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Printable resistance76 said: Neil Young and Kurt Cobain! Suck? R U Guys Serious?
As far as lead guitar i mean, sure they don't really put it down but as for rhythm guitar both genius in their own right, Neil and Kurt are more known for songwriting, Even though they both can (or could, in Kurt's case) play, they're not technical or flashy at it--but what they play fits their songs. | |
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2 me he is the best thing in the world.Surely he has a star & hand prints on that hollywood walk way wots it called again? | |
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LoDog said: It's a travesty that he wasn't on the list in the first place. Who comes up with these list anyway?
some stupid magazine called Rolling Stone. 
Full of adverts almost no interesting thing about music. I do not consider RS as one of my fav. magazines. we do not stop playing because we grow old , we grow old because we stop playing | |
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iloveannie said: EmbattledWarrior said: that i disagree... thats just fanaticism... I agree too  Al Di Meola, Joe Satriani, John McLaughlin, Django Rheinhardt, Larry Carlton, PAT METHENY, Charlie Christian, Joe Bonamassa, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Julian Bream, Chet Atkins, Dave Wilcox, oh the list is endless. Yes Prince is very very good but solely as a guitarist he has a lot of peers. And I know he would agree in an instant 
Now as a musician... OMG. . you named my favorite guitarists. Even though Prince is my favorite overall musician. . Joe and Al are better GUITARSTS. . my husband turned me on to them. As a matter of fact. . I walked down the aisle to a Prince song (Alexia DeParis) and our first song was Joe Satriani (Cryen). Fitting. . I think. | |
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Savage said: He should be top of the greatest Guitarists ever, never mind this!
He is world class. Genius is the only way to describe him! Not even in the same class as Jimi Hendrix Jimmy Page Eric Clapton | |
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cloudguitar said: iloveannie said: He is very very very good. Spaced out ideas on music creation mind you what with all the out of body stuff and fasting before creating a solo and that. I remember owning a huge poster of Passion and Warfare when I was a kid! For me Satch is the more melodic of the two. Don't like the 'competition' shredders though as they bore the shit out of me after a minute or two. And for those of you who know not of what we talk, Steve Vai got a job as Frank Zappa's 'stunt guitarist' after sending in complete transcriptions of Zappa's music. Now that is serious stuff. He talks of spending several hours bending the same note to find new ways of expressing it, slacking of the strings and placing them in odd places in order to find the limits of the instrument, that kinda thing. And rigid practice of 8 to 12 hours each day! This is the kind of dedication to the instrument that some of us here are talking about! Exploring its every nuance and taking it, like Jimi did with Leo's creation, way beyond what it's purpose was originally for. [Edited 10/4/07 5:36am] I've seen vai a number of times, but at one gig in nottingham, he was dancing about, did a kind of prince scream, then looked a bit sheepish, and said 'i just want to be prince'! he was joking obviously, but i suspect he has a lot of respect for the guy! Yes, he did the same thing in Holland at 2 different gigs. Part of the act. And yeah, Steve has a lot of respect for Prince. | |
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Prince's diversity of style does set him apart imo. plus, how many of these guitarist's are singing while laying down the lead? | |
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It always amazes me. There's loads of folk out there who still don't appreciate Prince as a guitarist. That's how I first got into his music.
I have guitarist mates who were really surprised when I played some of his classic performances, like the Hall of Fame gig, etc. 'He's pretty good isn't he?' "Don't give me no funky, funky blue cheese, we're all members of the animal kingdom..." | |
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Detroit said: Cool. He should've been on the original list, without a doubt, but Eddie Hazel not making the original list is just criminal. I guess they never heard Maggot Brain...
 How n the world did Prince get over looked???the brother has 4 years been playing the hell out of a guitar. btrump | |
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What about Ernie Isley? Peace and be wild! | |
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... [Edited 10/6/07 5:04am] | |
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iloveannie said: hibiscadelphis said: Prince's diversity of style does set him apart imo. plus, how many of these guitarist's are singing while laying down the lead?
