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Reply #60 posted 05/16/07 1:03pm

NDRU

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superspaceboy said:

NDRU said:



Interesting. Do you think they attempt sexual conversion as well as spiritual?

I guess I probably know the answer to that question, though.
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Since they are 17, rosy cheeked, and Mormon they oooze pure sexy innocence. I doubt it. sad


lol That's how I felt in Salt Lake

It's a weird dynamic, feeling attracted to the innocence that you basically know you'll never be able to corrupt, and are nearly willing to go to church to be near it.

It's also weird that they're willing to bait us like that.
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Reply #61 posted 05/16/07 2:19pm

sillyme

I am a Jehovah's Witness and we are not in the game to convert so to speak, but introduce the True teachings of the Bible to whoever desires to and is "heart ready", they eventualy convert themselves, just like I did, once they start studying and realizing that, the Truth, well, is true!

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It is correct that we do not associate ourselves with non witnesses unless we study with them.

Bad associations spoil good habits... It isvery hard to stay on course with the Bible principles so we help one another by socializing, dating, marring, etc etc only within Baptized JW's

....

For the little trivia thing, I was a strong atheist and disser of ANY religion, until I chit chatted with a few Witnesses, originaly to make fun of them, but the Truth shined through...Shockingly, to myself, I converted in 5 months!!! Now I Knock on them doors, willing to do the Work!

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Reply #62 posted 05/16/07 2:26pm

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you're right redface

i can't get those catholics with their dang popetower magazines to quit knocking at my door!


the catholic get involved with communities and the vatican with politics. muslims get heavily involved with politics as a form of reaching out. evangelicals have their mall-churches and their tv shows...others preach on tv as well.

witnesses prefer to preach one on one | door to door which is a far more intimate and personal approach yet they get slammed for it...

does that make since?

and who are we to say which form of "reaching out" is wrong?


we are perfectly within our legal, societal and moral rights to say "don't knock on my door with that"
lol lol lol
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Reply #63 posted 05/16/07 2:27pm

sillyme

[/b][/color]and any religion 'forcing' ppl to abide by a certain code..(like JW's do and some other religions) to me.. only shows the 'control' they want over ppl.. [/b][/color]
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U know I kinda see Ur point of view as it was mine before, but the witnesses DO NOT force anyone to do anything... However, to be and remain part of the congregation, U need to behave accordingly.

We, witnesses base ALL our teachings on the Bible and we "walk the talk". Everyone recognizes us on that caracteristic, we actualy do what we were commanded by Jehovah God and Jesus Christ. Period.

If U want to be one of the Jehovah's Witnesses, well U'll WANT to behave like one, because once U desire to be a witness U KNOW what U need to do and not do... Therefore naturally u comply with glee smile Like I did smile Like I do smile

If U don't well... Ur not a JW, but a "wannabe" JW and there is no generic available wink
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Reply #64 posted 05/16/07 3:36pm

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"HUMO: Do you think you're ever gonna collaborate again?
(shakes her head) Whenever he's playing in Chicago I sing a few
songs with him. But, cut a record together? I don't think so. He's
a Jehovah's witness now. That makes things difficult. Because I am not
a Jehovah's witness he's not even supposed to hang out with me. They are their
own people. Although, I really wonder if his faith still means that much to him.
Recently, in Vegas, he seemed very much like the old Prince.
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Well I know "the old Prince" is´t the old P. But a more mature One. I personaly do not like Jehovah´s I must admit. He´s mowed on, as U I hope!

Love 2 all, We are one.

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Reply #65 posted 05/16/07 4:30pm

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Humo magazine, may 18, Belgium.

interview excerpt:

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Prince just kept on going, hours on end, all through the night.
By the time we left the studio it would already be dawn. When i asked
him if he ever slept, he said: 'Mavis, sleeping is a complete waste of time'.
Then I replied: 'Well then with your permission I'm goig to waste at least
eight hours of my time.'




lol That's pretty funny. It's also nice to know that they are still in contact with one another. That's great that he invited Mavis out to Vegas.
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Reply #66 posted 05/16/07 4:36pm

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metalorange said:

Martinelli said:

Humo magazine, may 18, Belgium.

interview excerpt:
Because I am not
a Jehovah's witness he's not even supposed to hang out with me. They are their
own people. Although, I really wonder if his faith still means that much to him.
Recently, in Vegas, he seemed very much like the old Prince.


