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Thread started 09/10/07 10:22am

Smillan

Rave or New Power Soul

Hey, does anyone have any preferences between these two albums. I'd have to go along with New Power Soul - a bit hit or miss sometimes but still some nice tunes. Rave goes on a little too long. Any thoughts?
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Reply #1 posted 09/10/07 10:44am

wlcm2thdwn

I like NPS the best, it's just hipper! biggrin
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Reply #2 posted 09/10/07 11:24am

excessex

I dug Rave on release but with the exception of 'Strange But True', it's easily his most unmemorable. As for NPS, I just heard it recently for the first time and the reports of its crapness are fully exaggerated. It's a cool atmospheric album that bubbles up with funk every once in a while and is full of sounds that are crisper and more 'modern' (whatever that means) than I'm used to on Prince albums. Really like it.
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Reply #3 posted 09/10/07 11:31am

Fiona01

Whilst Mad Sex, Wasted Kisses and Come On are all great tracks, Rave is by far a more co-hesive and focused work. There is something very slap-dash about NPS... as if he had four or five funky jams and tossed together a load of filler to make an album.

Rave - despite it's flaws - has some truly magnificent moments... from the shockingly autobiographical nature of I Love U But I Don't Trust U... to the greatness of potential hits like Wherever U Go and The Greatest Romance... it's brimming with well-crafted songs with great melodies. I really believe Rave could've been huge if there hadn't of been so much record company politics going on behind the scenes.
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Reply #4 posted 09/10/07 11:54am

24chas

I like "Rave" better. It just does more for me.
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Reply #5 posted 09/10/07 12:01pm

4bjb

24chas said:

I like "Rave" better. It just does more for me.


I prefer Rave as well.
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Reply #6 posted 09/10/07 12:08pm

4bjb

Fiona01 said:

Whilst Mad Sex, Wasted Kisses and Come On are all great tracks, Rave is by far a more co-hesive and focused work. There is something very slap-dash about NPS... as if he had four or five funky jams and tossed together a load of filler to make an album.

Rave - despite it's flaws - has some truly magnificent moments... from the shockingly autobiographical nature of I Love U But I Don't Trust U... to the greatness of potential hits like Wherever U Go and The Greatest Romance... it's brimming with well-crafted songs with great melodies. I really believe Rave could've been huge if there hadn't of been so much record company politics going on behind the scenes.


I like the quote from Prince. What was going with him musically when he made this statement?
Lemme
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Reply #7 posted 09/10/07 2:02pm

wlcm2thdwn

Rave seems a little mushy and love sick to me, snap out of it Prince, nobody's that P-whipped, Mayte really put it on him back then. NPS was much more likable in my humble opinion smile
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Reply #8 posted 09/10/07 4:04pm

madhouseman

i've pondered this one as well. I've also pondered which eye to poke out, my left one or my right one.

The answer for both questions was the same...

can I choose neither?
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Reply #9 posted 09/10/07 4:36pm

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excessex said:

I dug Rave on release but with the exception of 'Strange But True', it's easily his most unmemorable. As for NPS, I just heard it recently for the first time and the reports of its crapness are fully exaggerated. It's a cool atmospheric album that bubbles up with funk every once in a while and is full of sounds that are crisper and more 'modern' (whatever that means) than I'm used to on Prince albums. Really like it.

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Reply #10 posted 09/10/07 5:17pm

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Y'know, I actually prefer NPS a little bit. It's just that the low points on Rave are easily his most offensively bad.

It has his worst cover of all time, the most pointless guests possible, and it feels like it goes on forever. It even has an advertisement; utterly tacky. Just an atrocious period in Prince history.
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Reply #11 posted 09/10/07 5:23pm

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I like Rave better. NPS is corny, minus a couple of songs.
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Reply #12 posted 09/10/07 5:26pm

JoeTyler

NPS! Shorter, funnier and free of the desperation & sell-out feel of Rave...
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Reply #13 posted 09/10/07 10:55pm

Krystal666

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NPS isn't bad but I am in love with everything Rave! biggrin
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Reply #14 posted 09/10/07 10:58pm

sexxydancer

Love'em both,but I listen 2 Rave more,so I'll have 2 go with that 1! wink
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Reply #15 posted 09/11/07 7:42am

1sexymf

Fiona01 said:

Whilst Mad Sex, Wasted Kisses and Come On are all great tracks, Rave is by far a more co-hesive and focused work. There is something very slap-dash about NPS... as if he had four or five funky jams and tossed together a load of filler to make an album.

