuff and when? What about just saying what, where, when and how instead of just claiming that Prince is going to "release a slate of new music". And what about "old" music? What about making his independent stuff decently available, what about For You?


These kind of press releases are also annoying.

[Edited 5/22/13 7:18am]

Giovanni777 said:

Sassey said:

BartVanHemelen seems like a person who comes to this site with facts. He’s good at researching, he knows his stuff about Prince, and he’s NOT an ass kisser. It’s good he’s not afraid to post here even after years of uptight fans hating on him. Since someone compared me to him, I’d say he’s needed around here and I hope he doesn’t leave this site. I don’t agree “nobody gives a fuck about Prince” but I do agree with him that Prince is an oldies act and this is why Prince keeps incorporating the young ones. If Bart appears like he has “a toxic relationship” with Prince it’s not anything out of the ordinary. I think fans who get so offended and act like they love everything Prince does are “creepy”. I think they're part of #TeamPrince and I hope you guys are rewarded nicely for all the 'work' you do to help 'promote' Prince. It would be nice to actually love the new music Prince and Kobalt Music Group might release but since his people are already trying to promote his next female protégée, seen standing on stage holding a guitar, I doubt it will be interesting. I’m sure the young girl will look beautiful but I think it's safe to say we can expect more of the same being Executive produced by Prince.

Actually, I second that. Bart most definitely has a place here, and he's a veteran of the Org.

I get what others are saying, but I'll bet that Bart has actually liked some of Prince's more recent stuff. I'm betting he likes at least some of the 'Lotusflow3r' album, likes some of what Prince is doing now, and probably really enjoyed the Jimmy Fallon performance of 'Screwdriver' and 'Bambi'...

Bart is indeed full of criticism most of the time, but he's not the only critical ORGer, and I think he provides balance with his particular brand of criticism.

~G

I *sincerely* hope he answers EddieC's question and tells us the last thing Prince released that he liked.

Assuming he will, shall we make a little side bet as to what year said approved release was made?

Giovanni777 said:

Sassey said:

BartVanHemelen seems like a person who comes to this site with facts. He’s good at researching, he knows his stuff about Prince, and he’s NOT an ass kisser. It’s good he’s not afraid to post here even after years of uptight fans hating on him. Since someone compared me to him, I’d say he’s needed around here and I hope he doesn’t leave this site. I don’t agree “nobody gives a fuck about Prince” but I do agree with him that Prince is an oldies act and this is why Prince keeps incorporating the young ones. If Bart appears like he has “a toxic relationship” with Prince it’s not anything out of the ordinary. I think fans who get so offended and act like they love everything Prince does are “creepy”. I think they're part of #TeamPrince and I hope you guys are rewarded nicely for all the 'work' you do to help 'promote' Prince. It would be nice to actually love the new music Prince and Kobalt Music Group might release but since his people are already trying to promote his next female protégée, seen standing on stage holding a guitar, I doubt it will be interesting. I’m sure the young girl will look beautiful but I think it's safe to say we can expect more of the same being Executive produced by Prince.

Actually, I second that. Bart most definitely has a place here, and he's a veteran of the Org.

I get what others are saying, but I'll bet that Bart has actually liked some of Prince's more recent stuff. I'm betting he likes at least some of the 'Lotusflow3r' album, likes some of what Prince is doing now, and probably really enjoyed the Jimmy Fallon performance of 'Screwdriver' and 'Bambi'...

Bart is indeed full of criticism most of the time, but he's not the only critical ORGer, and I think he provides balance with his particular brand of criticism.

~G

there has been a few times where Bart's comments were pulled for being offensive and he's been questioned many times on his "facts" and when he cannot answer he dissappears. Balance is always good and it creates a good debate, he is definately welcomed here. but for someone to complain about someone for 18-25 years is not normal. I know define normal, but just think of it as someone you know who complains about the same person for so long. you would most likely tell that person, "Enough!" I view it as creepy. Oh well. Just my opionion. Back to the topic at hand.