A lot. Go to a decent pub gig and you'll see most guitarist filling that role. So next time watch Prince as he approaches the dusty end and then tell me he's still singing
I was listening to some more last night and must say he really is very impressive and has this odd little style of his going on. It's hard to say whether he has one single tone that's his though as he really is an effects junkie. I guess the Boss pedals give quite a bit of fizz to his distortion (although Best of You was Prince using overdrive for a change) and his very heavy use of wah really gives him that hollowed-out sound when it's not being altered. His sound has quite a bit of bite at times but that is probably due to the Crybabies and his Hohner (is that a humbucker or P90 style in the bridge?). I'm guessing he uses Seymour Duncan's on his Strats as they are quite often the default for a lot of players wanting more balls to their Strat (I use Shed Pickups in mine: hand wound from a tiny little place in Cardiff (Dave Dearnely uses them A LOT!). Right I'm tired (been on nights and not sleeping well this week  4/5 hours each day ) so am gonna stop rambling. | |
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Did any1 think about Jesse Johnson?? bet he didn't make the list either. | |
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whendovescry2000 said: HenkL said: I open up the org's Top 100 bass player list:
Marcus Miller Jamaaladeen Tacuma Jaco Pastorius Bootsy Flea Marc King Stanley Clarke Larry Graham Verdine White James Alexander Victor Wooten Louis Johnson Bernard Edwards Marvin Isley Robert Bell Marshall "Rock" Jones Graham Maby Any more? um...Meshell Ndegeocello But you do acknowledge Louis Johnson How about Terry Lewis?? | |
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orion717 said: Did any1 think about Jesse Johnson?? bet he didn't make the list either.
I have Jesse's "Bare My Naked Soul" CD. It's more rock and blues than his earlier solo stuff. I've always liked his playing and the way he can go from funky rhythms to rock solos. BTW--If you like funk/rock guitar playing, check out Stevie Salas. | |
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Prince isn"t under-rated.
Everyone else is just over-rated. | |
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prince maybe is not in the same class as jimi hendrix (or he is  ) but
prince is much better guitar player then clapton and jimmy page. in every aspect of guitar playing prince is better then clapton and page. im not sure clapton even knows to play rhythm on guitar | |
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I always say Prince's arm is his guitar! He is one of the best guitar players I have ever seen!!!!! He truly is God on guitar. Hail to Prince! Hail to Prince! Its about fuckin time!
I love you Prince. keep a rockin | |
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thebanishedone said: prince maybe is not in the same class as jimi hendrix (or he is
) but
prince is much better guitar player then clapton and jimmy page. in every aspect of guitar playing prince is better then clapton and page. im not sure clapton even knows to play rhythm on guitar name the aspects ... and how Prince is better... cause you should be able to if your gonna make a ludicrous statement like that... I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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to name the aspects.
ok but let's say first jimi hendrix is a legend.guitar god number 1. he reinvented rock guitar and set standards that im affraid never will be topped. prince can't never be that. not only because he isn't able to be inovative as much as jimi was on guitar. but because its diffrent time period. in a world of today we live in a instant society. we live fast die fast ,go through a life without paying attention to little things that surround us. prince will never be better guitar player because of iconic status of jimi.same goes for satriani,steve vai,even with the fact that they play guitar much better tehnicly then jimi ever did. what are the facts? jimi died at the age of 27.he was too young,imagine what he could give to the music world if he didn't die. prince at 27 was good guitar player but not as good as jimi. but prince at 49 is for sure better guitar player then jimi . c'mon are you going to tell me that if you practise guitar for 40 years you wouldn't be better then jimi ever was??? thats stupid to think.there are many guitar players better then jii now,althought they dont play with a feeling jimi had. prince plays faster,cleaner then jimi was at his prime. prince also uses rhythm solo at the same time tehniq. respect the legends but c'mon everything in life changes so are the standards. today mesurments for amazing guitar players are some other guitar players like steve vai,joe satriani,eric johnson, not jimi hendrix. i will always enjoy and respect jimi,he is number on or number 2 in my book (depends on the mood) but i can't be ignorant to say jimi is the end of all things on rock blues guitar. he is not. sorry | |
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for me the best jimi hendrix guitarmoment is live at fillmore with band of gypsies.
