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PrintableI like the energy of the clip. However, The intro is already grown tired after just a few listens.. | |
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Wall said: realm said: Chocolate Box is a fun song. And the fans that say P is 2 OLD to sing those lyrics??! P is all about the trim and 50 is young if you take care.
 Sheeez.. What should he sing?? I gotta box of bibles?What makes the lyrics so utterly pathetic and laughable isn't that he's fifty years old, but the manner in which they're written and delivered. This fifty year old sounds like a fifteen year old girl trying to get her big break on some Nickelodeon sanctioned album/sitcom. There's nothing wrong with well delivered 'sexual' lyrics or come-ons but one would like to think a man who's old enough to be a grandfather would show at this point in his career some maturation or common sense and not sound like a desperate teen idol, following what they think is the blueprint to get played in all the shopping malls. Fergie is currently like Bob Dylan next to Prince. I also love how since he's a JW he takes this sanctimonious road of not swearing, yet will pant some juvenile come on -- because as long as he's not swearing, he can lust all he wants, I mean, they might be talking about marriage, right? What a joke. It's like the Christian who thinks they're still being holy as long as they just have oral sex. Prince is the biggest colonized mind of them all. I think his ability to no longer think for himself is responsible for his PG rated music and lyrics. He's now got to shift his mind from its former free self to fit into the rules and regulations of his religion. As a result and so as not to say anything 'too dirty' or 'unholy... technically' he sounds like a teenager and not an adult, even though he's over fifty. You did not like Colonized mind because you say he has no rights to speak about politics...(the whole no vote/JW thing) You don't like Chocolate box because you think he is trying to play what would be played in shopping malls... You did not like Be like me, because of whatever reason (don't remember) I cannot even remember what criticizm you gave the other songs. But, if you will see the pattern/point here...no matter whether he is singing like an adult, or trying to have fun..YOU have an issue with them. And that is fine; However, why don't you stop listening? Apparently you can find nothing but fault in ALL of his newer work, so why do you continue to listen? You look like an unintelligent fool by coming in here and criticizing all the songs, yet you keep listening. I really do not care whether you like the songs or not. It does not bother nor persuade me either way. Hopefully you don't think there are people that actually use your "reviews" to make a decision on the albums. [Edited 1/16/09 23:21pm] [Edited 1/17/09 10:50am] -you ain't funky at all, you just a little ol' prude! |
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I still can't figure out all that jibber jabber about the experimentation and pro tools talk.. It sounded like innovation in the making for mpls sound.. .. lol
Still interested.. I wanna know he is in fact referring to.. | |
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npggirl77 said: You did not like Colonized mind because you say he has no rights to speak about politics...(the whole no vote/JW thing) No. I said Colonized Mind has some decent guitar work as Prince is nothing if not a great guitar player but is an overall bland adult contemporary rock tune with laughable, pedestrian lyrics. And the irony of the title "Colonized Mind" is that he is the greatest colonized mind of them all. He no longer thinks for himself. "Dear Leader" has been herded. I never said "he has no rights" to speak about politics, but going back to Ronnie Talk To Russia, he sounds like a high school freshman whenever he does. You don't like Chocolate box because you think he is trying to play what would be played in shopping malls...
Pretty much. You look like an unintelligent fool by coming in here and criticizing all the songs, yet you keep listening.
I really do not care whether you like the songs or not. It does not bother nor persuade me either way. Sorry my intelligence level is lacking in your view. I'd suggest you pass over my posts if they're coming off as the cupped droolings of a home schooled inbred Prince fan. Hopefully you don't think there are people that actually use your "reviews" to make a decision on the albums.
I don't. [Edited 1/16/09 23:47pm] No hard feelings. | |
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HMMMMM Chocolate Box.
Sounds like Prince is trying to do "Prince" again... | |
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Trickology said: The marketers behind the scene are not going to run to help promote this. That's a fact. And it's the distributors and the social engineers/perception managert who run this, not the artist. Prince is so fueled on ego, he doesn't realize that. He thinks every record will be an epic event and calls up the LA times and thinks this time he has it right.
