silkylee said:

Prince isn't some gullible follower, of anybody's oakie doke views.

Theres to types of people. Leaders & followers.

Prince proved through his career he's a leader. He goes against the grain.

Right or wrong, he does it his way.

Yeah! He was wrong when he prophesized the end of the world.

2000-0-0 party over oop's out of time.

Prince always been ahead of the game.

You can hear his views in his music.(Genius!)

Prince know's the truth, and is living in the real world.

We're the delusion living in an illusion.

Some prophecy was right. In 1998 (I think, not sure) when he was jamming with Candy and Hans Dulfer at an afterconcert in Tivoli in Utrecht. At the end of the afterconcert he sings:

"I have to go now"

"I have to get ready for the bomb"

"Osama bin Laden 2001"

"Get ready for the bomb"

"Osama bin Laden 2001"

"Get ready for the bomb"

I'm still wandering about it. How did he know? And why didn't he intervene?

dJJ said:

silkylee said:

Prince isn't some gullible follower, of anybody's oakie doke views.

Theres to types of people. Leaders & followers.

Prince proved through his career he's a leader. He goes against the grain.

Right or wrong, he does it his way.

Yeah! He was wrong when he prophesized the end of the world.

2000-0-0 party over oop's out of time.

Prince always been ahead of the game.

You can hear his views in his music.(Genius!)

Prince know's the truth, and is living in the real world.

We're the delusion living in an illusion.

Some prophecy was right. In 1998 (I think, not sure) when he was jamming with Candy and Hans Dulfer at an afterconcert in Tivoli in Utrecht. At the end of the afterconcert he sings:

"I have to go now"

"I have to get ready for the bomb"

"Osama bin Laden 2001"

"Get ready for the bomb"

"Osama bin Laden 2001"

"Get ready for the bomb"

I'm still wandering about it. How did he know? And why didn't he intervene?

Lucky guess?

In all seriousness, even if he did know, what could he do about it? If he went to the government with his info, do you think that they'd believe a man who's name was once an unpronounceble symbol and who once sung songs about girls getting papercuts on their vags after sticking magazines in them? I don't think so.

I like to hear what Prince has to say about what he's learning or knows. Sometimes I get what he's saying. Other times he loses me. I think he's pretty inteligent though. Smarter than most people in entertainment. But many look at him just as a musical genius but not one who has the same brain power that would allow him to understand other things important in life besides music. Give the man a break. I would like to sit and talk with Prince as a person not as a superstar. I respect that he's human, has a heartbeat and a brain. I have other thoughts on this that aren't as positive but I''ll save that for another time.

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There so many levels to Prince's lyrics.

You can't always take for face value, or you'll miss the message.

His lyrics sometimes flies over my head.

The wiser I get, the more I understand him.

Prince music is complicated. That's one of the reasons why I find him so intriguing.

The way he creates and organize the musc, lyrics, & images, shows he's a person of

great intelligence.

I'm not talking about the type of regular music any writter or producer creates.

I'm talking about Prince's music, that has double meaning lyrics, with deep, dark

spiritual hidden messages. In which most of the public doesn't have a clue.

Prince music cover's politics, religion, and spiritual warfare.

If Prince not an intellectual. I don't know who is

silkylee said:

There so many levels to Prince's lyrics.

You can't always take for face value, or you'll miss the message.

His lyrics sometimes flies over my head.

The wiser I get, the more I understand him.

Prince music is complicated. That's one of the reasons why I find him so intriguing.

The way he creates and organize the musc, lyrics, & images, shows he's a person of

great intelligence.

I'm not talking about the type of regular music any writter or producer creates.

I'm talking about Prince's music, that has double meaning lyrics, with deep, dark

spiritual hidden messages. In which most of the public doesn't have a clue.

Prince music cover's politics, religion, and spiritual warfare.

