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Reply #30 posted 01/29/08 6:07am

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Risico said:

Even though I feel Planet Earth is more consistent than 3121, I do have to give to the latter album props for the few killer tunes that are on there. 3121's low points may be lower than PE's, but the highs are certainly higher.

And that's PE's big weakness - While most of the tunes are listenable and mildly enjoyable, there's nothing particularly inspired or energetic on there.



Thats the way i feel.3121 has more highs but PE is a more consistent if unspectacular listen. I like the more organic sounding songs on it. 3121 has that big overprocessed sound which is OK for some songs but comes across as garish for an entire album.
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Reply #31 posted 01/29/08 2:39pm

jonylawson

i also never realy understand why te amo corazon doesnt get props

for me its coming from his real laid back artistic sound

of course(inhales) ITS ONLY MY OPINION!!
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Reply #32 posted 01/29/08 4:47pm

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to me, PE saw Prince really stretching for once instead of rehashing some of the same old boring new r+b/neo-soul/hip-hop grooves and beats that he's been using for Musicology and 3121. I liked those two albums but PE has a more of a varied mix than the previous two. And it seemed as if he had an agenda, kinda like The Rainbow Children.
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Reply #33 posted 01/29/08 5:48pm

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Milty said:

to me, PE saw Prince really stretching for once instead of rehashing some of the same old boring new r+b/neo-soul/hip-hop grooves and beats that he's been using for Musicology and 3121. I liked those two albums but PE has a more of a varied mix than the previous two. And it seemed as if he had an agenda, kinda like The Rainbow Children.

eek eek maybe your version is different to mine.....
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Reply #34 posted 01/29/08 6:41pm

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jonylawson said:

Milty said:

to me, PE saw Prince really stretching for once instead of rehashing some of the same old boring new r+b/neo-soul/hip-hop grooves and beats that he's been using for Musicology and 3121. I liked those two albums but PE has a more of a varied mix than the previous two. And it seemed as if he had an agenda, kinda like The Rainbow Children.

eek eek maybe your version is different to mine.....



i mean, i'm not crazy over the album but its less polished IMO than those two albums. PE to me sounds more raw than the others.
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Reply #35 posted 01/29/08 6:45pm

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Scrap 'em both, they have nothing on Rainbow Children. Some of you must have forgotten what true Prince music is like.

Prince never used to be predictable and bland . . . Now I expect nothing more, or less, than what he has done in the last three CDs, a batch of throwaways with a dull flame of brilliance, like he is just fucking around. JW done brainwashed the boy.
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Reply #36 posted 01/29/08 7:56pm

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FUCK 3121!

YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT, I SAID IT!

PRINCE ROCKED OUT WITH "PLANET EARTH"!!!! guitar headbang
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Reply #37 posted 01/30/08 6:14am

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lastdecember said:

My only issue with PE is that he put in tracks like FBM and Mr.


Ha. They're my two faves on the album. lol
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Reply #38 posted 01/30/08 6:56am

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jonylawson said:

Ive just been watching some of 3121-saturday night live..the chaka tribute,the naacp awards

shit for most of 06 the man was on fire supported by (for my money) a genuinly good album

3121-stone cold funk

the word-a modern day classic

love

satisfied..all great great songs adding to the prince canon...

so it was some surprise that planet earth was so ..disposable-apart from FUTURE BABY MAMMA for me none of this album stands up

he should ahve given away 3121 for free in the uk as it sold jackshit and would have reminded audiences why after 30 yrs he is still indespinsible as opposed to fiving the impression hes now disposable



It seem like u really wasnt feeling the rock Prince more than R&B Funk Prince. He was just giving a different side of his music. He is diverse in that way.

3121 sounded like some out-takes to me..which is why its one of my favorites.

