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Welcome 2 The Rat Race/In A Large Room With No Light _____
WELCOME 2 THE RAT RACE (Title Code: 533026314)
Writers: KEY WILLIAM* PRINCE Performers: LAURA KEY* MARK HARRIS* WIL KEY* Variations: (none found) Publishers/Administrators: MAD WHEELS MUSIC PO BOX 515 WESTMINSTER , CO, 80030 Tel. (720) 341-9810 *These names correspond to a cover of the song on the following album (titled: Welcome To The Rat Race)Listen to it here: http://cdbaby.com/cd/wilkey2 So, is the song erroneously titled Welcome 2 The Rat Race on ASCAP because it has only been released under the wrong name by Wil Key? Oddball songs by other artists containing samples are listed under Prince's ASCAP list for obvious reasons, but this is a straight up cover. People need to know the truth. Let's end this conspiracy. Who knows something? Semi-Off-Topic discussion originally started here: http://prince.org/msg/7/3...sg_6750397 Purple Fact #542: Prince can make a Weeble™ fall down. | |
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My initial thought.
ALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift. | |
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this reminds me of that cover of "old friends 4 sale" by some group
i was born with the wrong sign, in the wrong house, with the wrong ascendancy | |
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squirrelgrease said: _____
So what is the actual title to this song? Can we get a clarification once and for all from someone in-the-know? Though long assumed to be called In A Large Room With No Light (this has been stated in an interview with Eric Leeds), ASCAP lists Prince as the writer of Welcome 2 The Rat Race, and there are no references on ASCAP (that I can find) to In A Large Room With No Light. http://www.ascap.com/ace/...10&start=1 WELCOME 2 THE RAT RACE (Title Code: 533026314)
Writers: KEY WILLIAM* PRINCE Performers: LAURA KEY* MARK HARRIS* WIL KEY* Variations: (none found) Publishers/Administrators: MAD WHEELS MUSIC PO BOX 515 WESTMINSTER , CO, 80030 Tel. (720) 341-9810 *These names correspond to a cover of the song on the following album (titled: Welcome To The Rat Race)Listen to it here: http://cdbaby.com/cd/wilkey2 So, is the song erroneously titled Welcome 2 The Rat Race on ASCAP because it has only been released under the wrong name by Wil Key? Oddball songs by other artists containing samples are listed under Prince's ASCAP list for obvious reasons, but this is a straight up cover. People need to know the truth. Let's end this conspiracy. Who knows something? Semi-Off-Topic discussion originally started here: http://prince.org/msg/7/3...sg_6750397 Don't I get ANY credit for having raised the question? You could be a part-time model, but you'd probably have to keep your normal job | |
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Prince himself stated that it's "In A Large Room With No Light", also noting that people had incorrectly called it "Welcome 2 The Rat Race". Ernest L Sewell, IV
Confessions Of A Prince Realist. You might want to sit down for this. "An ass hanging out on stage is an ass hanging out on stage. Period." | |
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i remember reading that eric leeds said the actual title is life is like looking for a penny in a large room with no light life's a bitch, but god forbid the bitch divorce me...
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langebleu said: My initial thought.
The question in my mind is whether permission has been given to record this song. If it has, I would have expected Prince's publishing company vehicle to have been named. If it hasn't, then I begin to wonder whether the performer has based this recording on a bootleg, which might have resulted in the song title provided. I assumed that this is most likely the case, but it never hurts to check. Considering the cover in question is on CDbaby, it's probably one of those under-the-radar type deals. Funny that it's been registered with ASCAP at all. Purple Fact #542: Prince can make a Weeble™ fall down. | |
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wasitgood4u said: squirrelgrease said: _____
So what is the actual title to this song? Can we get a clarification once and for all from someone in-the-know? Though long assumed to be called In A Large Room With No Light (this has been stated in an interview with Eric Leeds), ASCAP lists Prince as the writer of Welcome 2 The Rat Race, and there are no references on ASCAP (that I can find) to In A Large Room With No Light. http://www.ascap.com/ace/...10&start=1 *These names correspond to a cover of the song on the following album (titled: Welcome To The Rat Race)Listen to it here: http://cdbaby.com/cd/wilkey2 So, is the song erroneously titled Welcome 2 The Rat Race on ASCAP because it has only been released under the wrong name by Wil Key? Oddball songs by other artists containing samples are listed under Prince's ASCAP list for obvious reasons, but this is a straight up cover. People need to know the truth. Let's end this conspiracy. Who knows something? Semi-Off-Topic discussion originally started here: http://prince.org/msg/7/3...sg_6750397 Don't I get ANY credit for having raised the question? I put the original thread link on there for just that purpose, but... yes, you opened up this can o' worms. Purple Fact #542: Prince can make a Weeble™ fall down. | |
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ernestsewell said: Prince himself stated that it's "In A Large Room With No Light", also noting that people had incorrectly called it "Welcome 2 The Rat Race".
