FunkiestOne said:

I just noticed this and am at a loss for words! Either someone has lightened up or someone else is a little thick.

Although, he did say at the 9/26 show, "Do what you want with this music. It's yours, too." Hmm.....

it all comes off as a bit snidey to me

FunkySideEffects said:

FunkiestOne said:

I didn't get an orgnote but the thread when I left it was not any different than this one really. It was just discussing Andy posting the links on FB and Twitter. Although I suppose there was discussion that the links were up here at some point...anyway, not your fault and you have to watch your back so it's all good.

The org note was sent to my account by mistake (I think?)

Yewp - I've re-directed - thanks for letting me know

funkyhead said:

excited said:

it all comes off as a bit snidey to me

I agree...

I was thinking maybe it's another olive branch being extended in lieu of Monday's unfortunate events, the swipe at bootleggers notwithstanding.

Anyhoo, thanks Prince.

Fonkyman said:

purplethunder3121 said:

“Oh my goodness. Somebody get me a copy of that right now! Where the bootleggers is?” –Prince

I'm not sure that's exactly what he said, not verbatim. There could be a long held misconception of the phrase and I mean to offend nobody with my posting.

While I realise that was posted on Miss Allos' page, unfortunately, along with many others she may well be very much mistaken. On many recordings we can hear the phrase or something very similar. In many cases this may easily be misconstrued.

Purportedly a journal, a small notepad had been discovered in a derelict cattle shed in Minnesota, sometime in 2007. On close inspection of said article, we find a veritable pandoras box full of scribblings and sketches. Jotted down in what appears to be Princes own hand are some of the mutterings and phrases that we've heard in past recordings. Along with many we haven't.

I believe, after studying this journal, that the aforementioned phrase must be in fact "Where's the bootleggers ears". Much like we hear for example on the ONA tour "Where's my dancers ears". These are among many phrases and ideas we find in the journal. It's most apparent (after following links left on page 88) that Prince is and always has been strangely fascinated by the movement of the human ear. A quote from the journal:

"Gonna make y'all raise ya eyebrows, do it all up in here, wanna see yo ears dance-wriggle, so dance my dancers ears, c'mon now".

We mustn't be too quick to make assumptions. There are many dark thoughts jotted down in the notepad and we must proceed with caution. Trying to make sense of it all is beginning to become unbearable. There are ideas harking back to the water jet trick with the guitar. "Shock em, watch their ears move" it says, alongside a self portait roughly sketched in charcoal. "Enter stage in T-Bird", "Do splits close to front row (wearing only chaps)", "Hide under stage 4 half hour".... It goes on and on.

Just sayin.

???

18 hours, and it's still up. What does that tell you?

8O2 said:

18 hours, and it's still up. What does that tell you?

It makes it much less likely that her account was hacked, although I won't be completely convinced until she posts something else.

It's seriously baffling. Not just posting the link, but thanking the people who recorded it and put it up? (or at the very least, announced that it was there).

How utterly confusing. Is this a once-off, or does it indicate a green light? In the future, tapers won't know whether they're going to get thanked or spanked...

...still, it's hard to complain when it means we get a whole afterjam to enjoy, guilt-free!

Chiquetet said:

8O2 said:

18 hours, and it's still up. What does that tell you?

It makes it much less likely that her account was hacked, although I won't be completely convinced until she posts something else.

It's seriously baffling. Not just posting the link, but thanking the people who recorded it and put it up? (or at the very least, announced that it was there).

How utterly confusing. Is this a once-off, or does it indicate a green light? In the future, tapers won't know whether they're going to get thanked or spanked...

...still, it's hard to complain when it means we get a whole afterjam to enjoy, guilt-free!

Until we know otherwise, this was Prince approved. I guess, we're all just trying to get over the shock of it all!

LOL! Talk about "ask and you shall receive"

She just posted/tweeted again. So now I have to think that it's a legit posting and, given how long it's been up there, that it has Prince's blessing (or at least isn't specifically against his wishes). He may not be on social media but he's got plenty of people watching.

