V10LETBLUES said:

Soulstar77A said:

Woah! Bullshit! Have you ever listened to the Young Americans album? I dont think so... w

Exactly. Fame was released in 1975 and is funkier than most of Prince's work from the last 20 years.

Match that.

paisleypark4 said:

V10LETBLUES said:

Exactly. Fame was released in 1975 and is funkier than most of Prince's work from the last 20 years.

You know you need to stop with that mess

Honestly, Prince will ALWAYS be my favourite artist but I really can't recall a truly funky ass song by him in the last 20 years. Live, yes, there's some funk but in the studio......i don't really recall something that I can say "OK that's funky as all hell"

Ok except maybe 1+1+1=3 and The Work but that's it really.

paisleypark4 said:

V10LETBLUES said:

Exactly. Fame was released in 1975 and is funkier than most of Prince's work from the last 20 years.

You know you need to stop with that mess

To each his own. But be careful, if you are still wondering, those marks on your ass are from Funk bitting you. Now you know.

[Edited 1/9/13 13:11pm]

V10LETBLUES said:

Bowie's music has always been relatively sophisticated, mature and intelligent for pop standards. His audience expects that. That has helped with his long term career success. Because as his audience aged and grew, they could still enjoy his new music without feeling silly. He never crossed the "Chocolate Box" threshold.

Prince, on the other hand has had trouble keeping his older fans becasue of "Chocolate Boxes."
Going the opposite direction of a Bowie or U2, or Springsteen. Pandering woefully unsophisticated music for what he thinks "today's kids" would like. And badly under-estimating them through and through. Turning off new listeners, old ones, and in some ways marginalizing his legacy.

[Edited 1/9/13 12:16pm]

OR, like a true artist, he doesn't give a #@$k about what ppl think he should be doing at a certain age. You ever heard the idea of being young at heart? I'm glad he can make a Colonized Mind AND a No More Candy for U at 50! the mature stuff gets panned on here regularly by so called mature fans. SHOE, Better With Time and Here were on the same album as Chocolate Box. These are mature, classy ballads/songs, then there's stuff like Reflections and Lion of Judah, but because they aren't comteplating Germany pre/post Berlin wall, they don't count or if they have references to where he is spiritually, its "off putting", brainwashing, etc. Dude can't win for losing with his own so called 'fans'.

I admit I don't have or haven't heard Bowie's so called funky or ground breaking stuff so the comparison is N/A for me, but that song and video was the first thing i've listened to from him since the ubiquity of the Let's Dance album on MTV (i did try the Station to Station single and felt like jagged knives were being jabbed down my ears...) and it severely underwhelmed. I love contemplative songs but it did nothing for me

V10LETBLUES said:

Soulstar77A said:

Woah! Bullshit! Have you ever listened to the Young Americans album? I dont think so... w

Exactly. Fame was released in 1975 and is funkier than most of Prince's work from the last 20 years.

..................................

datdude said:

V10LETBLUES said:

Bowie's music has always been relatively sophisticated, mature and intelligent for pop standards. His audience expects that. That has helped with his long term career success. Because as his audience aged and grew, they could still enjoy his new music without feeling silly. He never crossed the "Chocolate Box" threshold.

Prince, on the other hand has had trouble keeping his older fans becasue of "Chocolate Boxes."
Going the opposite direction of a Bowie or U2, or Springsteen. Pandering woefully unsophisticated music for what he thinks "today's kids" would like. And badly under-estimating them through and through. Turning off new listeners, old ones, and in some ways marginalizing his legacy.

[Edited 1/9/13 12:16pm]

OR, like a true artist, he doesn't give a #@$k about what ppl think he should be doing at a certain age. You ever heard the idea of being young at heart? I'm glad he can make a Colonized Mind AND a No More Candy for U at 50! the mature stuff gets panned on here regularly by so called mature fans. SHOE, Better With Time and Here were on the same album as Chocolate Box. These are mature, classy ballads/songs, then there's stuff like Reflections and Lion of Judah, but because they aren't comteplating Germany pre/post Berlin wall, they don't count or if they have references to where he is spiritually, its "off putting", brainwashing, etc. Dude can't win for losing with his own so called 'fans'.

