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Jealousy - and Prince..? don't U feel a little jealous on other artists' success..? Prince is never in the media, (unless it's something silly about anorexia or his hips),
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If his music had gotten terrible as time flew by (can you say Stevie Wonder?), then I can understand...but his music is stellar still...it deserves coverage.
MJ was a brilliant singer/dancer...best of all time, however, that's all he was. Let's not compare him to Prince, best musician of all time, but rather, compare him to someone like Sammy Davis Jr (who I don't hear anyone calling a musical genius). | |
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thedance said: Prince is never in the media, (unless it's something silly about anorexia or his hips),
No reports on MTV, no airplay on radio etc, etc.... Other artists gets all the spotlight. Don't you feel a little jealous, on other artists and their success: 
The fact that Prince and his music never gets any exposure. The importance of Prince and his music is very low, he doesn't have any impact on the world no more..... if I wasn't here on the org I wouldn't know about him at all. It's kind of sad really. Well imo. And I feel a little jealous. What do YOU think?? >>>> Please no MJ talking, or else this is locked in no time... <<<<
[Edited 10/28/09 3:31am] It doesn't bother me one bit. Name one musician who had been bang in the media (for the right reasons) in a career that has spanned 30+ years....it just doesn't happen. Music changes as do taste, you can either chase it and use the lifejacket approach to stay cool by surrounding yourself with people you know 'the kids' love like Madonna does.....staying afloat that way. Or you do your own thing and accept that the majority won't like it and even some of your fans may leave. When Prince changed his name he made a comment that he wanted to become less famous - he's decided to get out of the media. Let's be fair - at one time the big 3 were Prince, MJ and Madonna....that probably stood until the mid 90's but look at the legacy and it will show you where real priorities lie.... Prince and MJ inspired hundreds and thousands of musicians to be musicians...they faded from the limelight but still continued to be quoted as inspirational to some great musicians. Madonna is still around and, some may say, embarassing herself on a regular basis and she's stayed afloat as described....the majority of people who claim she is inspirational tend to be those who just crave fame or aren't exactly know solely for thier credible skills No I'm not jealous - he's 'had his time', I dont think his current output is overlooked it just not good enough or on the button (downside of thinking he knows better than record companies) and, if he was on the news constantly he'd have to be going the life jacket route....he's 50,tiny, he plays real instruments, he wears heels and make up.....if your trying to sell to Burberry wearing, gold chain sporting, happyslappers who would stab thier own friends for a 'gay' comment.... Perhaps Prince isn't your ideal figurehead [Edited 10/28/09 4:45am] | |
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Purple Rain was #1 for nigh on 6 months, he's been there.
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Revolution said: If his music had gotten terrible as time flew by (can you say Stevie Wonder?), then I can understand...but his music is stellar still...it deserves coverage.
I'm convinced that Prince still holds the ball though, and he commands attention as he sees fit....Really, the spotlight is turned off of him because of him. 
No need to feel jealous 'thedance'. (IMO) Prince likes it that way and he knows exactly what to do if he wants the musical spotlight on him. He just chooses not to and apparently, it doesn't bother him. Check it out...how much of the songs/music played these days would stand the test of time?... ... 
Don't worry I'll wait... ... 
See what I mean? Hardly any if ever! Nuh mek it bother u  People Call me Rude
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not at all...and i think he's also proven that he does not need the digital garden aka, mainstream media; and when he does, he calls the shots.
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Why should he be jealous? He had his time in the spotlight and he is still living a very pampered life and has the respect of many in the music business!
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purpledoveuk said: .Madonna is still around and, some may say, embarassing herself on a regular basis and she's stayed afloat as described....the majority of people who claim she is inspirational tend to be those who just crave fame or aren't exactly know solely for thier credible skills.
So Madonna fans are shallow & lame because they find her inspirational. You are right - you aren't jealous - just a snob.  | |
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I think that Prince has done a good job at keeping to himself a little bit.
