theonly4ever said:

And maybe that explains why he likes very young girls : they don't have any experience or expectation... (his wives, anna fantastic..)

You made him sound like a pedophile or something. They were young, but legal.

Not only that, it's not even true of all his exes. I'm pretty sure Vanity was right around his age, and she was hanging out with Rick James ("Superfreak") before she met Prince, and her and Prince ended up together for awhile.

So I think Prince can hold his own in the sack.

Dren5 said:

theonly4ever said:

And maybe that explains why he likes very young girls : they don't have any experience or expectation... (his wives, anna fantastic..)

You made him sound like a pedophile or something. They were young, but legal.

Barely. He courted both Garcias, Anna and Mayte respectively, before they were of legal age.

Dren5 said:

theonly4ever said:

And maybe that explains why he likes very young girls : they don't have any experience or expectation... (his wives, anna fantastic..)

You made him sound like a pedophile or something. They were young, but legal.

Not only that, it's not even true of all his exes. I'm pretty sure Vanity was right around his age, and she was hanging out with Rick James ("Superfreak") before she met Prince, and her and Prince ended up together for awhile.

So I think Prince can hold his own in the sack.

Ok.Maybe...

I'm just curious, if we had the evidence that he is really awful in bed (again, we would have to define "awful"), would it change your appreciation about him?

NouveauDance said:

Dren5 said:

You made him sound like a pedophile or something. They were young, but legal.

Barely. He courted both Garcias, Anna and Mayte respectively, before they were of legal age.

Were you there? No.

You can't prove that shit. It's just gossip and hearsay.

theonly4ever said:

Dren5 said:

You made him sound like a pedophile or something. They were young, but legal.

Not only that, it's not even true of all his exes. I'm pretty sure Vanity was right around his age, and she was hanging out with Rick James ("Superfreak") before she met Prince, and her and Prince ended up together for awhile.

So I think Prince can hold his own in the sack.

Ok.Maybe...

I'm just curious, if we had the evidence that he is really awful in bed (again, we would have to define "awful"), would it change your appreciation about him?

...Are you serious?

Dren5 said:

theonly4ever said:

Ok.Maybe...

I'm just curious, if we had the evidence that he is really awful in bed (again, we would have to define "awful"), would it change your appreciation about him?

...Are you serious?

what?

I meant: we don't care! He can be a sex-machine or not, we "only" get to listen to his music anyway... And even a woman or a man or a mirror tells me he's just meh, it would not change my love for him. I mean, his music.

amorbella said:

lauralevesque said:

What makes you think it wouldn't be? Many women consider him sexy as hell- why wouldn't he be good in bed? I don't think he'd make such a fuss if he couldn't back it up.

yES, he's sexy as hell....but, still to this day, just from watching the kiss scene with Apples in PR I just think hes not a great kisser...always imagined he made up for it physically in "different" ways

No, his kissing didn't impress me either. It's either sloopy like in PR or dry like in UTCM.

mimi02 said:

amorbella said:

yES, he's sexy as hell....but, still to this day, just from watching the kiss scene with Apples in PR I just think hes not a great kisser...always imagined he made up for it physically in "different" ways

No, his kissing didn't impress me either. It's either sloopy like in PR or dry like in UTCM.

That puddy pat kiss is the business ..yall crazy.

rdhull said:

mimi02 said:

No, his kissing didn't impress me either. It's either sloopy like in PR or dry like in UTCM.

That puddy pat kiss is the business ..yall crazy.

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Genesia said:

rdhull said:

That puddy pat kiss is the business ..yall crazy.

[img:$uid]http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g216/rebecca8273/Kitty.png[/img:$uid]

oh, hell yeah....

theonly4ever said:

Dren5 said:

...Are you serious?

what?

I meant: we don't care! He can be a sex-machine or not, we "only" get to listen to his music anyway... And even a woman or a man or a mirror tells me he's just meh, it would not change my love for him. I mean, his music.

No offense but honestly that just seemed like the ultimate stupid-as-fuck question to me.