I admit I don't have or haven't heard Bowie's so called funky or ground breaking stuff so the comparison is N/A for me, but that song and video was the first thing i've listened to from him since the ubiquity of the Let's Dance album on MTV (i did try the Station to Station single and felt like jagged knives were being jabbed down my ears...) and it severely underwhelmed. I love contemplative songs but it did nothing for me

I can agree with a lot of what you say here. I love Lotusflow3r, (single album) I have said it many times. I love Colonized Mind, Dreamer and Back To The Lotus. And I agree that the mature stuff like the incredible SHOE, gets panned by the org regulars. That's cool too. I don't want to make too much out of it, but let's not marginalize the Bowie either.

V10LETBLUES said:

paisleypark4 said:

You know you need to stop with that mess

To each his own. But be careful, if you are still wondering, those marks on your ass from Funk bitting you. Now you know.

Well I'm at work and cant hear it (trust me I will) However I doublt its going to trump over my Sticky Like Glue, Dance 4 Me, Black Sweat, Lolita, 319, Billy Jack Bitch, Sexy MF...

However..comparing a 1975 track to anything 1992 and up is odd and out of place in the first.

paisleypark4 said:

V10LETBLUES said:

To each his own. But be careful, if you are still wondering, those marks on your ass from Funk bitting you. Now you know.

Well I'm at work and cant hear it (trust me I will) However I doublt its going to trump over my Sticky Like Glue, Dance 4 Me, Black Sweat, Lolita, 319, Billy Jack Bitch, Sexy MF...

However..comparing a 1975 track to anything 1992 and up is odd and out of place in the first.

Yes, a 1975 track wipes the floor with the kindergarten funk listed above.

..shit, freaking Christian Agulilara, Justin Timberlake, Britney Spears, Justin Bieber and the rest of the Mickey Mouse Club have trumped those so-called examples of funk listed above.

But like I said, to each his/her own. It's all good. Enjoy what you like. That's all that matters.

if some of you guys think Prince was not influenced by Bowie when it comes to ballads, synth music or general experimentation, then you're biased

lagantest said:

the new bowie song is class.

Its a 66 year old man, in a sad contemplative mood and singing in a frail fragile voice. It is totally beautiful. It is classy. I feel that Prince although i am possibly his biggest fan, i think sometimes trying to still act too young with his music is drowning him slightly. I would love to hear some gorgeous adult songs from him, meaningful, deep. But again its a matter of opinion. Bowie i found very hard to get into now i am into him i am stuck. He is so clever and so amazing, and thought provoking. I am pleased it at the top of the charts and leap frogged over the usual shite that clogs it up. Some real talent shining through.

Yes, you've hit the nail on the head, if he released a song as mature, deep and heartfelt and used decent publicity he would be all over the news and could have a bit hit again..................

I'm not even a Bowie fan but I was highly impressed by the song and the way he's done it. The weirdness of the video adds to it, Prince should play up to his perceived weirdness too....

[Edited 1/9/13 14:53pm]

paisleypark4 said:

Well I'm at work and cant hear it (trust me I will) However I doublt its going to trump over my Sticky Like Glue, Dance 4 Me, Black Sweat, Lolita, 319, Billy Jack Bitch, Sexy MF...

However..comparing a 1975 track to anything 1992 and up is odd and out of place in the first.

319 is considered as funk now?

This is the reception Prince should be getting.

http://edition.cnn.com/20...?hpt=hp_c2

But no instead we get these silly mystery websites and fake C&D letters and all this cloak and dagger.

[Edited 1/9/13 19:04pm]

V10LETBLUES said:

paisleypark4 said:

Well I'm at work and cant hear it (trust me I will) However I doublt its going to trump over my Sticky Like Glue, Dance 4 Me, Black Sweat, Lolita, 319, Billy Jack Bitch, Sexy MF...

However..comparing a 1975 track to anything 1992 and up is odd and out of place in the first.

