Why the pathological need to "turn" people? If they don't like Prince, move on.

Genesia said:

Why the pathological need to "turn" people? If they don't like Prince, move on.

As a dj, as a musician, and the analytic person as I am I find it interesting to analyze the psychological aspect of why people like or dislike stuff. I love seing stuff from a sosiopsychological viewpoint. I'm pretty damn sure Prince was very much aware of some of the desicions he made. What kind of reactions he would meet etc. Think about it, he has always been good at both reaching new listeners as well as alienating old fans. His african american fanbase back in the days usually prefered his rnb/funk-style and love The Time when he was doing Purple Rain. Purple Rain gave him alot of new fans, but still many of his rnbfans took a right when he took a left. Even more so did he loose fans with ATWIAD.

It's not my mission to convert people. I'm not religious, even when talking Prince. Actually, I'm pretty damn aware of what I don't love with his music. I just happen to find his music so wide, that it is quite possible that one person might hate some of his music, let love another part.

I will post a list of tracks soon myself.

I'd tend to go the complete opposite method and give them full on multisensory genderfuck black drag queen overload and see if it breaks their tiny minds.

Chile, that's like asking for a melodic Ministry album post year 2000.

NouveauDance said:

I'd tend to go the complete opposite method and give them full on multisensory genderfuck black drag queen overload and see if it breaks their tiny minds.

Love your method . I live in the cold "white" north called Norway. The country of black metal, folk music and country also loves rock, jazz and classical music, while rnb/funk/soul is quite popular in urban areas if it's either "masculine" enough, or predictable in a "yeah-its-feminine-but-we're-not-aware-of-it" kinda way. Personally I think bands and artists such as Aha sounds way more feminine. Prince music often has a very masculine "predator" kinda undertone, and sometimes a bit sexually agressive. It is of course covered with vulnurable and feminine sensuality.

Just to simplify what I'm asking you... what songs put his masculine undertones more forefront and in your face?

Peach is a good example of more "masculine" wrapping atleast. And Purple Rain was overall pretty damn masculine if just listening to the music, not watching the visuas, and with way less use of falsetto. Sexy MF also a macho beast.

I Like It There

Replica said:

As a dj, as a musician, and the analytic person as I am I find it interesting to analyze the psychological aspect of why people like or dislike stuff. I love seing stuff from a sosiopsychological viewpoint.

Do you talk like this in real life?

Marrk said:

Replica said:

As a dj, as a musician, and the analytic person as I am I find it interesting to analyze the psychological aspect of why people like or dislike stuff. I love seing stuff from a sosiopsychological viewpoint.

Do you talk like this in real life?

No. Do you expect me to write as if I was having a normal conversation with someone I know that isn't interested in nerdy details about Prince music? I can see how it looks a bit over the top, . But I was just trying to put in perspective what I was thinking. I also believe I'm speaking through the internet. Normally I speak Norwegian, so no, this is not how I talk in real life . It does make sense now doesn't it? In the United States, does people expect every foreigner to speak english fluently? I don't. I don't even live there. My home country is Norway. So when I write, it might seem forced to someone. But to me it's naivity and clumsyness combined with struggling to get a sentence right. I write fast enough, and thoughts are usually not modified, but the natural flow is probably not sounding improvised enough as I actually have to think a bit more about how I put together sentences, while you probably spit ink on paper and digital letters on the computer screen.

Try some stuff he sings in a lower register - most of Purple Rain, Lotus Flower, C&D, Habibi...

Replica said:

Marrk said:

Do you talk like this in real life?

No. Do you expect me to write as if I was having a normal conversation with someone I know that isn't interested in nerdy details about Prince music? I can see how it looks a bit over the top, . But I was just trying to put in perspective what I was thinking. I also believe I'm speaking through the internet. Normally I speak Norwegian, so no, this is not how I talk in real life . It does make sense now doesn't it? In the United States, does people expect every foreigner to speak english fluently? I don't. I don't even live there. My home country is Norway. So when I write, it might seem forced to someone. But to me it's naivity and clumsyness combined with struggling to get a sentence right. I write fast enough, and thoughts are usually not modified, but the natural flow is probably not sounding improvised enough as I actually have to think a bit more about how I put together sentences, while you probably spit ink on paper and digital letters on the computer screen.

Your English is better than my English and I'm English!

Now i feel kind of bad asking. Damn.

When Doves Cry

Peach

Sign O' the Times

Purple Rain

Darling Niki

Let's Go Crazy

Irresistible Bitch

Colonized Mind

Had U

Slave

DMSR

Pop Life

Girls and Boys

When Will We B Paid?

Gett Off

Thunder

Sexy MF

7

Come

Papa

Le Grind

Bob George

Dead On It

Rockhard in a Funky Place

Dolphin

Now

Chaos and Disorder

Joint 2 Joint

Crystal Ball

Cloreen Baconskin

Don't Play Me

What's My Name

Acknowlege Me

Days of Wild (Studio Version)

Old Friends Sale

The Greatest Romance Ever Sold

Family Name

Erotic City

Illusion, Coma, Pimp & Circumstance

3121

Guitar

The One U Wanna C

Compassion

Beginning Endlessly

ufoclub said:

trax said:

What's the days of wild studio version on? I missed thatb one. I Have the live one on crystal ball ufoclub said:

That's the only bootleg track I put on there, I think. But he sounds very masculine on it. Laid back and masculine.

Masculine Prince? Honey, that bitch ain't got a masculine bone in his body. Even when he tries to butch it up, it looks fake like a queen going down to the local prison and trying to work the rough trade through the fence.

vainandy said:

Masculine Prince? Honey, that bitch ain't got a masculine bone in his body. Even when he tries to butch it up, it looks fake like a queen going down to the local prison and trying to work the rough trade through the fence.

Pope

Acnowledge Me

Days Of Wild

Choclate Box

Face Down

I Like It There

Peach

How Wit U

Baby Knows

Circle Of Amore

I Could Never Take The Place Of Ur Man

Erotic City

Beautiful Strange

Bob George

Nothing Compares 2 u

U Make My Sunshine

I Rock, Therefore I Am

Dig U Better Dead

Play In The Sunshine

Housequake

Money Dont Matter 2nite

Come On (Late Nite Mix) "gt the butter 4 yo muffin!"

Pussy Control

Poom Poom

Crystal Ball

Escape Free Yo Mind

The Love We Make

One Of Us

Call My Name

Purple Rain

The One

Another Lonely Christmas......................and so many more.......ya get the point

Thanks for good examples!

If I had to strip down to 10 good songs that show more of his "masculine" side, then it could be something like this...

Musicology
Sexy MF

Money Don't Matter Tonight

5 Women

Peach

Old Friends 4 Sale

7

Joy In Repetiton

There is Lonely

I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man

The Love We Make

I would throw in:

Fury
In this bed I scream

Somebody's Somebody

Dreamer

Colonized Mind

The Ride

Let it Go

We Can Funk

Computer Blue

and... If I was Your Girlfriend

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