smoothcriminal12 said:

Who is:

more talented

a better live performer

better singer

better songwriter

better musician

(who has) better albums

(who has) better songs

overall artist.

Now PLEASE: no stans. If you are going to contribute to this discussion please have something to say. None of this Prince is music crap.

For fun, let's also compare albums one by one

Faith vs. Sign O The Times

Listen Without Prejudice Vol. 1 vs. Graffiti Bridge

Older vs. Chaos and Disorder

Songs From The Last Century vs. Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic

Patience vs. Musicology

Go!

I will start off by saying it practically impossible for any known musical artist to top Prince. That is beacuse he covers so much territory by himself and is able to do so , so sucessfully. He is in most ways really in a category all his own. That is not to say other that other artists are not "as good" as him, because in the end, its songs and performance of them that matters the most. But in terms of pure capability and accomplishment, Prince is almost impossible to beat.

More talented?

George is a good looking and incredibly gifted songwriter, singer and musician. But Prince is more than that.

A better live performer?

Prince by a landslide

Better singer?

They are very different singers.

Prince is perhaps a better singer, technically, in that he has more range and diversity. But, the velvety signiture tone with which George sings, Prince could never replicate. So that may balance the scales.

Truthfully, both of them have been extremely influential on other singers in the past 20 years. I think I'd say though that George's influence, edges out Prince's, especially in R&B, but George never gets the credit that he deserves for it.

Better songwriter?

This is where the meat and potatoes of the competion between these two, is. It would take 40 pages to really get into it, but basically, both of them posesses songwriting skills that the other doesnt have.

Prince could never write a jazz/bossa nova like "Cowboys and Angels" and George Michael could never write a rock song like, "Bambi".

Both are fantastic songwriters, both have a fine ear for pop music and both can unquestionably bring the funk.

The main difference between them lies in that Prince's best songwriting is prone to being eccentric and playful, either lyrically or musically, which in turn, makes it more innovative. George's best songwriting on the other hand, is often more sensitive, subtler and mature, which in turn makes it more adult.

This difference is also reflected in their style of production.

In the end, both compliment each others styles really well.

Better musician

Probably Prince, being great guitar player as well as a multi-instrumentalist. But,...what people dont often know about George is that he too is a multi-instrumentalist like Prince. Although he does not play it up.

George is actually a really good bass player and has played on most of his hits. He also plays keyboards and drums and acoustic guitar.

And like Prince, George is an excellent drum machine programmer.

(Who has) better albums?

You cant really compare. They both very distinctive artists. Both make world class pop albums (or at least, did), but they make different kinds.

There is nothing in Prince's album catalog that sounds anything like Listen Without Prejudice Vol.I or Older.

There is nothing in George's album catalog that sounds anything like Dirty Mind or Purple Rain.

It would be senseless to compare albums.

Songs, yes. But not albums.

Overall artist.

(See top comment)

[Edited 8/10/11 3:26am]

They can both bring the funk?!?! hahah

so ur saying they equally funky?

Prince's funk is on a level where the big boys of funk hang -> James, George Clinton, Stevie, Cameo, actually the real black funk, no offense.

George Michael is poppy r&b with some funky flavours, like a lot of other 80s acts. Even Madonna had funky stuff or Duran Duran.

thedance said:

Who is "best"? PRINCE is, that's easy.....

... just ask Rolling Stone,

Prince is usually on those lists they make, the 50 immortal artists etc....

George Michael is not there.

(I think Rolling Stone is credible here, don't you?!)...

No.

sexyfunkystrange said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Who is:

more talented

a better live performer

better singer

better songwriter

better musician

(who has) better albums

(who has) better songs

overall artist.

Now PLEASE: no stans. If you are going to contribute to this discussion please have something to say. None of this Prince is music crap.

For fun, let's also compare albums one by one

Faith vs. Sign O The Times

Listen Without Prejudice Vol. 1 vs. Graffiti Bridge

Older vs. Chaos and Disorder

Songs From The Last Century vs. Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic

Patience vs. Musicology

Go!