Yes, a 1975 track wipes the floor with the kindergarten funk listed above.

..shit, freaking Christian Agulilara, Justin Timberlake, Britney Spears, Justin Bieber and the rest of the Mickey Mouse Club have trumped those so-called examples of funk listed above.

But like I said, to each his/her own. It's all good. Enjoy what you like. That's all that matters.

Fame - Great track nasty funk. I think JAY Z actually sampled that in the Blueprint for The Takeover so thanks for that...I think maybe a lil also in Harajuku Girls by Gwen Stefani (produced by Flyte Tyme) takes a lil from that song too.

Everybody knows Under Pressure...but thats more of a pop rock opus though.

Ashes to Ashes is alright..not THAT funky but it was nice.

I will not comment on Xtina, Britney or Justin because they dont have no right to utter the words funky..even though they had a funk song here and there (Brit - "Lace and Leather") (Justin - "Rock Your Body") (Xtina "Aint No Other Man") but...on something like 1+1+1=3 or Everlasting Now..or even Get On The Boat....

No offense though to Bowie cuz I only own Yougn American..but Im scared to get into the other albums because I dont know how much funk is out there with him

paisleypark4 said:

V10LETBLUES said:

Yes, a 1975 track wipes the floor with the kindergarten funk listed above.

..shit, freaking Christian Agulilara, Justin Timberlake, Britney Spears, Justin Bieber and the rest of the Mickey Mouse Club have trumped those so-called examples of funk listed above.

But like I said, to each his/her own. It's all good. Enjoy what you like. That's all that matters.

Fame - Great track nasty funk. I think JAY Z actually sampled that in the Blueprint for The Takeover so thanks for that...I think maybe a lil also in Harajuku Girls by Gwen Stefani (produced by Flyte Tyme) takes a lil from that song too.

Everybody knows Under Pressure...but thats more of a pop rock opus though.

Ashes to Ashes is alright..not THAT funky but it was nice.

I will not comment on Xtina, Britney or Justin because they dont have no right to utter the words funky..even though they had a funk song here and there (Brit - "Lace and Leather") (Justin - "Rock Your Body") (Xtina "Aint No Other Man") but...on something like 1+1+1=3 or Everlasting Now..or even Get On The Boat....

No offense though to Bowie cuz I only own Yougn American..but Im scared to get into the other albums because I dont know how much funk is out there with him

Funk is not the only valid form of music.

TRON said:

paisleypark4 said:

Fame - Great track nasty funk. I think JAY Z actually sampled that in the Blueprint for The Takeover so thanks for that...I think maybe a lil also in Harajuku Girls by Gwen Stefani (produced by Flyte Tyme) takes a lil from that song too.

Everybody knows Under Pressure...but thats more of a pop rock opus though.

Ashes to Ashes is alright..not THAT funky but it was nice.

I will not comment on Xtina, Britney or Justin because they dont have no right to utter the words funky..even though they had a funk song here and there (Brit - "Lace and Leather") (Justin - "Rock Your Body") (Xtina "Aint No Other Man") but...on something like 1+1+1=3 or Everlasting Now..or even Get On The Boat....

No offense though to Bowie cuz I only own Yougn American..but Im scared to get into the other albums because I dont know how much funk is out there with him

Funk is not the only valid form of music.

I know its just my favorite

paisleypark4 said:

TRON said:

Funk is not the only valid form of music.

I know its just my favorite

Give the man a chance!

methinks some people here have a different opinion to me regarding what constitutes funk

TheFreakerFantastic said:

lagantest said:

the new bowie song is class.

Its a 66 year old man, in a sad contemplative mood and singing in a frail fragile voice. It is totally beautiful. It is classy. I feel that Prince although i am possibly his biggest fan, i think sometimes trying to still act too young with his music is drowning him slightly. I would love to hear some gorgeous adult songs from him, meaningful, deep. But again its a matter of opinion. Bowie i found very hard to get into now i am into him i am stuck. He is so clever and so amazing, and thought provoking. I am pleased it at the top of the charts and leap frogged over the usual shite that clogs it up. Some real talent shining through.

