Shango said:

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..."i was strolling down a street of Los Angeles..when someone came by me and said"'Good Morning,Mr. Davis.'...i turned around and it was prince...
.. we hugged each other and he gave me his phone#...later..he sent me some tapes w/a letter offering me to utilize the themes w/or w/o words...
....i worked in the studio w/them..because they needed a touch up and i returned them so he can listen 2 them...then he told me that they weren't sufficiently-good enough for me and he prefered not to release them..but i liked them and i want 2 record with him."....Miles Davis '86..
...mzsexybaby

zaza said:

whats the short album?

squirrelgrease said:

the 13cds are amazing tho. the acoustic one is my fav. if you wern't at that one, i would download it.
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Shango said:

...what miles davis did to those tapes that prince gave him?..
...he adapted them to his own style and disfigured..distort them according to miles davis own personality..
...prince,..disconcerting archived the tapes and answered courteous-full the song did not deserve 2 be included in the album TUTU..
..when miles davis hear the tapes for the 1st time one can imagen what the genius thought they "sounded-ou-of"??..TIME>?..BEAT>?..RHYTHM>?..BAR REST>?..
..mzsexybaby

mzkqueen03 said:

That's from Miles' autobiography ain't it ? ... I've read it many years ago ... Loved that book !

mzkqueen03 said:

I really would like to hear those sessions as well Who knows, time will tell

...yes shango..i wish those tapes nothing but the best...it was a L-O-N-G time comming...with the whole jazz-fusion..
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...actually the insert was my own translation from spanish to english..but i do believe it comes from the auto-bio..i got it from another book..it is in spanish
..mzsexybaby

mzkqueen03 said:

Okay cool. Is that a spanish book about Prince ?

Shango said:

..yes..picked it up in mexico city feb..this yr....good-good book..
..mzsexybaby

squirrelgrease said:

Hmmmm - that's not necessarily definitive. It may not have had a name yet when they recorded it so he may have just called it that...

wasitgood4u said:

I'm going to assume someone somewhere (like the guys at Uptown) has seen the studio work sheets or something like that with the title on, or had it confirmed by band members/engineers.

Things like 'Welcome 2 The Ratrace', 'Expert Lover' (Crystal Ball) and 'A Better Place 2 Die' (Moonbeam Levels) haven't been used for years and years except for when folks come across old bootleg CDs (or ripped, ahem, online) like 'Crucial'.


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I actually like the Full-Length 'Saxophone' version of Crucial better than the 'Guitar Solo'. IMHO the Saxophone *makes* that song.
I remember getting Crystal Ball and *HOPING* that it was the Sax version on there (and that it wasn't cut from the 7:15 version). I was disappointed on both counts.

NouveauDance said:

I'm assuming the same, and was aware that "In a Large Room with No Light" is the accepted title, I was just wondering what the basis was. I don't own any Prince books, but I was guessing the Vault or something would have details.

wasitgood4u said:

Guess what? ASCAP lists Prince as the writer of Welcome 2 The Rat Race, and there is no listing for In a Large Room with No Light (or any variation). You obviously have a solid foundation for your argument.

http://www.ascap.com/ace/...10&start=1

ASCAP


Boris... Langebleu... little clarification?

squirrelgrease said:

Edit:

http://www.ascap.com/ace/...10&start=1

Writers:
KEY WILLIAM
PRINCE

Performers:
LAURA KEY
MARK HARRIS
WIL KEY

Variations:
(none found)

Publishers/Administrators:
MAD WHEELS MUSIC
PO BOX 515
WESTMINSTER , CO, 80030
Tel. (720) 341-9810


Maybe not?
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NouveauDance said:

I know. Those other names and the Pub/Admin throw a wrench into it.

NouveauDance said:

Googled Mark Harris, he's the sax player on this album. It's Prince's song (titled: Welcome To The Rat Race): http://cdbaby.com/cd/wilkey2

squirrelgrease said:

Curiouser and curiouser...




I'd say it was an unofficial cover, but if it's listed on ASCAP?

...holding the lid to the can of worms...

Where's Boris? Languebleu?

wasitgood4u said:

I know, we need some big ol' Paisley brains up in here. Something definitive needs to be thrown down.

My bets are on that it's officially called Welcome 2 The Rat Race. It's ASCAPified, man!

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zaza said:

Prince has never 'officially' recorded with Miles Davis, a lot of talk but nothing materialized....that I know of. Prince would only record something with Miles by mail, meaning he would send the song to Miles to add his trumpet/wind instrument. But I don't believe anything happened

Crucial is recorded with Eric Leads Atlanta Bliss and other Revolution members

The 1987/88 New Years Even Show guested Miles Davis at Paisley Park on a few songs.

I love the live Movie Star instrumental

http://prince.org/msg/7/304568 reply #111


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Shango said:

ok, I'm going to borrow this one

squirrelgrease said:

Bump... Maybe they'll notice...