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Reply #30 posted 12/18/09 12:50am

zaza

thebanishedone said:

Ernerst Jimi Hendrix is maybe the only guitar player
ever that is not over hyped.
only at first sight you notice
feed back but beyond
that is Hendrix amazing sense for melody and passion
contained in every single lick he ever played
not to mention inventive use of playing rhythm guitar
and leads at the same time
.
put solos aside,Jimi's rhythm guitar work is amazing piece of work man.
listen to this song:
Little Wing
Have you ever been to Electric ladyland
Axis:Bold as love
3rd stone from the sun
Pali Gap
Villanova Junction
Wind Cries Mary
Burning of the Midnight Lamp

And Jimi was the only player who could reach for old blues standard and improve it
see :Killing Floor
Nobody ever played guitar the way Jimi did and nobody ever will.
Ernest check This Pali Gap :
http://www.youtube.com/wa...gIaLL-iP0Y

I agree about his rhythm work..the most of guitarists play one chord just in two ways (open chord position and power chord), but Jimi could play one chord in so many positions just by using his thumb.. (Little Wing and Castles Made Of Sand are great examples). This is what the most of people tend to overlook.
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Reply #31 posted 12/18/09 12:55am

zaza

JesusFreak said:

1. Randy Rhoads
2. Jimi Hendrix
3. Stevie Ray Vaughn
4. Eddie Van Halen
5. Slash
6. Brian May
7. Chuck Berry
8. Jimmy Page
9. Angus Young
10. Eric Clapton

This is a good list - but I would rate SRV higher than Hendrix and would add David Gilmour.
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Reply #32 posted 12/18/09 3:08am

jonty1975

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zaza said:

JesusFreak said:

1. Randy Rhoads
2. Jimi Hendrix
3. Stevie Ray Vaughn
4. Eddie Van Halen
5. Slash
6. Brian May
7. Chuck Berry
8. Jimmy Page
9. Angus Young
10. Eric Clapton

This is a good list - but I would rate SRV higher than Hendrix and would add David Gilmour.


what no Prince at all in your top ten?...im only judging by ear as i am not a guitarist so not up on the technical side of it, but P's sound is brilliant..would choose it over half those in the list, but thats just my opinion wink
"was i the first, was i your every fantasy"
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Reply #33 posted 12/18/09 3:21am

iloveannie

Some good comments here and some I actually agree. But it does highlight the simple glaring fact that what we are all expressing is personal preference. I think Prince is an awesome player and would love to be able to have my own style yet I still don't think he'd appear in my Top Ten. When there are people like Brian May, Joe Satriani, Johnny Marr, Stevie Ray Vaughan, John Mayer, Angus Young, Jimi Hendrix, Billy Gibbons, Jeff Beck, John Squire, the list goes on (nice mention of Robert Smith by the way).

Shall we break it down into genres or discipline even? How about fingerstyle compared to flatpick guitarists? Flamenco? Or bluegrass players, they're fairly awesome you know? How about classically trained guitarists, Baroque to contemporary? Or shall we just stick with those that never learnt past the two pentatonics? How about those that influenced popular music as opposed to those with a skill that goes far beyond the simplistic music that we, the masses, listen to?
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Reply #34 posted 12/18/09 3:24am

zaza

jonty1975 said:

zaza said:


This is a good list - but I would rate SRV higher than Hendrix and would add David Gilmour.


what no Prince at all in your top ten?...im only judging by ear as i am not a guitarist so not up on the technical side of it, but P's sound is brilliant..would choose it over half those in the list, but thats just my opinion wink

Of course P would be in my Top 10 wink But this list is much better than the one with Robert Smith in it lol

My 12 favourite guitarists (each one has different qualities):
SRV
Hendrix
Prince
David Gilmour
Jimmy Page
Slash
Billy Corgan
Stevie Vai
Dimebag Darrell
Johnny Greenwood
James Dean Bradfield
Tom Morello

I'm not saying they're greatest - just my favourite wink
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Reply #35 posted 12/18/09 3:32am

iloveannie

zaza said:

jonty1975 said:



what no Prince at all in your top ten?...im only judging by ear as i am not a guitarist so not up on the technical side of it, but P's sound is brilliant..would choose it over half those in the list, but thats just my opinion wink