No, I don't listen to his music because I think he's a good lay.

vainandy said:

Just look at how he strokes and licks the shaft of his guitar. I bet he could suck a mean dick. Hell, he sure had Rick behaving like a bitter ex husband for decades. Poor thang went so crazy he started dressing like him. Now, you know that's a good ho to be on a man's mind that many years.

you ain't lost your touch son, and thank you for not commenting on Fischer's passing.

I would think that this whole "prince sex quality index" would be the same for the woman with him as it would be for anybody else..

meaning: if the woman who was with him at that particular time - "famous" or not - was really attracted to him, I'd think that she'd be happy just to be having sex with him. she might be thinking:

"wow, I am actually having sex with prince..!"

with that mere thought, though, she might be too distracted to really enjoy whatever they were doing at that moment.

maybe prince "gets over" by the fact he is who he is.. & maybe he thinks that he doesn't have to make a "big effort" or do that much.. unless he really wanted to make a "good impression" on the woman (going down on her until she orgasmed, kissing/sucking on her neck, whatever it is that totally turned her on..)

in a more general sense.. several women who've told me details about their sex life have said that quite a few men who "talk the talk" don't always "walk the walk"..

I know for me - the more "attractive" I found the woman to be

(who I was with at that time)

the more I thought the sex was good/mind-blowing.

in my mind, the sex was ALWAYS good when I found the woman to be attractive/desirable to me.

in her mind - & maybe she might have even told me - she might have thought something like

"well.. I really didn't do all that.. but if you enjoyed it that much.. cool!"

I don't recall even 2 or 3 occasions where I was only "moderately or minimally" attracted to a woman..

had sex with her..

& then thought afterwards.. "eh.. she was aaiiight.." (=average or below)

imagine a "typical female prince fan"

(IF such a thing exists)

& through (outrageous fortune?) she found herself having sex with prince..

1 would imagine just him getting undressed - or him actually undressing her - would be too much for the woman.. at that point she might not even know if prince actually put himself inside her

OR

was only using his thumb!

then (sidebar) I wonder if/how often prince would say to the woman - before "getting started" - something to the effect of "yeah, we're doing this now.. but don't kiss & tell, got it??"

were it a celebrity of some import.. he might not mind her talking about it after the fact..

but if it were "just a fan".. eh.. I don't know what he'd say

or if he'd even doing anything with her.

can you imagine.. a woman NOT finding prince "sexually attractive".. & then prince having to..

"work for it"??

ha ha ha..!

would prince be "that persistent" until he "wore the woman down" & she gave up & said, basically..

"oh.. ALRIGHT.. just DO IT & GET IT OVER WITH. I have to get up in the morning!"

(eh.. somewhat difficult to imagine this sort of scenario..)

if such a woman (& such a situatio) existed..

wouldn't she say - after the fact - something to the effect of "eh.. Prince was.. alright.."

also (lastly?) it's probably important to make the distinction between Prince when he 1st became known & the "prince" of today..

back then - 1976 through, let's say.. 1985-86? - people thought less & worried less about "safe sex" & all its (negative) implications..

plus, Prince apparently had a a wildly active libido in his 20s (as most males do).. so 1 would think that back then, when it came to sex Prince was more focused on "quantity" rather than "quality".. knowing full well that he could have - & usually did have - whatever woman he wanted..

whenever he wanted her.. where ever he wanted her..

so to "summarize" on this very hypothetical subject of which

99.999%

of us have absolutely no idea..

I'd think that "how good" Prince was perceived to be in bed

was directly related to

1) the notoriety/fame/"social status" of the woman involved

2) how "attractive" she found Prince to be

&

3) Prince's "motivation" to.. make that "good impression"..

I dont know if Prince is having sex or not but he knows how to make a girl cum with his hands. I saw him doing sexual hand movements in concert while he was performing one of his ballads and I was shocked!

I'm glad I have a small penis. Means, I got money.

diamond537 said:

I dont know if Prince is having sex or not but he knows how to make a girl cum with his hands. I saw him doing sexual hand movements in concert while he was performing one of his ballads and I was shocked!

did you know where you were going before that? kind of hard for Prince to shock most of us fans. What did he do? Like generic masturbatory movements? Anybody knows how women touch themselves.