Howeer...2 me it sounds like Prince really hasnt been inspired since Rainbow Children. There is experimentality that is lacking.
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Reply #39 posted 01/30/08 2:40pm

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It seem like u really wasnt feeling the rock Prince more than R&B Funk Prince. He was just giving a different side of his music. He is diverse in that way.


say what??? prince is diverse???

oh shit !!n thanks man! it all makes crystal now!in 26 years of listening to the man i never knew that..... neutral
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Reply #40 posted 01/30/08 3:07pm

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3121 was his best in years, every song was a stand out, whereas Planet Earth was astep back, it just sounded tired and below par, wheres the standout tracks, the musical diversity, it all sounded the same, one withery song after another. I sold my copy after listening to it once.
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Reply #41 posted 01/30/08 3:25pm

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tane1976 said:

3121 was his best in years, every song was a stand out, whereas Planet Earth was astep back, it just sounded tired and below par, wheres the standout tracks, the musical diversity, it all sounded the same, one withery song after another. I sold my copy after listening to it once.


I abhor Planet Earth, but really, you just listened to it once? Prince's music needs way more time devoted to it than that before a proper evaluation of its quality can be made.
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Reply #42 posted 01/30/08 6:40pm

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jonylawson said:

It seem like u really wasnt feeling the rock Prince more than R&B Funk Prince. He was just giving a different side of his music. He is diverse in that way.


say what??? prince is diverse???

oh shit !!n thanks man! it all makes crystal now!in 26 years of listening to the man i never knew that..... neutral



I thought u was a newbie didnt look @ ur name




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Reply #43 posted 01/30/08 7:00pm

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I LOVE 3121. It's my favorite Prince CD this decade so far. I played it on my iPod on the way home from work a week or 2 ago and I loved it as much as I did last year and the year before. It album has aged well and I expect it to contiue to age well. I also expect more people who hated 3121 when it dropped in 06 (can you believe it's been almost 2 years now?!) to dig this album within 5 years. You watch.

As for Planet Earth, I like the CD but it's already dated to me. There are real gems on there but it gets sketchy after The 1 U Wanna C. It's not bad but Prince could have come more correct than he did. It's all good though, here's to the next CD and I hope to God it's super funky, cause we need some hard funk in our musical diets now!


u can semi come back in2 my head now ..but u got 2 get rid of the one u wanna c shake and admit the only gem is somewhere here on earth nod
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #44 posted 01/30/08 7:11pm

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3121 would have been huge had it been released back in 1994, instead of Come.


come is better than PE, but like my girl flowerz said, everyone has their own opinion ..come is a great album nod 3121 is a good album ..planet earth is garbage!!! thumbs up!
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #45 posted 01/30/08 7:24pm

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PurpleKnight said:

An album like 3121 really sums up the struggle Prince seems to have found myself in since Musicology's success: a choice between delivering the same standard fare at the expense of creativity and artistic growth, and, conversely, innovating at the risk of eroding a rekindled mainstream accessibility and critical acceptance.

3121 captures that dichotomy perfectly. Half of the album is filled with Prince's most energetic and charming pop songs since The Gold Experience, especially in infectious, memorable, and, at times, really inspired songs like Love, The Word, and (especially) The Dance.

Unfortunately, other songs like Incense and Candles, Satisfied, and Get on the Boat resemble a nervous artist pandering to rigid, established genres to safeguard his popularity.

Planet Earth sounds like an album where the insecure Prince has won out over his more daring other half. The album especially collapses under the banality of its lyrics.


I can agree with that.
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Reply #46 posted 01/30/08 7:51pm

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tane1976 said:

3121 was his best in years, every song was a stand out, whereas Planet Earth was astep back, it just sounded tired and below par, wheres the standout tracks, the musical diversity, it all sounded the same, one withery song after another. I sold my copy after listening to it once.


I abhor Planet Earth, but really, you just listened to it once? Prince's music needs way more time devoted to it than that before a proper evaluation of its quality can be made.

Couldn't have said it any better myself. I would have thrown away ATWIAD, Parade, SOTT and Lovesexy if I judged the albums with my first listens when I was a kid.
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Reply #47 posted 01/30/08 7:59pm

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JoeTyler said:

3121 would have been huge had it been released back in 1994, instead of Come.


come is better than PE, but like my girl flowerz said, everyone has their own opinion ..come is a great album nod 3121 is a good album .. planet earth is garbage!!! thumbs up!


this is how i feel lol ..
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Reply #48 posted 01/30/08 8:17pm

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Flowerz said:

L4OATheOriginal said:



come is better than PE, but like my girl flowerz said, everyone has their own opinion ..come is a great album nod 3121 is a good album .. planet earth is garbage!!! thumbs up!


this is how i feel lol ..