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thedance said: Prince is never in the media, (unless it's something silly about anorexia or his hips),
No reports on MTV, no airplay on radio etc, etc.... Other artists gets all the spotlight. Don't you feel a little jealous, on other artists and their success:
The fact that Prince and his music never gets any exposure. The importance of Prince and his music is very low, he doesn't have any impact on the world no more..... if I wasn't here on the org I wouldn't know about him at all. It's kind of sad really. Well imo. And I feel a little jealous. What do YOU think?? >>>> Please no MJ talking, or else this is locked in no time... <<<<
[Edited 10/28/09 3:31am] 1. Go ahead and look up all of Prince's major media/tv appearances from 2004 until now. He has performed/appeared all over the place...including specials on MTV, Vh1, and BET. In fact, I would argue that he is reaching a larger TV audience than ever before...considering things like The Superbowl, etc. 2. The is this illusion that things like MTV and radio airplay are an indicator of success or the after effects of artistic/popular achievment. The fact is, they are promotion, business and $$$. Pay to get played. [Edited 10/28/09 6:48am] "I'VE GOT A MIND FULL OF GOOD INTENTIONS
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I wouldn't call it "jealousy", it's just annoying that good music gets overshadowed by crap. and for me, it's way more than a Prince thing.
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thedance said: Prince is never in the media, (unless it's something silly about anorexia or his hips),
No reports on MTV, no airplay on radio etc, etc.... Other artists gets all the spotlight. Don't you feel a little jealous, on other artists and their success:
The fact that Prince and his music never gets any exposure. The importance of Prince and his music is very low, he doesn't have any impact on the world no more..... if I wasn't here on the org I wouldn't know about him at all. It's kind of sad really. Well imo. And I feel a little jealous. What do YOU think?? >>>> Please no MJ talking, or else this is locked in no time... <<<<
[Edited 10/28/09 3:31am] You're delusional. Prince gets plenty of coverage. | |
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ButterscotchPimp said: I wouldn't call it "jealousy", it's just annoying that good music gets overshadowed by crap.
Exactly... it's like Prince doesn't fit into the modern music industry, He wants to be free >< & the industry dislikes his music - post 1995. I guess those 2 factors made him "disappear" as an important artist? an example: Chocolate Box has been played 0 times on VH1 Denmark, afaik. Madonna, just to mention 1 artist... she's successfull here, every single release gets airplay and her latest videos gets in rotation, Prince? nothing is happening, the LF/ MPLS album was ignorred by the danish media, only gaffa.dk wrote a review. Back in the old days a Prince release meant huge coverage in media..... It hurts to see a big star like Prince being ignorred by the reviewers/ danish papers, now Prince is completely overshadowed by younger generations / other genres. Imo.. a lot of crap artists gets the spotlight now, He's almost invissible here, if it wasn't for the internet/ this fan forum. I'm a little jealous on an artist like Madonna, her music is crap (imo.), but she still gets a lot of coverage, she gets the spotlight while Prince is "in the dark"... What I hope for - ? a hit album again, something that will make people wake up and say: "WOW... Prince's music is brilliant". For me that hasn't happened since The Gold Experience & the good old days at Warner Bros. Hello... I'm Come funkateer 'Danceelectric'
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thedance said: ButterscotchPimp said: I wouldn't call it "jealousy", it's just annoying that good music gets overshadowed by crap.
Exactly... it's like Prince doesn't fit into the modern music industry, He wants to be free >< & the industry dislikes his music - post 1995. I guess those 2 factors made him "disappear" as an important artist? an example: Chocolate Box has been played 0 times on VH1 Denmark, afaik. Madonna, just to mention 1 artist... she's successfull here, every single release gets airplay and her latest videos gets in rotation, Prince? nothing is happening, the LF/ MPLS album was ignorred by the danish media, only gaffa.dk wrote a review. Back in the old days a Prince release meant huge coverage in media..... It hurts to see a big star like Prince being ignorred by the reviewers/ danish papers, now Prince is completely overshadowed by younger generations / other genres. Imo.. a lot of crap artists gets the spotlight now, He's almost invissible here, if it wasn't for the internet/ this fan forum. I'm a little jealous on an artist like Madonna, her music is crap (imo.), but she still gets a lot of coverage, she gets the spotlight while Prince is "in the dark"... What I hope for - ? a hit album again, something that will make people wake up and say: "WOW... Prince's music is brilliant". For me that hasn't happened since The Gold Experience & the good old days at Warner Bros. But it's not just a Prince thing. I've always hated Madonna. She's a prime example of what's wrong with people's taste in music. She can't sing or write. But she's viewed as a trendsetter. When all she really did was hang out in gay clubs and then take what she heard there and mass market it to others. it's bigger than Prince. Lady Gaga is like the new Madonna, but for the most part Amy Winehouse has been reduced to tabloid fodder when Amy's albums are far and away light years ahead of "Poker Face". it's ridiculous. seriously, i'm gonna go on a classic rant in a bit. http://www.myspace.com/butterscotchpimp