Meanwhile this whole press release (it's not article it's a press release) is championing the return of the electro retro prince and the premier of pro tools (desperately), a interesting guitar oriented record and the arrival of a new protege named Bria Valente who is somewhere between Mayte and J Lo on the interesting scale. MPLSound and Elixir looks and sounds extremely insincere from the songs I have heard. No one is going to go for this. Impression is everything especially in these 21st century days. But you missed the positive thing I said. Lotus does have a chance of being marketed a critics acclaimed choice. But talking about these other two just clutters it. Trust me, thats why no one will get behind promoting Prince. Because people are waiting for the right marketing/promotion presentation and it hasn't been there since Diamond and Pearls. So what he has to do is drag out that Purple Rain melody one more time to the live audience. He knows how to do that schtick easily. (Superbowl,21 nights) Prince might want to talk to Dylan's people how he is able to get people to talk about his new material at the drop of a hat. It's pretty clear why Prince contacted LA TIMES. He needs promotion that he can trust. Unfortunately for him, one press interview isnt going to cut it. He is so paranoid he won't grant any access to many journalists. Partially due to his ability to not cope with any challenging questions. Without that momentum of press the projects get killed before it gets started. Without a street team these records won't be acknowledged. And no amount of touring is going to get those records heard or bought. Prince isn't giving the people enough and that's just how the game is played. Most people are just going to rapidshare/megaupload/zshare/badongo his music and just keep it moving. I don't really think Prince expects a gazillion of purchased downloads. He puts the stuff out there that probably a lot of hardcore fans will pay for and h can go on tour to perform the new songs, it's not like he's gonna lose any money especially because there's no record label inbetween. Yes, the marketing could be better but why does it matter to you personally? If you don't like the music, would it change your opinion of it if Prince promoted it to the mainstream and the general public would be aware of it? I know that's always a nice thing but for somebody like Prince who hasn't had a hit for 15 years is not the main goal and you'd think fans would focus only on the music by now. | |
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Wall said: I also love how since he's a JW he takes this sanctimonious road of not swearing, yet will pant some juvenile come on -- because as long as he's not swearing, he can lust all he wants, I mean, they might be talking about marriage, right? What a joke. It's like the Christian who thinks they're still being holy as long as they just have oral sex. Prince is the biggest colonized mind of them all. I think his ability to no longer think for himself is responsible for his PG rated music and lyrics. He's now got to shift his mind from its former free self to fit into the rules and regulations of his religion. I agree with this . [Edited 1/17/09 1:08am] | |
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npggirl77 said: Wall said: What makes the lyrics so utterly pathetic and laughable isn't that he's fifty years old, but the manner in which they're written and delivered. This fifty year old sounds like a fifteen year old girl trying to get her big break on some Nickelodeon sanctioned album/sitcom. There's nothing wrong with well delivered 'sexual' lyrics or come-ons but one would like to think a man who's old enough to be a grandfather would show at this point in his career some maturation or common sense and not sound like a desperate teen idol, following what they think is the blueprint to get played in all the shopping malls. Fergie is currently like Bob Dylan next to Prince. I also love how since he's a JW he takes this sanctimonious road of not swearing, yet will pant some juvenile come on -- because as long as he's not swearing, he can lust all he wants, I mean, they might be talking about marriage, right? What a joke. It's like the Christian who thinks they're still being holy as long as they just have oral sex. Prince is the biggest colonized mind of them all. I think his ability to no longer think for himself is responsible for his PG rated music and lyrics. He's now got to shift his mind from its former free self to fit into the rules and regulations of his religion. As a result and so as not to say anything 'too dirty' or 'unholy... technically' he sounds like a teenager and not an adult, even though he's over fifty. You did not like Colonized mind because you say he has no rights to speak about politics...(the whole no vote/JW thing) You don't like Chocolate box because you think he is trying to play what would be played in shopping malls... You did not like Be like me, because of whatever reason (don't remember) I cannot even remember what criticizm you gave the other songs. But, if you will see the patter/point here...no matter whether he is singing like an adult, or trying to have fun..YOU have an issue with them. And that is fine; However, why don't you stop listening? Apparently you can find nothing but fault in ALL of his newer work, so why do you continue to listen? You look like an unintelligent fool by coming in here and criticizing all the songs, yet you keep listening. I really do not care whether you like the songs or not. It does not bother nor persuade me either way. Hopefully you don't think there are people that actually use your "reviews" to make a decision on the albums. [Edited 1/16/09 23:21pm] npggirl77 this is the first time I actually agree with you (as I am someone who is has not liked some of prince's more recent music), I see Wall constantly hating every thing that Prince does and always wonder why he still listens. | |
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Sounds quite alright for what it is.
I agree that "he could use a real vocoder instead". Hell you can get those as plugins too if operating hardware requires stretching too much away from the producer's chair. | |
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Sounds like Prince is embracing the "duality" again by having 2 albums: one guitar-based and one electronic-based.