SuperFurryAnimal said:

I'm glad I have a small penis. Means, I got money.

Genesia said:

rdhull said:

That puddy pat kiss is the business ..yall crazy.

[img:$uid]http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g216/rebecca8273/Kitty.png[/img:$uid]

That is looking REALLY sexy to me right now.

The real elephant in the room is how many of us have tried Prince sex moves with another person .... uh, huh...and how'd that work out for you?

Darling Nikki choereography has no real place in the bedroom is all I'm saying.

petes2 said:

diamond537 said:

I dont know if Prince is having sex or not but he knows how to make a girl cum with his hands. I saw him doing sexual hand movements in concert while he was performing one of his ballads and I was shocked!

did you know where you were going before that? kind of hard for Prince to shock most of us fans. What did he do? Like generic masturbatory movements? Anybody knows how women touch themselves.

Yes he was making hand movements that a female or a male assisting a female would do on their clit to make her aroused,wet and cum during one of his ballads.

treehouse said:

The real elephant in the room is how many of us have tried Prince sex moves with another person .... uh, huh...and how'd that work out for you?

Darling Nikki choereography has no real place in the bedroom is all I'm saying.

The only Prince "move" I did was put on the God 12 inch when I was getting ready to do it with my gf back ibn 86. It worked. Not sure putting on a record is considered a 'move' though. And the record had no influence of me getting some either.

diamond537 said:

petes2 said:

did you know where you were going before that? kind of hard for Prince to shock most of us fans. What did he do? Like generic masturbatory movements? Anybody knows how women touch themselves.

Yes he was making hand movements that a female or a male assisting a female would do on their clit to make her aroused,wet and cum during one of his ballads.

cool!

mltijchr said:

I would think that this whole "prince sex quality index" would be the same for the woman with him as it would be for anybody else..

meaning: if the woman who was with him at that particular time - "famous" or not - was really attracted to him, I'd think that she'd be happy just to be having sex with him. she might be thinking:

"wow, I am actually having sex with prince..!"

with that mere thought, though, she might be too distracted to really enjoy whatever they were doing at that moment.

maybe prince "gets over" by the fact he is who he is.. & maybe he thinks that he doesn't have to make a "big effort" or do that much.. unless he really wanted to make a "good impression" on the woman (going down on her until she orgasmed, kissing/sucking on her neck, whatever it is that totally turned her on..)

in a more general sense.. several women who've told me details about their sex life have said that quite a few men who "talk the talk" don't always "walk the walk"..

I know for me - the more "attractive" I found the woman to be

(who I was with at that time)

the more I thought the sex was good/mind-blowing.

in my mind, the sex was ALWAYS good when I found the woman to be attractive/desirable to me.

in her mind - & maybe she might have even told me - she might have thought something like

"well.. I really didn't do all that.. but if you enjoyed it that much.. cool!"

I don't recall even 2 or 3 occasions where I was only "moderately or minimally" attracted to a woman..

had sex with her..

& then thought afterwards.. "eh.. she was aaiiight.." (=average or below)

imagine a "typical female prince fan"

(IF such a thing exists)

& through (outrageous fortune?) she found herself having sex with prince..

1 would imagine just him getting undressed - or him actually undressing her - would be too much for the woman.. at that point she might not even know if prince actually put himself inside her

OR

was only using his thumb!

then (sidebar) I wonder if/how often prince would say to the woman - before "getting started" - something to the effect of "yeah, we're doing this now.. but don't kiss & tell, got it??"

were it a celebrity of some import.. he might not mind her talking about it after the fact..

but if it were "just a fan".. eh.. I don't know what he'd say

or if he'd even doing anything with her.

can you imagine.. a woman NOT finding prince "sexually attractive".. & then prince having to..

"work for it"??

ha ha ha..!

would prince be "that persistent" until he "wore the woman down" & she gave up & said, basically..