Of course P would be in my Top 10 wink But this list is much better than the one with Robert Smith in it lol

My 12 favourite guitarists (each one has different qualities):
SRV
Hendrix
Prince
David Gilmour
Jimmy Page
Slash
Billy Corgan
Stevie Vai
Dimebag Darrell
Johnny Greenwood
James Dean Bradfield
Tom Morello

I'm not saying they're greatest - just my favourite wink


Nearly every single one of the above bases their playing on the blues scale. Funny that wink
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Reply #36 posted 12/18/09 3:32am

zaza

iloveannie said:

Some good comments here and some I actually agree. But it does highlight the simple glaring fact that what we are all expressing is personal preference. I think Prince is an awesome player and would love to be able to have my own style yet I still don't think he'd appear in my Top Ten. When there are people like Brian May, Joe Satriani,Johnny Marr, Stevie Ray Vaughan, John Mayer, Angus Young, Jimi Hendrix, Billy Gibbons, Jeff Beck, John Squire, the list goes on (nice mention of Robert Smith by the way).

Great mentions of those two great brit-pop guitarists! "This Charming Man" is great example of Marr's guitar playing and Stone Roses debut cd is one of the greatest - you can listen to it all over again as Purple Rain album music
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Reply #37 posted 12/18/09 3:36am

zaza

iloveannie said:

zaza said:


Of course P would be in my Top 10 wink But this list is much better than the one with Robert Smith in it lol

My 12 favourite guitarists (each one has different qualities):
SRV
Hendrix
Prince
David Gilmour
Jimmy Page
Slash
Billy Corgan
Stevie Vai
Dimebag Darrell
Johnny Greenwood
James Dean Bradfield
Tom Morello

I'm not saying they're greatest - just my favourite wink


Nearly every single one of the above bases their playing on the blues scale. Funny that wink

Damn, you're right! eek lol Blues scale is one of the most "popular" and easy to learn..since you know how to play blues scale, it's easy to play the others. And I forget to add to my list J.Mascis - he's stunning live guitar
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Reply #38 posted 12/18/09 3:53am

luvsexy4all

randy rhoads
terry kath
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Reply #39 posted 12/18/09 5:08am

iloveannie

zaza said:

iloveannie said:



Nearly every single one of the above bases their playing on the blues scale. Funny that wink

Damn, you're right! eek lol Blues scale is one of the most "popular" and easy to learn..since you know how to play blues scale, it's easy to play the others. And I forget to add to my list J.Mascis - he's stunning live guitar


Johnny Marr was saying in Guitarist magazine the other month how he purposefully chose the Fender Jag as it changes the way you play and that he consciously steers clear as much as possible from the blues as it is so common and requires so little thought on behalf of the player. Basically he was saying that (in standard tuning) the guitar lends itself to easily to the pentatonics and it is too easy to find yourself not trying to play anything else.

Wise words. Prince take note. Oh, it's too late, you're already cliched like the rest of us wink
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Reply #40 posted 12/18/09 5:17am

zaza

iloveannie said:

zaza said:


Damn, you're right! eek lol Blues scale is one of the most "popular" and easy to learn..since you know how to play blues scale, it's easy to play the others. And I forget to add to my list J.Mascis - he's stunning live guitar


Johnny Marr was saying in Guitarist magazine the other month how he purposefully chose the Fender Jag as it changes the way you play and that he consciously steers clear as much as possible from the blues as it is so common and requires so little thought on behalf of the player. Basically he was saying that (in standard tuning) the guitar lends itself to easily to the pentatonics and it is too easy to find yourself not trying to play anything else.