About the lyrics: on a track like this, where it's obvious he's having fun with it, the lyrics don't matter really. It's when he's going for a serious song/ballad that the lyrics really matter. It really is a shrewd marketing move though . . . directly targeting the largest music-buying demographic (teenagers). We die-hards will buy it regardless. |
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Wall said: What makes the lyrics so utterly pathetic and laughable isn't that he's fifty years old, but the manner in which they're written and delivered. This fifty year old sounds like a fifteen year old girl trying to get her big break on some Nickelodeon sanctioned album/sitcom. There's nothing wrong with well delivered 'sexual' lyrics or come-ons but one would like to think a man who's old enough to be a grandfather would show at this point in his career some maturation or common sense and not sound like a desperate teen idol, following what they think is the blueprint to get played in all the shopping malls. Fergie is currently like Bob Dylan next to Prince. I also love how since he's a JW he takes this sanctimonious road of not swearing, yet will pant some juvenile come on -- because as long as he's not swearing, he can lust all he wants, I mean, they might be talking about marriage, right? What a joke. It's like the Christian who thinks they're still being holy as long as they just have oral sex. Prince is the biggest colonized mind of them all. I think his ability to no longer think for himself is responsible for his PG rated music and lyrics. He's now got to shift his mind from its former free self to fit into the rules and regulations of his religion. As a result and so as not to say anything 'too dirty' or 'unholy... technically' he sounds like a teenager and not an adult, even though he's over fifty. Perfect! couldnt agree more. [Edited 1/17/09 5:19am] | |
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"Chocolate Box," is cute...
"Colonized Mind," I like... "All this Love," has a nice jazzy sound... My computer is slow so I hear the music in short pieces...I'm better off talking about these songs later on.  "The Lion Sleeps Tonight... | |
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npggirl77 said: DetroitMusic said: No one is satisfied on the ORG, either your complaining he hasn't released a cd or he needs to take a year or so off, or his r&b is corny for the white folx or the rock is not good at all for the blacks.
Make up your minds ppl. Chocolate Box is HOTT! You are right. I think it is hott too! The issue is that there are people that say he does not sound like he used to. Then you got people saying he sounds like he's 20. It all comes down to this: People have differing opinions, and tastes... If you do not care for the new stuff, then move on. If you appreciate what Prince was, is, and always will be (an experimenting artist) then stick around and appreciate what he gives. Personally, in my mind and taste, no one can beat Prince. His music/style/sounds have always appealed to me, and likely always will. I think he does what he feels when he feels it. He does not care if he sounds like what everyone else sounds like, or what he used to sound like. He does what he wants to do in a point in time. He, is a musical genious. He will never satisfy everyone/yet people tend to judge everything he does. They can keep judging...I'll keep listening and jamming. Good music is a matter of taste, but those that don't dig his anymore, should move on and stop berating every new song. [Edited 1/16/09 15:13pm] Well said!!!! Lemme | |
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npggirl77 said: Wall said: What makes the lyrics so utterly pathetic and laughable isn't that he's fifty years old, but the manner in which they're written and delivered. This fifty year old sounds like a fifteen year old girl trying to get her big break on some Nickelodeon sanctioned album/sitcom. There's nothing wrong with well delivered 'sexual' lyrics or come-ons but one would like to think a man who's old enough to be a grandfather would show at this point in his career some maturation or common sense and not sound like a desperate teen idol, following what they think is the blueprint to get played in all the shopping malls. Fergie is currently like Bob Dylan next to Prince. I also love how since he's a JW he takes this sanctimonious road of not swearing, yet will pant some juvenile come on -- because as long as he's not swearing, he can lust all he wants, I mean, they might be talking about marriage, right? What a joke. It's like the Christian who thinks they're still being holy as long as they just have oral sex. Prince is the biggest colonized mind of them all. I think his ability to no longer think for himself is responsible for his PG rated music and lyrics. He's now got to shift his mind from its former free self to fit into the rules and regulations of his religion. As a result and so as not to say anything 'too dirty' or 'unholy... technically' he sounds like a teenager and not an adult, even though he's over fifty. You did not like Colonized mind because you say he has no rights to speak about politics...(the whole no vote/JW thing) You don't like Chocolate box because you think he is trying to play what would be played in shopping malls... You did not like Be like me, because of whatever reason (don't remember) I cannot even remember what criticizm you gave the other songs. But, if you will see the patter/point here...no matter whether he is singing like an adult, or trying to have fun..YOU have an issue with them. And that is fine; However, why don't you stop listening? Apparently you can find nothing but fault in ALL of his newer work, so why do you continue to listen? You look like an unintelligent fool by coming in here and criticizing all the songs, yet you keep listening. I really do not care whether you like the songs or not. It does not bother nor persuade me either way. Hopefully you don't think there are people that actually use your "reviews" to make a decision on the albums. [Edited 1/16/09 23:21pm] beautifully said...folks that find nothing but fault in Prince need to "move on", find another artist to "pick on" and most importantly "get a life". Some of us love Prince and his music "regardless"...is what it is. Lemme | |
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Wow things are changing at a fast pace on this site..... 
