juliejuliejulie said:

I agree that the sound quality sounds a bit too good for a audience boot. Also, his comment. come on.lol. I don't think Allo blows her nose without approval. So, thank you Prince. Maybe, he can ask where the AV bootleggers are next so we can get the whole package.

Have you listened to the whole thing, or just the sample?

It's good, but it's definitely recorded in the audience. Also, on the Funkatopia page they make reference to knowing who taped it, so I get the impression that the decision to share the link came after it was taped and released.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it's just a bit of a purple prank as a follow-on from his comment that night... ie. no one would have expected him to follow up on that!

Not that it's a big surprise, I guess, but it does confirm that Prince (or at least Andy) knows, not just the sites exist, but where they are and what they're offering.

He did also say in an interview recently that the cameras would be rolling for these concerts (as if they aren't for the others!), so fingers crossed this does actually result in a DVD sooner rather than later. If he feels that people are starting to question his ability to perform live, which, as people have said, is a more crucial part of his business model than ever these days, then he may need to put out a DVD (ideally from the 25th) to prove them wrong.

Chiquetet said:

juliejuliejulie said:

I agree that the sound quality sounds a bit too good for a audience boot. Also, his comment. come on.lol. I don't think Allo blows her nose without approval. So, thank you Prince. Maybe, he can ask where the AV bootleggers are next so we can get the whole package.

Have you listened to the whole thing, or just the sample?

It's good, but it's definitely recorded in the audience. Also, on the Funkatopia page they make reference to knowing who taped it, so I get the impression that the decision to share the link came after it was taped and released.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it's just a bit of a purple prank as a follow-on from his comment that night... ie. no one would have expected him to follow up on that!

Not that it's a big surprise, I guess, but it does confirm that Prince (or at least Andy) knows, not just the sites exist, but where they are and what they're offering.

He did also say in an interview recently that the cameras would be rolling for these concerts (as if they aren't for the others!), so fingers crossed this does actually result in a DVD sooner rather than later. If he feels that people are starting to question his ability to perform live, which, as people have said, is a more crucial part of his business model than ever these days, then he may need to put out a DVD (ideally from the 25th) to prove them wrong.

Ya, I agree. I'd only listened to the first bit of it as I was typing that.

databank said:

Wait a sec: some people here REALLY toyed with the idea that she may have done this without Prince's approval???

OBVIOUSLY, either she asked for permission or -it's even more likely- she was instructed to post that link.

Either way, Prince condoned this from the first second.

At first I thought she'd had her accounts chopped into, must have. Either that or as you say, P had told her to put it out, or at least put up the links to it. If that's the case, which it looks like it is, wtf is he up to?

It's not that different quality-wise to your average aftershow audience recording. Any tapers in the place must've shit themselves when he asked where they were though.

He's stirring the pot pretty good whatever the story.

udo said:

^ Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha... hey...

To people who think she posted it without prince's involvement... why would andy allo be searching through bootleg sites haha, thats just too weird

udo said:

Why did they delete the thread?

They suck is the most extreme ways that they can't comprehend.

The American approach to 'intellectual property' is absurd and resembles the ostrich in a certain position.

The problem won't go away.

The fact that you behave like a slave to the system doesn't do anybody good.

Now what is 'official'?

What was the link remaining in the thread after the edits?

So why did the thread have to be deletec at all?

Simple questions with hopefully reasonable and simple answers.

The American approach is the same one that has existed in DEVELOPED countries for centuries. That is, you don't get to steal from people even if it is technologically easy to do so. That you wish to steal from (mostly) American and have your conscience cleared resembles the ostrich in a certain position.

And yes, Prince is as big a hypocrite as there is in the music business. He threatens to sue the Northern Europeans for releasing a box sets of covers (which are protected by compulsory licensensing) while using the same laws to release his own covers. I could cite many such examples, but he does hate his biggest fans and the brighter fans have hated him back for a good 15 years or so. Undeniable talent is no substitute for class or common sense.

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LaceyB said:

udo said:

Why did they delete the thread?

They suck is the most extreme ways that they can't comprehend.

The American approach to 'intellectual property' is absurd and resembles the ostrich in a certain position.

The problem won't go away.

The fact that you behave like a slave to the system doesn't do anybody good.

Now what is 'official'?

What was the link remaining in the thread after the edits?

So why did the thread have to be deletec at all?

Simple questions with hopefully reasonable and simple answers.

The American approach is the same one that has existed in DEVELOPED countries for centuries. That is, you don't get to steal from people even if it is technologically easy to do so. That you wish to steal from (mostly) American and have your conscience cleared resembles the ostrich in a certain position.

And yes, Prince is as big a hypocrite as there is in the music business. He threatens to sue the Northern Europeans for releasing a box sets of covers (which are protected by compulsory licensensing) while using the same laws to release his own covers. I could cite many such examples, but he does hate his biggest fans and the brighter fans have hated him back for a good 15 years or so. Undeniable talent is no substitute for class or common sense.