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I understand the jealousy point but I wouldn't waste my energy on it tho to be honest I have. If we stand outside it there is no artist out there of Prince's age that is doing necessarily much better and when they do it is Barbara Streisand where age is not really a factor. Madonna is the exception that proves the rule, tho as stated earlier here.... Also I think major success requires major financial outlay and I think Prince can work now at the level where he earns considerable chunks of cash, to push Prince into the Madonna sales league would require a major financial gamble that I don't think he or a record label would gamble upon. A minimum of 500,000 sales at cheap production cost and no major distribution is a tidy drop to whic other artists would probably have tpo sell 8 million before they saw a return on investment and their personal bank account receiving some cash. Point is I think Prince in the last deacde has had to focuse on money and I think it has worked out for him | |
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thedance said: Prince is never in the media, (unless it's something silly about anorexia or his hips),
No reports on MTV, no airplay on radio etc, etc.... Other artists gets all the spotlight. Don't you feel a little jealous, on other artists and their success:
The fact that Prince and his music never gets any exposure. The importance of Prince and his music is very low, he doesn't have any impact on the world no more..... if I wasn't here on the org I wouldn't know about him at all. It's kind of sad really. Well imo. And I feel a little jealous. What do YOU think?? >>>> Please no MJ talking, or else this is locked in no time... <<<<
[Edited 10/28/09 3:31am] Not sure what you would want. Prince has always seemed uncomfortable with mass acceptance. He could have been a lot bigger star if that was what he was after. | |
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NO. What other artists? You're the one that doesn't understand that Prince has already been there. |
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thedoorkeeper said: purpledoveuk said: .Madonna is still around and, some may say, embarassing herself on a regular basis and she's stayed afloat as described....the majority of people who claim she is inspirational tend to be those who just crave fame or aren't exactly know solely for thier credible skills.
So Madonna fans are shallow & lame because they find her inspirational. You are right - you aren't jealous - just a snob. Not to speak for them, but I think purpledoveuk was referring to music acts who are quoted as finding Madonna 'inspirational', not her fans. | |
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nope not at all im happy because im huge fans of other artists as well as Prince  may u live 2 see the dawn
a yo prince im really happy for you imma let you finish but Michael Jackson had one of the best records of all time! |
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I think that Prince is happier out of the spotlight to be honest. I do wish that more younger people (other than me) would give Prince a chance though; I have requested Prince at 2 clubs and the DJ's both just laughed at me! I was so indescribably angry considering the crap that they were playing. 'Sex is not all I think about, it's just all I think about... you.' | |
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thedance said: Prince is never in the media, (unless it's something silly about anorexia or his hips),
No reports on MTV, no airplay on radio etc, etc.... Other artists gets all the spotlight. Don't you feel a little jealous, on other artists and their success:
The fact that Prince and his music never gets any exposure. The importance of Prince and his music is very low, he doesn't have any impact on the world no more..... if I wasn't here on the org I wouldn't know about him at all. It's kind of sad really. Well imo. And I feel a little jealous. What do YOU think?? >>>> Please no MJ talking, or else this is locked in no time... <<<<
[Edited 10/28/09 3:31am] If it wasnt for the org, you wouldnt know him at all??? The man has been in Rolling stone magazine and other music oriented magazines more in the past 5 years than anytime I can remember since the late 80's and early, EARLY 90's. Had the most memorable Rock n Roll Hall of Fame performances of all time in 2004. Had the most successful tour of 2004. Has debuted in the billboard top ten, 4 albums in a row since 2004. Won grammys in recent years. Won a golden globe for Song of the heart from "Happy Feet". Broke the attendance records for the Staples Center in 2004, then turned around and broke his own record the 2nd time through. Broke sell out records for the O2 arena 21 nights straight. Had, argueably, the best Superbowl halftime show of all time. He was a regular performer on the Tonight Show. The 20th anniversary edition dvd of the most successful "music" movie ever made. All this and MORE happened in the last 5 years. Even if the org didnt exist...How could anyone with eyes, ears, and any access to media not know who Prince is? | |
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renkitsune said: I think that Prince is happier out of the spotlight to be honest. I do wish that more younger people (other than me) would give Prince a chance though; I have requested Prince at 2 clubs and the DJ's both just laughed at me! I was so indescribably angry considering the crap that they were playing.
And some guy at my work who claimed to have a 'really wide ranging music taste' had never even heard of Prince!!! Or David Bowie! Can you believe that? Ugh. Does he know the Earth is round ? ..... Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
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LondonStyle said: Does he know the Earth is round ? ..... I know, I thought he was joking at first but he really wasn't. When I said 'Prince' he though I was talking about Freddie Mercury(!), he said 'Didn't they used to call him the Prince?' 