Planet Earth isn't garbage but it struggles with any sense of identity or theme. Songs like Planet Earth, Somewhere Here On Earth, Lion Of Judah, Resolution at least feel like pieces of what could've been a good album. In the end though PE just feels like a mishmash of everything. Which is pretty much what 3121 was but that had 3 or 4 really top drawer Prince songs. The last three Prince albums have all suffered from a lack of focus or concept. It's about the product now for Prince and not what is neccessarily inside.

I disliked The Rainbow Children but i admired it in a way because it was Prince being passionate about the music for the first time in ages, he truly cared about that project. Remember how good the ONA shows were which backed up the album? I hope Prince manages to rekindle some of the passion and focus again.
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Reply #49 posted 01/30/08 8:17pm

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L4OATheOriginal said:

purplecam said:

I LOVE 3121. It's my favorite Prince CD this decade so far. I played it on my iPod on the way home from work a week or 2 ago and I loved it as much as I did last year and the year before. It album has aged well and I expect it to contiue to age well. I also expect more people who hated 3121 when it dropped in 06 (can you believe it's been almost 2 years now?!) to dig this album within 5 years. You watch.

As for Planet Earth, I like the CD but it's already dated to me. There are real gems on there but it gets sketchy after The 1 U Wanna C. It's not bad but Prince could have come more correct than he did. It's all good though, here's to the next CD and I hope to God it's super funky, cause we need some hard funk in our musical diets now!


u can semi come back in2 my head now ..but u got 2 get rid of the one u wanna c shake and admit the only gem is somewhere here on earth nod

I can't do that man. The One U Wanna C popped up on my iPod tonight on my way home and I forgot how great the song was. But we both agree that Somewhere Here on Earth is an absolute beauty. One that proves that Prince still has it IMHO. I guess I'm really out of your head now. lol
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Reply #50 posted 01/31/08 2:40am

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purplecam said:

L4OATheOriginal said:



u can semi come back in2 my head now ..but u got 2 get rid of the one u wanna c shake and admit the only gem is somewhere here on earth nod

I can't do that man. The One U Wanna C popped up on my iPod tonight on my way home and I forgot how great the song was. But we both agree that Somewhere Here on Earth is an absolute beauty. One that proves that Prince still has it IMHO. I guess I'm really out of your head now. lol


It's happening!!! Planet Earth is growing on alot of us. Some quicker than others.

I didn't rate it as anything special initially and my opinion didn't change much through all the months up to the end of last year!

This last month though is the opposite, and it is getting played more and more. And each time is better than the last.

I'm also noticing on the org that more that others who also initially dismissed it, are starting warm to it - even if it is just track by track!!!

L4OA mate; you know your music; your Prince; and your comments and opinions are always constructive, educated, and objective, so you can't its not even worth thinking or accusing you, that you hate Planet Earth for the sake of it.

I hope one day that you might feel the same - maybe over the next few years or so!!!

pray
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Reply #51 posted 01/31/08 2:47am

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jonylawson said:

...apart from FUTURE BABY MAMMA for me none of this album stands up...


And it's this part of your post that'll probably make a lot of people dismiss your opinion on the album.

The one song that sounds the most plastic and bland on the CD.


I like 'Future Baby Mamma' boxed didn't realize that so many fans dislike it,lol.
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Reply #52 posted 01/31/08 6:12am

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mentalist said:

purplecam said:


I can't do that man. The One U Wanna C popped up on my iPod tonight on my way home and I forgot how great the song was. But we both agree that Somewhere Here on Earth is an absolute beauty. One that proves that Prince still has it IMHO. I guess I'm really out of your head now. lol


It's happening!!! Planet Earth is growing on alot of us. Some quicker than others.

I didn't rate it as anything special initially and my opinion didn't change much through all the months up to the end of last year!

This last month though is the opposite, and it is getting played more and more. And each time is better than the last.

I'm also noticing on the org that more that others who also initially dismissed it, are starting warm to it - even if it is just track by track!!!

L4OA mate; you know your music; your Prince; and your comments and opinions are always constructive, educated, and objective, so you can't its not even worth thinking or accusing you, that you hate Planet Earth for the sake of it.

