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Rate of PRINCE Releases These Days I know that we actually wait a bit longer between albums--or am I just confused. 
But it seems like, at least to me, that he's releasing about the same volume of work over the same period of time as he did in the 80's. Only instead of an album every 11 to 14 months or so, we get an album a bit later but with 3 damned CDs on it. And back in the day we'd only have to wait a few months (10 or 11 or less) before a "Single to the forthcoming album..." was released. But these days, does't Prince still drop new music in the bucket, albeit the venue is much different---I mean he performed Turn Me Loose on Jay Leno (though it wasn't placed on an album), and he just released that song, whatever it's called, a few weeks ago to radio. So even though they are not actual 'singles' persay, it seems he's still throwing things in the wind at a relatively frequent pace, especially for a musician at this point in his career. Am I just imagining things, or is Prince still prolific when it comes to actual releases.? | |
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TheVoid said: I know that we actually wait a bit longer between albums--or am I just confused.
But it seems like, at least to me, that he's releasing about the same volume of work over the same period of time as he did in the 80's. Only instead of an album every 11 to 14 months or so, we get an album a bit later but with 3 damned CDs on it. And back in the day we'd only have to wait a few months (10 or 11 or less) before a "Single to the forthcoming album..." was released. But these days, does't Prince still drop new music in the bucket, albeit the venue is much different---I mean he performed Turn Me Loose on Jay Leno (though it wasn't placed on an album), and he just released that song, whatever it's called, a few weeks ago to radio. So even though they are not actual 'singles' persay, it seems he's still throwing things in the wind at a relatively frequent pace, especially for a musician at this point in his career. Am I just imagining things, or is Prince still prolific when it comes to actual releases.? I agree with you for the "prolific". P still creating and releasing (in a way or another). Unfortunately, in the past "Prolific" was coupled with "Quality". Now for my taste is coupled with "Uneven". But maybe it's me growing old. | |
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BoraBora said: I agree with you for the "prolific". P still creating and releasing (in a way or another).
Unfortunately, in the past "Prolific" was coupled with "Quality". Now for my taste is coupled with "Uneven". But maybe it's me growing old. Prince hasn't had a brilliant record since 1995, and we all know it. He's just trying too hard to be what he hates having to be and yet what he wants to be all at the same time. Prince hasn't truly been inspired in a long time. There's the same angry undertone in his music, and a lot of his stuff is just toss offs, and various ideas thrown together. Making music is easy for him. Making brilliant music is a far-fetched idea. But in reality, it's part of aging, isn't it? He's tried a lot of stuff from classical, new age, jazz, funk, rock n' roll, Latin infused, punk, new wave, et al. He doesn't have to prove anything to anyone, this much is true - except to one person: Himself. His ego has told him he doesn't even need to do that anymore. And as usual, his worst enemy is himself. He THINKS he's just as funky and original he was 25 years ago, but he's just not. His fan base has drastically dwindled to well under a million people (as noted by his record sales in the past 15 years). Having said all that, one might think I hate Prince or am negative toward him, but that's far from the truth. I'm not an ass-kisser, but I'm also hopeful for Prince. I think he still has the discipline to make great songs like "Cream" or "Endorphinmachine" or "Gold or even "When Doves Cry" again. Until he WANTS to do that, we'll get C-rate material over and over again. I'd be fine with him not releasing anything this year, frankly, or at least not until late in the year. We know he'll never pull stuff out of the vault again, so eh....I'll be digging in the older catalog for musical sustenance. | |
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gotta aggree really
personally-I'm in no rush for a new disc-or 3 and to be honest-i havent played Lotus set for-well not since november at least though i have been listening to and watching ALOT of Prince lol he'll have to work his lil' ass off to top box of chocolates and making the rain  | |
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TheVoid said: I know that we actually wait a bit longer between albums--or am I just confused.
