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Thread started 04/02/10 2:19pm

BobPaisleyPark

Does P do "black" or "white" music better?

Rightly or wrongly there are genres of music associated with being black (jazz, blues, R+B, funk, soul, reggae, gospel) and music associated with being white (rock, pop, pyschedelia, indie, punk, the various forms of metal, opera/classical)

You may disagree with my analysis but if you see some truth in what I'm saying do you think he produces music that would be considered "black" or "white" better?

Personally I think his best ever period musically was from !980's Dirty Mind (a fusion of rock and punk) right up to 1988's Lovesexy (ethereal music very influenced by The Cocteau Twins an exceptional indie band from Scotland).
Albums 1999 and Purple rain are very pop/rock orientated. ATWIAD is pure 1960's Beatlesesque pyschedelia as is Parade but that is laced more with stringed instruments.
The song Sign of the times is very indie sounding and appeared in the Indie set's bible The N.M.E top 20 songs of the 1980s and featured in John Peel's festive 50 for the year 1987.
All these songs and albums from this period would contain music from the genres that are considered white.

I think when P's music starts to suffer is when he created the N.P.G and started incorporating more black styles into his music, most disastrously his forays into rap and hip hop.
Trying to be a "serious" black artist caused his work to suffer (IMHO).
P does rock and pop better than rap or hip hop.
His endless R+B efforts pale compared to his few attempts at punk or psychedelia.

What do you all think?
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Reply #1 posted 04/02/10 2:21pm

xlr8r

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<--grabs popcorn and gets heroin works at the ready
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Reply #2 posted 04/02/10 2:27pm

Mars23

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"I can't understand human curiosity. Am I black or white, am I straight or gay?"

Paraphrased of course...
Studies have shown the ass crack of the average Prince fan to be abnormally large. This explains the ease and frequency of their panties bunching up in it.
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Reply #3 posted 04/02/10 2:36pm

nosajd

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I think I like Prince`s music b/c he does it all. & I think ur threads r getting lamer @ each post.
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Reply #4 posted 04/02/10 2:42pm

BobPaisleyPark

nosajd said:

I think ur threads r getting lamer @ each post.


WTF?

I've hardly ever posted on this website and I've been a member for 5 years. Less than 50 posts in five years I'd wager.

confused
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Reply #5 posted 04/02/10 2:43pm

xlr8r

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BobPaisleyPark said:

nosajd said:

I think ur threads r getting lamer @ each post.


WTF?

I've hardly ever posted on this website and I've been a member for 5 years. Less than 50 posts in five years I'd wager.

confused


Seems like you're batting under .500 lol
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Reply #6 posted 04/02/10 2:52pm

NastradumasKid

xlr8r said:

BobPaisleyPark said:



WTF?

I've hardly ever posted on this website and I've been a member for 5 years. Less than 50 posts in five years I'd wager.

confused


Seems like you're batting under .500 lol



I didn't know music had races. neutral
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Reply #7 posted 04/02/10 2:53pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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NastradumasKid said:

xlr8r said:



Seems like you're batting under .500 lol



I didn't know music had races. neutral

Nas doesn't do white music wink lol
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Reply #8 posted 04/02/10 2:55pm

xlr8r

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NastradumasKid said:

xlr8r said:



Seems like you're batting under .500 lol



I didn't know music had races. neutral

I didnt claim it did, BobPaisley the original poster did.
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Reply #9 posted 04/02/10 2:56pm

mike3121

I prefer pop/rock side
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Reply #10 posted 04/02/10 2:57pm

NastradumasKid

xlr8r said:

NastradumasKid said:




I didn't know music had races. neutral

I didnt claim it did, BobPaisley the original poster did.



I know, I wasn't refering to you sorry.
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Reply #11 posted 04/02/10 2:58pm

NastradumasKid

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

NastradumasKid said:




I didn't know music had races. neutral

Nas doesn't do white music wink lol



What the hell is white and black music?!!!! lol lol Nas is a little too Afro-centric for that.
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Reply #12 posted 04/02/10 2:58pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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NastradumasKid said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


Nas doesn't do white music wink lol



What the hell is white and black music?!!!! lol lol Nas is a little too Afro-centric for that.

Can you picture Bone Thugs doing Live for Love? lol
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Reply #13 posted 04/02/10 2:59pm

NastradumasKid

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

NastradumasKid said:




What the hell is white and black music?!!!! lol lol Nas is a little too Afro-centric for that.

Can you picture Bone Thugs doing Live for Love? lol


No!!!!! disbelief
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Reply #14 posted 04/02/10 3:02pm

BobPaisleyPark

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I prefer pop/rock side


As do I.