Yes, you've hit the nail on the head, if he released a song as mature, deep and heartfelt and used decent publicity he would be all over the news and could have a bit hit again..................

I'm not even a Bowie fan but I was highly impressed by the song and the way he's done it. The weirdness of the video adds to it, Prince should play up to his perceived weirdness too....

[Edited 1/9/13 14:53pm]

Absolutley. Prince is what 54 now? If you look at Bowies albums from that age. Heathen and Reality. Especially Heathen. Listen to how mature the songs are. How deep they are. I was listening to the song ‘Sunday’ this morning and if you think about a tragedy or a personal tragedy it sent shivers down my spine. The gorgeous melody and music on the song ‘slow burn’ is to die for. Also I think what Prince is lacking is that organic sound. Even when he sounds organic it doesn’t sound so real? Does that make sense? Listen to ‘Slow Burn’ and hear the music. Then listen to something from Lotus flow3r? Princes sound cheaply recorded and he seems to over produce the live sound in the studio to make it more manufactured thus saturating the sound of the song.

Taking 20ten as an example? It was really a total throwaway. I like ‘beginning endlessly’ but it seems to be sucked of a melody. And also ‘future soul song’ would have worked better with real drumming and without that annoying keyboard sound. It should have been live drumming and guitar instead of that. I just don’t know what he is hearing anymore. It just sounds so plastic now? I am not a musician, I can play the keyboard but cannot compose, but I am very strongly into music its what I live and breathe for and I want Prince to do better. I know he can do better. He is not shaming himself by sitting at a piano and singing some lovely melodic adult songs about adult themes. Not about how trendy he is, or who can ‘holla’ but just life. Life experience. His thoughts and opinions. He can write them metaphorically like he used to so it is open to interruptation. He just seems lazy on the lyrics and dare I say it, lazy on the music now.

I know Prince has already done acoustic stuff like ‘the truth’ etc. But just a nice grown up album would really make a nice change. What he needs to re-establish is what he was famous for in the past. He was never trying to ‘impress’ he was just doing what he does. I feel the last 10 maybe 15 years he has been trying to ‘impress’ people. Therefore leaving his music soulless. There have been the odd glimmer of hope. And some stonking songs but for everyone 1 good song there are 5 average songs. Or 3 awful songs.

What upsets me most though is that people know Bowie has released a single in 10 years. And so when he does everyone is going mad about it. Rightly so, as it is amazing. However people I speak to, say, ‘is prince still about?’ They have not got a clue of any of his output for at least 10 years. If he had a hit single, the press and people would be saying, ‘Prince’s comeback….’ But we know he has never really been away. But he has totally lost his way in my opinion. I still love him though…….

"Let's Dance" from Bowie was great and funky too, imo.

- with producer Nile Rodgers from Chic playing an amazing guitar IIRC.

(It was Nile on "Let's Dance" wasn't it?)

thedance said:

"Let's Dance" from Bowie was great and funky too, imo.

- with producer Nile Rodgers from Chic playing an amazing guitar IIRC.

(It was Nile on "Let's Dance" wasn't it?)

stevie ray vaughan played on that track... not sure if nile did... he played on the album though

^ you are right, Stevie and not Nile on guitar....

I did not remember it right..

lagantest said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Yes, you've hit the nail on the head, if he released a song as mature, deep and heartfelt and used decent publicity he would be all over the news and could have a bit hit again..................

I'm not even a Bowie fan but I was highly impressed by the song and the way he's done it. The weirdness of the video adds to it, Prince should play up to his perceived weirdness too....

[Edited 1/9/13 14:53pm]

Absolutley. Prince is what 54 now? If you look at Bowies albums from that age. Heathen and Reality. Especially Heathen. Listen to how mature the songs are. How deep they are. I was listening to the song ‘Sunday’ this morning and if you think about a tragedy or a personal tragedy it sent shivers down my spine. The gorgeous melody and music on the song ‘slow burn’ is to die for. Also I think what Prince is lacking is that organic sound. Even when he sounds organic it doesn’t sound so real? Does that make sense? Listen to ‘Slow Burn’ and hear the music. Then listen to something from Lotus flow3r? Princes sound cheaply recorded and he seems to over produce the live sound in the studio to make it more manufactured thus saturating the sound of the song.