But it seems like, at least to me, that he's releasing about the same volume of work over the same period of time as he did in the 80's. Only instead of an album every 11 to 14 months or so, we get an album a bit later but with 3 damned CDs on it. And back in the day we'd only have to wait a few months (10 or 11 or less) before a "Single to the forthcoming album..." was released. But these days, does't Prince still drop new music in the bucket, albeit the venue is much different---I mean he performed Turn Me Loose on Jay Leno (though it wasn't placed on an album), and he just released that song, whatever it's called, a few weeks ago to radio. So even though they are not actual 'singles' persay, it seems he's still throwing things in the wind at a relatively frequent pace, especially for a musician at this point in his career. Am I just imagining things, or is Prince still prolific when it comes to actual releases.? P is still as prolific as he has been since the WB days. The output has been massive. We've had on-line releases as well as hard copies of music (on disc). Off Topic: Personally speaking I feel every album has had a diamond in the rough or brilliant shinning points. If I get chills to the music/lyrics or if I am emotionally moved then he's done his job, with so said album. It seems that there is not enough time in the day for him creating music/lyrical content. Unless someone has insight into his daily happenings and feelings from day to day it is difficult to determine if he has a muse as some have said or some focus as an artist to create so said art. Again, he's just as prolific as he was during the WB days. As an artist he may create something that his full heart was not into like (the album) Chaos & Disorder as we all know but there's something always said or repeated. Peace ... & Stay Funky ...
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ernestsewell said: BoraBora said: I agree with you for the "prolific". P still creating and releasing (in a way or another).
Unfortunately, in the past "Prolific" was coupled with "Quality". Now for my taste is coupled with "Uneven". But maybe it's me growing old. Prince hasn't had a brilliant record since 1995, and we all know it. He's just trying too hard to be what he hates having to be and yet what he wants to be all at the same time. Prince hasn't truly been inspired in a long time. There's the same angry undertone in his music, and a lot of his stuff is just toss offs, and various ideas thrown together. Making music is easy for him. Making brilliant music is a far-fetched idea. But in reality, it's part of aging, isn't it? He's tried a lot of stuff from classical, new age, jazz, funk, rock n' roll, Latin infused, punk, new wave, et al. He doesn't have to prove anything to anyone, this much is true - except to one person: Himself. His ego has told him he doesn't even need to do that anymore. And as usual, his worst enemy is himself. He THINKS he's just as funky and original he was 25 years ago, but he's just not. His fan base has drastically dwindled to well under a million people (as noted by his record sales in the past 15 years). Having said all that, one might think I hate Prince or am negative toward him, but that's far from the truth. I'm not an ass-kisser, but I'm also hopeful for Prince. I think he still has the discipline to make great songs like "Cream" or "Endorphinmachine" or "Gold or even "When Doves Cry" again. Until he WANTS to do that, we'll get C-rate material over and over again. I'd be fine with him not releasing anything this year, frankly, or at least not until late in the year. We know he'll never pull stuff out of the vault again, so eh....I'll be digging in the older catalog for musical sustenance. It's statements like these that really anoy me. You really think you can speak for us all. Personally I think the Gold Experience is a good album but not great. I found it overall too bombastic. Prince's Funk in the early 1990's got heavier and for me that wasn't good. You see I prefer 3121, Lotusflow3r and MPLsound over Gold. I ain't saying they're classics but damn fine albums. | |
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Romeoblu said: It's statements like these that really annoy me. You really think you can speak for us all.
Personally I think the Gold Experience is a good album but not great. I found it overall too bombastic. Prince's Funk in the early 1990's got heavier and for me that wasn't good. You see I prefer 3121, Lotusflow3r and MPLsound over Gold. I ain't saying they're classics but damn fine albums. I never said I speak for you. Come down. | |
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I never said I speak for you. Come down.