Wise words. Prince take note. Oh, it's too late, you're already cliched like the rest of us wink

That's sooo true
lol
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Reply #41 posted 12/18/09 5:29am

Pastel

Hi, this is my team:

1.Steve Vai
2.Prince
3.Pete Townshend
4.james honeyman-scott
5.Jake E. Lee
6.Jimmy Page
7.Robert Fripp
8.Adrian Belew
9.Randy Rhoads
10.Ritchie Blackmoore

Slds!
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Reply #42 posted 12/18/09 6:58am

Riverpoet31

In no particular order:

1. Richard Thompson (Fairport Convention, with Linda Thompson, solo)
Probably my favourite all-time guitarist. Both acoustic and electric he is a genious.

2. Prince
Prince tends to overindulgence himself with his live-solo's, but on the occasions he hits it good he hits it really good. Also the most versatile guitarist on album from my list.

3. David Hidalgo (Los Lobos)
Simple, understated, but always classy and soulfull.

4. Nick Drake
When this would be an acoustic guitarist-list alone, Nick would be the undisputable nr. 1. Great technique and creativity combined.

5. Ty Tabor (King's X, The Jellyjam, solo)
Especially for his low-tuned monster-riffs. As a soloist he isnt bad either, with touches of Brian May and Hendrix.

6. Peter Buck (REM, different hobby-bands)
Peter is technically quite limited and he is mostly a crappy soloist, but his his jangly 'folk-rock' riffs outshine those of Roger McQuin.

7. Tres Manos (Urban Dance Squad / The Yearlings)
This guy is so versatile, and good in every style he plays: wether its funky Tom Morello-like riffs and wild soloing on the albums of Urban Dance Squad, or his jangle-riffs and pedal steel work on the albums of the Yearlings.

8. Gary Louris (The Jayhawks)
My favourite guitarist in the country-rock field.

9. Joni Mitchell
For her acoustic work (Live, the Blue album)

10.Karl Wallinger (Waterboys, Worldparty)
He doesnt show it often live, and he is a bit of a 'copycat', but a very good one at least.
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Reply #43 posted 12/18/09 7:30am

TrevorAyer

nah not technically but definately more interestingly in my book tech skills mean nothing ... rob smith is more of a sonic sound than a shred sound and his guitar work is by far more interesting than prince who generally is non melodic in his guitar playing

nyse said:

TrevorAyer said:


robert smith
david gilmore
Prince



I am a absolute huge fan of robert smith who IS the cure.

but 2 think robert can solo better than Prince is absolutly wacky

nutso
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Reply #44 posted 12/18/09 7:40am

TrevorAyer

zaza said:

TrevorAyer said:

kirk hammett sucks ... he just plays fast but not even in key and not interestingly out of key either .. just hits wah and blah

Ehm..can you play just one solo by Kirk?? Do you?



when i first was teaching myself guitar 20 years ago i learned the master of puppets album note for note ... nowadays mmm i've kindof forgetten it but yeah kirk kinda wanks alot i usually wonder what he was thinkin it sounds like hes just putting together something fast a lot of the time ... there are a few good moments but fairly typical runs that these shredders throw into songs
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Reply #45 posted 12/18/09 7:44am

TrevorAyer

thebanishedone said:

Trevor Ayer its ok that u listen Prince so long,but
are you a guitar player,and if you are have you ever tried to pick Prince's guitar solos?
Prince's guitar solo are very well composed and yes melodic content is always there

While My guitar is nice solo but it's pretty basic for what Prince can play,
Trevor please rate this solos from 1 to 5 in your opinion

Just My Imagination
I could Never Take the Place of your Man

My love is Forever

Get it Up

West
Joy in Repetition Aftershow



get it up is from what ... i must not have heard that one
ive always loved imagination but for the song and his singing i will go relisten
west was a bore
joy is a favorite but again just a minor scale he throws in all his tunes
same with place of your man ... great song!!! solo is pretty simple and ok 3 of 5 i will have to dig out my vinyl for that other tune ... i really liked my gentle guitar not for his typical high notes that he throws in but for some of the harmonic lower runs and those pull offs he thru in ... the rest is strait up cut and paste prince guitar solo
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Reply #46 posted 12/18/09 7:47am

TrevorAyer

zaza said:

jonty1975 said:



what no Prince at all in your top ten?...im only judging by ear as i am not a guitarist so not up on the technical side of it, but P's sound is brilliant..would choose it over half those in the list, but thats just my opinion wink

