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My updated review of 1999 My love for this album is pretty well established over the years here. "I'm a lover, not a haitcher"- Pandurito
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Amazing review Ian, a really fitting tribute to a brilliant album. Thank you for writing it and sharing it with us.
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Masterpiece of an album. 1999 will always be special because it was my introduction to prince. From there I went on to parliament funkadelic sly stone miles davis etc. | |
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Diva said: Amazing review Ian, a really fitting tribute to a brilliant album. Thank you for writing it and sharing it with us.
Prince Ian/Moonbeam 1999 Thanks, babe! "I'm a lover, not a haitcher"- Pandurito
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I disagree C:\Otaassk~.exe Seriously, this thread makes no fucking sense: http://prince.org/msg/15/321025 vivid is my new boo! | |
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Imago said: I disagree
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ok, I finally read it.
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Imago said: . I don't care for the closer , International Lover though. So aside from the opening and closing tracks, I quite like 1999 even though I think it sounds a bit dated Do you know why it sounds dated? It came out 27 years ago!!! JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!! | |
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Paris9748430 said: Imago said: . I don't care for the closer , International Lover though. So aside from the opening and closing tracks, I quite like 1999 even though I think it sounds a bit dated Do you know why it sounds dated? It came out 27 years ago!!! wrong answer SOTT, LoveSExy, the Black Album. None of those sound dated. C:\Otaassk~.exe Seriously, this thread makes no fucking sense: http://prince.org/msg/15/321025 vivid is my new boo! | |
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Imago said: ok, I finally read it.
Beautiful review. Although I've never been impressed by 1999-the song, I do find the album to be a cut about many in his arsenal of great albums. For some reason 1999 just sounds like repetitious synth-pop to me. I do remember that back in the day when we heard the initial "Don't worry, I won't hurt you..." lead-in, everyone in my circle of friends knew we were about to be bombarded with funk. There simply was nothing out at the time that matched 1999 in originality. Also, the fact that he let his songs get dark and artsy fartsy really set him appart from the folks who ruled the airways at the time (Rick Srpingfield, Olivia Newton John, and old wave Brit-pop) who chose to do 3 minute songs in a verse/chorus-verse/chorus-guitar-solo-verse/chorus pattern I also agree Free gave hints of what was to come. I don't understand the hate this song receives. I don't love the song myself, but it's actually better than songs like Graffiti Bridge which fit in that vein. I don't care for the closer , International Lover though. So aside from the opening and closing tracks, I quite like 1999 even though I think it sounds a bit dated The instruments that Prince uses on 1999 are definitely popular instruments of the time. However, the way in which Prince uses them is what sets this album apart from its contemporaries. Nobody had used the Linn-1 like Prince did on this album, and the way Prince employed the synthesizers among the other instruments was also distinct from what was happening within the genre. It's clear that Prince actually put some serious thought into the way he wanted the album to sound, as opposed to, say, Katrina and the Waves. As for the title track, we'll just have to disagree there. I think it's the greatest single of all time. Thanks for your thoughts! [Edited 10/16/09 22:23pm] "I'm a lover, not a haitcher"- Pandurito
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Imago said: Paris9748430 said: Do you know why it sounds dated? It came out 27 years ago!!! wrong answer SOTT, LoveSExy, the Black Album. None of those sound dated. That might be because those albums don't use synthesizers as heavily as albums like Dirty Mind, 1999, and Purple Rain. I just think it's hilarious when people say stuff like "I don't like that song, it sounds too 80's". Well, guess when it came out, genius!!! JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!! | |
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Paris9748430 said: Imago said: wrong answer SOTT, LoveSExy, the Black Album. None of those sound dated. That might be because those albums don't use synthesizers as heavily as albums like Dirty Mind, 1999, and Purple Rain. I just think it's hilarious when people say stuff like "I don't like that song, it sounds too 80's". Well, guess when it came out, genius!!! It's only partially because of that. Prince was heavily influenced by some of the synth pop sounds at the time (new wave/old wave) and 1999 reflected this. The overall sound on his album feels dated. SOTT, LoveSexy, and The Black Album seems to have had a much wider array of musical 'eras' that he borrowed from. Prince has always borrowed and mixed ---on some albums he transcends a certain decade, and on others he reflects them. On some of his later 90s material he actually chases them. But when I listen to 1999 (which I do enjoy), it feels like I'm listening to a retro act--and there's nothing wrong with that. I just have to be in the mood for it. C:\Otaassk~.exe Seriously, this thread makes no fucking sense: http://prince.org/msg/15/321025 vivid is my new boo! | |