Do you know which interview he said that? Purple Fact #542: Prince can make a Weeble™ fall down. | |
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punkofthemonth said: i remember reading that eric leeds said the actual title is life is like looking for a penny in a large room with no light
[Edited 7/6/09 13:55pm] Yes. That is true. Eric did call it that. It just seems a little wordy to be a Prince title. Purple Fact #542: Prince can make a Weeble™ fall down. | |
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squirrelgrease said: ernestsewell said: Prince himself stated that it's "In A Large Room With No Light", also noting that people had incorrectly called it "Welcome 2 The Rat Race".
Do you know which interview he said that? He said it on the Q&A on L4OA and/or NPGMC year 1. I almost have a feeling he said it in an interview on TV somewhere after that (in more recent years). Ernest L Sewell, IV
Confessions Of A Prince Realist. You might want to sit down for this. "An ass hanging out on stage is an ass hanging out on stage. Period." | |
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squirrelgrease said: punkofthemonth said: i remember reading that eric leeds said the actual title is life is like looking for a penny in a large room with no light
[Edited 7/6/09 13:55pm] Yes. That is true. Eric did call it that. It just seems a little wordy to be a Prince title. i think this is as close we've got to the true title | |
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jstar69 said: i think this is as close we've got to the true title
I'm sticking with that Prince said. Ernest L Sewell, IV
Confessions Of A Prince Realist. You might want to sit down for this. "An ass hanging out on stage is an ass hanging out on stage. Period." | |
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ernestsewell said: squirrelgrease said: Do you know which interview he said that? He said it on the Q&A on L4OA and/or NPGMC year 1. I almost have a feeling he said it in an interview on TV somewhere after that (in more recent years). Gotcha. Purple Fact #542: Prince can make a Weeble™ fall down. | |
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It wasn't mentioned in the Q & A: 'Ask The Artist' on love4oneanother.com in 1998. ALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift. | |
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langebleu said: It wasn't mentioned in the Q & A: 'Ask The Artist' on love4oneanother.com in 1998.
I think it was just one of those 'updates' saying something about the problem with unreleased tracks being on the internet, and people calling the track 'Welcome 2 the Ratrace' when the actual title is 'In A Large Room With No Light.' But I remember it, too. And I believe it was when Love4oneather.com was still there. | |
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Actually, since Prince never released this, this is probably an unauthorized cover and infringes on Prince's copyright.
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BriaVelveeta said: langebleu said: It wasn't mentioned in the Q & A: 'Ask The Artist' on love4oneanother.com in 1998.
I think it was just one of those 'updates' saying something about the problem with unreleased tracks being on the internet, and people calling the track 'Welcome 2 the Ratrace' when the actual title is 'In A Large Room With No Light.' But I remember it, too. And I believe it was when Love4oneather.com was still there. I couldn't find it on the archives. Purple Fact #542: Prince can make a Weeble™ fall down. | |
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squirrelgrease said: BriaVelveeta said: I think it was just one of those 'updates' saying something about the problem with unreleased tracks being on the internet, and people calling the track 'Welcome 2 the Ratrace' when the actual title is 'In A Large Room With No Light.' But I remember it, too. And I believe it was when Love4oneather.com was still there. I couldn't find it on the archives. Sorry. I know I didn't make it up, so it may have been at NPGMC, but it was one of those sites. One of those barely decipherable 'deep' things with a lot of U's and 2's and 4's and the like. | |
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emesem said: Actually, since Prince never released this, this is probably an unauthorized cover and infringes on Prince's copyright.