Of course P would be in my Top 10 wink But this list is much better than the one with Robert Smith in it lol

My 12 favourite guitarists (each one has different qualities):
SRV
Hendrix
Prince
David Gilmour
Jimmy Page
Slash
Billy Corgan
Stevie Vai
Dimebag Darrell
Johnny Greenwood
James Dean Bradfield
Tom Morello

I'm not saying they're greatest - just my favourite wink


i like tom morello too ,... he does some pretty cool stuff at times as does billy corgan ... pushes it
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Reply #47 posted 12/18/09 8:04am

iloveannie

TrevorAyer said:


i like tom morello too ,... he does some pretty cool stuff at times as does billy corgan ... pushes it


Ah, Tom and the Digitech Whammy. But how well was it used by Gilmour on The Blue smile It just didn't sound like it! Cracking use of it if you ask me.
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Reply #48 posted 12/18/09 8:07am

zaza

TrevorAyer said:

zaza said:


Ehm..can you play just one solo by Kirk?? Do you?



when i first was teaching myself guitar 20 years ago i learned the master of puppets album note for note ... nowadays mmm i've kindof forgetten it but yeah kirk kinda wanks alot i usually wonder what he was thinkin it sounds like hes just putting together something fast a lot of the time ... there are a few good moments but fairly typical runs that these shredders throw into songs

I have to agree that nowadays his solos are just the same, but in 80's when Metallica was that big trashmetal creature, his playing was very inspirational and he laid "blueprint" for trashmetal solos (Dimebag took it to another level with his Van Halen influence). And he will be always far more interesting than Kerry "I'm so evil but boring" King.
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Reply #49 posted 12/18/09 8:09am

Imago

zaza said:

TrevorAyer said:




when i first was teaching myself guitar 20 years ago i learned the master of puppets album note for note ... nowadays mmm i've kindof forgetten it but yeah kirk kinda wanks alot i usually wonder what he was thinkin it sounds like hes just putting together something fast a lot of the time ... there are a few good moments but fairly typical runs that these shredders throw into songs

I have to agree that nowadays his solos are just the same, but in 80's when Metallica was that big trashmetal creature, his playing was very inspirational and he laid "blueprint" for trashmetal solos (Dimebag took it to another level with his Van Halen influence). And he will be always far more interesting than Kerry "I'm so evil but boring" King.



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Reply #50 posted 12/18/09 8:12am

zaza

TrevorAyer said:

zaza said:


Of course P would be in my Top 10 wink But this list is much better than the one with Robert Smith in it lol

My 12 favourite guitarists (each one has different qualities):
SRV
Hendrix
Prince
David Gilmour
Jimmy Page
Slash
Billy Corgan
Stevie Vai
Dimebag Darrell
Johnny Greenwood
James Dean Bradfield
Tom Morello

I'm not saying they're greatest - just my favourite wink


i like tom morello too ,... he does some pretty cool stuff at times as does billy corgan ... pushes it

yeahthat He "keeps it interesting" in the times when all those G3 shredders were just playing as fast as you can (Malmsteen, you know I'm talking 'bout you hmm). And Corgan's use of effects..ahh, just listen to his solo in "Starla" music
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Reply #51 posted 12/18/09 8:13am

zaza

Imago said:

zaza said:


I have to agree that nowadays his solos are just the same, but in 80's when Metallica was that big trashmetal creature, his playing was very inspirational and he laid "blueprint" for trashmetal solos (Dimebag took it to another level with his Van Halen influence). And he will be always far more interesting than Kerry "I'm so evil but boring" King.