I will start off by saying it practically impossible for any known musical artist to top Prince. That is beacuse he covers so much territory by himself and is able to do so , so sucessfully. He is in most ways really in a category all his own. That is not to say other that other artists are not "as good" as him, because in the end, its songs and performance of them that matters the most. But in terms of pure capability and accomplishment, Prince is almost impossible to beat.

More talented?

George is a good looking and incredibly gifted songwriter, singer and musician. But Prince is more than that.

A better live performer?

Prince by a landslide

Better singer?

They are very different singers.

Prince is perhaps a better singer, technically, in that he has more range and diversity. But, the velvety signiture tone with which George sings, Prince could never replicate. So that may balance the scales.

Truthfully, both of them have been extremely influential on other singers in the past 20 years. I think I'd say though that George's influence, edges out Prince's, especially in R&B, but George never gets the credit that he deserves for it.

Better songwriter?

This is where the meat and potatoes of the competion between these two, is. It would take 40 pages to really get into it, but basically, both of them posesses songwriting skills that the other doesnt have.

Prince could never write a jazz/bossa nova like "Cowboys and Angels" and George Michael could never write a rock song like, "Bambi".

Both are fantastic songwriters, both have a fine ear for pop music and both can unquestionably bring the funk.

The main difference between them lies in that Prince's best songwriting is prone to being eccentric and playful, either lyrically or musically, which in turn, makes it more innovative. George's best songwriting on the other hand, is often more sensitive, subtler and mature, which in turn makes it more adult.

This difference is also reflected in their style of production.

In the end, both compliment each others styles really well.

Better musician

Probably Prince, being great guitar player as well as a multi-instrumentalist. But,...what people dont often know about George is that he too is a multi-instrumentalist like Prince. Although he does not play it up.

George is actually a really good bass player and has played on most of his hits. He also plays keyboards and drums and acoustic guitar.

And like Prince, George is an excellent drum machine programmer.

(Who has) better albums?

You cant really compare. They both very distinctive artists. Both make world class pop albums (or at least, did), but they make different kinds.

There is nothing in Prince's album catalog that sounds anything like Listen Without Prejudice Vol.I or Older.

There is nothing in George's album catalog that sounds anything like Dirty Mind or Purple Rain.

It would be senseless to compare albums.

Songs, yes. But not albums.

Overall artist.

(See top comment)

[Edited 8/10/11 3:26am]

Right on!

They can both bring the funk?!?! hahah so ur saying they equally funky? Prince's funk is on a level where the big boys of funk hang -> James, George Clinton, Stevie, Cameo, actually the real black funk, no offense. George Michael is poppy r&b with some funky flavours, like a lot of other 80s acts. Even Madonna had funky stuff or Duran Duran.

That's offensive to James, George Clinton, Stevie, and Cameo.

[Edited 8/10/11 4:13am]

So you think P is not on the level of James, Stevie, George?

SpookyElektrix said:

So you think P is not on the level of James, Stevie, George?

I don't think he can funk as hard as them.

smoothcriminal12 said:

SpookyElektrix said:

So you think P is not on the level of James, Stevie, George?

I don't think he can funk as hard as them.

okay, you dont know what funk is, now i understand.

If theres artists that are always associated with the word Funk its always James, George and Prince.

SpookyElektrix said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

I don't think he can funk as hard as them.

okay, you dont know what funk is, now i understand.

If theres artists that are always associated with the word Funk its always James, George and Prince.

No, you are just uneducated in your funk if you really think Prince is in the same league as James or George. Go get educated.

thedance said:

here's the list,

[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/ecnirp2004/RSImmortals-1.jpg[/img:$uid]

RS's 50 Immortals:

1) The Beatles

2) Bob Dylan

3) Elvis Presley

4) The Rolling Stones

5) Chuck Berry
6) Jimi Hendrix

7) James Brown

8) Little Richard
9) Aretha Franklin

10) Ray Charles
11) Bob Marley
12) The Beach Boys
13) Buddy Holly

14) Led Zeppelin
15) Stevie Wonder
16) Sam Cooke
17) Muddy Watters
18) Marvin Gaye
19) The Velvet Underground
20) Bo Diddley
21) Otis Redding
22) U2