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Imago said: Paris9748430 said: That might be because those albums don't use synthesizers as heavily as albums like Dirty Mind, 1999, and Purple Rain. I just think it's hilarious when people say stuff like "I don't like that song, it sounds too 80's". Well, guess when it came out, genius!!! It's only partially because of that. Prince was heavily influenced by some of the synth pop sounds at the time (new wave/old wave) and 1999 reflected this. The overall sound on his album feels dated. SOTT, LoveSexy, and The Black Album seems to have had a much wider array of musical 'eras' that he borrowed from. Prince has always borrowed and mixed ---on some albums he transcends a certain decade, and on others he reflects them. On some of his later 90s material he actually chases them. But when I listen to 1999 (which I do enjoy), it feels like I'm listening to a retro act--and there's nothing wrong with that. I just have to be in the mood for it. You don't think Prince used the synthesizers and drum machines in a much more innovative way than the way they were generally being used at the time? "I'm a lover, not a haitcher"- Pandurito
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Moonbeam said: Imago said: It's only partially because of that. Prince was heavily influenced by some of the synth pop sounds at the time (new wave/old wave) and 1999 reflected this. The overall sound on his album feels dated. SOTT, LoveSexy, and The Black Album seems to have had a much wider array of musical 'eras' that he borrowed from. Prince has always borrowed and mixed ---on some albums he transcends a certain decade, and on others he reflects them. On some of his later 90s material he actually chases them. But when I listen to 1999 (which I do enjoy), it feels like I'm listening to a retro act--and there's nothing wrong with that. I just have to be in the mood for it. You don't think Prince used the synthesizers and drum machines in a much more innovative way than the way they were generally being used at the time? Oh definitely he did. But I fail to see how this makes it sound less dated? I never said his earlier works weren't brilliant in their own way. C:\Otaassk~.exe Seriously, this thread makes no fucking sense: http://prince.org/msg/15/321025 vivid is my new boo! | |
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Imago said: Moonbeam said: You don't think Prince used the synthesizers and drum machines in a much more innovative way than the way they were generally being used at the time? Oh definitely he did. But I fail to see how this makes it sound less dated? I never said his earlier works weren't brilliant in their own way. When I think of something as "dated", it comes across as a cheap, easy imitation of the true innovations of the time. So I can totally see why something like "Walking on Sunshine" or "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun" sound dated, but the entire 1999 album still sounds so cutting-edge that even though it employs instruments that were widely pervasive in the 80s, it still sounds timeless to me. "I'm a lover, not a haitcher"- Pandurito
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I was 12 years old when 1999 came out. That album did things to me that it shoulda served 5 to 10 for. And I couldn't be more grateful.
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Moonbeam said: Imago said: Oh definitely he did. But I fail to see how this makes it sound less dated? I never said his earlier works weren't brilliant in their own way. When I think of something as "dated", it comes across as a cheap, easy imitation of the true innovations of the time. So I can totally see why something like "Walking on Sunshine" or "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun" sound dated, but the entire 1999 album still sounds so cutting-edge that even though it employs instruments that were widely pervasive in the 80s, it still sounds timeless to me. oh, I see. The only requirement for me that sounds dated is that when I hear it, I can place it in this or that decade. When I hear 1999 I can put in firmly in the mid to early 80s despite it's strengths. Several of his other albums (like SOTT or LoveSexy), I wouldn't be able to place them anywhere. They kind of exist in their own time-space. Perhaps you're 'dated' is my derivative? C:\Otaassk~.exe Seriously, this thread makes no fucking sense: http://prince.org/msg/15/321025 vivid is my new boo! | |
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^^^ And for the record, 1999 is not derivative to me... just dated.