Maybe Andy really is just being the People Pleaser (somewhat ironically, given the chorus )

Chiquetet said:

LOL! Talk about "ask and you shall receive"

She just posted/tweeted again. So now I have to think that it's a legit posting and, given how long it's been up there, that it has Prince's blessing (or at least isn't specifically against his wishes). He may not be on social media but he's got plenty of people watching.

Maybe Andy really is just being the People Pleaser (somewhat ironically, given the chorus )

If Prince wasn't involved with this, Andy Allo would've been fired 18 hours ago with her Superconductor album permanently cancelled (Who says it hasn't )

8O2 said:

If Prince wasn't involved with this, Andy Allo would've been fired 18 hours ago with her Superconductor album permanently cancelled (Who says it hasn't )

Yes, I was briefly concerned yesterday that maybe this was the act of someone who'd just been Tamar'd, but I don't think so, particularly given her latest post, which, while just been a bit of fun, is still about 'People Pleaser' - the playfulness of which suggests more "current crush" and less "bitter ex-protege"

Perhaps she's just exactly the sort of lightness Prince needs in his life right now

TypoQueen said:

udo said:

Why did they delete the thread?

Due to website owners rules the country of the website owner and that host website abide by the laws of those countries. Are you willing to take the risk of another website gone in this community? Are you willing to pay all cost for legal battles if those that deem laws broken decide to sue?

The link was gone, so what law are you afraid of? Please elaborate as I only know the USA constitution somewhat.

What was the link remaining in the thread after the edits?

So why did the thread have to be deletec at all?

Simple questions with hopefully reasonable and simple answers.

Ben has decided he is not willing to take the risk we should ALL respect this.

Very understandable but this stifles any intelligent view on situations, let alone discussion.

The moderators abide by the rules that Ben set out. If not happy with website rules, rules brought in to protect the owner and this website then created a prince website of your own and take the risks yourself. Simples...

That is nonsense.

Please do explain the extreme differnece between the thread with the link posted by Andy, which link was removed from the thread, and subsequently the thread was deleted AND

the Extralovable and brass thread.

The reason for concern in the first thread was gone, the official status was not acknowledged or denied, the thread was despite all this deleted leaving at least me quite confused. (the 'play' safe yet the thread goes)

Damaris posted video of her segment from one of the Chicago shows as well, which is pro-shot, not bootleg. So does this old man have a crush on her too?

Why romanticize this bizarre connection wilth Allo (playing into her ludicrous egotism), yet not Damaris, who has also been permitted to put recent footage online?

^Can't he have a crush on two beautiful ladies in his life? Or 3 or 4, for that matter?

Edit: Probably a little too cheeky and might sound ungrateful - in any case, rockstars are allowed a few crushes, I'm sure

[Edited 9/29/12 22:43pm]

WaterInYourBath said:

paulludvig said:

Fonkyman said:

I'm not sure that's exactly what he said, not verbatim. There could be a long held misconception of the phrase and I mean to offend nobody with my posting.

While I realise that was posted on Miss Allos' page, unfortunately, along with many others she may well be very much mistaken. On many recordings we can hear the phrase or something very similar. In many cases this may easily be misconstrued.

Purportedly a journal, a small notepad had been discovered in a derelict cattle shed in Minnesota, sometime in 2007. On close inspection of said article, we find a veritable pandoras box full of scribblings and sketches. Jotted down in what appears to be Princes own hand are some of the mutterings and phrases that we've heard in past recordings. Along with many we haven't.

I believe, after studying this journal, that the aforementioned phrase must be in fact "Where's the bootleggers ears". Much like we hear for example on the ONA tour "Where's my dancers ears". These are among many phrases and ideas we find in the journal. It's most apparent (after following links left on page 88) that Prince is and always has been strangely fascinated by the movement of the human ear. A quote from the journal:

"Gonna make y'all raise ya eyebrows, do it all up in here, wanna see yo ears dance-wriggle, so dance my dancers ears, c'mon now".