"oh.. ALRIGHT.. just DO IT & GET IT OVER WITH. I have to get up in the morning!"

(eh.. somewhat difficult to imagine this sort of scenario..)

if such a woman (& such a situatio) existed..

wouldn't she say - after the fact - something to the effect of "eh.. Prince was.. alright.."

also (lastly?) it's probably important to make the distinction between Prince when he 1st became known & the "prince" of today..

back then - 1976 through, let's say.. 1985-86? - people thought less & worried less about "safe sex" & all its (negative) implications..

plus, Prince apparently had a a wildly active libido in his 20s (as most males do).. so 1 would think that back then, when it came to sex Prince was more focused on "quantity" rather than "quality".. knowing full well that he could have - & usually did have - whatever woman he wanted..

whenever he wanted her.. where ever he wanted her..

so to "summarize" on this very hypothetical subject of which

99.999%

of us have absolutely no idea..

I'd think that "how good" Prince was perceived to be in bed

was directly related to

1) the notoriety/fame/"social status" of the woman involved

2) how "attractive" she found Prince to be

&

3) Prince's "motivation" to.. make that "good impression"..

WOW! You sure wrote a lot! Had a lot of time on your hands, huh?

Well, I've got a little time too, so --

yes, it's all hypothetical, and I guess just for fun to speculate; my guess is that he would be quite good in bed (if he were motivated to be, i.e. no hookers or "throwaways" but rather an actual girlfriend or something). This is based on hearing and noticing that big macho-ish good-looking guys think they just need to be there and thrust a lot and don't make much effort beyond that, but the little nerdy guys pay attention to learn more about the woman's body and have knowledge & skills to "compensate" for not being obviously attractive. Now he has fame and money, which would influence his partner to perceive him to be a good lay (one of the points you make in your essay), but back in the day he just had his musical ability. I think he developed a demeanor, and probably some sexual pleasuring skills, and other qualities to compensate for not being the obvious tall, dark and handsome guy growing up.

And I don't think that choreography or kissing done in front of a bunch of people & cameras are indicative of his true abilities. But hey, this is just a "do you think" thread for amusement, so whatever!

Dren5 said:

theonly4ever said:

what?

I meant: we don't care! He can be a sex-machine or not, we "only" get to listen to his music anyway... And even a woman or a man or a mirror tells me he's just meh, it would not change my love for him. I mean, his music.

No offense but honestly that just seemed like the ultimate stupid-as-fuck question to me.

No, I don't listen to his music because I think he's a good lay.

You're right, stupid question indeed.

Guess I was not in "normal" state..

artist76 said:

mltijchr said:

I would think that this whole "prince sex quality index" would be the same for the woman with him as it would be for anybody else..

meaning: if the woman who was with him at that particular time - "famous" or not - was really attracted to him, I'd think that she'd be happy just to be having sex with him. she might be thinking:

"wow, I am actually having sex with prince..!"

with that mere thought, though, she might be too distracted to really enjoy whatever they were doing at that moment.

maybe prince "gets over" by the fact he is who he is.. & maybe he thinks that he doesn't have to make a "big effort" or do that much.. unless he really wanted to make a "good impression" on the woman (going down on her until she orgasmed, kissing/sucking on her neck, whatever it is that totally turned her on..)

in a more general sense.. several women who've told me details about their sex life have said that quite a few men who "talk the talk" don't always "walk the walk"..

I know for me - the more "attractive" I found the woman to be

(who I was with at that time)

the more I thought the sex was good/mind-blowing.

in my mind, the sex was ALWAYS good when I found the woman to be attractive/desirable to me.

in her mind - & maybe she might have even told me - she might have thought something like

"well.. I really didn't do all that.. but if you enjoyed it that much.. cool!"

I don't recall even 2 or 3 occasions where I was only "moderately or minimally" attracted to a woman..

had sex with her..

& then thought afterwards.. "eh.. she was aaiiight.." (=average or below)

imagine a "typical female prince fan"

(IF such a thing exists)

& through (outrageous fortune?) she found herself having sex with prince..