23) Bruce Springsteen

24) Jerry Lee Lewis

25) Fats Domino

26) The Ramones

27) Nirvana

28) Prince

29) The Who

30) The Clash

31) Johnny Cash
32) Smokey Robinson and the Miracles

33) The Everly Brothers
34) Neil Young

35) Michael Jackson
36) Madonna

37) Roy Orbison
38) John Lennon

39) David Bowie
40) Simon and Garfunkel

41) The Doors

42) Van Morrison

43) Sly and the Family Stone

44) Public Enemy

45) The Byrds

46) Janis Joplin

47) Patti Smith
48) Run-DMC

49) Elton John
50) The Band

No George M on this list

[Edited 8/10/11 2:14am]

You know, it's cute to put some of these oldies above Prince for sentimental reasons, But Nirvana? And Prince it's not like Prince is that far removed from the earlier acts.

I like Nirvana, I love Nirvana, but above Prince?

It's all subjective yada yada..... but I do not think any of the bolded above deserve to be above Prince. Buddy Holly? The Beach Boys? C'mon

Prince jumped above most of these acts a long long time ago.

rant over.

[Edited 8/10/11 5:37am]

smoothcriminal12 said:

SpookyElektrix said:

okay, you dont know what funk is, now i understand.

If theres artists that are always associated with the word Funk its always James, George and Prince.

No, you are just uneducated in your funk if you really think Prince is in the same league as James or George. Go get educated.

its not about education, its about feelin the funk.

george and james were pioneers i know that. But Prince can Funk harder then both of them on an instrument. Plus he made a new type of funk for the 80s and kept the funk alive in that era.

But if you think and feel GM is in the same league as P, well...

I really don't give a shit about GM's music. It sounds like cheap radio friendly little pop tunes to my ears. I do not hear anything close to greatness in his music.

Having said that, I love his voice. He has a wonderful voice.

SpookyElektrix said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

No, you are just uneducated in your funk if you really think Prince is in the same league as James or George. Go get educated.

its not about education, its about feelin the funk.

george and james were pioneers i know that. But Prince can Funk harder then both of them on an instrument. Plus he made a new type of funk for the 80s and kept the funk alive in that era.

But if you think and feel GM is in the same league as P, well...

This "feeling the funk" crap to me is some BS. It's nice and all, and I love funk, but truth is truth no matter what.

Firsty off, I am not the one who said P is in the same league as George, so let's get that straight. Secondly, who the hell cares what Prince can do on a stupid instrument? George, P, Sly, and all of the pioneers can outfunk P any day. And P knows it. The Minneapolis sound was not just strictly funk. It was a hybrid mix. He didn't exactly keep the funk alive as many fans claim. The funk was not dying.

Tell me, can P funk harder than this?:

I'll be waiting.

smoothcriminal12 said:

SpookyElektrix said:

its not about education, its about feelin the funk.

george and james were pioneers i know that. But Prince can Funk harder then both of them on an instrument. Plus he made a new type of funk for the 80s and kept the funk alive in that era.

But if you think and feel GM is in the same league as P, well...

This "feeling the funk" crap to me is some BS. It's nice and all, and I love funk, but truth is truth no matter what.

Firsty off, I am not the one who said P is in the same league as George, so let's get that straight. Secondly, who the hell cares what Prince can do on a stupid instrument? George, P, Sly, and all of the pioneers can outfunk P any day. And P knows it. The Minneapolis sound was not just strictly funk. It was a hybrid mix. He didn't exactly keep the funk alive as many fans claim. The funk was not dying.

Tell me, can P funk harder than this?:

I'll be waiting.

I just said Prince can hang with those Artists (theyre the best) and also on that level. I did not say Funk was dying, i said he came with a different flavour. Just how George Clinton came with a different funk flavour. Yeah this feelin the funk is BS to you cuz u dont feel it. And what he can do on this stupid instrument?? Whattt?? Without good instrumentalists there never gonna be good funk! JB, GC, Cameo, Stevie are all or have the best instrumentalists in the world so it does matters and i care! U think GM is just as funky as P, then ur def not feelin it. Even George Clinton will smack u for sayin or even thinking that.

sexyfunkystrange said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Who is:

more talented

a better live performer

better singer

better songwriter

better musician

(who has) better albums

(who has) better songs

overall artist.