We mustn't be too quick to make assumptions. There are many dark thoughts jotted down in the notepad and we must proceed with caution. Trying to make sense of it all is beginning to become unbearable. There are ideas harking back to the water jet trick with the guitar. "Shock em, watch their ears move" it says, alongside a self portait roughly sketched in charcoal. "Enter stage in T-Bird", "Do splits close to front row (wearing only chaps)", "Hide under stage 4 half hour".... It goes on and on.

Just sayin.

???

?!

SchlomoThaHomo said:

I just noticed this and am at a loss for words! Either someone has lightened up or someone else is a little thick.

Although, he did say at the 9/26 show, "Do what you want with this music. It's yours, too." Hmm.....

Ah, that's an eye opener in hind sight, isn't it...

funkaholic1972 said:

On the page where you can actually download the aftershow I also found a link to a torrent of a video of the whole last W2C main show! Which I quickly downloaded as well. I think Prince might have leaked these bootlegs to re-establish his somewhat tarnished reputation as a live performer, after the first night of W2C was widely critisized (and publicized). Prince cannot afford this as touring is his main source of income, now that his records don't sell as good anymore...

I can't download this file. I wish there was an official release

databank said:

The sound quality sounds astonishing for a mere audience recording.

Could this be azn official stream disguised as a boot?

You mean the main show? (sounds like someone sitting not too close to the speakers..)

Or probably the aftershow? (better...)

udo said:

databank said:

The sound quality sounds astonishing for a mere audience recording.

Could this be azn official stream disguised as a boot?

You mean the main show? (sounds like someone sitting not too close to the speakers..)

Or probably the aftershow? (better...)

I had only listened to the teaser.

It's definitely fanmade I guess. Now does a fanmade recording endorsed by the artist become a de facto official release, or does it remain a bootleg???

luv4u said:

funkyhead said:

should this not be a sticky?

No

Of course not.

Never clarify the actions.

Never explain why.

Never discuss.

Until now the stance must be interpreted as:

All is unoffical and should thus be deleted into infinity until mr Prince come out and postes on youtube saying he explicit;y approves of something.

I do hope you understand that sounds a bit bad. (understatement)

databank said:

Now does a fanmade recording endorsed by the artist become a de facto official release, or does it remain a bootleg???

The release remains as it is, but the status can be changed from 'absolutely illegal' to 'approved by the artist'.

udo said:

databank said:

Now does a fanmade recording endorsed by the artist become a de facto official release, or does it remain a bootleg???

The release remains as it is, but the status can be changed from 'absolutely illegal' to 'approved by the artist'.

And it's still unsure wheither Jill Jones posted 4 Lust herself or merely signaled that someone else had, is it?

So, it's still up on her page, almost a day later and she's posted since. We can probably assume then that there was no hacking. Ergo, it's P approved? If that's the case and he's happy with her putting links up to Torrent sites are we all good to go now? Reading some of the comments on her page I'm hoping he's taking it in too and personally, I'm quite looking forward to a First Ave '82 soundboard. Probably best not to hold my breath while I wait though eh.

I nearly had my arm taken off in the Indigo for grabbing a couple of seconds of video. Five years on and he's asking "Where the bootlegger is" and letting Andy throw us some links? He's some entertainer, I'll give him that. Not just on stage either.

Still confusing though. Don't get me wrong, I'm grateful for it and anything else we get but why wont he just sort a site out himself. *Everybody groan on the 1* - No, not like ShiteShower. He could put out some of the stuff a lot of us might have already but in decent quality with packaging etc. Chuck us a few bones from the vault every now and then. He'd make a fortune and we could all buy it 'officially'.

I'm off to check 'the journal', see if I can make any sense of all this...

Wait a sec: some people here REALLY toyed with the idea that she may have done this without Prince's approval???

OBVIOUSLY, either she asked for permission or -it's even more likely- she was instructed to post that link.

Either way, Prince condoned this from the first second.

I agree that the sound quality sounds a bit too good for a audience boot. Also, his comment. come on.lol. I don't think Allo blows her nose without approval. So, thank you Prince. Maybe, he can ask where the AV bootleggers are next so we can get the whole package.