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Imago said: Moonbeam said: When I think of something as "dated", it comes across as a cheap, easy imitation of the true innovations of the time. So I can totally see why something like "Walking on Sunshine" or "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun" sound dated, but the entire 1999 album still sounds so cutting-edge that even though it employs instruments that were widely pervasive in the 80s, it still sounds timeless to me. oh, I see. The only requirement for me that sounds dated is that when I hear it, I can place it in this or that decade. When I hear 1999 I can put in firmly in the mid to early 80s despite it's strengths. Several of his other albums (like SOTT or LoveSexy), I wouldn't be able to place them anywhere. They kind of exist in their own time-space. Perhaps you're 'dated' is my derivative? Oh, I can see that. Then again, with the 80s revival in full swing, would 1999 be that out of place within today's musical sphere, outside of the year reference? "I'm a lover, not a haitcher"- Pandurito
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Moonbeam said: Imago said: oh, I see. The only requirement for me that sounds dated is that when I hear it, I can place it in this or that decade. When I hear 1999 I can put in firmly in the mid to early 80s despite it's strengths. Several of his other albums (like SOTT or LoveSexy), I wouldn't be able to place them anywhere. They kind of exist in their own time-space. Perhaps you're 'dated' is my derivative? Oh, I can see that. Then again, with the 80s revival in full swing, would 1999 be that out of place within today's musical sphere, outside of the year reference? Please tell me you're not trying to make this conversation about Kylie Minogue again C:\Otaassk~.exe Seriously, this thread makes no fucking sense: http://prince.org/msg/15/321025 vivid is my new boo! | |
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Imago said: Moonbeam said: Oh, I can see that. Then again, with the 80s revival in full swing, would 1999 be that out of place within today's musical sphere, outside of the year reference? Please tell me you're not trying to make this conversation about Kylie Minogue again "I'm a lover, not a haitcher"- Pandurito
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Moonbeam said: Imago said: Please tell me you're not trying to make this conversation about Kylie Minogue again C:\Otaassk~.exe Seriously, this thread makes no fucking sense: http://prince.org/msg/15/321025 vivid is my new boo! | |
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Imago said: Moonbeam said: "I'm a lover, not a haitcher"- Pandurito
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Moonbeam said: ok, I'll bite. What album should I listen to first. C:\Otaassk~.exe Seriously, this thread makes no fucking sense: http://prince.org/msg/15/321025 vivid is my new boo! | |
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Imago said: Orgnote coming! "I'm a lover, not a haitcher"- Pandurito
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Moonbeam said: Imago said: ok, I'll bite. What album should I listen to first. Orgnote coming! I fear I'm going to spend the rest of my org days being bullied by you. I'll be like one of those slave girls in 'Coming to America." What's your favorite music, folks will ask. "Whatever Moonbeam likes, " I'll respond with no sense of irony or real reflection. Does anyone else see what's happening? Anyone? C:\Otaassk~.exe Seriously, this thread makes no fucking sense: http://prince.org/msg/15/321025 vivid is my new boo! | |
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Imago said: Moonbeam said: Orgnote coming! I fear I'm going to spend the rest of my org days being bullied by you. I'll be like one of those slave girls in 'Coming to America." What's your favorite music, folks will ask. "Whatever Moonbeam likes, " I'll respond with no sense of irony or real reflection. Does anyone else see what's happening? Anyone? "I'm a lover, not a haitcher"- Pandurito
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thedance said:
Brilliant masterpiece 10/10..... no bad song on there
![]() I find the Penis on the cover OFFENSIVE! One bright day in the middle if the night,
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