Now PLEASE: no stans. If you are going to contribute to this discussion please have something to say. None of this Prince is music crap.

For fun, let's also compare albums one by one

Faith vs. Sign O The Times

Listen Without Prejudice Vol. 1 vs. Graffiti Bridge

Older vs. Chaos and Disorder

Songs From The Last Century vs. Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic

Patience vs. Musicology

Go!

I will start off by saying it practically impossible for any known musical artist to top Prince. That is beacuse he covers so much territory by himself and is able to do so , so sucessfully. He is in most ways really in a category all his own. That is not to say other that other artists are not "as good" as him, because in the end, its songs and performance of them that matters the most. But in terms of pure capability and accomplishment, Prince is almost impossible to beat.

More talented?

George is a good looking and incredibly gifted songwriter, singer and musician. But Prince is more than that.

A better live performer?

Prince by a landslide

Better singer?

They are very different singers.

Prince is perhaps a better singer, technically, in that he has more range and diversity. But, the velvety signiture tone with which George sings, Prince could never replicate. So that may balance the scales.

Truthfully, both of them have been extremely influential on other singers in the past 20 years. I think I'd say though that George's influence, edges out Prince's, especially in R&B, but George never gets the credit that he deserves for it.

Better songwriter?

This is where the meat and potatoes of the competion between these two, is. It would take 40 pages to really get into it, but basically, both of them posesses songwriting skills that the other doesnt have.

Prince could never write a jazz/bossa nova like "Cowboys and Angels" and George Michael could never write a rock song like, "Bambi".

Both are fantastic songwriters, both have a fine ear for pop music and both can unquestionably bring the funk.

The main difference between them lies in that Prince's best songwriting is prone to being eccentric and playful, either lyrically or musically, which in turn, makes it more innovative. George's best songwriting on the other hand, is often more sensitive, subtler and mature, which in turn makes it more adult.

This difference is also reflected in their style of production.

In the end, both compliment each others styles really well.

Better musician

Probably Prince, being great guitar player as well as a multi-instrumentalist. But,...what people dont often know about George is that he too is a multi-instrumentalist like Prince. Although he does not play it up.

George is actually a really good bass player and has played on most of his hits. He also plays keyboards and drums and acoustic guitar.

And like Prince, George is an excellent drum machine programmer.

(Who has) better albums?

You cant really compare. They both very distinctive artists. Both make world class pop albums (or at least, did), but they make different kinds.

There is nothing in Prince's album catalog that sounds anything like Listen Without Prejudice Vol.I or Older.

There is nothing in George's album catalog that sounds anything like Dirty Mind or Purple Rain.

It would be senseless to compare albums.

Songs, yes. But not albums.

Overall artist.

(See top comment)

[Edited 8/10/11 3:26am]

What I wrote here is that both Prince and George could bring the funk.

And they can.

Too what degree one is "funkier" over the other isnt the point. It was a general observation.

No of course George Michael isnt Cameo or Parlament, but he aint exactly Madonna/ Duran Duran pop-funk either.

For starters, George Michael plays slap bass...which instantly seperates him from other "pop" artists.

Second neither Madonna nor Duran Duran nor any other big anglo pop act of that generation, ever recorded anything as funky as "Young Guns", or as sexually funky as "Freeek" or "Too Funky".

SpookyElektrix said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

This "feeling the funk" crap to me is some BS. It's nice and all, and I love funk, but truth is truth no matter what.

Firsty off, I am not the one who said P is in the same league as George, so let's get that straight. Secondly, who the hell cares what Prince can do on a stupid instrument? George, P, Sly, and all of the pioneers can outfunk P any day. And P knows it. The Minneapolis sound was not just strictly funk. It was a hybrid mix. He didn't exactly keep the funk alive as many fans claim. The funk was not dying.

Tell me, can P funk harder than this?:

I'll be waiting.

I just said Prince can hang with those Artists (theyre the best) and also on that level.

Well I disagree.

