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Thats a lot of words. www.goldiesparade.co.uk - 3121 | |
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Not terribly edifying...
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"Near bankrupt in the mid-Nineties and forced to sell off a raft of assets, a decade later Prince was again the highest grossing musical act in the United States, a turnaround largely based on getting his publishing rights back. That meant he was able to draw on a body of work that includes Nothing Compares 2 U and Manic Monday, which right now, somewhere in the world, today as every day, are getting radio play."
I've never heard this. This is a questionable source. Nothing about Prince's behavior has ever suggested that he was "near bankrupt." Does this author have facts to prove this? Unless Prince writes an AUTObiography - and I hope he doesn't, I am straight on folks speculating about his life. He should continue to let the music speak for him. When did Prince lose his publishing rights? Did I miss something? He was fighting over ownership of his mastertapes as I recall it. Can someone clarify this? perfection is a fallacy of the imagination... | |
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bellanoche said: "Near bankrupt in the mid-Nineties and forced to sell off a raft of assets, a decade later Prince was again the highest grossing musical act in the United States, a turnaround largely based on getting his publishing rights back. That meant he was able to draw on a body of work that includes Nothing Compares 2 U and Manic Monday, which right now, somewhere in the world, today as every day, are getting radio play."
I've never heard this. This is a questionable source. Nothing about Prince's behavior has ever suggested that he was "near bankrupt." Does this author have facts to prove this? Unless Prince writes an AUTObiography - and I hope he doesn't, I am straight on folks speculating about his life. He should continue to let the music speak for him. Prince did indeed almost take himself to the cleaners with the Lovesexy tour - it was his most lavish and expensive tour production to date. Prince wanted to finish the tour early to concentrate on the Batman tracks (which as we now know turned into a fully-fledged album) but was persuaded to undertake a short tour of Japan. These dates proved pivotal in saving Prince's ass at that time, because it recouped monies that were being lost not only from the previous legs of the tour, but also from (alledgedly) his accountant at that time embezzling a large amount from him (this is one of the reasons why the 1988 documentary got shelved). All these things came together for Prince to put together a 'hits' show in the form of the Nude tour - which in Europe became the biggest tour of his career, with a record 18-date stint in London alone. This, coupled with the success of the Batman film/soundtrack tie-in was a Godsend. However, Prince soon got back to his old ways within a matter of a few years with making innumerable lavish videos, and creating a stage set for The Ultimate Live Experience tour that only got used a few times due to proving to bulky (and therefore far too cost-prohibitive) to ship around the world. It was left in storage in London after the London dates and a stripped-down version was taken out on the road for the remainder of the tour. These are just a few examples. But from what I've seen the past few years, something tells me he's learnt from these mistakes and errors of judgement and now watches over his financial matters a little more cloesly. | |
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Damn is this a thesis or something? If so, where are the Cliff Notes...
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Oh no an essay! If it wasn't for the gutter ; my mind wouldn't have a home.
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BananaCologne said: bellanoche said: I've never heard this. This is a questionable source. Nothing about Prince's behavior has ever suggested that he was "near bankrupt." Does this author have facts to prove this? Unless Prince writes an AUTObiography - and I hope he doesn't, I am straight on folks speculating about his life. He should continue to let the music speak for him. Prince did indeed almost take himself to the cleaners with the Lovesexy tour - it was his most lavish and expensive tour production to date. Prince wanted to finish the tour early to concentrate on the Batman tracks (which as we now know turned into a fully-fledged album) but was persuaded to undertake a short tour of Japan. These dates proved pivotal in saving Prince's ass at that time, because it recouped monies that were being lost not only from the previous legs of the tour, but also from (alledgedly) his accountant at that time embezzling a large amount from him (this is one of the reasons why the 1988 documentary got shelved). All these things came together for Prince to put together a 'hits' show in the form of the Nude tour - which in Europe became the biggest tour of his career, with a record 18-date stint in London alone. This, coupled with the success of the Batman film/soundtrack tie-in was a Godsend. However, Prince soon got back to his old ways within a matter of a few years with making innumerable lavish videos, and creating a stage set for The Ultimate Live Experience tour that only got used a few times due to proving to bulky (and therefore far too cost-prohibitive) to ship around the world. It was left in storage in London after the London dates and a stripped-down version was taken out on the road for the remainder of the tour. These are just a few examples. But from what I've seen the past few years, something tells me he's learnt from these mistakes and errors of judgement and now watches over his financial matters a little more cloesly. Thanks for the cliffnotes. Tupac "Makaveli" Shakur (RIP 1971-1996) & Michael Jackson (RIP 1958-2009)
2 men that had their lives taken away the moment they were speaking out AND rebelling against the dark side of the music industry once too often. | |
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This was well-written.