If Prince not an intellectual. I don't know who is

Not anymore i'm afraid. It's just silly religion now. Little P don't even vote!

dJJ said:

Some prophecy was right. In 1998 (I think, not sure) when he was jamming with Candy and Hans Dulfer at an afterconcert in Tivoli in Utrecht. At the end of the afterconcert he sings:

"I have to go now"

"I have to get ready for the bomb"

"Osama bin Laden 2001"

"Get ready for the bomb"

"Osama bin Laden 2001"

"Get ready for the bomb"

I'm still wandering about it. How did he know? And why didn't he intervene?

PLEASE stop with this shit.

NouveauDance said:

dJJ said:

Some prophecy was right. In 1998 (I think, not sure) when he was jamming with Candy and Hans Dulfer at an afterconcert in Tivoli in Utrecht. At the end of the afterconcert he sings:

"I have to go now"

"I have to get ready for the bomb"

"Osama bin Laden 2001"

"Get ready for the bomb"

"Osama bin Laden 2001"

"Get ready for the bomb"

I'm still wandering about it. How did he know? And why didn't he intervene?

PLEASE stop with this shit.

NouveauDance said:

dJJ said:

Some prophecy was right. In 1998 (I think, not sure) when he was jamming with Candy and Hans Dulfer at an afterconcert in Tivoli in Utrecht. At the end of the afterconcert he sings:

"I have to go now"

"I have to get ready for the bomb"

"Osama bin Laden 2001"

"Get ready for the bomb"

"Osama bin Laden 2001"

"Get ready for the bomb"

I'm still wandering about it. How did he know? And why didn't he intervene?

PLEASE stop with this shit.

OK so now we don't know the difference between an intellectual and someone with a crystal ball.....

i realize y'all think america is even slightly honest but u are wrong .. osama had nothing to do with 911 .. therefore prince didn't predict shit .. now if he had sung .. bush admin stages false flag attacks on american soil killing thousands of innocent people so that he could attack iraq and make billions on oil and halliburton .. then prince would have gotten it right .. as for his crystal ball ... great track ... and his intelligence ... prince is still at war for his own intelligence .. sometimes he wins but othertimes he just repeats other peoples stupidity ..

W2A indeed!

errant said:

laurarichardson said:

If he can hang with Cornel West I doubt he is dim as you think. In addtion, a dim person would not be able to pick up so many instruments. Dude is not a rocket scientist but the dim comment is a bit much.

he can hang with Cornell West because Prince is a blank slate whose head is easily filled up with every stray word West has to say without any critical thinking about with being gospel.

Well Cornell West said in an interview a few months ago that he had a long conversation with Prince about many topics. Conversations are usually a two way street and unless you think you can hang with Cornell maybe you should step off of this topic because Mr. West stated that P was is a very smart guy.

I honestly do not know what some of you are smoking but you really need to seek help.

[Edited 1/24/11 17:15pm]

laurarichardson said:

errant said:

he can hang with Cornell West because Prince is a blank slate whose head is easily filled up with every stray word West has to say without any critical thinking about with being gospel.

Well Cornell West said in an interview a few months ago that he had a long conversation with Prince about many topics. Conversations are usually a two way street and unless you think you can hang with Cornell maybe you should step off of this topic because Mr. West stated that P was is a very smart guy.

I honestly do not know what some of you are smoking but you really need to seek help.

[Edited 1/24/11 17:15pm]

Smart guy because he had his own thoughts and ideas? Or smart guy because he sat there and soaked up everything Cornell West had to say without argument?

They have eyes but do not seeth.

They have ears but do not heareth.

ScottRob said:

silkylee said:

There so many levels to Prince's lyrics.

You can't always take for face value, or you'll miss the message.

His lyrics sometimes flies over my head.

The wiser I get, the more I understand him.

Prince music is complicated. That's one of the reasons why I find him so intriguing.

The way he creates and organize the musc, lyrics, & images, shows he's a person of

great intelligence.

I'm not talking about the type of regular music any writter or producer creates.

I'm talking about Prince's music, that has double meaning lyrics, with deep, dark

spiritual hidden messages. In which most of the public doesn't have a clue.

Prince music cover's politics, religion, and spiritual warfare.

If Prince not an intellectual. I don't know who is

Not anymore i'm afraid. It's just silly religion now. Little P don't even vote!

