NeonCraxx said:

ludwig said:

The bootleggers give me what I want.

Prince gives me ..... a coffe table book.

You didnt have to buy it.

Did he say he did?

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Did he say he did?

Do I care if he said he did? Sheesh.

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irinact said:

I'm against bootlegs because it that would be OK, then the demand for bootleg market will grow a lot and the quality will improve aslo.

For those people who saying that if it not for bootlegs they would never discover some records. That is not a good excuse, because when you want to buy legit albums, there is always samples that you can listen to.

As for keeping his legacy, he propbably has people who makes videos of his shows, same thinh with records. He just doesn't want to release them yet for his personal reasons.

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Sorry mate I don't agree with this.

Bootlegs and even Pirated music available on the net helps in understanding and learning about an artist.

I have become a huge Miles Davis fan due to the fact of me obtaining his discography of over 100 albums. I have since gone to read his autobiography, buy many of his albums on CD and even gone and spent a great deal of cash on Bitches Brew Vinyl special editions as well as Kind Of Blue.

So what do you mean about not a good excuse. Some of us are not millionaires who can go and buy 100 Miles Davis records. When you get to a stage where your music intrests are quite vast it is actually impossible to buy exverthing you like.

Getting back to the point. If Prince is not releasing live material then it is his fault im sorry. We are Prince fans and we want to watch, listen to his recordings. Not all of us can leave our lives and travel to places like Montreux etc. I am in Australia, Prince has not come here since 2003 which I was front row centre. I have bought all his legit releases. The live gigs that I want to see of his are not being released. So you have to resort to downloading bootlegs.

Im not sure I understand what you mean by when you want to buy leigit albums there are always samples to listen too.

What do you want us Prince fans to do. Ohh no I forbid myself from listening to any of Princes live material or recordings that he has not released yet. If I accidently listen to it then I must run to the confession box and beg for forgiveness.

Pfft.

NeonCraxx said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Did he say he did?

Do I care if he said he did? Sheesh.

[Edited 1/18/12 17:55pm]

You must've because you were the one that brought up him buying something.

alexnvrmnd777 said:

NeonCraxx said:

Do I care if he said he did? Sheesh.

[Edited 1/18/12 17:55pm]

You must've because you were the one that brought up him buying something.

He/she implied that Prince gave us fans "a coffee table book" when in fact Prince didn't.

Prince didn't give me a book. I paid for it.

I reminded this person that if he's unappreciative about this so called "coffee table book" (especially when there is a whole friggin music video chuck full of pictures from the book) then he didn't have to buy it.

ludwig said:

The bootleggers give me what I want.

Prince gives me ..... a coffe table book.

HAHAHAHA defintiely quote of the year! This pretty much sums it all up both metaphorically and literally - brilliant!

I was JUST having this conversation:

I recognize it's a problem to expect art/music for free. It's worth something and nothing will be created if it's free because artists gotta eat

That said - prince boots don't impact Prince negatively at all. (1) Only the hard-core know where to even look to download the free boots, and so (2) any release by prince that contains previously bootlegged material will be (a) bought by the masses (if it doesn't suck) and bought by the hard-core who want a glossy/revised/officially released version. Finally, (3) aside from a couple trax - we can be fairly certain prince aint releasing his bootlegged material, especially his videos.

The one argument I can see is w/ his outtakes and demos (my favorite gems). He views these probably as little baby's, or seeds, that grow and mature and need "marinating" before they are ready for release. I can see him drawing upon his vault for ideas for new, combined, songs. Example: using the guitar riff from unreleased Rave in his song "The Max." He may, fairly, not want people knowing there was an entire song that's behind one bass-line or guitar riff

where to even look

APNewsBreak: Feds shut down file-sharing website

Photo: AP

Photo by AP

[Edited 1/19/12 13:52pm]

^^ Yeah, that's a shame, however, there are plenty of others.

oh wow, i loved MU ;(... so sad to hear

:/

TheDigitalGardener said:

^^ Yeah, that's a shame, however, there are plenty of others.