Taking 20ten as an example? It was really a total throwaway. I like ‘beginning endlessly’ but it seems to be sucked of a melody. And also ‘future soul song’ would have worked better with real drumming and without that annoying keyboard sound. It should have been live drumming and guitar instead of that. I just don’t know what he is hearing anymore. It just sounds so plastic now? I am not a musician, I can play the keyboard but cannot compose, but I am very strongly into music its what I live and breathe for and I want Prince to do better. I know he can do better. He is not shaming himself by sitting at a piano and singing some lovely melodic adult songs about adult themes. Not about how trendy he is, or who can ‘holla’ but just life. Life experience. His thoughts and opinions. He can write them metaphorically like he used to so it is open to interruptation. He just seems lazy on the lyrics and dare I say it, lazy on the music now.

I know Prince has already done acoustic stuff like ‘the truth’ etc. But just a nice grown up album would really make a nice change. What he needs to re-establish is what he was famous for in the past. He was never trying to ‘impress’ he was just doing what he does. I feel the last 10 maybe 15 years he has been trying to ‘impress’ people. Therefore leaving his music soulless. There have been the odd glimmer of hope. And some stonking songs but for everyone 1 good song there are 5 average songs. Or 3 awful songs.

What upsets me most though is that people know Bowie has released a single in 10 years. And so when he does everyone is going mad about it. Rightly so, as it is amazing. However people I speak to, say, ‘is prince still about?’ They have not got a clue of any of his output for at least 10 years. If he had a hit single, the press and people would be saying, ‘Prince’s comeback….’ But we know he has never really been away. But he has totally lost his way in my opinion. I still love him though…….

I am a bowie fan but I'm so over these stupid comparisons. That's totally ridiculous.

One more opportunity to systematically trash Prince. They way you write off everything he has done in the last 10 years is plain stupid.

TRC, LotusFlow3r are great albums with great arrangements and compositions.

I'm a musician myself and I always though to be totally honest with you that the playing is far superior on prince albums than on Bowie's albums.

Prince is a far superior instrumentalist. His approach is instinctive. He likes grooving. He is mainly a funkateer who injects different ingredients in his music. Prince's message is a lot more in the way he plays a guitar or a bass than in the lyrics.

They are two complete different artists. Bowie intellectualizes everythin he does. Everything he does is conceptual.

That's two complete different approaches.

What are you gonna say next? That James Brown was not mature enough as well? George Clinton and Bootsy I guess are not deep enough? For fuck sake, they are groovers. They don't sing about saving the world or its future. It's about that bass, that beat, the riffs.

regarding the new Bowie tune, sorry but that's nowhere near The Motel or The Loneliest Guy from M. Bowie. It is a very average tune. But I'm sure his CD will be great.

ohYeeeeeah said:

lagantest said:

Absolutley. Prince is what 54 now? If you look at Bowies albums from that age. Heathen and Reality. Especially Heathen. Listen to how mature the songs are. How deep they are. I was listening to the song ‘Sunday’ this morning and if you think about a tragedy or a personal tragedy it sent shivers down my spine. The gorgeous melody and music on the song ‘slow burn’ is to die for. Also I think what Prince is lacking is that organic sound. Even when he sounds organic it doesn’t sound so real? Does that make sense? Listen to ‘Slow Burn’ and hear the music. Then listen to something from Lotus flow3r? Princes sound cheaply recorded and he seems to over produce the live sound in the studio to make it more manufactured thus saturating the sound of the song.