Prince hasn't had a brilliant record since 1995, and we all know it. | |
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I thought Lotus was awesome and still regularly listen to it a year after it was released. Only downside to that album for me is 77 Beverly Park, other than that I don't ever feel like skipping a track. There's very few P albums where I have 1 or less skippers. RIP  | |
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post-WB releases
Emancipation (3 discs) Kamasutra The Truth Crystal Ball (3 discs) New Power Soul Come 2 My House GCS2000 Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic The Rainbow Children One Nite Alone The Chocolate Invasion The Slaughterhouse X-pectation C-NOTE NEWS One Nite Alone Live (3 discs) Musicology 3121 Milk & Honey Planet Earth Indigo Nights Lotus Flow3r MPLSound Elixir that's 31 discs worth of material in the last 15 years, not even counting one-offs and internet-only stuff, which fills up a good 3 or 4 discs on its own. I'd say he's still pretty prolific. Whether he is in the studio or not. But as far as released music goes, he's more prolific than ever. | |
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ernestsewell said: BoraBora said: I agree with you for the "prolific". P still creating and releasing (in a way or another).
Unfortunately, in the past "Prolific" was coupled with "Quality". Now for my taste is coupled with "Uneven". But maybe it's me growing old. Prince hasn't had a brilliant record since 1995, and we all know it. He's just trying too hard to be what he hates having to be and yet what he wants to be all at the same time. Prince hasn't truly been inspired in a long time. There's the same angry undertone in his music, and a lot of his stuff is just toss offs, and various ideas thrown together. Making music is easy for him. Making brilliant music is a far-fetched idea. But in reality, it's part of aging, isn't it? He's tried a lot of stuff from classical, new age, jazz, funk, rock n' roll, Latin infused, punk, new wave, et al. He doesn't have to prove anything to anyone, this much is true - except to one person: Himself. His ego has told him he doesn't even need to do that anymore. And as usual, his worst enemy is himself. He THINKS he's just as funky and original he was 25 years ago, but he's just not. His fan base has drastically dwindled to well under a million people (as noted by his record sales in the past 15 years). Having said all that, one might think I hate Prince or am negative toward him, but that's far from the truth. I'm not an ass-kisser, but I'm also hopeful for Prince. I think he still has the discipline to make great songs like "Cream" or "Endorphinmachine" or "Gold or even "When Doves Cry" again. Until he WANTS to do that, we'll get C-rate material over and over again. I'd be fine with him not releasing anything this year, frankly, or at least not until late in the year. We know he'll never pull stuff out of the vault again, so eh....I'll be digging in the older catalog for musical sustenance. There U go again. Just cant help yourself Ernie can U. U certainly do not speak for me. |
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polkadotbliss said: gotta aggree really
personally-I'm in no rush for a new disc-or 3 and to be honest-i havent played Lotus set for-well not since november at least though i have been listening to and watching ALOT of Prince lol he'll have to work his lil' ass off to top box of chocolates and making the rain I think what a lot of fans kind of look past is that lotusflow3r is an Emancipation style release when it comes to volume. He wrote 3 albums worth of material with only one remake (Emancipation had 4? I think). However, Emancipation had a more-or-less more cohesive vibe running through the entire album, whereas lotusflow3r sounded a bit more hasty. I do like lotusflow3r & MPLSound from the set, and think it's better than most of his stuff from the last 10 years. I've listened to lotusflow3r many times (though I do skip a couple of tracks), and MPLSound many times in the beginning. So, to me he's still pumping stuff out, but the distribution is shit. | |
