mistermaxxx said: they got that concept&vibe off "The Mack".Goldy did that in that Movie with that Greasy Cat that was bugging Goldy.Bell Hooks&Her Books should be Dumped by Suge Knight in the Trash&then Madonna could throw in Some tips on How to Respect yourself¬ spread false lies.Johnny Cochraine could throw that SLander ticket on Bell Hooks in that trash can as well.
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mistermaxxx said: they got that concept&vibe off "The Mack".Goldy did that in that Movie with that Greasy Cat that was bugging Goldy.Bell Hooks&Her Books should be Dumped by Suge Knight in the Trash&then Madonna could throw in Some tips on How to Respect yourself¬ spread false lies.Johnny Cochraine could throw that SLander ticket on Bell Hooks in that trash can as well.
get the fuck off my thread you idiot "Climb in my fur." | |
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I apologize RD for bringing that shit up in here. I solly. EDIT IN TRASH CAN. [This message was edited Mon Feb 3 16:30:13 PST 2003 by NuPwrSoul] "That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32 | |
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It's not that she was thrown in the trashcan...that's bad enough. But she was thrown in the trashcan by Jerome, who had his hand between her legs...Now that is blatant!!
So yeah, it was humiliating, but she didn't seem to care...or mind! Tina (~!~) | |
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rdhull said: lovebizzare said: I thought I was the only one who had a problem with that scene, I don't know why, I just do, but I do like what the girl says to Moris though...
So u have no problem with a woman bustin out from behind a building making a public spectable of herself yelling about her man not showin up in the middle of the street in broad daylight? I only meant that I thought it was funny when she was yelling at him. ~KiKi | |
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That scene was pretty messed up. But I guess Mr. Blinn added it in for the sake of humor. You know what, y'all should go back & listen to that MTV Presents Prince interview he did in '85. He says something about that. NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE. | |
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What did he say? | |
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NettieSmiles said: What did he say?
Well, as you know, Prince was getting grilled for the alledged misogyny in the movie. From what I can recall, I believe he said that they may have gone a little overboard for the sake of humor and apologizes for it. But he also said that he doesn't think anything they did there was unnecessary. And basically, IT'S JUST A GODDAMN MOVIE, PEOPLE!!! NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE. | |
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rdhull said: SnowQueen said: Is...is..is that Captain Kangaroo and Vanity in your avatar?
Yep. I want them to be roommates on next season of "The Surreal Life". Shit--let me be Vanitys roommate I think Capt passed away though.[/quote] I will write in my vote to the show for you to be her roommate. I didn't know that about the Captain. I loved him when I was a little kid. | |
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NWF said: NettieSmiles said: What did he say?
Well, as you know, Prince was getting grilled for the alledged misogyny in the movie. From what I can recall, I believe he said that they may have gone a little overboard for the sake of humor and apologizes for it. But he also said that he doesn't think anything they did there was unnecessary. And basically, IT'S JUST A GODDAMN MOVIE, PEOPLE!!! "...(with that facial expression) I didn't write Purple Rain" | |
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CalhounSq said: NuPwrSoul said: who threw bell hooks in the trashcan?
she must have gotten the Suge Knight treatment. ROFL!!! THAT'S some sad, cold, IGNANT shit! I never tripped on that scene until I got older. When I was young I laughed like everyone else. But when I see the film now, the blatant disrespect is kinda hard to swallow. I could see if it was a character we all hated, then it might be justified. But this was just some random woman - why is it "funny" to literally discard of this woman (translation - ANY woman) like that? Bad enough Kid's mom is getting her ass beat all the time & Apples gets the shit smacked out of her more than once - notice how he pushes her to the ground by gripping her face Definitely some questionable shit happenening there... FUCK PURPLE RAIN!!! *every woman* in Purple Rain is treated disrespectfully. I mean, dang, not just Appollonia 6. The simulated oral sex between P and Wendy in that one set. Shucks, the get-up Lisa's wearing when Wendy tells her to shut up during her rant with Prince in the dressing room. Maybe there's a respectfully treated woman in the outtakes, in the parts that didn't make it to film. But, I doubt it. Boy, my take at 30 sure differs from when I was 14 and just wanted to her P wail on his guitar! | |
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that scene was stupid...embarrasing | |
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I remember when this movie came out,there was alot of criticism that the film was sexist and degrading to women.I think it was Whoopi Goldberg who spoke out against the way women were treated in this film...