1 would imagine just him getting undressed - or him actually undressing her - would be too much for the woman.. at that point she might not even know if prince actually put himself inside her

OR

was only using his thumb!

then (sidebar) I wonder if/how often prince would say to the woman - before "getting started" - something to the effect of "yeah, we're doing this now.. but don't kiss & tell, got it??"

were it a celebrity of some import.. he might not mind her talking about it after the fact..

but if it were "just a fan".. eh.. I don't know what he'd say

or if he'd even doing anything with her.

can you imagine.. a woman NOT finding prince "sexually attractive".. & then prince having to..

"work for it"??

ha ha ha..!

would prince be "that persistent" until he "wore the woman down" & she gave up & said, basically..

"oh.. ALRIGHT.. just DO IT & GET IT OVER WITH. I have to get up in the morning!"

(eh.. somewhat difficult to imagine this sort of scenario..)

if such a woman (& such a situatio) existed..

wouldn't she say - after the fact - something to the effect of "eh.. Prince was.. alright.."

also (lastly?) it's probably important to make the distinction between Prince when he 1st became known & the "prince" of today..

back then - 1976 through, let's say.. 1985-86? - people thought less & worried less about "safe sex" & all its (negative) implications..

plus, Prince apparently had a a wildly active libido in his 20s (as most males do).. so 1 would think that back then, when it came to sex Prince was more focused on "quantity" rather than "quality".. knowing full well that he could have - & usually did have - whatever woman he wanted..

whenever he wanted her.. where ever he wanted her..

so to "summarize" on this very hypothetical subject of which

99.999%

of us have absolutely no idea..

I'd think that "how good" Prince was perceived to be in bed

was directly related to

1) the notoriety/fame/"social status" of the woman involved

2) how "attractive" she found Prince to be

&

3) Prince's "motivation" to.. make that "good impression"..

WOW! You sure wrote a lot! Had a lot of time on your hands, huh?

Well, I've got a little time too, so --

yes, it's all hypothetical, and I guess just for fun to speculate; my guess is that he would be quite good in bed (if he were motivated to be, i.e. no hookers or "throwaways" but rather an actual girlfriend or something). This is based on hearing and noticing that big macho-ish good-looking guys think they just need to be there and thrust a lot and don't make much effort beyond that, but the little nerdy guys pay attention to learn more about the woman's body and have knowledge & skills to "compensate" for not being obviously attractive. Now he has fame and money, which would influence his partner to perceive him to be a good lay (one of the points you make in your essay), but back in the day he just had his musical ability. I think he developed a demeanor, and probably some sexual pleasuring skills, and other qualities to compensate for not being the obvious tall, dark and handsome guy growing up.

And I don't think that choreography or kissing done in front of a bunch of people & cameras are indicative of his true abilities. But hey, this is just a "do you think" thread for amusement, so whatever!

artist76..

I am alternately very quiet or extremely verbose..!

this happened to be 1 time when I was.. "more verbose"!

(I type rather quickly, too..)

he might well have - as you mentioned - developed "some skills" in that area..

but all the while.. he was (& is) still "prince"..

eh.. I think if I were someone "famous" like Prince

it would be hard for me

(pun intended)

to make the effort to please a particular woman - even if I was really attracted to her - knowing that I could have basically any woman that I wanted..

I still believe that a person - most people - would perceive to be having a better intimate/sexual experience if they found themselves really attracted to the person they were with..

whether the partner was actually.. "proficient" or not..

*reads the above post and all the quotes inside it*

...Or, maybe Prince actually is a good lay and likes sex and so he likes to mention both of those in his music?

It seems odd to me that so many people here are so determined to believe that Prince can't fuck that they spend so much brainpower and energy thinking up all these theories and reasons why he simply has to be all talk.

Maybe it's because of jealousy to a certain extent - like, how dare he be attractive, smart, that talented and a good lay?

This stuff really isn't any different from a pack of catty women looking for a flaw on a hot girl.

Dren5 said:

*reads the above post and all the quotes inside it*

...Or, maybe Prince actually is a good lay and likes sex and so he likes to mention both of those in his music?