I did not say Funk was dying, i said he came with a different flavour.

No, you said he kept the funk alive. Which isn't true.

Just how George Clinton came with a different funk flavour.

Well you could have said that, right?

Yeah this feelin the funk is BS to you cuz u dont feel it.

It's BS because it is. Funk has history. The funk is more than just a groove you feel. That's why it's BS.

And what he can do on this stupid instrument?? Whattt?? Without good instrumentalists there never gonna be good funk!

But, in the end, an instrument is one aspect to the greater picture, and his aspect pales in comparison.

JB, GC, Cameo, Stevie are all or have the best instrumentalists in the world so it does matters and i care!

What they do with the instruments matters.

U think GM is just as funky as P, then ur def not feelin it. Even George Clinton will smack u for sayin or even thinking that.

Learn to read, I never said George was as funky as P. I said that P wasn't on the same level as the all time greats.

I'm still waiting for your example.

smoothcriminal12 said:

SpookyElektrix said:

I just said Prince can hang with those Artists (theyre the best) and also on that level.

Well I disagree.

I did not say Funk was dying, i said he came with a different flavour.

No, you said he kept the funk alive. Which isn't true.

Just how George Clinton came with a different funk flavour.

Well you could have said that, right?

Yeah this feelin the funk is BS to you cuz u dont feel it.

It's BS because it is. Funk has history. The funk is more than just a groove you feel. That's why it's BS.

And what he can do on this stupid instrument?? Whattt?? Without good instrumentalists there never gonna be good funk!

But, in the end, an instrument is one aspect to the greater picture, and his aspect pales in comparison.

JB, GC, Cameo, Stevie are all or have the best instrumentalists in the world so it does matters and i care!

What they do with the instruments matters.

U think GM is just as funky as P, then ur def not feelin it. Even George Clinton will smack u for sayin or even thinking that.

Learn to read, I never said George was as funky as P. I said that P wasn't on the same level as the all time greats.

I'm still waiting for your example.

What they do on instruments matter indeed! So what P does/did on instruments is shit??

I learned how to read, you said Right on and amen to the one who said that, so u agreed.

Find best funk artists ever on google and every link shows prince in the top 10 or 20. find the word funk on wikipedia-> 4 pictures shown: P, GC, JB and SS.

Examples: ur example was great! Love that, but something like Lets Work, Get it up, Controversy, We can funk, Sexy Dancer, Jerk Out and more is also funky in a different style.

SpookyElektrix said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

What they do on instruments matter indeed! So what P does/did on instruments is shit??

What they do with it is fine, it's what they do with it to make it funky is important.

I learned how to read, you said Right on and amen to the one who said that, so u agreed.

Lol, the person said that both were funky, not that one was funkier than the other.

Find best funk artists ever on google and every link shows prince in the top 10 or 20. find the word funk on wikipedia-> 4 pictures shown: P, GC, JB and SS.

Ok, so I'm gonna go by random lists on the internet and an random pictures on Wikiprfis. Yeah, right.

Examples: ur example was great! Love that, but something like Lets Work, Get it up, Controversy, We can funk, Sexy Dancer, Jerk Out and more is also funky in a different style.

Those songs are funky, but I don't think that they are better than Thank You For Talking To Me Africa. It's all subjective, though.

smoothcriminal12 said:

SpookyElektrix said:

What they do on instruments matter indeed! So what P does/did on instruments is shit??

What they do with it is fine, it's what they do with it to make it funky is important.

I learned how to read, you said Right on and amen to the one who said that, so u agreed.

Lol, the person said that both were funky, not that one was funkier than the other.

Find best funk artists ever on google and every link shows prince in the top 10 or 20. find the word funk on wikipedia-> 4 pictures shown: P, GC, JB and SS.

Ok, so I'm gonna go by random lists on the internet and an random pictures on Wikiprfis. Yeah, right.

Examples: ur example was great! Love that, but something like Lets Work, Get it up, Controversy, We can funk, Sexy Dancer, Jerk Out and more is also funky in a different style.

Those songs are funky, but I don't think that they are better than Thank You For Talking To Me Africa. It's all subjective, though.

