I read an article on Prince's career and it mentioned that Prince's infamous combination of sex and religion back in the day was not even his idea. It was a manager or someone that gave him the gimmick and he ran with it. I'm trying to remember the source. Anybody remember reading or hearing anything like that?

P wasn't the first..Marvin did it before him on record and in real life.

It would be nice if you included the link to the article in your post

That way we could all have a read and post some well thought out opinions

You know, they found out there's a universal orgasm vocalization that sounds just like the vowel sound in "Yahweh", or "Allah" or "God," etc.

i heard prince's mother taught him how to tie his shoes

Whoever thought it was Prince's idea anyway, or cared?
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IstenSzek said:

I heard it was Larry and Prince only wore slip ons before Larry taught him the way of the laces.

This relationship is familiar in the heart's of everyone. A Spiritual 2getherness while a man and woman come 2gether sexually is a blessing from God. That is what love is. I think it's the oldest idea in the book.

I Love the way that Prince expresses this love.

...religion and sex was never my idea either..but i think that is why i related to prince so well...i've heard so many artist in my 32yrs of life...but none..NONE..have EVER had me at attention like prince does...
..mzsexybaby
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SPYZFAN1 said:

Prince did it better and longer and better

TheEnglishGent said:

you might be on to something there

Tame said:

:cough:

(I kiid )
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sgmusic said:

that is an ignorant ass post right here

black music has always mixed secular and spirit

'idea"

good gawd.....

Did anyone know that mixing music and singing was not Prince's idea either?

I wish I could roll this thread up and smoke it.

Prince was who was and he is who is... just PRINCE

I have one from the Lovesexy era called Sex & Religion
I'll post it in a bit

But Prince never really presented the conflict of Sex & Religion until Purple Rain

Controversy had the Our Father Prayer but that was pure New Wave and only had to do with a reaction to the Controversy the speculation and gossip

But from For U - 1999 there was none(conflict)
Purple Rain gave us:God the Dance Electric(lyrical)
God the Love Theme(instrumental from the love scene in PR)
Computer Blue (lust love and the righteous one) the longer versions give us a more complete picture...
the backward message at the end of Darling Nikki
Around the World in a Day: Temptation

Parade had none(conflict)

*don't remember any from Dream Factory or Camille

Sign of the Times had none(conflict)

Lovesexy brought in a stronger idea of conflict between passions(sexual) and God/religion

TheEnglishGent said:

@ "way of the laces"

He got it from watching the exorcist...

This goes back to Thomas Dorsey's songs and the controversy that erupted when Gospel music was mostly hymns and not songs like Rev. Dorsey's. When Gospel music fused into Blues and created the Soul sound that was made famous in the 1960's.

Ray Charles,Sam Cooke,Jackie Wilson,Marvin Gaye,Smokey Robinson, and many that I can't remember created the sound before Prince. It was a huge controversy for years and it still continues to this day in the churches.

IstenSzek said:

she had (soft?) porn magazines in a closet,

that's how Prince was taught about SEX, it's what I have read somewhere, I can't remember where though.

btw. the whole disco era was very suggestive,

Donna Summer: Love to Love You Baby, I Feel Love, Bad Girls etc. comes to my mind.

She was there before Prince - being naughty... I love her music



edit.. but disco wasn't not about religion though...
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LOL....its a little known fact that there were no ideas at all until Prince was born.

jonylawson said:

Your momma! (ok now that I got that off my chest)

Look folks we have a scholar in our midst. There is a huge difference between mixing the secular and the spiritual and mixing veiled ( I would Die 4 You) and oftentimes outright Christian messages (The Cross) with outright x rated lyrics and profanity and adrogyny.

What I'm trying to communicate is that I read somewhere that Prince's religious/excessively erotic image was crafted FOR him not created BY him. I will try and locate the article.

By the way...someone mentioned Marvin Gaye. Yes he wrote sexual songs but when's the last time you came across a picture of Marvin Gaye with make up and a lady perm perched naked on a rock - good gawd! And as always remember...to all the mean spirited bastards out there..I hate you all. Thank you

Well Marv (during his last few concerts) had his hair "chemically treated" and he did strip down during "Sexual Healing" wearing a leather G-string..(which he really had no business wearing..and he did mention P's name when he did it).

But in music there's nothing orginal anyway..everyone borrows and steals from everyone.

And someone mentioned P did it longer and better than Marvin..well P outlived him and was getting into high gear when Marvin was taken away from us.