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EROTICCITYNPG said: http://www.sundayherald.com/life/people/display.var.1217739.0.0.php
The other impressive thing about the Miami Super Bowl appearance was that when Prince started out 30 years ago, his whole career looked like a "wardrobe malfunction". This, remember, was the man who appeared in grainy black and white on an album cover wearing nothing but a trenchcoat, bandanna, black panties and a scowl. That was the aptly named Dirty Mind and though it took a bit of working out, you could see that he was posed up against naked bedsprings. Prince: A Thief In The Temple by Brian Morton is published next month by Canongate, £10.99 I think this part is too funny. I also agree this was well written (except that he's refered to as married- not separated or soon to be divorced) I'll buy this book I'm sure. I don't get people who have no interest in reading books about Prince. It's exactly what we do here all the time- READ stuff about Prince. At least most legit books have some research put into them- unlike some of the things that get posted around here every day. Ask where they're going, they'll tell U – "Nowhere"
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Hmmmm.. "Dowload, a future for the rice lady
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[i]Well this book seems to positive....The last book Possessed.The Rise and Fall of Prince by Alex Hahn was to me one-sided.When does it come out? Next month? jmzhndx | |
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Jmihndx said: [i]Well this book seems to positive....The last book Possessed.The Rise and Fall of Prince by Alex Hahn was to me one-sided.When does it come out? Next month?
In general, I would tend to agree with you. It says next month-March. There was a thread about this book coming out already I believe. Ask where they're going, they'll tell U – "Nowhere"
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Alasseon said: This was well-written.
The author is actually a fan. Don't be in a hurry to bury the guy without having read his book. Prince is so big, we'll only understand his legacy long after he's gone. Our grandchildren will be debating who he was and what impact he had on music. As for us? We can say that we were there when the sun shone a little brighter. The Kid inspired me to learn of the power of music. For that and for endless hours of enjoying his work, I'm eternally grateful. Eternally grateful here too, I agree with everything you said. I gathered from reading the exerpt that this looks to be a well written book...hopefully well researched also. "After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill...the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill...you stay in wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes." | |
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Alasseon said: This was well-written.
The author is actually a fan. Don't be in a hurry to bury the guy without having read his book. Prince is so big, we'll only understand his legacy long after he's gone. Our grandchildren will be debating who he was and what impact he had on music. As for us? We can say that we were there when the sun shone a little brighter. The Kid inspired me to learn of the power of music. For that and for endless hours of enjoying his work, I'm eternally grateful. Absolutely, (and he was born in Paisley too! God help me if i'm ever on trial and 'they' are my jury. I dread to think.... | |
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I won't lie... I'll probably buy it. | |
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Is that the book above or just an excerpt?
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EROTICCITYNPG said: http://www.sundayherald.com/life/people/display.var.1217739.0.0.php
told Oprah that the baby was fine and announced some weeks after the child's funeral that he was "enjoying fatherhood". All of this might have been inept and a bit strange... How rude. Everybody knows one of the 5 stages of mourning is denial. We aren't supposed to dictate how long each stage last for a person. And wow, way to much MJ stuff. Definitely no buying/reading this. The only way I would read a Prince bio is if the word "allegedly" isn't in it. So I guess it'd have to be an autobiography. [Edited 2/25/07 13:17pm] | |
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Interesting perspective. The TRUTH.......only exist in 1 form.