I hope one day that you might feel the same - maybe over the next few years or so!!!

pray

That's the thing about Prince albums. They really do take a while, sometimes a long time to "digest". I said it before, it wasn't until 1998-1999 that I finally realized how brilliant and kickass Parade, Sign O The Times and Lovesexy really is. I've seen in the last year or 2 more and more people talk about how brilliant The Rainbow Children is. Even I have more appreciation for it. I expect in a few years time, the albums released in the last 3 years will get evem more appreciation from the fans too, even if it's just a little bit. It's the cycle that never ends. lol
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Reply #53 posted 01/31/08 7:33am

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Flowerz said:

L4OATheOriginal said:



come is better than PE, but like my girl flowerz said, everyone has their own opinion ..come is a great album nod 3121 is a good album .. planet earth is garbage!!! thumbs up!


this is how i feel lol ..


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Reply #54 posted 01/31/08 7:37am

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WildheartXXX said:

Flowerz said:



this is how i feel lol ..


Planet Earth isn't garbage but it struggles with any sense of identity or theme. Songs like Planet Earth, Somewhere Here On Earth, Lion Of Judah, Resolution at least feel like pieces of what could've been a good album. In the end though PE just feels like a mishmash of everything. Which is pretty much what 3121 was but that had 3 or 4 really top drawer Prince songs. The last three Prince albums have all suffered from a lack of focus or concept. It's about the product now for Prince and not what is neccessarily inside.

I disliked The Rainbow Children but i admired it in a way because it was Prince being passionate about the music for the first time in ages, he truly cared about that project. Remember how good the ONA shows were which backed up the album? I hope Prince manages to rekindle some of the passion and focus again.



the song in bold is the only song along with guitar that is worth any time mentioning ..the rest is pure dog shit no matter how u slice it ..it's still a piece a shit album ..4 every song u mentioned that r quality tracks ..they aren't even memorable. lion of judah? puhleeze..at least the word had a beat and a melody that is memorable..even resolution is not as effective as reflection from musicology
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #55 posted 01/31/08 7:38am

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purplecam said:

L4OATheOriginal said:



u can semi come back in2 my head now ..but u got 2 get rid of the one u wanna c shake and admit the only gem is somewhere here on earth nod

I can't do that man. The One U Wanna C popped up on my iPod tonight on my way home and I forgot how great the song was. But we both agree that Somewhere Here on Earth is an absolute beauty. One that proves that Prince still has it IMHO. I guess I'm really out of your head now. lol


no i said u step one foot back in ..cause u like that song and i like guitar so we're split ..damn r we becoming "gemini"? lol
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #56 posted 01/31/08 12:42pm

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L4OATheOriginal said:

purplecam said:


I can't do that man. The One U Wanna C popped up on my iPod tonight on my way home and I forgot how great the song was. But we both agree that Somewhere Here on Earth is an absolute beauty. One that proves that Prince still has it IMHO. I guess I'm really out of your head now. lol


no i said u step one foot back in ..cause u like that song and i like guitar so we're split ..damn r we becoming "gemini"? lol

I dig Guitar. That's a cool track. nod
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Reply #57 posted 01/31/08 4:27pm

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Yeah, Guitar is good. I can agree with that.
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Reply #58 posted 01/31/08 4:30pm

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I still think planet earth is one of the worse albums created by prince, tho I loves Chelsea rodgers and Somehwere here on earth, the rest stinks!!!


Give me sum 3121 funk anyday!!

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Reply #59 posted 01/31/08 5:25pm

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purplecam said:

PurpleKnight said:



I abhor Planet Earth, but really, you just listened to it once? Prince's music needs way more time devoted to it than that before a proper evaluation of its quality can be made.

Couldn't have said it any better myself. I would have thrown away ATWIAD, Parade, SOTT and Lovesexy if I judged the albums with my first listens when I was a kid.



Yes I normally give any album more than one listen, And with Prince theres always a track or two that stands out, and therefore renders the album ready for a second listen. With the lack of a tracklisting I could not work what was what, and nothing appealed to me, it was like lift musak, and nothing stood out at all. I guess i got lazy after listening to it, left it for two weeks and couldnt be bothered with it and sold it. Its garbage and a reason why Princes fan base has dropped to under a quarter mil.
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