Well P can funk on those instruments. Im sure he can play just as funky as Bernie worrel, Larry Graham or JBs guitarist on the synth, bass and guitar.

It was said like GM and P should be considered somewhat equally funky. On funk u just cant compare those 2. And i still think P should be up there with SS, JB, Stevie and GC.

Just wanted to show u with the wikipedia an google links that P is considered a major Funk artist in general just like the other greats.

Thats true, its about personal taste.

SpookyElektrix said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Well P can funk on those instruments. Im sure he can play just as funky as Bernie worrel, Larry Graham or JBs guitarist on the synth, bass and guitar.

I disagree. But oh well.

It was said like GM and P should be considered somewhat equally funky. On funk u just cant compare those 2. And i still think P should be up there with SS, JB, Stevie and GC.

P should most definitely not be up there with the greatest of all time.

Just wanted to show u with the wikipedia an google links that P is considered a major Funk artist in general just like the other greats.

So? Who cares Wikipedia thinks? The reason P's picture was put up there is because the Minneapolis sound was huge in the 80's - not because he is on the same level as the greats. Prince is up there, but he isn't up THERE.

Thats true, its about personal taste.

smoothcriminal12 said:

SpookyElektrix said:

Well P can funk on those instruments. Im sure he can play just as funky as Bernie worrel, Larry Graham or JBs guitarist on the synth, bass and guitar.

I disagree. But oh well.

It was said like GM and P should be considered somewhat equally funky. On funk u just cant compare those 2. And i still think P should be up there with SS, JB, Stevie and GC.

P should most definitely not be up there with the greatest of all time.

Just wanted to show u with the wikipedia an google links that P is considered a major Funk artist in general just like the other greats.

So? Who cares Wikipedia thinks? The reason P's picture was put up there is because the Minneapolis sound was huge in the 80's - not because he is on the same level as the greats. Prince is up there, but he isn't up THERE.

Thats true, its about personal taste.

If u play an instrument and seen those musicians and prince play those instruments live, you must agree with me or else ur just talking some BS.

I think as an artist, producer, musician and influence he is up THERE.

smoothcriminal12 said:

SpookyElektrix said:

Well P can funk on those instruments. Im sure he can play just as funky as Bernie worrel, Larry Graham or JBs guitarist on the synth, bass and guitar.

I disagree. But oh well.

It was said like GM and P should be considered somewhat equally funky. On funk u just cant compare those 2. And i still think P should be up there with SS, JB, Stevie and GC.

P should most definitely not be up there with the greatest of all time.

Just wanted to show u with the wikipedia an google links that P is considered a major Funk artist in general just like the other greats.

So? Who cares Wikipedia thinks? The reason P's picture was put up there is because the Minneapolis sound was huge in the 80's - not because he is on the same level as the greats. Prince is up there, but he isn't up THERE.

Thats true, its about personal taste.

You're a joke, man. Prince is one the greatest musicians of the last 50 years or so. His skills are simply amazing. You clearly do not play any instrument at a serious level to talk BS like that. You're talking about the man who has arranged, produced, composed and performed all the instruments of some of the most amazing albums of the last 30 years. You're talking about one of the greatest live performer ever.

And as a guitar player, he has become absolutely outstanding and mind-blowing. And what an incredible band leader!

[Edited 8/10/11 7:17am]

smoothcriminal12 said:

Who is:

more talented

a better live performer

better singer

better songwriter

better musician

(who has) better albums

(who has) better songs

overall artist.

Now PLEASE: no stans. If you are going to contribute to this discussion please have something to say. None of this Prince is music crap.

For fun, let's also compare albums one by one

Faith vs. Sign O The Times

Listen Without Prejudice Vol. 1 vs. Graffiti Bridge

Older vs. Chaos and Disorder

Songs From The Last Century vs. Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic

Patience vs. Musicology

Go!

more talented - Prince

a better live performer - Prince

better singer - Prince

better songwriter - Prince

better musician - Prince

(who has) better albums - Prince

(who has) better songs - Prince

overall artist - George Michael

Faith vs. Sign O The Times

Listen Without Prejudice Vol. 1 vs. Graffiti Bridge

Older vs. Chaos and Disorder

Songs From The Last Century vs. Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic

Patience vs. Musicology

smoothcriminal12 said:

PositivityForever said:

I LOVE George Michael BUT to compare him to Prince is utterly ridiculous! No comparison whatsoever! Prince leaves him in the dust even if his last album had been Purple Rain!!