***Prince's mother gets beaten ***Apollonia gets slapped a few times by Prince ***Wendy and Lisa are ignored by Prince ***A woman is thrown into a dumpster by Jerome ***Wendy gets on her knees and pretends to be giving Prince a blowjob during "Computer Blue" ***Morris Day refers to Brenda and Susan as "bitches" ***Jill Jones' character has a crush on Prince.But he simply uses her to get info about another girl that he admires (Apollonia). But,if you can get past all that,it's a GREAT movie Edit... [This message was edited Tue Feb 4 7:05:05 PST 2003 by DavidEye] | |
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SnowQueen said: I never had a problem with that scene, per se, except for that girl's terrible acting. At one point when she's yelling at Morris she is obviously on the verge of laughing...
I'm Catholic and my family used to receive a Catholic newspaper every month, and each issue would contain the list of recent banned movies (movies condemned by the Pope and which faithful Catholics were told not to view) by the Church and the reason why they were banned. "Purple Rain" was on the banned list, and it was due to that trash can scene because it was considered degrading to women. I remember seeing it listed in the newsletter and being surprised that THAT scene caused the movie to be banned. I was only a teenager, but in my mind there were scenes a lot more "naughty" or "bad" than that one that I thought would've gotten it banned. To me the trashcan scene was just silly. I could definitely see the point about degrading women, but still... Since when did the Catholic church care about women? These are the same people who brought you the Pope's encyclical "Humanae Vitae", stating that the regulation of fertility and contraception was against "Natural Law" | |
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piflacoco said: that scene was stupid...embarrasing
Come off it guys. we've all been there haven't we? We've all, at one point or another, had to chuck an ex-girlfriend into a trashcan... just to make a point you understand. It's all a part of being in a relationship. | |
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ian said: piflacoco said: that scene was stupid...embarrasing
Come off it guys. we've all been there haven't we? We've all, at one point or another, had to chuck an ex-girlfriend into a trashcan... just to make a point you understand. It's all a part of being in a relationship. BTW...Too many people taking a politically correct, virtuous stance on the scene. It's a movie, and a campy one at that. It's not being insensitive to say the scene was funny and leave it there. No one's going around throwing their ex-girlfriends in garbage cans, not in 1984, not in 2003. I remember some critic saying the PRain "glorified violence towards women" back in the day. What a load of self-righteous crap. The movie never says or implies it's ok to hit a woman. In fact, the violence in the movie only serves to show how troubled The Kid was, and even moreso, that he was continuing his father's cycle of violence, something the Kid saw in his parents' life. "Great dancers are not great because of their technique, they are great because of their passion" -- Martha Graham | |
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XNY said: The movie never says or implies it's ok to hit a woman. In fact, the violence in the movie only serves to show how troubled The Kid was, and even moreso, that he was continuing his father's cycle of violence, something the Kid saw in his parents' life.
Exactly. We get the sense at the end of the movie The Kid is changing his ways after confronting his demons... his agreeing to play Wendy and Lisa's song, etc. "That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32 | |
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DavidEye said: I remember when this movie came out,there was alot of criticism that the film was sexist and degrading to women.I think it was Whoopi Goldberg who spoke out against the way women were treated in this film...
F*** Whoopi. After the way the men in The Color Purple were portrayed she has the gall... F*** Whoopi!!! This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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NuPwrSoul said: XNY said: The movie never says or implies it's ok to hit a woman. In fact, the violence in the movie only serves to show how troubled The Kid was, and even moreso, that he was continuing his father's cycle of violence, something the Kid saw in his parents' life.