I miss you in General Discussion neutral



Get back in there neutral

I'll be back! wink
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Reply #52 posted 12/18/09 8:23am

Imago

zaza said:

Imago said:




I miss you in General Discussion neutral



Get back in there neutral

I'll be back! wink

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Reply #53 posted 12/18/09 8:27am

zaza

Imago said:

zaza said:


I'll be back! wink


Oh my GAWD! falloff That's what I call shredding! lol
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Reply #54 posted 12/18/09 8:31am

thebanishedone

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Trvor get it up is on the time first album
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Reply #55 posted 12/18/09 8:52am

JesusFreak

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zaza said:

JesusFreak said:

1. Randy Rhoads
2. Jimi Hendrix
3. Stevie Ray Vaughn
4. Eddie Van Halen
5. Slash
6. Brian May
7. Chuck Berry
8. Jimmy Page
9. Angus Young
10. Eric Clapton

This is a good list - but I would rate SRV higher than Hendrix and would add David Gilmour.


what no Prince at all in your top ten?...im only judging by ear as i am not a guitarist so not up on the technical side of it, but P's sound is brilliant..would choose it over half those in the list, but thats just my opinion wink


I was debating whether to put Prince in there or not.. but when I individually evaluated each player's calibre to Prince's... he simply can not stand up to them. Clapton's the only player whom I think Prince might have an edge over, due to technicality.. but in terms of the influence those player's have had on society... Prince can't hold a candle to em!

I chose my list based on the influence, innovation, and impact they've had.

Angus Young loves his pentatonic blues scale- heck that's all he infamously plays! Sure Prince would totally school him with his knowledge in theory. Yet in the long run Angus's simple riffs and solos are more prominent than P's in history.

But if Prince's playing touches you more, than i'll respect that. Everyone's built differently.

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I wouldn't have put SRV over Hendrix cause Hendrix had twice the range/sounds and complete *out of the box* licks and riffs compared to him.
"Not to sound cosmic, but I've made plans for the next 3,000 years," he says. "Before, it was only three days at a time."
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Reply #56 posted 12/18/09 9:00am

zaza

JesusFreak said:[quote]

zaza said:



what no Prince at all in your top ten?...im only judging by ear as i am not a guitarist so not up on the technical side of it, but P's sound is brilliant..would choose it over half those in the list, but thats just my opinion wink


I was debating whether to put Prince in there or not.. but when I individually evaluated each player's calibre to Prince's... he simply can not stand up to them. Clapton's the only player whom I think Prince might have an edge over, due to technicality.. but in terms of the influence those player's have had on society... Prince can't hold a candle to em!

I chose my list based on the influence, innovation, and impact they've had.

Angus Young loves his pentatonic blues scale- heck that's all he infamously plays! Sure Prince would totally school him with his knowledge in theory. Yet in the long run Angus's simple riffs and solos are more prominent than P's in history.

But if Prince's playing touches you more, than i'll respect that. Everyone's built differently.

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I wouldn't have put SRV over Hendrix cause Hendrix had twice the range/sounds and complete *out of the box* licks and riffs compared to him.

That's true nod Ok, we will agree that both of them were amazing talents wink
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Reply #57 posted 12/18/09 9:14am

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1. Les Paul
2. Hendrix
3. Jeff Beck
4. Eddie Van Halen
5. Frampton
6. Brian May
7. Prince
8. Jimmy Page
9. Joe Perry
10.Eric Clapton


Al Di Meola .. Reeves Gabrels .Steve Vai . Steve Stevens Earl Slick .. Edge ...Adrian Belew ... Rodolph Shenker . Tony Iommi..Carlos Alomar .. Ron Wood . Tom Morello Dave Navarro .Satriani . Sambora .. Hammett ... the list is endless.
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Reply #58 posted 12/18/09 9:30am

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Holy crap I forgot about Peter Frampton. He's a deffiniant notable mention!
"Not to sound cosmic, but I've made plans for the next 3,000 years," he says. "Before, it was only three days at a time."
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Reply #59 posted 12/18/09 11:37pm

iloveannie

JesusFreak said:

I was debating whether to put Prince in there or not.. but when I individually evaluated each player's calibre to Prince's... he simply can not stand up to them.

I chose my list based on the influence, innovation, and impact they've had.

Yet in the long run Angus's simple riffs and solos are more prominent than P's in history.

But if Prince's playing touches you more, than i'll respect that. Everyone's built differently.


In bold is the big statement. That's the one that keeps Prince and countless others from being in the "Top Ten Lists".

If you wanna be a guitar hero you have to forsake all else for that instrument.
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