Kind of a bizarre comment if you ask me. It's not like every person around Prince or working with him is a JW; nor have I ever heard it said JWs can only hang out with other JWs. Religion can sure put up barriers but sometimes the barriers are simply imagined.


This is actually true. JWs are not "supposed" to associate with people that are not Witnesses, but they try to keep that hush hush. I've personally experienced this with friends that I had that were JWs that would kinda fall off the face of the Earth.
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Reply #67 posted 05/16/07 4:45pm

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NDRU said:

I found in Salt lake City that Mormons had the best tactic for conversion. They peppered the Tabernacle area (a tourist spot) with cute young blonde girls in summer dresses who would initiate conversation with you, eventually offering to tell you more about the Book and how you could get a free copy.


Those mormons are soooo sexual, what's up with THAT??? And what's the damn deal with the magic underwear. I'm sorry, but if Mike Huckabee wants to be president he's gon' have to explain the mystical drawers to me. . .
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Reply #68 posted 05/16/07 4:46pm

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live4lust said:

i thought prince seemed like his old self in vegas too, except when i realized "sexuality" was actually "spirituality". neutral

maybe mavis just can't hear that well.


nod Very laid back, relaxed, fun-loving. It was a joy to see.
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Reply #69 posted 05/16/07 4:46pm

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Ifsixwuz9 said:

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and which religion is it that has the cute white boys in their white buttoned shirts and black ties who ride their bikes throughout neighborhoods preaching to folks?



eek They're a religious group? lol I thought they were just some private school kids that didn't ride the bus to school. Duh, on my part.


I thought they were Jehovah's Witnesses.
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Reply #70 posted 05/16/07 4:55pm

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SCNDLS said:

NDRU said:

I found in Salt lake City that Mormons had the best tactic for conversion. They peppered the Tabernacle area (a tourist spot) with cute young blonde girls in summer dresses who would initiate conversation with you, eventually offering to tell you more about the Book and how you could get a free copy.


Those mormons are soooo sexual, what's up with THAT??? And what's the damn deal with the magic underwear. I'm sorry, but if Mike Huckabee wants to be president he's gon' have to explain the mystical drawers to me. . .


lol magic underwear, you're right I forgot about that!

the other weird thing is seeing so many young young women with multiple kids around S.L.C. They marry & breed early.
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Reply #71 posted 05/16/07 4:59pm

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You know i really think that people are rude on what they have been saying about jehovahs witnesses,most of my family are witnesses and are lovely people,you cant judge so harshly on what you dont really know and i know they are good people trying to do whats right.


I haven't seen anyone on this thread say that JWs are not nice people. I've known quite a few and don't have any negative opinions of them personally.

In my own personal experience, I was really close to a lady that I met at work and her four kids who eventually started calling me Aunt. The lady suffers from a terminal disease and I would frequently help her out financially because she was such a great person and mother. I got so close to the family that her kids actually requested that I be their guardian when she passed. Which I would have been honored to do.

They would witness to me, but were never pushy, casually leaving pamphlets behind when they came to my house. They'd invite me to Kingdom Hall, which I'd been to before, but I declined. After a few years of friendship and constant communication, they stopped calling, returning my calls, moved, and I haven't heard from them in almost a year, I'm sad to say.

I say all this to say, that JWs will tolerate and interact with non-Witnesses but if they feel you are not going to join they will cut ties and that's just how it is.

The fact that Prince has so many people around him that are not JWs and that they frequently have spiritual discussions shows me that he IS very tolerant of others views and is probably not following JW to the letter. But isn't that what most people do? Cherrypick the tenets or teachings of a religion that work for them and ignore the BS that doesn't. Like Catholics who are on the pill or eat meat on Friday or don't go to confession, etc.
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Reply #72 posted 05/16/07 5:05pm

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NDRU said:

SCNDLS said:



Those mormons are soooo sexual, what's up with THAT??? And what's the damn deal with the magic underwear. I'm sorry, but if Mike Huckabee wants to be president he's gon' have to explain the mystical drawers to me. . .


lol magic underwear, you're right I forgot about that!

the other weird thing is seeing so many young young women with multiple kids around S.L.C. They marry & breed early.