Chocolate Box....First time I heard it sounded like a mix of Prince 80's Sample "When Doves Cry"...Camile.."where the drums" with a 00's T-Pain type vocal?  ...but on Second and Third time it had a "Britney / Timberfake" heavy breath sound ..keyboard in it? WTF sound but then Fourth play got the Prince 90's  feel ....it will not be my fave that's for sure but will get Radio Airplay (if their is any justice in the world) as this sound is out their at the moment...it's fun ...party vibe
Colonized Mind.....Perfect Prince...cool...funky...ah...just great..he's the man! ...Jimi all over this sh*t ...Great True Prince Classic and he's not even released it...
All this Love.....UK jazz funk (sade)...90's...Guru...Brand New Heavies..soul..Like it got a cool take ...Neo Soul ..with a bit of Philly for short..Love it! Like the ideal of samples Prince keep it going... Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
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LilCub said: HMMMMM Chocolate Box.
Sounds like Prince is trying to do "Prince" again... Prince is not "trying to do Prince" He is doing Prince....and guess what!!!he never stopped doing Prince imho. I will b with Prince every step of the way!!! Lemme | |
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LondonStyle said: Wow things are changing at a fast pace on this site.....
Chocolate Box....First time I heard it sounded like a mix of Prince 80's Sample "When Doves Cry"...Camile.."where the drums" with a 00's T-Pain type vocal? ...but on Second and Third time it had a "Britney / Timberfake" heavy breath sound ..keyboard in it? WTF sound but then Fourth play got the Prince 90's feel ....it will not be my fave that's for sure but will get Radio Airplay (if their is any justice in the world) as this sound is out their at the moment...it's fun ...party vibe
Colonized Mind.....Perfect Prince...cool...funky...ah...just great..he's the man! ...Jimi all over this sh*t ...Great True Prince Classic and he's not even released it...
All this Love.....UK jazz funk (sade)...90's...Guru...Brand New Heavies..soul..Like it got a cool take ...Neo Soul ..with a bit of Philly for short..Love it! Like the ideal of samples Prince keep it going... I agree with most of this CB - sounds pretty good... but its sort of like seeing Madonna do some of the songs shes doing these days. IMO Prince is too old for this kind of sound. He just needs to give these songs to yes Brittany, yes Beyonce certainly Rhiana, Chris Brown and let them run with it. Or try and develop his own young talent and get it out there CM - is the bomb ATL - sounds real good... again Prince's ability to play many different styles and well often works against him with many of his fans. Especially on this rock heavy forum. There is large portion of Princes fan base that has been waiting for him to do a Brand New Heavies, Maxwell (think Embrya and Now) for a long time. Maybe Bria has inspired him to actually do it. I like both cuts I have heard from that record Dance... Let me see you dance | |
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vinx98 said: npggirl77 said: You did not like Colonized mind because you say he has no rights to speak about politics...(the whole no vote/JW thing) You don't like Chocolate box because you think he is trying to play what would be played in shopping malls... You did not like Be like me, because of whatever reason (don't remember) I cannot even remember what criticizm you gave the other songs. But, if you will see the patter/point here...no matter whether he is singing like an adult, or trying to have fun..YOU have an issue with them. And that is fine; However, why don't you stop listening? Apparently you can find nothing but fault in ALL of his newer work, so why do you continue to listen? You look like an unintelligent fool by coming in here and criticizing all the songs, yet you keep listening. I really do not care whether you like the songs or not. It does not bother nor persuade me either way. Hopefully you don't think there are people that actually use your "reviews" to make a decision on the albums. [Edited 1/16/09 23:21pm] npggirl77 this is the first time I actually agree with you (as I am someone who is has not liked some of prince's more recent music), I see Wall constantly hating every thing that Prince does and always wonder why he still listens. he's obviously obsessed with Prince.
Prince has that hold on some people, they just can't walk awayl [Edited 1/17/09 7:36am] | |
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I just heard All This Love. It sounds like some of the contemporary gospel songs or some smooth jazz tracks I hear sometimes. Not really feeling it. | |
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I like it, but I would have gone for the more stylish title & theme: "Pralines".
Sdldawn said: Up on the site.. a preview
What you think? discuss .... Super short preview.. but still also Colonized Mind and a Bria song "All This Love" [Edited 1/15/09 23:47pm] | |
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Well from the 30 second clip, CB sounds promising.
Like others have said, sounds fun, playful, energetic and is a nod to the past. But it's really hard to judge a song by a 30 second clip. It's almost an annoyance more than anything.
Colonized Mind is great. Most of us can agree on that. That Bria tune once again, from 30 secs, sounds promising. Neo soul kinda thing. Give us some full tunes already!  Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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Bfunkthe1 said: Well from the 30 second clip, CB sounds promising.
Like others have said, sounds fun, playful, energetic and is a nod to the past. But it's really hard to judge a song by a 30 second clip. It's almost an annoyance more than anything.
Colonized Mind is great. Most of us can agree on that. That Bria tune once again, from 30 secs, sounds promising. Neo soul kinda thing. Give us some full tunes already! Well I guess he did give us 5 or 6 full tunes aleady. Ooops. 
Being greedy. Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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Regardless of quantity or quality I will buy all three. Because that's what fans do. | |
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Bfunkthe1 said: Bfunkthe1 said: .
Give us some full tunes already! Well I guess he did give us 5 or 6 full tunes aleady. Ooops.
Being greedy.  you are not being gready
Give us a bit longer track or full ones..!!! Once the cd's drop.. no one will care about the tracks on the site | |
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colonized mind has a sad vibe that I love. fantastic guitar too
chocolate box could be a good song eventually, who really knows? | |
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I really like the song CHOCOLATE Box. COLONIZED MIND is MY FAVORITE Track along with Never B. Really great sounding. | |
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With Chocolate Box Prince is trying to do a Santagold, Gnarls Barkley simplicity, but they do that sound better. Prince spotted a trend and ran for it. Sounds good, but not great. You have to want it. All you others say Hell Yea!!  | |
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What's so interesting in this thread is hearing people say things like "This is not how a 50 yr old is supposed to talk or sing about". My question to you is, how is a 50 yr old supposed to talk and what is he supposed to sing about? How should a 50 yr old conduct his or her business? Are most of you 50 or older to know how he should be doing things at the Half-Century mark? I got one even better, I turn 30 in March. How should I talk and conduct business as a 30 yr old? This enquiring mind wants to know.  I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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npggirl77 said: Wall said: What makes the lyrics so utterly pathetic and laughable isn't that he's fifty years old, but the manner in which they're written and delivered. This fifty year old sounds like a fifteen year old girl trying to get her big break on some Nickelodeon sanctioned album/sitcom. There's nothing wrong with well delivered 'sexual' lyrics or come-ons but one would like to think a man who's old enough to be a grandfather would show at this point in his career some maturation or common sense and not sound like a desperate teen idol, following what they think is the blueprint to get played in all the shopping malls. Fergie is currently like Bob Dylan next to Prince. I also love how since he's a JW he takes this sanctimonious road of not swearing, yet will pant some juvenile come on -- because as long as he's not swearing, he can lust all he wants, I mean, they might be talking about marriage, right? What a joke. It's like the Christian who thinks they're still being holy as long as they just have oral sex. Prince is the biggest colonized mind of them all. I think his ability to no longer think for himself is responsible for his PG rated music and lyrics. He's now got to shift his mind from its former free self to fit into the rules and regulations of his religion. As a result and so as not to say anything 'too dirty' or 'unholy... technically' he sounds like a teenager and not an adult, even though he's over fifty. You did not like Colonized mind because you say he has no rights to speak about politics...(the whole no vote/JW thing) You don't like Chocolate box because you think he is trying to play what would be played in shopping malls... You did not like Be like me, because of whatever reason (don't remember) I cannot even remember what criticizm you gave the other songs. But, if you will see the pattern/point here...no matter whether he is singing like an adult, or trying to have fun..YOU have an issue with them. And that is fine; However, why don't you stop listening? Apparently you can find nothing but fault in ALL of his newer work, so why do you continue to listen? You look like an unintelligent fool by coming in here and criticizing all the songs, yet you keep listening. I really do not care whether you like the songs or not. It does not bother nor persuade me either way. Hopefully you don't think there are people that actually use your "reviews" to make a decision on the albums. [Edited 1/16/09 23:21pm] [Edited 1/17/09 10:50am] Amen!  I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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sounds like THE PUSSYCAT DOLLS  Nicole rubbed off on Prince [Edited 1/17/09 10:55am] | |
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