Taking 20ten as an example? It was really a total throwaway. I like ‘beginning endlessly’ but it seems to be sucked of a melody. And also ‘future soul song’ would have worked better with real drumming and without that annoying keyboard sound. It should have been live drumming and guitar instead of that. I just don’t know what he is hearing anymore. It just sounds so plastic now? I am not a musician, I can play the keyboard but cannot compose, but I am very strongly into music its what I live and breathe for and I want Prince to do better. I know he can do better. He is not shaming himself by sitting at a piano and singing some lovely melodic adult songs about adult themes. Not about how trendy he is, or who can ‘holla’ but just life. Life experience. His thoughts and opinions. He can write them metaphorically like he used to so it is open to interruptation. He just seems lazy on the lyrics and dare I say it, lazy on the music now.

I know Prince has already done acoustic stuff like ‘the truth’ etc. But just a nice grown up album would really make a nice change. What he needs to re-establish is what he was famous for in the past. He was never trying to ‘impress’ he was just doing what he does. I feel the last 10 maybe 15 years he has been trying to ‘impress’ people. Therefore leaving his music soulless. There have been the odd glimmer of hope. And some stonking songs but for everyone 1 good song there are 5 average songs. Or 3 awful songs.

What upsets me most though is that people know Bowie has released a single in 10 years. And so when he does everyone is going mad about it. Rightly so, as it is amazing. However people I speak to, say, ‘is prince still about?’ They have not got a clue of any of his output for at least 10 years. If he had a hit single, the press and people would be saying, ‘Prince’s comeback….’ But we know he has never really been away. But he has totally lost his way in my opinion. I still love him though…….

I am a bowie fan but I'm so over these stupid comparisons. That's totally ridiculous.

One more opportunity to systematically trash Prince. They way you write off everything he has done in the last 10 years is plain stupid.

TRC, LotusFlow3r are great albums with great arrangements and compositions.

I'm a musician myself and I always though to be totally honest with you that the playing is far superior on prince albums than on Bowie's albums.

Prince is a far superior instrumentalist. His approach is instinctive. He likes grooving. He is mainly a funkateer who injects different ingredients in his music. Prince's message is a lot more in the way he plays a guitar or a bass than in the lyrics.

They are two complete different artists. Bowie intellectualizes everythin he does. Everything he does is conceptual.

That's two complete different approaches.

What are you gonna say next? That James Brown was not mature enough as well? George Clinton and Bootsy I guess are not deep enough? For fuck sake, they are groovers. They don't sing about saving the world or its future. It's about that bass, that beat, the riffs.

regarding the new Bowie tune, sorry but that's nowhere near The Motel or The Loneliest Guy from M. Bowie. It is a very average tune. But I'm sure his CD will be great.

You have totally got the wrong end of the stick from what i was saying or the point i was making. Prince is ruining his legacy by churning out these grooves. he needs to work on a more sophisticated groove for this point in his career. Thats all i am saying.

If you believe it is all about the groove then do you think 20ten cuts the mustard? Or MPLsound for that matter? Or planet earth? No, yes lotusflow3r was brilliant but again the sound on it and the depth of it is not great. His recording methods and the quality of the sound are not right. I cant describe what it is wrong, but it seems like he is recording everything in low quality. It just feels so tight all the time. Never loose.

You are comparing Bowie's songs to his old songs. I am not doing that with Prince. What i am saying is 20ten was rubbish, rushed, shallow and a pointless record. Done nothing for his career. However i am saying on ways he can improve things. I am not knocking him but from a fans point of view he really needs a shake up.

TRON said:

Funk is not the only valid form of music.

............It should be.

Funk......is it's own reward.

Graycap23 said:

TRON said:

Funk is not the only valid form of music.

............It should be.

Funk......is it's own reward.