They are definitely pro-life and pro-multiple wives. Another thing, are women allowed to have more than one husband??? On that show Big Love, the guy has three wives. I wouldn't mind having three husbands. lol I'd rather have 3 working men bringing home the bacon than be a dude with THREE housewives. Scary! But I'm sure that only applies to men. Damn double standards.
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Reply #73 posted 05/16/07 5:14pm

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sosgemini said:

and which religion is it that has the cute white boys in their white buttoned shirts and black ties who ride their bikes throughout neighborhoods preaching to folks?

That's the mormon's. I've seen plenty throughout the years and many of them are cute. lol
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #74 posted 05/16/07 5:50pm

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I was excited for Mavis' new album, but she sang a tune from it on one of the talk shows. It was a big let-down. I'll have to peep some other songs from the CD on Amazon and give it another chance. I really like Ry Cooder.
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Reply #75 posted 05/16/07 6:13pm

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purplecam said:

sosgemini said:

and which religion is it that has the cute white boys in their white buttoned shirts and black ties who ride their bikes throughout neighborhoods preaching to folks?

That's the mormon's. I've seen plenty throughout the years and many of them are cute. lol



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Reply #76 posted 05/16/07 7:14pm

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sosgemini said:

purplecam said:


That's the mormon's. I've seen plenty throughout the years and many of them are cute. lol



drool

Man I'm so with you on that! highfive drool drool
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Reply #77 posted 05/16/07 8:02pm

live4lust

man, this thread is way off-track.
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Reply #78 posted 05/16/07 8:14pm

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Martinelli said:

Humo magazine, may 18, Belgium.

interview excerpt:

...
Prince just kept on going, hours on end, all through the night.
By the time we left the studio it would already be dawn. When i asked
him if he ever slept, he said: 'Mavis, sleeping is a complete waste of time'.
Then I replied: 'Well then with your permission I'm goig to waste at least
eight hours of my time.'


HUMO: When was the last time you saw Prince?
recently at the Superbowl. And before that, in Las Vegas.
If i'm not mistaken it was the 19th of January. He owns a
club and a restaurant, so he invited Yvonne and I. We stayed a
couple of nights. We had a good dinner and saw a brilliant performance
in his beautiful club. Yeah man, Prince is painting Las Vegas purple.


HUMO: Do you think you're ever gonna collaborate again?
(shakes her head) Whenever he's playing in Chicago I sing a few
songs with him. But, cut a record together? I don't think so. He's
a Jehovah's witness now. That makes things difficult. Because I am not
a Jehovah's witness he's not even supposed to hang out with me. They are their
own people. Although, I really wonder if his faith still means that much to him.
Recently, in Vegas, he seemed very much like the old Prince.



Now you know she is going to catch hell for that last statement...LOL Prince is not one to be happy when people in his circle say "non authorized" statements about him.... lol I would not want him to totally abandon his faith and bust out ala "dirty mind" style. I think his religion has grounded him, and matured him into the wonderful gentleman he is now. It is his stabilzing force, and I am glad to see the conviction and passion he has for it. But I can't help wishing just a little of the old spark could come out more as I have been noticing it is lately. There is nothing wrong with that unless it is distasteful or dirty. And I don't think he ever would make it so. He has too much class to do that, and there is nothing better than a man with class.... cool
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Reply #79 posted 05/16/07 8:27pm

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The 'true' teachings of the bible are a case of censorship.

The new tastement is a result of smallminded, dogmatic people assembling a book.
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Reply #80 posted 05/16/07 8:32pm

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The 'true' teachings of the bible are a case of censorship.