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SPOOKYGAS said: ernestsewell said: Prince hasn't had a brilliant record since 1995, and we all know it. He's just trying too hard to be what he hates having to be and yet what he wants to be all at the same time. Prince hasn't truly been inspired in a long time. There's the same angry undertone in his music, and a lot of his stuff is just toss offs, and various ideas thrown together. Making music is easy for him. Making brilliant music is a far-fetched idea. But in reality, it's part of aging, isn't it? He's tried a lot of stuff from classical, new age, jazz, funk, rock n' roll, Latin infused, punk, new wave, et al. He doesn't have to prove anything to anyone, this much is true - except to one person: Himself. His ego has told him he doesn't even need to do that anymore. And as usual, his worst enemy is himself. He THINKS he's just as funky and original he was 25 years ago, but he's just not. His fan base has drastically dwindled to well under a million people (as noted by his record sales in the past 15 years). Having said all that, one might think I hate Prince or am negative toward him, but that's far from the truth. I'm not an ass-kisser, but I'm also hopeful for Prince. I think he still has the discipline to make great songs like "Cream" or "Endorphinmachine" or "Gold or even "When Doves Cry" again. Until he WANTS to do that, we'll get C-rate material over and over again. I'd be fine with him not releasing anything this year, frankly, or at least not until late in the year. We know he'll never pull stuff out of the vault again, so eh....I'll be digging in the older catalog for musical sustenance. There U go again. Just cant help yourself Ernie can U. U certainly do not speak for me. If you wish to be foolish, that's up to you.  | |
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ernestsewell said: SPOOKYGAS said: There U go again. Just cant help yourself Ernie can U. U certainly do not speak for me. If you wish to be foolish, that's up to you. How do you know what WE ALL Know? |
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errant said: post-WB releases
Emancipation (3 discs) Kamasutra The Truth Crystal Ball (3 discs) New Power Soul Come 2 My House GCS2000 Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic The Rainbow Children One Nite Alone The Chocolate Invasion The Slaughterhouse X-pectation C-NOTE NEWS One Nite Alone Live (3 discs) Musicology 3121 Milk & Honey Planet Earth Indigo Nights Lotus Flow3r MPLSound Elixir that's 31 discs worth of material in the last 15 years..... I'm not that impressed. 
Most of these are c-r-a-p! - [Edited 3/29/10 19:03pm] Prince 4Ever.  | |
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ernestsewell said: Romeoblu said: It's statements like these that really annoy me. You really think you can speak for us all.
Personally I think the Gold Experience is a good album but not great. I found it overall too bombastic. Prince's Funk in the early 1990's got heavier and for me that wasn't good. You see I prefer 3121, Lotusflow3r and MPLsound over Gold. I ain't saying they're classics but damn fine albums. I never said I speak for you. Come down. LMAO, you spoke for ALL of us. | |
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Romeoblu said: ernestsewell said: Prince hasn't had a brilliant record since 1995, and we all know it. He's just trying too hard to be what he hates having to be and yet what he wants to be all at the same time. Prince hasn't truly been inspired in a long time. There's the same angry undertone in his music, and a lot of his stuff is just toss offs, and various ideas thrown together. Making music is easy for him. Making brilliant music is a far-fetched idea. But in reality, it's part of aging, isn't it? He's tried a lot of stuff from classical, new age, jazz, funk, rock n' roll, Latin infused, punk, new wave, et al. He doesn't have to prove anything to anyone, this much is true - except to one person: Himself. His ego has told him he doesn't even need to do that anymore. And as usual, his worst enemy is himself. He THINKS he's just as funky and original he was 25 years ago, but he's just not. His fan base has drastically dwindled to well under a million people (as noted by his record sales in the past 15 years). Having said all that, one might think I hate Prince or am negative toward him, but that's far from the truth. I'm not an ass-kisser, but I'm also hopeful for Prince. I think he still has the discipline to make great songs like "Cream" or "Endorphinmachine" or "Gold or even "When Doves Cry" again. Until he WANTS to do that, we'll get C-rate material over and over again. I'd be fine with him not releasing anything this year, frankly, or at least not until late in the year. We know he'll never pull stuff out of the vault again, so eh....I'll be digging in the older catalog for musical sustenance. It's statements like these that really anoy me. You really think you can speak for us all. Personally I think the Gold Experience is a good album but not great. I found it overall too bombastic. Prince's Funk in the early 1990's got heavier and for me that wasn't good. You see I prefer,3121 Lotusflow3r and MPLsound over Gold. I ain't saying they're classics but damn fine albums. 