Others, including Mediafire, are targeted as well...

purplethunder3121 said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

^^ Yeah, that's a shame, however, there are plenty of others.

Others, including Mediafire, are targeted as well...

Wow, crackdown!

TheDigitalGardener said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Others, including Mediafire, are targeted as well...

Wow, crackdown!

The feds are out for blood this time!

R.I.P. Megaupload, loved this site. Ahhh well, there are so many alternatives out there. In the context of P though all he has to do is give us what we want and we'd [mostly] happily pay- it really is as frickin' simple as that.

TheDigitalGardener said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Others, including Mediafire, are targeted as well...

Wow, crackdown!

Mediafire's my shit, though. They allowed simultaneous downloading, so ALWAYS use that shit. Here's hoping they stop at MU.

Anonymous says it attacks DOJ site after feds shut down piracy hub Megaupload

By Laurie Segall @CNNMoneyTech January 19, 2012: 6:13 PM ET

AND THE BACKLASH HAS BEGUN LOL

Grow the fuck up. This is not a game. You like seeing artists who rely on people buying their music for their livelihoods being treated like this?

Watch this video:

http://www.ted.com/talks/..._idea.html

Wikipedia protest hits home: U.S. senators withdraw support for anti-piracy bills as 4.5 million sign petition against bill

Thanks Megaupload. Was fun while it lasted. Amazed you got away with it for so long.

funkyhead said:

R.I.P. Megaupload, loved this site. Ahhh well, there are so many alternatives out there. In the context of P though all he has to do is give us what we want and we'd [mostly] happily pay- it really is as frickin' simple as that.

Yes there are, but I don't think any of them offer link life or multi GB storage like MU did. I think MU was one of the only file sharing sites to offer links that would last indefinitely. Most of the other file sharing sites' links have a short life span then they go dead.

alexnvrmnd777 said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

Wow, crackdown!

Mediafire's my shit, though. They allowed simultaneous downloading, so ALWAYS use that shit. Here's hoping they stop at MU.

MU offered this too with premium accounts and for free if one downloaded their "Media Manager."

Let's not forget, it's not only "bootleggers" who will lose out by MU (and possibly others) closing. A lot of people also use file sharing sites to move and share legitimate files, documents etc. These sites are not used exclusively by people moving around unofficial media.

TheDigitalGardener said:

Let's not forget, it's not only "bootleggers" who will lose out by MU (and possibly others) closing. A lot of people also use file sharing sites to move and share legitimate files, documents etc. These sites are not used exclusively by people moving around unofficial media.

So now those people will have to use legit ways like emailing files directly to the recipient ?

PANDURITO said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

Let's not forget, it's not only "bootleggers" who will lose out by MU (and possibly others) closing. A lot of people also use file sharing sites to move and share legitimate files, documents etc. These sites are not used exclusively by people moving around unofficial media.

So now those people will have to use legit ways like emailing files directly to the recipient ?

Begs the question as to why they used MU for things like that in the first place. Pdf's and shit. Yeah. I don't know too much about that, I have only ever used it for down and uploading music/video.

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PANDURITO said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

Let's not forget, it's not only "bootleggers" who will lose out by MU (and possibly others) closing. A lot of people also use file sharing sites to move and share legitimate files, documents etc. These sites are not used exclusively by people moving around unofficial media.

So now those people will have to use legit ways like emailing files directly to the recipient ?

you mean legit people with legit files?

if all the file transfer sites closed then i think people would go back to doing what they did before and using personal webspace, ftp, direct p2p from messenger programs, not email due to mailbox limitations unless files were small

^ and how about snail mail?

Damn, I really miss those days.

vc40 said:

^ and how about snail mail?

Damn, I really miss those days.

It could be quite exciting, because the anticipation built up as you were waiting on your letterbox to rattle.

vc40 said:

^ and how about snail mail?

Damn, I really miss those days.

ah, packets of unsolicited bootlegs from ireland