I'm just saying, how could you possibly try to make this an issue when we recently saw a national election fail Gore v. Bush.?

errant said:

laurarichardson said:

Well Cornell West said in an interview a few months ago that he had a long conversation with Prince about many topics. Conversations are usually a two way street and unless you think you can hang with Cornell maybe you should step off of this topic because Mr. West stated that P was is a very smart guy.

I honestly do not know what some of you are smoking but you really need to seek help.

[Edited 1/24/11 17:15pm]

Smart guy because he had his own thoughts and ideas? Or smart guy because he sat there and soaked up everything Cornell West had to say without argument?

errant said:

laurarichardson said:

Well Cornell West said in an interview a few months ago that he had a long conversation with Prince about many topics. Conversations are usually a two way street and unless you think you can hang with Cornell maybe you should step off of this topic because Mr. West stated that P was is a very smart guy.

I honestly do not know what some of you are smoking but you really need to seek help.

[Edited 1/24/11 17:15pm]

Smart guy because he had his own thoughts and ideas? Or smart guy because he sat there and soaked up everything Cornell West had to say without argument?

^why don't you tell us...since you were obviously in the room with Prince and West at the time.

sweething said:

ScottRob said:

Not anymore i'm afraid. It's just silly religion now. Little P don't even vote!

I'm just saying, how could you possibly try to make this an issue when we recently saw a national election fail Gore v. Bush.?

Exactly because of a failure like that, is a great example of why more people should vote. How do you think Obama got in? The highest turnout of black voters ever, expressing their opinion and being listened to. Voting is as important as breathing. There will always be corruption, but change will only ever insue with enough people standing up to be counted.

I do believe Prince is an intellectual person. It may be generous to say that people of a certain age are. After many years of thinking things through, we can say that people have exercised their minds long enough through controversial subjects to identify ourselves as intellectuals. Prince's music has offered a wide variety of topics that support this fact of reason. In my opinion, the general statement, "Love 4 One Another," is the most essential intellectual perspective.

0ne0n0ne said:

I do believe Prince is an intellectual person. It may be generous to say that people of a certain age are. After many years of thinking things through, we can say that people have exercised their minds long enough through controversial subjects to identify ourselves as intellectuals. Prince's music has offered a wide variety of topics that support this fact of reason. In my opinion, the general statement, "Love 4 One Another," is the most essential intellectual perspective.

As much as the statement of "love 4 one another" is a fantastically wonderful if naive concept, it is not exactly original or helpful. Before him Lennon wrote "Imagine" and "Give Peace a Chance" and there were many before him too. To be an intellectual, he would have to take his idealistic notions and explain how they would work in reality, as at least Lennon attempted to do at times. If he's as serious as he acts, then let's see P prove it thorugh social and economic reasoning and debate. This is what intellectuals do. Oh, and they vote as well.

To state "There will be peace for those who love god aloud" - is a very childish and ignorant statement from a man who was already in his thirties. Even the most religious people will agree that loving god can come with heavy burdens and the exact opposition to peace, due to contradictory faiths and their extremist and fundamentalist believers. Just look at America! Now if he said "There will be peace once we dispense of such an obsolete notion as the need and propensity of man-made deities, designed as an attempt to control different factions of people and to stop us thinking for ourselves", now that would have been intellectual!

As for his age, he's about the same number of years gone as Hitler was when he started the Second World War. Kinda invalidates the common misconception that through age brings wisdom. Wisdom is defined thorugh experience and knowledge, and unfortunately you don't get much of that if you live in a self-righteous and blinkered bubble all your life.

This shit still going on?

Listen here: nobody can fuck with Prince's musical talent and abilities. He is a definite intellectual in that perspective. As for the rest, not so much, if at all, but tearing him down for just that, while you have nothing to offer on the table yourself, is pretty pathetic. Kinda sad actually.

rapper said:

olb99 said:

I've never considered Prince as an intellectual. He doesn't seem to be a very rational and/or educated person. People already mentioned religion, politics, chemtrails, his current opinion on the internet, etc. We have countless examples that show that he is, as Silkilove said, a pseudo-intellectual, at best.