That may be the opinion of most orgers, but George is a talented guy. Very underrated.

Hardly underrated.

ohYeeeeeah said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

You're a joke, man. Prince is one the greatest musicians of the last 50 years or so.

We all know that.

His skills are simply amazing.

We all know that,

You're clearly do not play any instrument at a serious level to talk BS like that.

You don't know that.

You're talking about the man who has arranged, produced, composed and performed all the instruments of some of the most amazing albums of the last 30 years. You're talking about one of the greatest live performer ever.

We all know that.

And as a guitar player, he has become absolutely outstanding and mind-blowing. And what an incredible band leader!

We all know that.

What're you trying to prove again?

Hardly underrated.

I think he is.

smoothcriminal12 said:

ohYeeeeeah said:

Hardly underrated.

I think he is.

I really like his voice but as a composer and a musician, he is totally overrated.

ohYeeeeeah said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

I really like his voice but as a composer and a musician, he is totally overrated.

I personallly think he deserves every bit of praise. But that's just the fan in me.

SpookyElektrix said:

jtfolden said:

I can agree with that. I think GM may be better at writing pop songs, too.

Dont agree. P is a more soulfull singer and has more range. Okay maybe GMs voice colour u can like more, but thats personal. P can also write better pop songs if he wants to. Just compare both their biggest hits (pop songs). Careless whisper vs PR, Faith vs Kiss etc.

Don't agree. First off, the entire discussion is about something completely subjective so it's silly to discount any point or opinion as being "personal" here.

That said, GM is much more soulful in his singing. Comparing each one's rendition of "I Can't Make You Love Me" is a perfect example in this context. GM expresses deep and sorrowful feeling on this track while Prince just turns it into a shallow sex song (once again ). There's, also, a reason why GM has won more than one R&B award, including being the first white performer to reach the top of the R&B charts.

Furthermore, I think they both have decent range but I'd be hard pressed to say Prince has more. Just because Prince spends so much time singing in falsetto doesn't mean his overall range is better.

Finally, I would put Careless Whisper or better yet Praying For Time (both #1 hits) up against Purple Rain (#2) any day, and I Want Your Sex or Faith is at least as good as Kiss. GM has a much longer listing of radio worthy pop tunes despite having fewer albums overall. Prince is actually better, imo, when he's aiming at something experimental. Most of his output is too quirky for pop radio yet a great majority of the content from any GM album is servicable to radio with good results. Faith (album) is a great example. All but 3 tracks off the album were released as singles with 4 of them hitting #1 and the rest going top 5. In the UK, Older (album) produced 6 top three singles, a record still unsurpassed.

What they do share in common is a) battles with their record labels and b) rather idiosyncratic personal behavior that interferes with potential chart successes later in their careers.

thedance said:

Who is "best"? PRINCE is, that's easy.....

... just ask Rolling Stone,

Prince is usually on those lists they make, the 50 immortal artists etc....

George Michael is not there.

(I think Rolling Stone is credible here, don't you?!)...

Uh... No. This is the same rag that reviewed Joni Mitchell's "The Hissing Of Summer Lawns" as worst album of the year (and the worst the reviewer had ever heard, IIRC). Totally not credible, imo.

jtfolden said:

thedance said:

Who is "best"? PRINCE is, that's easy.....

... just ask Rolling Stone,

Prince is usually on those lists they make, the 50 immortal artists etc....

George Michael is not there.

(I think Rolling Stone is credible here, don't you?!)...

Uh... No. This is the same rag that reviewed Joni Mitchell's "The Hissing Of Summer Lawns" as worst album of the year (and the worst the reviewer had ever heard, IIRC). Totally not credible, imo.

It's thedance. He'll do anything to pump up Prince.

Prince: Ferrari

George: Chevy