Furthermore:

As the USA is gradually turning into a developING nation, what are you saying?

You entirely miss out the difference between an honest, coherent copyright scheme that ws in the older days versus the obscene greed that is displayed in what 'copyright' currently is and what it will become.

Copying is a right. This right is only resitricted in certain cases for a limited time.

The MAFIAA from the USA is lobbying for even longer copyright time frames which currently are already outrageous and significantly longer than say 25 years or 50 years ago.

The whole idea has been bastardised.

Banning links to videos, blocking videos etc has nothign to do with lost profits.

Supposed profits that never were, never will be because THEY do not provide to a market.

udo said:

LaceyB said:

The American approach is the same one that has existed in DEVELOPED countries for centuries. That is, you don't get to steal from people even if it is technologically easy to do so. That you wish to steal from (mostly) American and have your conscience cleared resembles the ostrich in a certain position.

And yes, Prince is as big a hypocrite as there is in the music business. He threatens to sue the Northern Europeans for releasing a box sets of covers (which are protected by compulsory licensensing) while using the same laws to release his own covers. I could cite many such examples, but he does hate his biggest fans and the brighter fans have hated him back for a good 15 years or so. Undeniable talent is no substitute for class or common sense.

Furthermore:

As the USA is gradually turning into a developING nation, what are you saying?

You entirely miss out the difference between an honest, coherent copyright scheme that ws in the older days versus the obscene greed that is displayed in what 'copyright' currently is and what it will become.

Copying is a right. This right is only resitricted in certain cases for a limited time.

The MAFIAA from the USA is lobbying for even longer copyright time frames which currently are already outrageous and significantly longer than say 25 years or 50 years ago.

The whole idea has been bastardised.

Banning links to videos, blocking videos etc has nothign to do with lost profits.

Supposed profits that never were, never will be because THEY do not provide to a market.

I live in the USA and yes it sucks in a lot of ways but probably not much worse than most countries...it's better than most of the African countries, I would guess. ..probably better than China. The progressive European countries are probably better but not by that much.

Anyway just remember that the evil mfers have gotten the power in the USA and it is their fault and not the citizens when the USA f*cks with other countries. The general population is to blame for not electing better politicians though. When George W won four more years, I gave up ALL hope on the American electorate.

But yes the heads of the major corporations are pretty evil...some are worse than others but they got all that money and power by being bullies and stealing and paying off people to get what they want.

Fonkyman said:

databank said:

Wait a sec: some people here REALLY toyed with the idea that she may have done this without Prince's approval???

OBVIOUSLY, either she asked for permission or -it's even more likely- she was instructed to post that link.

Either way, Prince condoned this from the first second.

At first I thought she'd had her accounts chopped into, must have. Either that or as you say, P had told her to put it out, or at least put up the links to it. If that's the case, which it looks like it is, wtf is he up to?

It's not that different quality-wise to your average aftershow audience recording. Any tapers in the place must've shit themselves when he asked where they were though.

He's stirring the pot pretty good whatever the story.

That's a good sign, kind of.

rdhull said:

Fonkyman said:

At first I thought she'd had her accounts chopped into, must have. Either that or as you say, P had told her to put it out, or at least put up the links to it. If that's the case, which it looks like it is, wtf is he up to?

It's not that different quality-wise to your average aftershow audience recording. Any tapers in the place must've shit themselves when he asked where they were though.

He's stirring the pot pretty good whatever the story.

That's a good sign, kind of.

He;s definitely stirring the pot...

babynoz said:

I was thinking maybe it's another olive branch being extended in lieu of Monday's unfortunate events, the swipe at bootleggers notwithstanding.

Anyhoo, thanks Prince.

Yeah, this must be his way of making it up for Monday night @ House of Blues. I mean people were mad as hell at Prince not performing that night. And a lot of them must've only been there for just that day and missed out on Tuesday&Wednesday aftershows...and they were taking it out on Andy So Andy posting this via her twitter...It all makes sense, at least to me.

He's just one adorable 54 year old dude don't u think ??

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Emancipation89 said:

babynoz said:

I was thinking maybe it's another olive branch being extended in lieu of Monday's unfortunate events, the swipe at bootleggers notwithstanding.

Anyhoo, thanks Prince.

Yeah, this must be his way of making it up for Monday night @ House of Blues. I mean people were mad as hell at Prince not performing that night. And a lot of them must've only been there for just that day and missed out on Tuesday&Wednesday aftershows...and they were taking it out on Andy So Andy posting this via her twitter...It all makes sense, at least to me.

He's just one adorable 54 year old dude don't u think ??

What Prince has going never gets old

Emancipation89 said:

babynoz said:

I was thinking maybe it's another olive branch being extended in lieu of Monday's unfortunate events, the swipe at bootleggers notwithstanding.

Anyhoo, thanks Prince.