As English is not my native language, I've never really cared about what Prince has to say, either in his songs or in his interviews. That's why I think "The Rainbow Children" is one of his best albums, although I'm an atheist.

You said it very well. His education beyond high school has consisted of things he is only interested in and more on the side of his opinion (it seems). His fame has pushed him so far out of the real world his mind is blown when he watches a Michael Moore movie.

some of the things he says in interviews sometimes

he just dances to the beat of his own drum and being so famous and cut off most ppl just don't "get" him

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Tremolina said:

This shit still going on?

Listen here: nobody can fuck with Prince's musical talent and abilities. He is a definite intellectual in that perspective. As for the rest, not so much, if at all, but tearing him down for just that, while you have nothing to offer on the table yourself, is pretty pathetic. Kinda sad actually.

Agreed about the music. closest thing there is to a living genius in my book.

There's no tearing down for tearing down's sake tho, it's about trying to debate with some delusional people about another delusional person on whether or not the dude's an 'intellectual' and what you'd ask him. That's the point of the thread isn't it?

And what would you like on the table? Happy (not sad at all) to offer what i've got...

ScottRob said:

Tremolina said:

This shit still going on?

Listen here: nobody can fuck with Prince's musical talent and abilities. He is a definite intellectual in that perspective. As for the rest, not so much, if at all, but tearing him down for just that, while you have nothing to offer on the table yourself, is pretty pathetic. Kinda sad actually.

Agreed about the music. closest thing there is to a living genius in my book.

There's no tearing down for tearing down's sake tho, it's about trying to debate with some delusional people about another delusional person on whether or not the dude's an 'intellectual' and what you'd ask him. That's the point of the thread isn't it?

And what would you like on the table? Happy (not sad at all) to offer what i've got...

There really is no point in debating this sort of issues with "delusional people" because there is never really a point in debating with delusional people is there?

All I would want on the table in this "debate" (but like I said: this shit still going on?) is how much exactly Prince is a musical intellectual. Many agree he is exceptional, but how exceptional really?

ScottRob said:

0ne0n0ne said:

I do believe Prince is an intellectual person. It may be generous to say that people of a certain age are. After many years of thinking things through, we can say that people have exercised their minds long enough through controversial subjects to identify ourselves as intellectuals. Prince's music has offered a wide variety of topics that support this fact of reason. In my opinion, the general statement, "Love 4 One Another," is the most essential intellectual perspective.

As much as the statement of "love 4 one another" is a fantastically wonderful if naive concept, it is not exactly original or helpful. Before him Lennon wrote "Imagine" and "Give Peace a Chance" and there were many before him too. To be an intellectual, he would have to take his idealistic notions and explain how they would work in reality, as at least Lennon attempted to do at times. If he's as serious as he acts, then let's see P prove it thorugh social and economic reasoning and debate. This is what intellectuals do. Oh, and they vote as well.

To state "There will be peace for those who love god aloud" - is a very childish and ignorant statement from a man who was already in his thirties. Even the most religious people will agree that loving god can come with heavy burdens and the exact opposition to peace, due to contradictory faiths and their extremist and fundamentalist believers. Just look at America! Now if he said "There will be peace once we dispense of such an obsolete notion as the need and propensity of man-made deities, designed as an attempt to control different factions of people and to stop us thinking for ourselves", now that would have been intellectual!

As for his age, he's about the same number of years gone as Hitler was when he started the Second World War. Kinda invalidates the common misconception that through age brings wisdom. Wisdom is defined thorugh experience and knowledge, and unfortunately you don't get much of that if you live in a self-righteous and blinkered bubble all your life.

You have made many strong points that would all have to be isolated to fully discuss. It's just too much for me to take in today.

I still believe strongly that "Love 4 One Another." is both the lowest and the highest level of intellectual thinking.

If love was all that someone knew to think about, such as a child with "Down Syndrome," In my eyes this person is more of an intellectual than a keen violent thinker.

Everyone here is surviving the human condition.

I can only trust that Love is at the heart of all Solutions.

Tremolina said:

This thread just reminds me of this:

^ What the hell?

Can i be Vader please?