My personal ratings (post-1995 albums I own): - The Gold Experience (7/10) - Emancipation (7/10) - New Power Soul (4/10) - Rave Un2 The Joy Fantasy (4.5/10) - The Rainbow Children (6/10... sorry!) - One Night Alone (8.5/10) - One Nite Alone ... Live! (8/10) - Musicology (8.5/10) - 3121 (7/10) - Planet Earth (6/10) - LotusFlower/MPLSound (without Elixer, pleeze!) (8.5/10) ... Mind U i think Ltsflwr/PLS and Musicology are better than D&P or "The Love Symbol"... IMHO, of course ...  (please don't  or  me  )Everybody is somebody, but nobody wants to be themselves. | |
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RodeoSchro said: ernestsewell said: I never said I speak for you. Come down. LMAO, you spoke for ALL of us. I'm not arguing the point. | |
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I don't agree with the idea that Prince hasn't had a brilliant record since 1995. There are at least 3 albums that are brilliant to me, post '95. |
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Militant said: I don't agree with the idea that Prince hasn't had a brilliant record since 1995. There are at least 3 albums that are brilliant to me, post '95.
Yeah I'd say 3121 was decent... what the hell, I've always disliked most songs on his albums except for 2-3 gem songs (and I mean since I first heard Purple Rain and worked backwards back in 1984). Always. Then the albums grow on me after a few years. Hmm.... maybe I just never really liked Prince music? lol... actually Black Album I liked intensely, the whole thing. That's what really hooked me into collecting. I always admired the concept of his albums form Around the World to SOTT... he only threw me at Batman which seemed really flat in concept after Lovesexy. But I guess it was worked around the movie. But I do think 3121 is a cohesive album. My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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ernestsewell said: Prince hasn't had a brilliant record since 1995, and we all know it. . Your OPINION. | |
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ufoclub said: Yeah I'd say 3121 was decent.....
But I do think 3121 is a cohesive album. And let's remember, cohesive and fun don't equal "brilliant" or "inspired". I loved 3121, and Planet Earth, but they were far from brilliant or inspired. | |
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ernestsewell said: RodeoSchro said: LMAO, you spoke for ALL of us. I'm not arguing the point. That's because U know U are wrong, how can U know what WE all know? Your opinion is your opinion, do not attempt to speak for others or U will be called. |
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SPOOKYGAS said: ernestsewell said: I'm not arguing the point. That's because U know U are wrong, how can U know what WE all know? Your opinion is your opinion, do not attempt to speak for others or U will be called. I was not wrong. I know what I said, and I stand by it. | |
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ernestsewell said: SPOOKYGAS said: That's because U know U are wrong, how can U know what WE all know? Your opinion is your opinion, do not attempt to speak for others or U will be called. I was not wrong. I know what I said, and I stand by it. People stand by incorrect things all of the time. | |
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ernestsewell said: SPOOKYGAS said: That's because U know U are wrong, how can U know what WE all know? Your opinion is your opinion, do not attempt to speak for others or U will be called. I was not wrong. I know what I said, and I stand by it. Stand by your statement that U think that Prince has not had a brilliant record since 1995, thats fine, but if U stand by the extension to that thought. i.e. 'We all know it' then U look silly and arrogant in equal measures....go on admit U were wrong. |
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the new stuff is making me revisit the old stuff....
cds that i never really gave the time of day ... Come for example ..are actually getting listens. i actually liked half of PE...and i love half of mplsound...havent really listened to LF yet seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before   | |
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SPOOKYGAS said: ernestsewell said: I was not wrong. I know what I said, and I stand by it. Stand by your statement that U think that Prince has not had a brilliant record since 1995, thats fine, but if U stand by the extension to that thought. i.e. 'We all know it' then U look silly and arrogant in equal measures....go on admit U were wrong.   | |
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ernestsewell said: SPOOKYGAS said: Stand by your statement that U think that Prince has not had a brilliant record since 1995, thats fine, but if U stand by the extension to that thought. i.e. 'We all know it' then U look silly and arrogant in equal measures....go on admit U were wrong. I will take that as a retraction. |
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