It seems odd to me that so many people here are so determined to believe that Prince can't fuck that they spend so much brainpower and energy thinking up all these theories and reasons why he simply has to be all talk.

Maybe it's because of jealousy to a certain extent - like, how dare he be attractive, smart, that talented and a good lay?

This stuff really isn't any different from a pack of catty women looking for a flaw on a hot girl.

There will never be a definitive answer to the question of Prince's sexual abilities.

Like I wrote earlier, it could go either way. Both of his exes (wives, that is) rebound with men who were known for the sexual exploits. Again, that could be interpret as Prince was a excellent lover and they were attempting to "stay in that lane" or he was an awful lover and they sought out men who could fill the void. Now, for the infamous Anna Stasia? article, maybe he was this tremendously romantic, gentle lover. Again, we don't know.

I don't think that people would want a man who is so associated with orgasms to be lackluster in bed.

Regardless, let's not make this topic, that is so clearly for entertainment purposes, into a debate.

mltijchr said:

artist76 said:

WOW! You sure wrote a lot! Had a lot of time on your hands, huh?

Well, I've got a little time too, so --

yes, it's all hypothetical, and I guess just for fun to speculate; my guess is that he would be quite good in bed (if he were motivated to be, i.e. no hookers or "throwaways" but rather an actual girlfriend or something). This is based on hearing and noticing that big macho-ish good-looking guys think they just need to be there and thrust a lot and don't make much effort beyond that, but the little nerdy guys pay attention to learn more about the woman's body and have knowledge & skills to "compensate" for not being obviously attractive. Now he has fame and money, which would influence his partner to perceive him to be a good lay (one of the points you make in your essay), but back in the day he just had his musical ability. I think he developed a demeanor, and probably some sexual pleasuring skills, and other qualities to compensate for not being the obvious tall, dark and handsome guy growing up.

And I don't think that choreography or kissing done in front of a bunch of people & cameras are indicative of his true abilities. But hey, this is just a "do you think" thread for amusement, so whatever!

artist76..

I am alternately very quiet or extremely verbose..!

this happened to be 1 time when I was.. "more verbose"!

(I type rather quickly, too..)

he might well have - as you mentioned - developed "some skills" in that area..

but all the while.. he was (& is) still "prince"..

eh.. I think if I were someone "famous" like Prince

it would be hard for me

(pun intended)

to make the effort to please a particular woman - even if I was really attracted to her - knowing that I could have basically any woman that I wanted..

I still believe that a person - most people - would perceive to be having a better intimate/sexual experience if they found themselves really attracted to the person they were with..

whether the partner was actually.. "proficient" or not..

OK, I'll waste a few more brain cells on this one, even tho' I've got a PTA luncheon to set up soon--

We both seem to agree that a man who thinks he can get anybody he wants tends not to make an effort. I said basically the same thing in my 1st response. But maybe we differ in our opinion of how much of a studmuffin he was in his earlier days. I don't think he's that attractive, physically (demeanor, swagger, talent, status -- these things make him "attractive" now, of course). And I'm highly suspect of all the people on here who'd say they would have done him in high school. Seriously? Nah... I think he was savvy about building himself up in other ways to compensate for his shortcomings, if you will. His songs indicate that he was observant (I'd like to watch, can I watch, etc.) and tried to be more in tune with the woman (we're assuming he's straight - some here will disagree), which would make him quite good. But yes, when he can get any woman he wants, and in his heyday and his 20s I'm sure it was about quantity, conquest and stress-reliever/way-to-wind-down-after-a-concert. That's why it doesn't matter if a prostitute or random groupie says he wasn't good - he didn't care about that piece of ass! But if he wanted to, I think he'd have skills. To answer the OP's question, who's come out and said Prince was good - There was an interview with Anna Fantastic in which she said he was really good and slow, they made love all night when she turned 18, and she also mentions a coat of pink cashmere and that he dropped her because she posed for Playboy. So despite his moves on film and on stage, I think Prince is probably a good lay.

And with that, I'm off to the PTA!

i think he must be good!