Exactly. We get the sense at the end of the movie The Kid is changing his ways after confronting his demons... his agreeing to play Wendy and Lisa's song, etc. so no more pretending to give Prince head during Computer Blue for Wendy! whoo hoo! "Climb in my fur." | |
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NuPwrSoul said: who threw bell hooks in the trashcan?
she must have gotten the Suge Knight treatment. Gee, I've always wanted to throw bell hooks into a trash can. Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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i just look at pr as a real-life tex avery cartoon, 2 be honest...minus the sight gags and such. | |
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XNY said: BTW...Too many people taking a politically correct, virtuous stance on the scene. It's a movie, and a campy one at that. It's not being insensitive to say the scene was funny and leave it there. No one's going around throwing their ex-girlfriends in garbage cans, not in 1984, not in 2003. ... but to some people it wasn't funny, and as a result it looked lame, insensitive, and it implied to some that it was acceptable (even humorous) to treat women like garbage (regardless of whether people actually practise that sort of behaviour in real life.) It's not being politically correct, vituous nor self-righteous - to see it as unfunny.ALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift. | |
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that scene was childish...something teenagers would think its funny, but come on...these people were old enough 2 make it all look embarrasing 4 the ones watching (me) | |
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DavidEye said: I remember when this movie came out,there was alot of criticism that the film was sexist and degrading to women.I think it was Whoopi Goldberg who spoke out against the way women were treated in this film...
***Prince's mother gets beaten ***Apollonia gets slapped a few times by Prince ***Wendy and Lisa are ignored by Prince ***A woman is thrown into a dumpster by Jerome ***Wendy gets on her knees and pretends to be giving Prince a blowjob during "Computer Blue" ***Morris Day refers to Brenda and Susan as "bitches" ***Jill Jones' character has a crush on Prince.But he simply uses her to get info about another girl that he admires (Apollonia). But,if you can get past all that,it's a GREAT movie Edit... [This message was edited Tue Feb 4 7:05:05 PST 2003 by DavidEye] Shit...it's a great movie WITH all this in there! LOL! | |
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langebleu said: XNY said: BTW...Too many people taking a politically correct, virtuous stance on the scene. It's a movie, and a campy one at that. It's not being insensitive to say the scene was funny and leave it there. No one's going around throwing their ex-girlfriends in garbage cans, not in 1984, not in 2003. ... but to some people it wasn't funny, and as a result it looked lame, insensitive, and it implied to some that it was acceptable (even humorous) to treat women like garbage (regardless of whether people actually practise that sort of behaviour in real life.) It's not being politically correct, vituous nor self-righteous - to see it as unfunny.Morris' character is hardly 3 dimensional, esp with the campy 'Sexy's on standby' schtick, the 'What's the password?' routine, the "Brass waterbed" scene...and except for a scene where he's seen feeling bad for making fun of the Kid's dead father, there isn't a shread of humanity in him, all posturing. Now if Prince's character did that, I could see your point. Even that scene is played off like he's some kind of superfly pimp, all comedy, nothing serious. "Great dancers are not great because of their technique, they are great because of their passion" -- Martha Graham | |
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rdhull said: !!!
Thoughts..women? men? Any issues on this? To b honest, I was shocked, considering it WAS jerome & all. he's too gentle. morris maybe...but since it's only a movie, it's all good. May the BELLS ring 4 U even when ur not in love. | |
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i seem to recall the critics having a field
day with that one | |
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imagine the girls resume...
and then maybe her interviews went something like... 'well i was in a commercial for mcdonalds..and then i got my big break..i was the girl thrown in the dumpster in purple rain...betcha remember me now..right? i waited all nite for you who the do you think i am?..see you remember me now, right?..so do i get the job?' | |
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I wrote a paper for a class last year on this topic...
Received an A on the paper and an A+ in the class I mean, like, where is the sun? | |
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Here's another odd scene in the movie that could possibly be seen as degrading to women...
After performing "Sex Shooter",Apollonia and Prince get into a big fight and he knocks her to the ground.Then she gets up and walks away...in her lingerie!!! Presumably she had to walk home(?) dressed like that,in the middle of the night!! That scene is unintentionally funny edit my Purple Rain-loving ass... [This message was edited Wed Feb 5 1:25:53 PST 2003 by DavidEye] | |
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