The songwriter always has the right to pick who gets to do his song first. Once its released, however, anyone can do a cover version without permission but still must pay the mechanical royalties. There was an album of Prince covers by Dump (bassist for Yo La Tango) that contained a version of the yet unreleased An Honest Man. The CD was called "That Skinny Motherfucker With The High Voice?". It got a bit of positive press attention. I don't know how it works with royalties for unreleased music. Purple Fact #542: Prince can make a Weeble™ fall down. | |
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BriaVelveeta said: squirrelgrease said: I couldn't find it on the archives. Sorry. I know I didn't make it up, so it may have been at NPGMC, but it was one of those sites. One of those barely decipherable 'deep' things with a lot of U's and 2's and 4's and the like. I believe you. It's very possible that it didn't get archived - or I overlooked it. I haven't figured out an easy way of searching the Wayback Machine, it's kind of a pain in the ass. Purple Fact #542: Prince can make a Weeble™ fall down. | |
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Love love looooove this song Don't forget Midnight Soulstice with DJ Pari and Mr. Felty http://wrir.org This Friday "Dancefloor Jazz" | |
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when this one's sorted out/agreed on, what about "Moon beam levels"/"A better place 2 die" !! | |
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squirrelgrease said: BriaVelveeta said: Sorry. I know I didn't make it up, so it may have been at NPGMC, but it was one of those sites. One of those barely decipherable 'deep' things with a lot of U's and 2's and 4's and the like. I believe you. It's very possible that it didn't get archived - or I overlooked it. I haven't figured out an easy way of searching the Wayback Machine, it's kind of a pain in the ass. Maybe it was more along the lines of the trouble withh bootleggers or bootlegs, not file sharing. Don't know if that will help, but maybe if there's a key word search? | |
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alexandernevermind1999 said: when this one's sorted out/agreed on, what about "Moon beam levels"/"A better place 2 die" !!
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BriaVelveeta said: squirrelgrease said: I believe you. It's very possible that it didn't get archived - or I overlooked it. I haven't figured out an easy way of searching the Wayback Machine, it's kind of a pain in the ass. Maybe it was more along the lines of the trouble withh bootleggers or bootlegs, not file sharing. Don't know if that will help, but maybe if there's a key word search? The only way I seem to get anywhere is to do do a browser "find" in each separate dated link, which is very time consuming. http://web.archive.org/we...ewfunk.com http://web.archive.org/we...ineltd.com http://web.archive.org/we...icclub.com Purple Fact #542: Prince can make a Weeble™ fall down. | |
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squirrelgrease said: wasitgood4u said: Don't I get ANY credit for having raised the question? I put the original thread link on there for just that purpose, but... yes, you opened up this can o' worms. Thanks for all the input. Interesting. I used to check L4OA.com quite a lot but wasn't a member of NPGMC. I might've missed it but I'm guessing it was at the latter. You could be a part-time model, but you'd probably have to keep your normal job | |
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This is a favorite of mine. I love it. Wish he's release the original track,but he'll probably do like he did with Old Friends 4 Sale and totally screw it up. | |
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asdfjkl said: This is a favorite of mine. I love it. Wish he's release the original track,but he'll probably do like he did with Old Friends 4 Sale and totally screw it up.
If that song was released and edited I wouldn't even want it A lot of that 1980's music released & unreleased music is just timeless Tick Tick Bang is another, the loss of the electric New Wave sound, the speed and the falsetto heavy breathing is what made that song, to remix it with a hip hop vide is just desecration Now where I come from
We don't let society tell us how it's supposed 2 be Our clothes, our hair, we don't care It's all about being there... | |
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From listening to it, In A Large Room With No Light is said a lot, Welcome to the Rat Race isn't(only once?)
Now where I come from
We don't let society tell us how it's supposed 2 be Our clothes, our hair, we don't care It's all about being there... | |
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