[Edited 1/10/13 6:28am]

Ok, i don't want to belabor this Prince v. Bowie point, the funk point that is, but yesterday I was listening to P's version of Mutiny and found myself asking was Bowie's "funky stuff" (which i admit i haven't heard apart from a few singles like Fame, Let's Dance, Under Pressure, etc) largely/solely the result of producers like Nile Rodgers (others)? If so for me that diminishes (it's like when P said can U2 do Housequake when they beat him for album of the year with the Joshua Tree when SOTT was out). If your funkiness is CREATED by a producer and is a "stretch" for you rather than oozing from your bones where u can create it/play it yourself WHENEVER, then NO you are not funky!! There may be another word for it, creative, adaptable, diverse, etc. (and Bowie is all of these and more) but if you NEED a producer to CAPTURE it for u, uh, NO

datdude said:

Ok, i don't want to belabor this Prince v. Bowie point, the funk point that is, but yesterday I was listening to P's version of Mutiny and found myself asking was Bowie's "funky stuff" (which i admit i haven't heard apart from a few singles like Fame, Let's Dance, Under Pressure, etc) largely/solely the result of producers like Nile Rodgers (others)? If so for me that diminishes (it's like when P said can U2 do Housequake when they beat him for album of the year with the Joshua Tree when SOTT was out). If your funkiness is CREATED by a producer and is a "stretch" for you rather than oozing from your bones where u can create it/play it yourself WHENEVER, then NO you are not funky!! There may be another word for it, creative, adaptable, diverse, etc. (and Bowie is all of these and more) but if you NEED a producer to CAPTURE it for u, uh, NO

I don't think anyone is taking anything away form Prince's funk genius. Or for that matter his ability for sophistication. SOTT, Parade, Purple Rain, ATWIAD all ooze effortless sophistication, artistry and funkiness without peer. But like Mutiny, that was over 20 yrs ago.

lagantest said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Yes, you've hit the nail on the head, if he released a song as mature, deep and heartfelt and used decent publicity he would be all over the news and could have a bit hit again..................

I'm not even a Bowie fan but I was highly impressed by the song and the way he's done it. The weirdness of the video adds to it, Prince should play up to his perceived weirdness too....

[Edited 1/9/13 14:53pm]

Absolutley. Prince is what 54 now? If you look at Bowies albums from that age. Heathen and Reality. Especially Heathen. Listen to how mature the songs are. How deep they are. I was listening to the song ‘Sunday’ this morning and if you think about a tragedy or a personal tragedy it sent shivers down my spine. The gorgeous melody and music on the song ‘slow burn’ is to die for. Also I think what Prince is lacking is that organic sound. Even when he sounds organic it doesn’t sound so real? Does that make sense? Listen to ‘Slow Burn’ and hear the music. Then listen to something from Lotus flow3r? Princes sound cheaply recorded and he seems to over produce the live sound in the studio to make it more manufactured thus saturating the sound of the song.

Taking 20ten as an example? It was really a total throwaway. I like ‘beginning endlessly’ but it seems to be sucked of a melody. And also ‘future soul song’ would have worked better with real drumming and without that annoying keyboard sound. It should have been live drumming and guitar instead of that. I just don’t know what he is hearing anymore. It just sounds so plastic now? I am not a musician, I can play the keyboard but cannot compose, but I am very strongly into music its what I live and breathe for and I want Prince to do better. I know he can do better. He is not shaming himself by sitting at a piano and singing some lovely melodic adult songs about adult themes. Not about how trendy he is, or who can ‘holla’ but just life. Life experience. His thoughts and opinions. He can write them metaphorically like he used to so it is open to interruptation. He just seems lazy on the lyrics and dare I say it, lazy on the music now.

I know Prince has already done acoustic stuff like ‘the truth’ etc. But just a nice grown up album would really make a nice change. What he needs to re-establish is what he was famous for in the past. He was never trying to ‘impress’ he was just doing what he does. I feel the last 10 maybe 15 years he has been trying to ‘impress’ people. Therefore leaving his music soulless. There have been the odd glimmer of hope. And some stonking songs but for everyone 1 good song there are 5 average songs. Or 3 awful songs.

What upsets me most though is that people know Bowie has released a single in 10 years. And so when he does everyone is going mad about it. Rightly so, as it is amazing. However people I speak to, say, ‘is prince still about?’ They have not got a clue of any of his output for at least 10 years. If he had a hit single, the press and people would be saying, ‘Prince’s comeback….’ But we know he has never really been away. But he has totally lost his way in my opinion. I still love him though…….

I second my comment - you HAVE hit the nail on the head