but prince's indigo aftershow 28 08 2007 guitar playing is even better | |
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thebanishdone, I think you misread the question. You stated that you thought Prince was better than Page, Clapton and, in doing so perhaps it also reads the other guitarists listed in this thread. You then proceeded to say that Prince is now technically better than Jimi was. Umm, not sure of the other people here but you have lost me a little.
It's nice to see this thread not becoming a flame war though, as is so easy in these petty debates. | |
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orion717 said:[quote] whendovescry2000 said: um...Meshell Ndegeocello But you do acknowledge Louis Johnson How about Terry Lewis?? Mark Adams of SLAVE It's Tight, But I Think I Could Fit U In! | |
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oh sorry.
clapton was great in cream but his playind detorieted as time was passing . he never moved out from pentatonic scale.he didn't improve like his friend jeff beck. while i consider jimmy page a great riff master,good rhythm guitar player,i find his soloing style very sloppy. when page solo on guitar you hear notes that he didn't want you to hear. that was especialy evident during his heroin addiction 1977-1984 prince is much better guitar player then clapton and jimmy page or if you want prince can play everything clapton and page can but can those two play what prince plays on 1+1+1=3 live from aladdin for example? | |
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loveeverywhere said: http://www.contactmusic.c...st_1045313
(Photo courtesy of Rolling Stone.com) PRINCE has topped a new U.S. poll to find the Most Underrated Guitarist. The editors of rock magazine Rolling Stone asked readers to list the top rockers who failed to make their 100 Greatest Guitarists Of All Time survey. The top five is: 1. Prince 2. Kurt Cobain 3. Neil Young 4. George Harrison 5. Ace Frehley. Congrats Prince, i saw that 100 list and i thought it was shocking he wasn't voted!!! he is an amazing guitarist, even if people don't like his music they can't deny that!!!! | |
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thebanishedone said: that was especialy evident during his heroin addiction 1977-1984
ha! Sorry had to laugh at that | |
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thebanishedone said: oh sorry.
clapton was great in cream but his playind detorieted as time was passing . he never moved out from pentatonic scale.he didn't improve like his friend jeff beck. while i consider jimmy page a great riff master,good rhythm guitar player,i find his soloing style very sloppy. when page solo on guitar you hear notes that he didn't want you to hear. that was especialy evident during his heroin addiction 1977-1984 prince is much better guitar player then clapton and jimmy page or if you want prince can play everything clapton and page can but can those two play what prince plays on 1+1+1=3 live from aladdin for example? 1. The pentatonic scale is the only scale Prince uses 2. How can your playing deteriorated, did he have one to many speedballs and forget how to bend a string? 3. Page was a guitar composer, thats what made him great... I've never heard Prince compose anything like The Rain Song, or even Tangerine. Thats because Prince's specialty is improv, which is sometimes mediocre. Prince doesn't compose guitar licks... 4.Prince can play everything they can play, in his style... But he can't play like them... I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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No comparisons, please
Jimmy Page was a riff master in a way Prince wasn´t. Clapton is a great player, even today. Check his version on ´I shot the sheriff´ (Crossroads Festival)... Prince is great too in his own way. |
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Just to keep the debate raging... umm, who played the solo for Get Off? Because that ain't using any old pentatonic! | |
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iloveannie said: Just to keep the debate raging... umm, who played the solo for Get Off? Because that ain't using any old pentatonic!
Yah it is Its the minor pentatonic mixed with the harmonic minor in F I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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