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Reply #30 posted 04/13/09 1:54pm

mzsadii

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I really love this whole albumn and wish he would use parts of this albumn today in his music. it is daring and yet prophetic. The underline jazzy sounds makes this easy listen.
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Reply #31 posted 04/13/09 3:11pm

ThomasBjj

I am a big fan of The Rainbow Children album, but I'm not big on "1+1+1=3" or "Mellow", I deleted "Wedding Feast" from my iPod tracklist. The spoken parts of "Family Name" are a low point of an otherwise good song.

Everything else is great IMO. I think that the slowed down "darth vader/bobgeorge" voice is totally unneccessary. If he had used his own speaking voice I think would have been perfect and not put off so many people.

"Everywhere", "She Loves Me 4 Me", "Same December", "The Rainbow Children" all fantastic stuff.
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Reply #32 posted 04/13/09 3:56pm

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The only thing detracting from this album is the Vader voice - and even that is not that bad when you get used to it.

You're saying that one of the best songs on the album is actually one of the worst? It might borrow from Erotic City, but the only that keyboard/synth line.
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Reply #33 posted 04/13/09 4:03pm

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to me, the only thing really keeping this album from greatness (besides the weird lyrical parable), is the fact that there are too many non-song songs on it. i don't even mind the Darth Jehovah voice. but if 2 or 3 of those passages that aren't real songs and are just concept-album narration had been removed (a la the prince album) and been replaced with another "real song" then this could have been something of a masterpiece. (then again, the song that replaced most of the narration on prince, "I Wanna Melt With U," kind of sucks, so...)
"does my cock look fat in these jeans?"
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Reply #34 posted 04/13/09 4:55pm

majissty

i have repeatedly tried 2 get into this album, but it just never worked for me>> other than : EVERYWHERE , SHE LOVES ME 4 ME (which is beautiful!!) , & THE LAST DECEMBER. Those 3 trax are the only ones i enjoy from that cd. & THE WORK,PT 1 is just "o.k."
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Reply #35 posted 04/13/09 5:25pm

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I think 1 + 1 + 1 is hardly an Erotic City rip-off. It is much livelier, has more cool parts. There is a lot more song dynamics.

Erotic City is fine, but it never goes anywhere, and is way overrated.

I think 1 + 1 + 1 is far greater.
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Reply #36 posted 04/13/09 5:31pm

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jpav said:

I think 1 + 1 + 1 is hardly an Erotic City rip-off. It is much livelier, has more cool parts. There is a lot more song dynamics.

Erotic City is fine, but it never goes anywhere, and is way overrated.

I think 1 + 1 + 1 is far greater.



i completely disagree with me. even leaving the lyrics aside, this track feels like a completely watered down version of Erotic City to me. there may be more going on musically, but it has absolutely no spark to it like EC does.
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Reply #37 posted 04/13/09 5:35pm

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I don't think the storyline of TRC would make sense without 1+1+1=3. He's putting forth a worldview and religious belief system, and that song is essential, I think, to what he's getting at. He's asserting that there's no trinity and setting up the theme to be revisited in Everlasting Now and Last December. That's far different from his religious works of the past. I Would Die 4 U, for example, supports a belief in the trinity.

Plus, the song is really funky and good, whatever it's saying. I don't have much time for the lyrical content of TRC, but musically it reaches great heights.
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Reply #38 posted 04/13/09 5:36pm

ernestsewell

I know I'm in the minority with this, but it's just my two cents..

THE RAINBOW CHILDREN ALBUM BLOWS!!
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Reply #39 posted 04/13/09 5:45pm

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jpav said:

I think 1 + 1 + 1 is hardly an Erotic City rip-off. It is much livelier, has more cool parts. There is a lot more song dynamics.

Erotic City is fine, but it never goes anywhere, and is way overrated.

I think 1 + 1 + 1 is far greater.


You're crazy!
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Reply #40 posted 04/13/09 8:00pm

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NouveauDance said:

I like how 1+1+1=3 builds up from the start. It matches the lyrics perfectly, all the stuff about getting into her 'suggestive mind' (and the other). Creepy, but great.


nod

i sort of loathe the message of the album but i wouldn't change a note.
it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die
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Reply #41 posted 04/13/09 8:03pm

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Se7en said:

The only thing detracting from this album is the Vader voice - and even that is not that bad when you get used to it.