Yeah, this must be his way of making it up for Monday night @ House of Blues. I mean people were mad as hell at Prince not performing that night. And a lot of them must've only been there for just that day and missed out on Tuesday&Wednesday aftershows...and they were taking it out on Andy So Andy posting this via her twitter...It all makes sense, at least to me.

He's just one adorable 54 year old dude don't u think ??

[Edited 9/30/12 20:00pm]

I couldn't agree more. I think this was his way of making up for Monday's shenanigans. There was no excuse for them to not start the show until 3am. I don't care if it was an Andy showcase. Wednesday was the perfect blend of NPG, Prince and Andy.

peri1025 said:

I couldn't agree more. I think this was his way of making up for Monday's shenanigans. There was no excuse for them to not start the show until 3am. I don't care if it was an Andy showcase. Wednesday was the perfect blend of NPG, Prince and Andy.

It really was. Though I'm not surprised why people loved Tuesday's after-show most, I thought Wednesday night was just as great. And as for Monday, I didn't mind Andy's showcase that much either, I actually like her new songs...As disappointed as I was not to see Prince's performance that night, I really didn't wanna go home with all that negative energy...so after certain point I was just like, Oh well, might as well try to have fun . I think people would have been a lot less angry with the wait if Prince could've played just one or two songs at the end. lol.

peri1025 said:

There was no excuse for them to not start the show until 3am.

Did mr P have to ask you about his own schedule?

He did a show with a soundcheck etc before that. He might want to do stuff at the hotel or wherever and only then head off to the afterparty, aftershow or wherever.

There is plenty of reason for shows not to start until 03:00 hours.

I don't care if it was an Andy showcase.

Certain other people might care.

See, I am not defending mr Prince here, just stating the facts.

If these facts are not enough for you then, wel...

FunkiestOne said:

He already took down Housequake and some other fan sites.

No he didn't - Housequake closed because Aaron decided he wanted to close.

This has been discussed many times so I'm not sure why it's not sinking in.

Of course the original thread is not reinstated, even now - without the links.

That shows.

By all accounts she's a bit of a bird brain, so it was probably done without the consent of her pimp.

NouveauDance said:

By all accounts she's a bit of a bird brain, so it was probably done without the consent of her pimp.

I recall that the p said that the 'net was dead.

So would he still bother?

I'd guess he will after a while, but now?

The dude that posted the aftershow also has links on his social media page to other stuff that certain artists have never released. Stuff that, if posted on various websites that feature videos, would be taken down in a second.

If Prince authorized this, either he hasn't checked out the page of the guy who's providing the download, or he looks at bootlegs a whole lot differently than I thought he did.

Prince does not know this leak, but now he does. I guess it's her way of dissing him now, since she's upset her silly album wasn't released as scheduled by her pimp.

Yes, this is just her trying to piss him off. Prince does not allow this kinda fuckery.

OzlemUcucu said:

Prince does not know this leak, but now he does. I guess it's her way of dissing him now, since she's upset her silly album wasn't released as scheduled by her pimp.

Yes, this is just her trying to piss him off. Prince does not allow this kinda fuckery.

You could be right, and this could mean "Superconductor" gets the "Milk and Honey" treatment.

RodeoSchro said:

OzlemUcucu said:

Prince does not know this leak, but now he does. I guess it's her way of dissing him now, since she's upset her silly album wasn't released as scheduled by her pimp.

Yes, this is just her trying to piss him off. Prince does not allow this kinda fuckery.

You could be right, and this could mean "Superconductor" gets the "Milk and Honey" treatment.

It's just a guess. It's not like he doesn't care about Superfucktor, but looks like a power game between those two. There is now way Prince would give consent for cheap bootleg recording. If he was okay with this, he'd have given away some good footage. On the other hand, she has provided some TV promo for his gigs, and got nothing in return.

She's totally pissed off, and dissing him bad ass. Surely, Prince is the winner. The pimp!

I'm sure Andy's part-time-jobb is to track down bootleggers, and since Prince is "OFFLINE" (internett is dead, remember) she posted it on FB, then he will GET THE MESSAGE....

Clever girl

No matter she had permission or not it's cool she did this.

I like her.

Well she's not exactly going to get sued is she?!

I think P probably allows her a bit of leeway to discover his legacy.

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TheFreakerFantastic said:

I think P probably allows her a bit of leeway to discover his legacy.

Is that what he's calling it these days?...

Not sure when it happened, but I just noticed that her post is now gone from Facebook (but the tweet is still there).

Presumably that's just like the videos that she and others have posted in the past (ie. it stays for a few days/weeks and then disappears) - if there was trouble, I'd imagine all traces of it would be gone, including from Twitter.

I have 2 admit that I haven't read all posts here but if the blog with the links hasn't got a cease and desist letter it must have been somewhat okay with P?

As he or his team gotta b aware of Andy posting the links 2 the downloads by now...it's remains confusing what happened