RodeoSchro said:

journey said:

Oh leave the guy alone! People have a right to their opinions, and YES, even when it concerns Prince!

I agree 100% that people have a right to their opinions, and that includes me, too. I've listened to Bart whine for at least 18 years, but maybe as long as 25 years. That's probably longer than you are old. Think about that - I, and the others that have been on Prince websites since the Internet came around, have been listening to Bart whine for the entirety of your life.

Imagine this:

You come out of the womb - the first words you hear are Bart whining about Prince.

You learn how to talk - you are still hearing Bart whine about Prince.

You start grade school - you are still hearing Bart whine about Prince.

You start Little League, and hit your first home run - you are still hearing Bart whine about Prince.

You graduate from grade school and begin junior high - you are still hearing Bart whine about Prince.

You go to your first dance - you are still hearing Bart whine about Prince.

You begin high school - you are still hearing Bart whine about Prince.

You go on your first date - you are still hearing Bart whine about Prince.

You get your drivers license - you are still hearing Bart whine about Prince.

You graduate from high school - you are still hearing Bart whine about Prince.

You go off to college - you are still hearing Bart whine about Prince.

You pledge a fraternity/sorority - you are still hearing Bart whine about Prince.

You graduate from college - you are still hearing Bart whine about Prince.

You get into grad school - you are still hearing Bart whine about Prince.

You get your MBA - you are still hearing Bart whine about Prince.

You get your first job - you are still hearing Bart whine about Prince.

Trust me, if there was an IGNORE feature on this website, I'd use it. And I have CERTAINLY asked for one many times.

The man has been whining about Prince for longer than many people here have been alive. I'm sick of it. He doesn't have "opinions".

He has a grudge. He has a vendetta.

I honestly don't care if he's justified in his vendetta or not. I just want him to take it off this website. Nowhere in the description of this site is the purpose defined as "A place for people with vendettas to carry them out".

So there is an opinion for you.

You know, there's an easy solution to your problem with Bart......if you don't like his whining, then just don't read his posts! No one's forcing you to read his posts if they bug you so much. Just ignore them, because I don't know if you're aware of this, but your whining about Bart's post is just as annoying as you consider his whining about Prince.

Giovanni777 said:

Sassey said:

BartVanHemelen seems like a person who comes to this site with facts. He’s good at researching, he knows his stuff about Prince, and he’s NOT an ass kisser. It’s good he’s not afraid to post here even after years of uptight fans hating on him. Since someone compared me to him, I’d say he’s needed around here and I hope he doesn’t leave this site. I don’t agree “nobody gives a fuck about Prince” but I do agree with him that Prince is an oldies act and this is why Prince keeps incorporating the young ones. If Bart appears like he has “a toxic relationship” with Prince it’s not anything out of the ordinary. I think fans who get so offended and act like they love everything Prince does are “creepy”. I think they're part of #TeamPrince and I hope you guys are rewarded nicely for all the 'work' you do to help 'promote' Prince. It would be nice to actually love the new music Prince and Kobalt Music Group might release but since his people are already trying to promote his next female protégée, seen standing on stage holding a guitar, I doubt it will be interesting. I’m sure the young girl will look beautiful but I think it's safe to say we can expect more of the same being Executive produced by Prince.

Actually, I second that. Bart most definitely has a place here, and he's a veteran of the Org.

I get what others are saying, but I'll bet that Bart has actually liked some of Prince's more recent stuff. I'm betting he likes at least some of the 'Lotusflow3r' album, likes some of what Prince is doing now, and probably really enjoyed the Jimmy Fallon performance of 'Screwdriver' and 'Bambi'...

Bart is indeed full of criticism most of the time, but he's not the only critical ORGer, and I think he provides balance with his particular brand of criticism.

~G

agreed...without people like Bart this site would be a very creepy,cult like place....hmmm a bit like NPG Music club used to be!! Bart rarely calls it wrong, too harsh sometimes BUT tells it like it is.

funkyhead said: