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New Wendy & Lisa interview

Very interesting interview below. Enjoy!!
http://www.guardian.co.uk...heguardian
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You may know them as 'the black chicks in Prince's band', says Priya Elan. But Wendy & Lisa have a secret B-movie past, provide the spooky music to Heroes and may yet write I Kissed a Girl: The Musical


WEN-DEEEEE!" chant Pharrell and Madonna before Wendy Melvoin's funky breakdown kicks in on She's Not Me, the standout track from Madge's recent album. It's an echo of Prince's call for "Little girl Wendy's parade!" as she riffed into action more than 20 years earlier on His Royal Purpleness's anthem Kiss. From inspiring Prince to make the best music of his career to scoring the TV series Heroes, Wendy and her musical (and former life) partner Lisa Coleman have been darting about the pop culture zeitgeist for three decades. Not that anyone would know.

"For most people, we're the black chicks in lingerie who were in Prince's band," quips a very white Lisa, at Henson Recording Studios in LA. Between 1981 and 1986 Wendy & Lisa were key members of his band the Revolution and helped create some of his greatest work (including Purple Rain and Sign O' The Times). While they will be forever etched in people's minds complaining about the thermostat on Purple Rain (the infamous "Is the water warm enough?" intro from Computer Blue), theirs is a secret history that takes in the Beach Boys, Linda Blair and Trevor Horn.

Right now, the duo are currently holed up in the studio for an intense session scoring another week's episode of Heroes.

"Wendy and I score in real time," the softly spoken Lisa says. "We write and record at the same time - we have 30-35 minutes of music to do each episode."

The duo have a lot of creative freedom thanks to their personal relationship with Heroes executive producer Allan Arkush.

"We hit it off immediately," says Wendy. "We were in his office and we were looking at the pictures on his wall. There was a picture of Alan with my brother (Jonathan) who had passed away. It turned out Alan had directed the film Get Crazy which Jonathan was in. It felt like it was meant to be."

Wendy's brother, who was touring keyboardist for the Smashing Pumpkins, died in 1996 from a heroin overdose. Keen-eyed readers of sleevenotes will have observed that Jonathan also played on Prince's album Around The World In A Day along with assorted members of the Melvoin and Coleman clan. Most famously, Wendy's twin sister Susannah was engaged to Prince in the mid-80s and, it is alleged, he wrote Nothing Compares 2 U during one of their many break-ups.

The two families grew up in each other's pockets because Wendy's father Mike Melvoin and Lisa's dad Gary Coleman (no, not that one) were firm friends from the days of being LA session musicians in the 60s and 70s for the likes of Beach Boys, Barbra Streisand and Marvin Gaye.

Lisa's first foray into music started young. One band, Waldorf Salad, consisted of a pre-teen Lisa, her sister Cole and brothers David and Jonathan. "They had a single, Look At The Children. Ai-yi-yi! So cheeseball," balks Wendy.

Despite being deemed "too young" to join Waldorf Salad, Wendy and twin sister Susannah had their own ideas about their musical careers. "We decided we wanted to be the Doublemint Twins. In the US they had an ad campaign for the gum where they would only hire twins," explains Wendy. "So we went to New York to try and get hired but they thought we were too bohemian, not middle America enough."

Meanwhile, Lisa continued her teen forays into stardom, with a notable appearance in Sarah T - Portrait Of A Teenage Alcoholic, a movie starring The Exorcist's Linda Blair making the difficult transition from child star to...something else. "It was B-movie heaven," laughs Lisa.

A few years later, Lisa joined Prince's band. He was looking for a replacement for Gayle Chapman, who'd left after deciding that a nightly routine of simulating fellatio during Head clashed with her religious beliefs.

"I didn't know what he expected when I joined," Lisa admits. "Prince was so separate from the band." Being one of "Prince's ladies" she soon realised that her stage costume should consist of lingerie and makeup.

"Prince would get on my case for not dressing right - at home wearing jeans was cool but in Minneapolis it was like 'farm time'."

By the time she'd sorted out her clothes, Lisa's effete musical tastes had affected Prince's musical melting pot, too. Not only had he written a song for her (the unreleased Lisa), he was taking inspiration from her life. "I bought this vintage pink Mercury at a car auction," she remembers. "It was so bitching-looking that Prince used to borrow it and dent it, which I'd make him feel bad about. He slept in it one time and came up with Little Red Corvette... even though it was a pink Mercury."

Meanwhile Wendy had sung on the track Free (on the album 1999) "as a test" but that's as far it went; he didn't even know she could play guitar. All that changed when the extended Melvoin-Coleman clan went out to Manhattan to spend Christmas with Lisa, on the last leg of the 1999 tour.

"Wendy freeformed on an acoustic and Prince was blown away," says Lisa. "Even Joni Mitchell heard her play some chords once and asked, 'What tuning was that? It was really beautiful.' Wendy's playing has the ability to do that." The next day, Prince's normal guitarist Dez Dickerson didn't show up for rehearsals and Wendy ended up soundchecking for him. "Then the 'Funky Little Wendy' side of her came out and it was just over," says Lisa. "Prince began a love affair with her playing."

Soon after, she joined Prince's band for $300 a week. By the time of the Purple Rain phenomenon Wendy and Lisa were playing pivotal roles. "I liked the fact that in the film we were separate to his craziness... which we were," Wendy admits. "But at the end of the film where he plays 'our' song Purple Rain - we didn't have that kind of glory in real life."

By the time of Parade they had formed a powerful musical and emotional trio, pushing Prince's music into a whole new realm of genius. "The three of us started quite a love affair," admits Lisa. "We travelled together, we'd spend a lot of time together in Nice while he was shooting Under The Cherry Moon. He trusted us."

Perhaps this growing closeness to the famously private Prince was one of the reasons that he disbanded the Revolution at the height of their powers. Despite guest appearances on Prince's recent albums and a "reunion" of sorts at the Brits in 2006, their relationship is complicated.

"The three of us really had a special relationship and it's unbreakable," says Lisa. "I really love him. He's like a brother to me. We did things that only happen in your dreams, they were some of the best times of my life. He's such a talented person, so creative."

However, Wendy remains sanguine. The duo performed at The Family Jamm!, a charity concert in 2003 which saw performances from a reunited Revolution and other Prince acolytes like Shelia E, The Family, Apollonia and Chaka Khan. There was one notable absentee, however.

"Everybody from the Purple Rain tour was there, something like 365 people, including the truck and bus drivers," Wendy says with a mix of sadness, disbelief and anger. "Prince was the only one that didn't show up. And it's just a bummer that he has to make that kind of line in the sand. He doesn't realise that he's missing out on a tremendous amount of good feeling. He sold himself short and I reserve the right to think he was entirely wrong for doing it."

Wendy and Lisa released three solo albums in the late-80s and early-90s. They were critical successes but their label, Virgin, didn't know what to do with them. "I think we were a bit too intellectual for them," says Wendy. An abortive album with perfectionist producer Trevor Horn followed ("During the playback, he'd fall asleep on the console. It was not a good sign").

Their forthcoming album White Flags Of Winter Chimneys was recorded when Heroes was on hiatus during the Hollywood writers' strike. Wendy describes it as "their best work" and the atmospheric Balloon and Beatlesy Invisible suggest an epicness only hinted at previously. There's also a supergroup album with ?uestlove from the Roots and Erykah Badu, a song they've written for the new Family album and a possible musical. "Our friend Jill Sobule did the original version of I Kissed A Girl and we've done a piss-take version in answer to Katy Perry," says Lisa. "We might do a whole musical together."

Prince may have disappeared from the scene but it's good to know that Wendy and Lisa are continuing his good work.

· White Flags Of Winter Chimneys is out in Oct. See wendyandlisa.com

* guardian.co.uk © Guardian News and Media Limited 2008
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Reply #1 posted 09/23/08 9:18am

funkyhead

a song they've written for the new Family album

stop the press!!!.
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Reply #2 posted 09/23/08 9:20am

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They were the black chicks in Prince's band? whofarted

Nice interview. Very interesting--but why's it so hard for some people to spell Sheila's name? I mean, they spelled Apollonia correctly.

But that's beside the point. Tons of interesting stuff in there. Thanks for posting.
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Reply #3 posted 09/23/08 9:30am

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I don't know about you all, but I want to see a clip of Lisa in that B-Movie!! eek razz cool
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Reply #4 posted 09/23/08 10:18am

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funkyhead said:

a song they've written for the new Family album

stop the press!!!.


YAY! YAY YAY YAY!

My inner 13-year old is happy!
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Reply #5 posted 09/23/08 10:30am

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C'mon... are they really pissed that he didn't show for the Family Jam after they skipped his Celebration reunions earlier.... eek
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Reply #6 posted 09/23/08 10:43am

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GOOD ARTICLE/INTERVIEW. THANKS biggrin

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Reply #7 posted 09/23/08 10:50am

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I checked wendies playing on the Madonna song, it's gooood biggrin

Can't wait to get the album !
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Reply #8 posted 09/23/08 10:53am

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funksterr said:

C'mon... are they really pissed that he didn't show for the Family Jam after they skipped his Celebration reunions earlier.... eek


that event sounds like a lion's den for prince. folks still pissed off from things that happened 25 years ago. lol

i'm just kidding. razz
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Reply #9 posted 09/23/08 11:08am

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However, Wendy remains sanguine. The duo performed at The Family Jamm!, a charity concert in 2003 which saw performances from a reunited Revolution and other Prince acolytes like Shelia E, The Family, Apollonia and Chaka Khan. There was one notable absentee, however.

"Everybody from the Purple Rain tour was there, something like 365 people, including the truck and bus drivers," Wendy says with a mix of sadness, disbelief and anger. "Prince was the only one that didn't show up. And it's just a bummer that he has to make that kind of line in the sand. He doesn't realise that he's missing out on a tremendous amount of good feeling. He sold himself short and I reserve the right to think he was entirely wrong for doing it."


- i like the fact that Wendy keeps it real- i went to the family jamm- i flew all the way from Jersey to LA and even tho Prince didn't show up it was worth it to hear Mia Boca Live and The Revolution play America and I can't forget about the Family and Madhouse performance.

Sheila said they were going to put that tour together and go on the road but it never materialised -

I'm so sick of Prince, he'd rather play with a bunch of celebrities than to celebrate his life with those who love him most.. in the words of one of his wack songs "Strange But True" honestly i think Prince is a user.. I will not buy his new book.. but i will buy the new Wendy and Lisa CD.. I love those girls, the Revolution was the best music he ever made, thank you Wedny and Lisa for adding color to his music, as you can see the color has faded, this new band is not funky at all- long love Girl Bros.._ now i truly have something to look forward to in Oct. listening to "Hip Hop Love"
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Reply #10 posted 09/23/08 11:13am

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Interesting.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #11 posted 09/23/08 11:25am

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wonder505 said:

funksterr said:

C'mon... are they really pissed that he didn't show for the Family Jam after they skipped his Celebration reunions earlier.... eek


that event sounds like a lion's den for prince. folks still pissed off from things that happened 25 years ago. lol

i'm just kidding. razz


Co Sign...and I'm not kidding. I just think they miss him terribly. The line in the sand is just that thin line btwn love and hate. We've all felt it. yes
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Reply #12 posted 09/23/08 11:50am

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funksterr said:

C'mon... are they really pissed that he didn't show for the Family Jam after they skipped his Celebration reunions earlier.... eek

Yeah, it's kinda silly. What's even more silly is that Carmen Electra and Apollonia were invited to The Family Jamm and yet members of the NPG were not. eek I'm just saying...shrug
[Edited 9/23/08 13:45pm]
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Reply #13 posted 09/23/08 12:33pm

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Alliasan said:

funkyhead said:

a song they've written for the new Family album

stop the press!!!.


YAY! YAY YAY YAY!

My inner 13-year old is happy!



A NEW Family album!!! biggrin

Bring it on!
The greatest live performer of our times was is and always will be Prince.

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All of it. Everything. Is U.
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Reply #14 posted 09/23/08 12:37pm

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Happy Warm Feelings!!! Happy Warm Feelings!!!
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kjamal said:

However, Wendy remains sanguine. The duo performed at The Family Jamm!, a charity concert in 2003 which saw performances from a reunited Revolution and other Prince acolytes like Shelia E, The Family, Apollonia and Chaka Khan. There was one notable absentee, however.

"Everybody from the Purple Rain tour was there, something like 365 people, including the truck and bus drivers," Wendy says with a mix of sadness, disbelief and anger. "Prince was the only one that didn't show up. And it's just a bummer that he has to make that kind of line in the sand. He doesn't realise that he's missing out on a tremendous amount of good feeling. He sold himself short and I reserve the right to think he was entirely wrong for doing it."