I'd love him to reform the Revolution, make an album with them and tour. The N.P.G (in all their various forms do nothing for me musically) and the musicians he has worked with during the last 5 years and more also don't seem to have brought out the best in him (just my opinion).

A return to his pop/rock days of yore would please me greatly. Nothing to be ashamed about in producing pop, Prince does it better than anyone.
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Reply #15 posted 04/02/10 3:04pm

NastradumasKid

BobPaisleyPark said:

mike3121 said:

I prefer pop/rock side


As do I.

I'd love him to reform the Revolution, make an album with them and tour. The N.P.G (in all their various forms do nothing for me musically) and the musicians he has worked with during the last 5 years and more also don't seem to have brought out the best in him (just my opinion).

A return to his pop/rock days of yore would please me greatly. Nothing to be ashamed about in producing pop, Prince does it better than anyone.



He does some good R&B songs too.
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Reply #16 posted 04/02/10 3:05pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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NastradumasKid said:

BobPaisleyPark said:



As do I.

I'd love him to reform the Revolution, make an album with them and tour. The N.P.G (in all their various forms do nothing for me musically) and the musicians he has worked with during the last 5 years and more also don't seem to have brought out the best in him (just my opinion).

A return to his pop/rock days of yore would please me greatly. Nothing to be ashamed about in producing pop, Prince does it better than anyone.



He does some good R&B songs too.


Fooorture baby mama
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Reply #17 posted 04/02/10 3:06pm

xlr8r

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This does remind me of yalls god Per Nelson in the purple bible The First Decade or was it Dave Hill in the Prince A Pop Life downplaying Prince's forays of rnb music satting they were either irrelevant or much lesser than his guitar based music or his 'rock' based music.
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Reply #18 posted 04/02/10 3:08pm

NastradumasKid

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

NastradumasKid said:




He does some good R&B songs too.


Fooorture baby mama


I ain't talking about that shit! mad
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Reply #19 posted 04/02/10 3:11pm

ernestsewell

xlr8r said:

<--grabs popcorn and gets heroin works at the ready

couch Scoot over. I brought coke & absolut for us.
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Reply #20 posted 04/02/10 3:14pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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ernestsewell said:

xlr8r said:

<--grabs popcorn and gets heroin works at the ready

couch Scoot over. I brought coke & absolut for us.

Where's your works? lurking
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Reply #21 posted 04/02/10 3:16pm

xlr8r

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ernestsewell said:

xlr8r said:

<--grabs popcorn and gets heroin works at the ready

couch Scoot over. I brought coke & absolut for us.

lol
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Reply #22 posted 04/02/10 3:16pm

ernestsewell

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

ernestsewell said:


couch Scoot over. I brought coke & absolut for us.

Where's your works? lurking

My works?
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Reply #23 posted 04/02/10 3:16pm

dance4me3121

I only read the 1st 4 posts. All Im gonna say is that music has no color.
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Reply #24 posted 04/02/10 3:18pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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ernestsewell said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


Where's your works? lurking

My works?

Herion works. Maybe you xlr8r can spot you lol
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Reply #25 posted 04/02/10 3:41pm

ernestsewell

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

ernestsewell said:


My works?

Herion works. Maybe you xlr8r can spot you lol

C. Tracy's voice: "Oh baby, I ain't into all that!"
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Reply #26 posted 04/02/10 3:42pm

NastradumasKid

ernestsewell said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


Herion works. Maybe you xlr8r can spot you lol

C. Tracy's voice: "Oh baby, I ain't into all that!"



Tricky- "You did it to Mary's mom!"
[Edited 4/2/10 15:42pm]
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Reply #27 posted 04/02/10 3:42pm

Paris9748430

ernestsewell said:

xlr8r said:

<--grabs popcorn and gets heroin works at the ready

couch Scoot over. I brought coke & absolut for us.





[Edited 4/2/10 15:44pm]
JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!!
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Reply #28 posted 04/02/10 3:43pm

Brysonem

I love Prince's work because it is so various. It's great how he incorporates different styles into his records.

I love his stuff with the Revolution, and his stuff with the New Power Generation. But his best is obviously his stuff on his own. star
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Reply #29 posted 04/02/10 3:56pm

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BobPaisleyPark said:

mike3121 said:

I prefer pop/rock side


As do I.

I'd love him to reform the Revolution, make an album with them and tour. The N.P.G (in all their various forms do nothing for me musically) and the musicians he has worked with during the last 5 years and more also don't seem to have brought out the best in him (just my opinion).

A return to his pop/rock days of yore would please me greatly. Nothing to be ashamed about in producing pop, Prince does it better than anyone.

agreed!...we can but pray
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