The new tastement is a result of smallminded, dogmatic people assembling a book.



here is a case of NOT HEART READY wink
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Reply #81 posted 05/16/07 8:44pm

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that doesnt hold true either though cause wendy and lisa were in the studio with prince too. lol


huh?
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Reply #82 posted 05/16/07 9:07pm

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LisasBrush said:

sosgemini said:

that doesnt hold true either though cause wendy and lisa were in the studio with prince too. lol


huh?



they worked together on some Nikka Costa tracks...but they never saw the light of day.
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Reply #83 posted 05/16/07 9:17pm

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sillyme said:

Riverpoet31 said:

The 'true' teachings of the bible are a case of censorship.

The new tastement is a result of smallminded, dogmatic people assembling a book.



here is a case of NOT HEART READY wink



Or simply 'here is a case of someone with opposing views on the bible to my own, so the whole idea of 'heart ready' is meaningless in this context'. lol

With that phrase you've made the act of making a different choice to your own sound like a failing or lack of something.

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Reply #84 posted 05/16/07 9:48pm

LisasBrush

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they worked together on some Nikka Costa tracks...but they never saw the light of day.

omg! didn't know that!
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Reply #85 posted 05/16/07 10:48pm

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Mavis was the musical guest on Letterman tonight. She brought Cooder and her 4 back up singers (all male) and Paul Schaffer and the band supplied the rest.

She did a smoldering bluesy gospel number about Mississippi, Dr. King and integration. She was melody cool.....
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Reply #86 posted 05/16/07 10:57pm

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Ifsixwuz9 said:

sosgemini said:

and which religion is it that has the cute white boys in their white buttoned shirts and black ties who ride their bikes throughout neighborhoods preaching to folks?



eek They're a religious group? lol I thought they were just some private school kids that didn't ride the bus to school. Duh, on my part.


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Reply #87 posted 05/17/07 10:49am

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SCNDLS said:

NDRU said:



lol magic underwear, you're right I forgot about that!

the other weird thing is seeing so many young young women with multiple kids around S.L.C. They marry & breed early.


They are definitely pro-life and pro-multiple wives. Another thing, are women allowed to have more than one husband??? On that show Big Love, the guy has three wives. I wouldn't mind having three husbands. lol I'd rather have 3 working men bringing home the bacon than be a dude with THREE housewives. Scary! But I'm sure that only applies to men. Damn double standards.


Big love made it look horrible. The women set his schedule, so he was like a performing monkey--do her tuesday, do her wednesday. lol

Plus he had to support them and their mortgages!

It was great for that reason. many guys think multiple wives would be great, but the reality would be very different than the fantasy.
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Reply #88 posted 05/17/07 10:58am

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NDRU said:

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They are definitely pro-life and pro-multiple wives. Another thing, are women allowed to have more than one husband??? On that show Big Love, the guy has three wives. I wouldn't mind having three husbands. lol I'd rather have 3 working men bringing home the bacon than be a dude with THREE housewives. Scary! But I'm sure that only applies to men. Damn double standards.


Big love made it look horrible. The women set his schedule, so he was like a performing monkey--do her tuesday, do her wednesday. lol

Plus he had to support them and their mortgages!

It was great for that reason. many guys think multiple wives would be great, but the reality would be very different than the fantasy.


I agree, he looks like he's about to have a nervous breakdown on that show. And all the wives are crazy mostly with jealousy over each other. That's too many hens in the hen house so it's bound to be some drama. That's why my idea sounds better one wife for every 3 guys. 3 incomes, in one household, the bitching/complaining is spread out among 3 dudes, and the woman can put the men on her rotation. Maybe I should start my own religion??? hmmm hmm nod lol
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Reply #89 posted 05/17/07 11:11am

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SCNDLS said:

NDRU said:



Big love made it look horrible. The women set his schedule, so he was like a performing monkey--do her tuesday, do her wednesday. lol

Plus he had to support them and their mortgages!

It was great for that reason. many guys think multiple wives would be great, but the reality would be very different than the fantasy.


I agree, he looks like he's about to have a nervous breakdown on that show. And all the wives are crazy mostly with jealousy over each other. That's too many hens in the hen house so it's bound to be some drama. That's why my idea sounds better one wife for every 3 guys. 3 incomes, in one household, the bitching/complaining is spread out among 3 dudes, and the woman can put the men on her rotation. Maybe I should start my own religion??? hmmm hmm nod lol


That's where the real money is!

But I wouldn't be a part of it. lol
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