- i like the fact that Wendy keeps it real- i went to the family jamm- i flew all the way from Jersey to LA and even tho Prince didn't show up it was worth it to hear Mia Boca Live and The Revolution play America and I can't forget about the Family and Madhouse performance.

Sheila said they were going to put that tour together and go on the road but it never materialised -

I'm so sick of Prince, he'd rather play with a bunch of celebrities than to celebrate his life with those who love him most.. in the words of one of his wack songs "Strange But True" honestly i think Prince is a user.. I will not buy his new book.. but i will buy the new Wendy and Lisa CD.. I love those girls, the Revolution was the best music he ever made, thank you Wedny and Lisa for adding color to his music, as you can see the color has faded, this new band is not funky at all- long love Girl Bros.._ now i truly have something to look forward to in Oct. listening to "Hip Hop Love"


i guess wendy 4got 2 mention that Morris WASN'T there either and Sheila was really pissed about it especially since she got dressed up like morris with the time 2 do jungle love and was changing 2 the lyrics somewhat 2 "cuss" morris out about it.

but i have 2 disagree with u about his best music ever but that's 4 another topic/thread
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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simm0061 said:

funksterr said:

C'mon... are they really pissed that he didn't show for the Family Jam after they skipped his Celebration reunions earlier.... eek

Yeah, it's kinda silly. What's even more silly is that Carmen Electra and Appolonia were invited to The Family Jamm and yet members of the NPG were not. eek I'm just saying...shrug



WORD!! highfive
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #17 posted 09/23/08 1:29pm

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simm0061 said:

I don't know about you all, but I want to see a clip of Lisa in that B-Movie!! eek razz cool

I second this nod
Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song wall
Proud Wendy and Lisa Fancy Lesbian asskisser thumbs up!
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Reply #18 posted 09/23/08 1:34pm

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Cool, thanks for posting this!

It's interesting hearing a little more about some of my favorite Prince associates. I knew Wendy was great on guitar, but to know he was that floored by her is incredible. He knows talent for sure wink

It's nice to know that Lisa is still very open and enthusiastic about Prince because most of his proteges/ex-band mates have held grudges against him for something he did. Wendy still seems a bit upset with him, but deep down, she still enjoys his company when they do see one another.
had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone
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Reply #19 posted 09/23/08 2:40pm

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cool cool Thanks! cool cool
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Reply #20 posted 09/23/08 3:15pm

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i guess wendy 4got 2 mention that Morris WASN'T there either and Sheila was really pissed about it especially since she got dressed up like morris with the time 2 do jungle love and was changing 2 the lyrics somewhat 2 "cuss" morris out about it.

but i have 2 disagree with u about his best music ever but that's 4 another topic/thread[/quote]

the reason why we came 2gether was to give to Sheila's charity which is still around, can't say that about love4oneanother.. and to celebrate our love for Prince's music, not Morris! Morris i heard wanted to get paid and wasn't about the charity and celebration of it all..Levi was also suppose 2 b there but 4 some reason or another backed out, i hear him and Prince still don't see eye to eye.

Now I will battle the Revolution vs NPG music( and the many various forms the NPG comes in) any day! U can't stop Prince & The Revolution, they may not have been the best band live, but in the studio they TOP!!

And this new band comes is my least favorite band next 2 the band that Kirky J played in.. this band is just not funky, they play like a cover band, and there u have it, that's why they cover so many songs, this vers of the NPG is a cover band mystery solved.. listening 2 "Large Room W/ No Lights" .
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Reply #21 posted 09/23/08 3:32pm

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Very cool
canada

Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture!
REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince
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Reply #22 posted 09/23/08 3:36pm

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kjamal said:

i guess wendy 4got 2 mention that Morris WASN'T there either and Sheila was really pissed about it especially since she got dressed up like morris with the time 2 do jungle love and was changing 2 the lyrics somewhat 2 "cuss" morris out about it.

but i have 2 disagree with u about his best music ever but that's 4 another topic/thread


the reason why we came 2gether was to give to Sheila's charity which is still around, can't say that about love4oneanother.. and to celebrate our love for Prince's music, not Morris! Morris i heard wanted to get paid and wasn't about the charity and celebration of it all..Levi was also suppose 2 b there but 4 some reason or another backed out, i hear him and Prince still don't see eye to eye.

