"Rave" was recorded, years before it was released! I was just listening to a previously done Mojo show on "Alien Transmissions from the Butcher's Vault" on emancipationradio.com which airs on Friday's at 10pm EST and there was a mix of "Batdance" that included snippets from the song "Rave"! This recording was made in the early 90's! I guess Prince has been dipping in that vault of his, after all!

http://prince.org/msg/7/116565

Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic 1 Octobert 27th 1988
The Voice Inside
Melody Cool
Rave Un2 The joy Fantastic
God Is Alive
If I Had A Harem
Stimulation
Still Would Stand Alll Time
Elephants & Flowers
Big House
We Got The Power

Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic 2 (late 1988)
Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic
If I Had A Harem
Good Judy Girlfriend
Pink Cahsmere
Electric Chair
Am I Without U?
God Is Alive
Still Would Stand All Time
Moonbeam Levels

You guys make me sick! Ok, not really sick but highly agitated!

Oh man. I so wish he would release ALL of his previously aborted projects. I crave for classic Prince!!

1988 small club show rave to the joy fantastic final track cd 2

langebleu said:

Oh man these lists are so much bullshit. Moonbeam Levels was just as an example never part of these sessions. It was a track intended for 1999. I *could* give you the exact dates for all those recordings but guess I will leave that for another book coming up.

RUTJF 1 is NOT from 1 October 1988. It from June 1988 and does not include all the mentioned tracks.

RUTJF 2 is from July 1988. Still not the same tracks as mentioned.

RUTJF 3 IS though from October 1988. More accurate October 4th 1988. The sessions from this day (and probably days before too) included:

Big House
Breathless
Everything But U
Still Would Stand All Time
Elephants And Flowers
If I Had A Harem
Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic
Stimulation
By Alien Means
We Got The Power
Scandalous
The Voice Inside
Am I Without U?




[Edited 10/6/07 0:34am]

goodbourn said:

Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic - 1988

Recorded Paisley Park, June 1988

Played live:

26 July - Camden Palace, London
19 August - Her Paard van Troje, The Hague
31 August - Grosse Freiheit 36, Hamburg
23 October 1988 - Citi, Boston

Chastity said:

Thanks for the input, Chastity.

As I understood it, the thread to which I was pointing was not attempting to describe the dates of recording sessions that contributed towards RUTJF, so much as the possible album configurations of the RUTJF project.

As you point out, the inclusion of Moonbeam Levels looks way off, and I've no idea what resulted in the poster including that track as part of a possible album sequence.
[Edited 10/6/07 1:05am]

^ I know you just quoted another thread. Nothing wrong with that except the info there was wrong.

So just to enlighten us all I decided to jump in.

thebiscuit said:

we can't always get what we want.

Rave wasn't the oldest Vault item on the Rave (1999) album.

I Love You, But I Don't Trust You Anymore dates back to 1983 (music, not lyrics). His 3rd Aug concert included an amazing arrangement of Joni Mitchell's A Case of You which, if he changed the words, would have been unrecognisable from the source. Which is what he did in 1999.

I posted this before and no one seemed to agree (maybe they weren't familiar with that particular arrangment as A Case Of You has sounded different every time Prince has aired it), but it's definitely the same, take it from me.

langebleu said:

Rioub said:

Ahhh ... I remember this.

Didn't it come up for auction at some stage???

SexyBeautifulOne said:

u don't have to have learnt that .... its very clear that alot of later released stuff was made written earlier... even music on planet earth sounds like it was written in different eras...
Rave screams late '80s -1990.

Planet earth screams mid '90's, well the 2nd part does!

and alot of the music on the PE album is sinmilar 2 emancipation... and .;... and ... it could go on.....

^It's a fake. Moonbeam Levels was 100% sure intended for 1999. The date it was recorded was July 6th 1982. It was NEVER intended for Rave.

Chastity said:

Is Everything But U different from the Wendy & Lisa song of the same name?

Efan said:

Uptown's 'The Vault' suggests it may be the same song:

" ...although Prince is not credited for any input whatsoever to their song. They (Wendy and Lisa) may have intended for him to do some work on the song though, which is why it was mixed by Prince's recording engineer at the time, Chuck Zwicky."

I wouldn't trust Chastity at all. I remember when 3121 first came out, he said that Get on the Boat and Prettyman were the exact same track just with new vocals. When anyone who knows anything about music knows the tracks are totally different. Of course, I contested his statement and some ass-kissers defended his false statement.

Pretty sure he likes to pretend he knows the inside scoop when in fact all he does is spread false information.

Mr.langebleu knows far more than I do and I can trust his word .
Could it be that Moonbeam Levels would have been included in the Rave album?

Several of the Batman side projects (Feel U Up) were from the 82-83 time period.

muleFunk said:

Mulefunk.

I have no additional knowledge on whether 'Moonbeam Levels was ever planned for inclusion on a configuration of 'Rave'.

I don't think anyone disputes that it was recorded in L.A. in 1982 (on the date that Chastity has given).

When I checked Uptown's 'The Vault' earlier today after the above postings, it does state that the song was included in one possible configuration of 'RUTJF' but I have no idea what the basis of this statement is. It's also true that 'The Vault' for all its facts, does include errors, or statements based on evidence at the time but which would now require some correction.

So I'm interested in a bit more information on the image posted by Rioub which I recall having previously been posted here. It would also be useful to know why Chastity is 100% certain that the item is a fake and that the song was never ever considered for a configuration of 'RUTJF'.

To enlighten some of you...

If you remember from Graffiti Bridge, the movie, when Prince was in his apartment going through sheet music, one of the songs that they focused on was...ta da...

"Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic"

So, he, definitely, had the song done, by late 1989/early 1990 because that's when the movie was filmed.

{quote]

So I'm interested in a bit more information on the image posted by Rioub which I recall having previously been posted here. It would also be useful to know why Chastity is 100% certain that the item is a fake and that the song was never ever considered for a configuration of 'RUTJF'.[/quote]



Moonbeam Levels was recorded on July 7th 1982. No relation to RUTJF at all. Remixed in 1988 together with Extra Loveable ... still NO relation at all. Moonbeam Levels was intended for 1999 ..... not for Rave. Great song by the way.
[Edited 10/7/07 0:23am]

Even though I do respect Rioub a lot I think what he posted could be a VERY early track list for Graffiti Bridge. Still Moonbeam Levels is weird. I posted the real first set list of GB on Housequake. When they come back you can see it.

Chastity said:

The picture is something I've had on my hard drive for years. No idea where it's from. It certainly appears to my eyes to be Prince's handwriting, but who knows. "Moonbeam levels" is certainly an unexpected inclusion on the tracklist, but it's not unknown for Prince to use old songs.

McD said:

Really?? I've never heard that before. Just curious. How do you know?