There is no hope for him. Though something amazing happened afterwards while I was ranting at him, I shouted 'What sort of a person doesn't know who Prince is, have you been living in a cave your whole life??' and a customer overheard and started singing 'Kiss' to him, it was amazing  'Sex is not all I think about, it's just all I think about... you.' | |
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LondonStyle said: renkitsune said: I think that Prince is happier out of the spotlight to be honest. I do wish that more younger people (other than me) would give Prince a chance though; I have requested Prince at 2 clubs and the DJ's both just laughed at me! I was so indescribably angry considering the crap that they were playing.
And some guy at my work who claimed to have a 'really wide ranging music taste' had never even heard of Prince!!! Or David Bowie! Can you believe that? Ugh. Does he know the Earth is round ? ..... I know how you feel. Its ridiculous! Ive called KISS 95.1 (charlotte nc radio station) and requested songs off every album he's released since 1996 and they havent had anything. 13 years and not one new song! Yet I can hear "Go shawty, its your birthday..Go shawty its your birthday, gonna drink bacardi like its your birthday... blah blah blah.. and we dont dont give a F*** that its your birthday". But Crimson and Clover isnt mainstream?...Lol...Idiots | |
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I'd rather he only be mentioned in the media if it pertains to his music and not his personal life. Most of todays artists are in the media for all the wrong reasons and it's sickening. It's always "she's not wearing underwear","Jon Mayer is dating...","Jessica Simpson is dating...". never any real info about the music or anything truly relevant. I've got a new thread and a dildo 4 U. If U don't like the new thread then U can go fuck yourself! | |
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well in todays entertainment world you have to do something lame or dumb like cut off all your hair off, post naked pics of yourself online and claim it was stolen from your password protect mobile device or have a song about something so crapless with annoying repeatative hooks that dont mean anything to get exposure
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I dunno--he's been on Jay Leno recently, the (bleh!) show American Idol, as well as other venues... It's amazing how he keeps himself in the media with no major label backing him! A true pioneer...although I think keeping his videos off Youtube is a big mistake as far as marketing goes! I'm not a woman, I'm not a man
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skywalker said: thedance said: Prince is never in the media, (unless it's something silly about anorexia or his hips),
No reports on MTV, no airplay on radio etc, etc.... Other artists gets all the spotlight. Don't you feel a little jealous, on other artists and their success:
The fact that Prince and his music never gets any exposure. The importance of Prince and his music is very low, he doesn't have any impact on the world no more..... if I wasn't here on the org I wouldn't know about him at all. It's kind of sad really. Well imo. And I feel a little jealous. What do YOU think?? >>>> Please no MJ talking, or else this is locked in no time... <<<<
[Edited 10/28/09 3:31am] 1. Go ahead and look up all of Prince's major media/tv appearances from 2004 until now. He has performed/appeared all over the place...including specials on MTV, Vh1, and BET. In fact, I would argue that he is reaching a larger TV audience than ever before...considering things like The Superbowl, etc. 2. The is this illusion that things like MTV and radio airplay are an indicator of success or the after effects of artistic/popular achievment. The fact is, they are promotion, business and $$$. Pay to get played. [Edited 10/28/09 6:48am] 1. You're absolutely right he's been on plenty of TV shows - but with the exception of the occasional interview, it's just him playing his 80's hits (maybe he'll through in a new song as part of a medley but you get my point). He's not on TV because of his new materials. He's on TV because people love watching him perform his old material. There's a big difference there that other artists aren't experiencing. Look at Madonna - her music is arguably crap - but for a while there she was getting air play and TV play beacuse of the new music -- granted, she brought in new artists like Timbaland and Justin Timberlake so that may account for why - but she got some play for her new stuff. 2. You're also right on about Radio. It's definitely pay to play. But let's face it - to be relevant in today's music you gotta be played -- somewhere -- whether that be the radio or the club -- even if it required "paying" to be played. Now, some artists have gone the alternate route of just pushing their mix tapes on the street to gain popularity (see Lil Wayne and 50 Cent), but most sought record labels who in turn put them on the radio. While I agree with you it's a b.s. industry, until/unless Prince starts opening up his bootlegs and launches a legitimate and viable underground alternative, his lack of radio/club play will render him irrelevant in today's music. Not saying it's right or warranted, but it is fact. | |
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I much prefer Prince being a little underground and not heard of.
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