Now I will battle the Revolution vs NPG music( and the many various forms the NPG comes in) any day! U can't stop Prince & The Revolution, they may not have been the best band live, but in the studio they TOP!!

And this new band comes is my least favorite band next 2 the band that Kirky J played in.. this band is just not funky, they play like a cover band, and there u have it, that's why they cover so many songs, this vers of the NPG is a cover band mystery solved.. listening 2 "Large Room W/ No Lights" .


how do you know love4oneanother is not around?
[Edited 9/23/08 15:37pm]
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Reply #23 posted 09/23/08 5:00pm

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great read - I hope the new album rocks
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Reply #24 posted 09/23/08 5:09pm

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It's nice to know that Lisa is still very open and enthusiastic about Prince because most of his proteges/ex-band mates have held grudges against him for something he did. Wendy still seems a bit upset with him, but deep down, she still enjoys his company when they do see one another.[/quote]


I think they still love him very much and miss him - I still don;t hink they would put up with his shit now though. They are just as successful on their own.
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Reply #25 posted 09/23/08 5:17pm

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Good article. Thanks
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kjamal said:

i guess wendy 4got 2 mention that Morris WASN'T there either and Sheila was really pissed about it especially since she got dressed up like morris with the time 2 do jungle love and was changing 2 the lyrics somewhat 2 "cuss" morris out about it.

but i have 2 disagree with u about his best music ever but that's 4 another topic/thread


the reason why we came 2gether was to give to Sheila's charity which is still around, can't say that about love4oneanother.. and to celebrate our love for Prince's music, not Morris! Morris i heard wanted to get paid and wasn't about the charity and celebration of it all..Levi was also suppose 2 b there but 4 some reason or another backed out, i hear him and Prince still don't see eye to eye.

Now I will battle the Revolution vs NPG music( and the many various forms the NPG comes in) any day! U can't stop Prince & The Revolution, they may not have been the best band live, but in the studio they TOP!!

And this new band comes is my least favorite band next 2 the band that Kirky J played in.. this band is just not funky, they play like a cover band, and there u have it, that's why they cover so many songs, this vers of the NPG is a cover band mystery solved.. listening 2 "Large Room W/ No Lights" .[/quote]

b sure 2 recount that whole entire thing 2 wendy will ya? and i do remember that morris wanted 2 get paid. but whatever went down may have been squashed by all since all have been on the stage with prince since that family jamm.

now as 4 debating the revolution ..i will smash u with the npg of the gold xperience 2 the revolution ..bring it 2 me via orgnotes.
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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wonder505 said:

kjamal said:

i guess wendy 4got 2 mention that Morris WASN'T there either and Sheila was really pissed about it especially since she got dressed up like morris with the time 2 do jungle love and was changing 2 the lyrics somewhat 2 "cuss" morris out about it.

but i have 2 disagree with u about his best music ever but that's 4 another topic/thread


the reason why we came 2gether was to give to Sheila's charity which is still around, can't say that about love4oneanother.. and to celebrate our love for Prince's music, not Morris! Morris i heard wanted to get paid and wasn't about the charity and celebration of it all..Levi was also suppose 2 b there but 4 some reason or another backed out, i hear him and Prince still don't see eye to eye.

Now I will battle the Revolution vs NPG music( and the many various forms the NPG comes in) any day! U can't stop Prince & The Revolution, they may not have been the best band live, but in the studio they TOP!!

And this new band comes is my least favorite band next 2 the band that Kirky J played in.. this band is just not funky, they play like a cover band, and there u have it, that's why they cover so many songs, this vers of the NPG is a cover band mystery solved.. listening 2 "Large Room W/ No Lights" .


how do you know love4oneanother is not around?
[Edited 9/23/08 15:37pm]



xactly ..i'm right here!!! big grin
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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simm0061 said:

I don't know about you all, but I want to see a clip of Lisa in that B-Movie!! eek razz cool

U don't want to see her more than me, u can believe that! razz
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Well, Wendy obviously wasn't in the band in 81. Damn,..pretty soon, their going to have her playing in P's band before Lisa. I like how Lisa always makes it her biz to say how much she loves Prince. I think that's cool. I've said on here before that Lisa and P were really close. And she always says that, still to this day. It's no hurt feelings from Lisa's end. That's because Lisa KNEW Prince as a person.
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