Rave - despite it's flaws - has some truly magnificent moments... from the shockingly autobiographical nature of I Love U But I Don't Trust U... to the greatness of potential hits like Wherever U Go and The Greatest Romance... it's brimming with well-crafted songs with great melodies. I really believe Rave could've been huge if there hadn't of been so much record company politics going on behind the scenes.


Well said. I can't stand NPS except for The One. Rave gives you an inner glimpse of what was going on in his life at that time.
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Reply #16 posted 09/11/07 8:04am

dustysgirl

I don't like Rave whatsoever. I actually deleted it from my computer. I'm not saying New Power Soul is an excellent album, but it had more songs on it that I liked as compared to Rave. I really loved "Come On." And "Wasted Kisses" is such an interesting song. I don't think it was ever decided what it was truly about, was it?
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Reply #17 posted 09/11/07 8:25am

PurpleKnight

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NPS is more consistent. It's almost consistently mediocre the whole way through.

Rave is just a frustrating mess. How wonderful songs like I Love U, But I Don't Trust U Anymore and Tangerine can occupy disc space on the same album as Every Day is a Winding Road and Hot Wit U is beyond me.

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Reply #18 posted 09/11/07 10:39am

Smillan

Hey, has anyone heard any of the earlier versions of Rave unto the Joy? Didn't he originally record the song back in the 80's?
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Reply #19 posted 09/11/07 3:15pm

morningsong

I don't care what none of y'all say. I'm crazy about NPS and both Raves. So there.
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Reply #20 posted 09/11/07 3:21pm

Justin1972UK

Newpower Soul isn't just better than RUTJF but it's more enjoyable than quite a few other albums. It has a higher ratio of good songs to bad than any other of his 90s albums:

Mad Sex
Come On
The One
Wated Kisses

...all absolutely classic songs.

The only two songs I really like from RUTJF are 'Eye Love U But Eye Don't Trust U Anymore' and 'Prettyman'. The rest are average at best or at worst unmitigated crap.
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Reply #21 posted 09/11/07 3:33pm

NouveauDance

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NPS. Then, now, forever. It was a decent side project album at the time, it just got caught up in lot of hate (post-Emancipation let-down, CB, Larry, Prince on the cover of a side-project album inflating it's purpose).

Even the tracks that by rights should be standout on Rave end up lost in that nasty puddle of diarrhoea. At least NPS is a hard, firm log.



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Reply #22 posted 09/11/07 3:56pm

padawan

NouveauDance said:

NPS. Then, now, forever. It was a decent side project album at the time, it just got caught up in lot of hate (post-Emancipation let-down, CB, Larry, Prince on the cover of a side-project album inflating it's purpose).

Even the tracks that by rights should be standout on Rave end up lost in that nasty puddle of diarrhoea. At least NPS is a hard, firm log.



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Wow. That post is the shit! lol
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Reply #23 posted 09/11/07 6:32pm

Moonbeam

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I love Rave and dislike NPS.
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Reply #24 posted 09/12/07 2:40am

MattyJam

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Rave is a decent album which just lacks some good up-tempo jams. The ballads on this album are gorgeous and amongst some of his finest... it really is the up-tempos which let the side down.

The title track sounds out-of-place (well, it is from 1988), Hot Wit U and Baby Knows are crap, Everyday Is A Winding Road is a cover and So Far So Pleased isn't as spectacular as it thinks it is. The only up-tempo which is up-to-standard is Strange But True.

It's a shame really, as The Greatest Romance is a gorgeous record (I love Mike Scott's little intricate guitar parts), Wherever U Go Whatever U Do is really quite moving, The Sun The Moon & Stars has a great beat and is some of Clare Fischer's best work on a P record and Man O War and I Love U But... are two of his most sincere, heartbreaking ballads to date.

All it needed was two or three killer up-tempos and it would've been a great album.

And I like the cover so: flip u
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Reply #25 posted 09/12/07 9:09am

vainandy

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You certainly picked two of the worst Prince albums to compare. It's a hard choice but I guess I like "Rave" over "New Power Soul".
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