You're saying that one of the best songs on the album is actually one of the worst? It might borrow from Erotic City, but the only that keyboard/synth line.


i think it's an intentional reference and if you listen to the lyrics it kind of makes sense. i disagree with the message of the lyrics but it does seem coherent in the sense that he's 'quoting' himself for a reason and not just rehashing a previous groove (which he has been guilty of in other, more recent albums).
it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die
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Reply #42 posted 04/13/09 8:04pm

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Efan said:

I don't think the storyline of TRC would make sense without 1+1+1=3. He's putting forth a worldview and religious belief system, and that song is essential, I think, to what he's getting at. He's asserting that there's no trinity and setting up the theme to be revisited in Everlasting Now and Last December. That's far different from his religious works of the past. I Would Die 4 U, for example, supports a belief in the trinity.

Plus, the song is really funky and good, whatever it's saying. I don't have much time for the lyrical content of TRC, but musically it reaches great heights.


i agree.

it's a narrative turning point on the album that the rest of the songs hinge on.
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Reply #43 posted 04/13/09 8:45pm

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Great album...i love it!
I could listen 2 it over and over and 1+1+1=3 is one of the great tracks on the cd.
Plus...'Wedding Feast' is alot of fun! biggrin
"...lets groove 2 the purple rock n' roll!"
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Reply #44 posted 04/13/09 9:11pm

violetblues

What are you guys all smoking, i want some too! weed stoned
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Reply #45 posted 04/13/09 9:22pm

johnny2000

Femi Jeya did a great job mixing The Rainbow Children.... to my ears he is greatly missed on Lotusflow3r.

Great live drum sounds do not make a 'great song', but there is no excuse for poor mixing in 2009
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Reply #46 posted 04/13/09 9:26pm

peter430044

1+1+1 is 3 is a really funky and fun song, one of the best tracks on the album, together with Family Name and She Loves Me 4 Me. The other songs are ok or good, but the album is not above average Prince-standards.
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Reply #47 posted 04/13/09 9:40pm

stanleylieber

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johnny2000 said:

Femi Jeya


nod
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Reply #48 posted 04/13/09 10:36pm

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funksterr said:

Everything I don't like about Prince music is on that album. Musically it has it's moments, but you could say that about all Prince albums. Lyrically it's largely negative and ignorant. I don't enjoy it as a whole, but I do like 'She Loves Me For Me'. Overall, I think it's one of the worse projects he's ever done.



Completely agree.
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Reply #49 posted 04/13/09 10:48pm

ernestsewell

jtfolden said:

funksterr said:

Everything I don't like about Prince music is on that album. Musically it has it's moments, but you could say that about all Prince albums. Lyrically it's largely negative and ignorant. I don't enjoy it as a whole, but I do like 'She Loves Me For Me'. Overall, I think it's one of the worse projects he's ever done.



Completely agree.


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Reply #50 posted 04/14/09 6:50am

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I would be interested to know if the same people who dislike TRC enjoy NPS.
I love TRC but i dont really like NPS.
Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
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Reply #51 posted 04/14/09 9:09am

violetblues

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I would be interested to know if the same people who dislike TRC enjoy NPS.
I love TRC but i dont really like NPS.


I think neither because i dont think like cheesy music of any form.

I was going to ask a similar question, that if those who like TRC are also the ones who dig MNPLSOUND?
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Reply #52 posted 04/14/09 12:09pm

datdude

i love TRC too. was mesmerized upon first listen. didn't expect where it was taking me at all. i can SEE how 1+1+1=3 sounds like an Erotic City ripoff, but i didn't pick up on that until it was pointed out to me. So to me its not THAT obvious, the bass isn't as prevalent. MY beef with the song is that it's P's subtle way of dissing the idea of The Trinity. As a Christian who believes in the trinity, i peeped where he was going right away. Classic JW belief. I still listen the song, cause 1x1x1 = 1 !!
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Reply #53 posted 04/14/09 12:31pm

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From 1+1+1 is 3:

"There's a theocratic order
There's a theocratic order (There's a way we gotta do things)

This is how it's gonna be
If U wanna be with me
Ain't no room 4 disagree (No room)
1+1+1 is 3

Take your time 2 think it through (Think about it)
If this is what U wanna do
I ain't really that hard 2 please
Cuz 1+1+1 is 3 - hey!"

I always figured he was referring to Ecclesiastes 4:12 and the "threefold cord" mentioned therein. The threefold cord is a figurative expression. When applied to marriage, it includes the husband and wife, two strands, who are intertwined with the central strand, God.
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Reply #54 posted 04/14/09 1:20pm

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violetblues said:

muirdo said:

I would be interested to know if the same people who dislike TRC enjoy NPS.
I love TRC but i dont really like NPS.


I think neither because i dont think like cheesy music of any form.

I was going to ask a similar question, that if those who like TRC are also the ones who dig MNPLSOUND?


not me.
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Reply #55 posted 04/14/09 1:21pm

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the album is a masterpiece which i didn't realize upon 1st hearing it. but like with a lot of his music, it just creeps up on u kicks yo ass!

1+1+1 gets me from the drums start kicking in ..grabs me by the legs when the wah wah pedal on the guitar b4 the verse kicks provoking that funky face ..then the way he sings "take ur time and think it through ..THINK ABOUT IT" ..oh shit i'm on the xpress train 2 funk galore
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #56 posted 04/14/09 1:21pm

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spiritandtruth said:

From 1+1+1 is 3:

"There's a theocratic order
There's a theocratic order (There's a way we gotta do things)

This is how it's gonna be
If U wanna be with me
Ain't no room 4 disagree (No room)
1+1+1 is 3

Take your time 2 think it through (Think about it)
If this is what U wanna do
I ain't really that hard 2 please
Cuz 1+1+1 is 3 - hey!"

I always figured he was referring to Ecclesiastes 4:12 and the "threefold cord" mentioned therein. The threefold cord is a figurative expression. When applied to marriage, it includes the husband and wife, two strands, who are intertwined with the central strand, God.


theocratic order:

god -> man -> woman -> child -> animals
it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die
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Reply #57 posted 04/14/09 1:23pm

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stanleylieber said:

spiritandtruth said:

From 1+1+1 is 3:

"There's a theocratic order
There's a theocratic order (There's a way we gotta do things)

This is how it's gonna be
If U wanna be with me
Ain't no room 4 disagree (No room)
1+1+1 is 3

Take your time 2 think it through (Think about it)
If this is what U wanna do
I ain't really that hard 2 please
Cuz 1+1+1 is 3 - hey!"

I always figured he was referring to Ecclesiastes 4:12 and the "threefold cord" mentioned therein. The threefold cord is a figurative expression. When applied to marriage, it includes the husband and wife, two strands, who are intertwined with the central strand, God.


theocratic order:

god -> man -> woman -> child -> animals


if you want to be with prince, you have to agree to 'let him decide.' there ain't no room to disagree, because 1+1+1=3. the theocratic order is the way things are supposed to work, and it's so obvious. you cannot argue with prince about it because he's not interested in talking to you if you don't agree with him. so you can forget about getting in his life unless you are willing to do all the things a good wife is supposed to do, as described in the lyrics of the album 'elixer.'
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Reply #58 posted 04/14/09 1:25pm

emesem

stanleylieber said:

spiritandtruth said:

From 1+1+1 is 3:

"There's a theocratic order
There's a theocratic order (There's a way we gotta do things)

This is how it's gonna be
If U wanna be with me
Ain't no room 4 disagree (No room)
1+1+1 is 3

Take your time 2 think it through (Think about it)
If this is what U wanna do
I ain't really that hard 2 please
Cuz 1+1+1 is 3 - hey!"

I always figured he was referring to Ecclesiastes 4:12 and the "threefold cord" mentioned therein. The threefold cord is a figurative expression. When applied to marriage, it includes the husband and wife, two strands, who are intertwined with the central strand, God.


theocratic order:

god -> man -> woman -> child -> animals


and dont forget: "Ain't no room 4 disagree (No room) "


Prince as a Christian fascist. horrible just horrible.
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Reply #59 posted 04/14/09 1:28pm

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HismajestysSecondComing said:

Yes I'm sorry I really like this album, it is a staggeringly fantastic album: the musicianship is truly inspired, the melodies subtle yet insidiously lingering, and every song but one breathes of Prince on fire. I can even forgive him 'The Wedding Feast' because it is just plain daft, makes me smile and really isn't much of a song at all. The Darth Vader voice also is unnecessary and stupid but, hey this is Prince, you want straightforwardness try someone else
Yet one song down the years has irritated me and nettled me. I would preferred that he had left it off completely. Why? Because it is derivative, it reeks of Prince recycling some of the best of his past work for the sake of a funky melody. The song is 1+1+1=3 which,IMO,is no more than a rip off of 'Erotic City'. The song really irritates me because without this the album is just a fabulous, musical trip.

Sorry for droning on but this has bothered me for years. Can you relate?

No I can't. "1+1+1=3" is it's own song and it's great! I can see that it has the same feel as Erotic City, just with live instruments but that's it. I dig the song a lot, one of the best on that CD, which is great.
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