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violectrica said: EROTICCITYNPG said: http://www.sundayherald.com/life/people/display.var.1217739.0.0.php
told Oprah that the baby was fine and announced some weeks after the child's funeral that he was "enjoying fatherhood". All of this might have been inept and a bit strange... How rude. Everybody knows one of the 5 stages of mourning is denial. We aren't supposed to dictate how long each stage last for a person. And wow, way to much MJ stuff. Definitely no buying/reading this. The only way I would read a Prince bio is if the word "allegedly" isn't in it. So I guess it'd have to be an autobiography. [Edited 2/25/07 13:17pm] True. At least he didn't do a Britney and shave all his hair off! http://www.myspace.com/savage1999uk
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mj comparisons aside this may be a good introduction to non prince fans, but its nothing I need to run out and buy | |
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BananaCologne said: bellanoche said: I've never heard this. This is a questionable source. Nothing about Prince's behavior has ever suggested that he was "near bankrupt." Does this author have facts to prove this? Unless Prince writes an AUTObiography - and I hope he doesn't, I am straight on folks speculating about his life. He should continue to let the music speak for him. Prince did indeed almost take himself to the cleaners with the Lovesexy tour - it was his most lavish and expensive tour production to date. Prince wanted to finish the tour early to concentrate on the Batman tracks (which as we now know turned into a fully-fledged album) but was persuaded to undertake a short tour of Japan. These dates proved pivotal in saving Prince's ass at that time, because it recouped monies that were being lost not only from the previous legs of the tour, but also from (alledgedly) his accountant at that time embezzling a large amount from him (this is one of the reasons why the 1988 documentary got shelved). All these things came together for Prince to put together a 'hits' show in the form of the Nude tour - which in Europe became the biggest tour of his career, with a record 18-date stint in London alone. This, coupled with the success of the Batman film/soundtrack tie-in was a Godsend. However, Prince soon got back to his old ways within a matter of a few years with making innumerable lavish videos, and creating a stage set for The Ultimate Live Experience tour that only got used a few times due to proving to bulky (and therefore far too cost-prohibitive) to ship around the world. It was left in storage in London after the London dates and a stripped-down version was taken out on the road for the remainder of the tour. These are just a few examples. But from what I've seen the past few years, something tells me he's learnt from these mistakes and errors of judgement and now watches over his financial matters a little more cloesly. ----- Thanks for answering this. It seems a little unfair for the writer of the article to state that P caused the near bankrupcy if some of it was due to his accountant stealing money. Was this the Moultrie Accounting agency that is thanked on the back of a lot of his records. | |
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Umm yeah, I'm gonna pass on this. This excerpt seem a lot like this book is rehash of what's already been written especially in terms of his early life and so on-- some of which I have read varying accounts over the years of the circumstances under which the comments came from.
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Savage said: Is that the book above or just an excerpt?
I'll be buying it as well http://www.waterstones.co...mage1.y=10 I'm trying to figure out the same thing...I thought it was an article about the book, but there is no byline. Ask where they're going, they'll tell U – "Nowhere"
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violectrica said: EROTICCITYNPG said: http://www.sundayherald.com/life/people/display.var.1217739.0.0.php
told Oprah that the baby was fine and announced some weeks after the child's funeral that he was "enjoying fatherhood". All of this might have been inept and a bit strange... How rude. Everybody knows one of the 5 stages of mourning is denial. We aren't supposed to dictate how long each stage last for a person. [Edited 2/25/07 13:17pm] That part could've been taken right out of Hahn's book (Possessed)- it's not clear to me that the above is an excerpt or just an article about this new book (it does ring of possible dust cover write-up though). Obviously, any book about Prince is going to mention the tragedy with the baby. It happened and he did go on Oprah a couple of weeks later and say things were fine. I agree with what Banana C said earlier- we have no idea yet how good- or bad- this book might be. I really don't understand Prince fans tendency to get so riled up about books. Tabloids or books put out by tabloids- yes they are annoying And yes, I'm a book worm [Edited 2/25/07 16:38pm] Ask where they're going, they'll tell U – "Nowhere"
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BananaCologne said: bellanoche said: I've never heard this. This is a questionable source. Nothing about Prince's behavior has ever suggested that he was "near bankrupt." Does this author have facts to prove this? Unless Prince writes an AUTObiography - and I hope he doesn't, I am straight on folks speculating about his life. He should continue to let the music speak for him. Prince did indeed almost take himself to the cleaners with the Lovesexy tour - it was his most lavish and expensive tour production to date. Prince wanted to finish the tour early to concentrate on the Batman tracks (which as we now know turned into a fully-fledged album) but was persuaded to undertake a short tour of Japan. These dates proved pivotal in saving Prince's ass at that time, because it recouped monies that were being lost not only from the previous legs of the tour, but also from (alledgedly) his accountant at that time embezzling a large amount from him (this is one of the reasons why the 1988 documentary got shelved). All these things came together for Prince to put together a 'hits' show in the form of the Nude tour - which in Europe became the biggest tour of his career, with a record 18-date stint in London alone. This, coupled with the success of the Batman film/soundtrack tie-in was a Godsend. However, Prince soon got back to his old ways within a matter of a few years with making innumerable lavish videos, and creating a stage set for The Ultimate Live Experience tour that only got used a few times due to proving to bulky (and therefore far too cost-prohibitive) to ship around the world. It was left in storage in London after the London dates and a stripped-down version was taken out on the road for the remainder of the tour. These are just a few examples. But from what I've seen the past few years, something tells me he's learnt from these mistakes and errors of judgement and now watches over his financial matters a little more cloesly. Thanks for the info. I guess I am just not all in his biz like that, because I hadn't heard of any of this and I've been a fan since the beginning. What is funny is that the time you refer to is in the late 1980s, not the mid 1990s. This author said the mid 1990s. Well, something tells me that Prince will never be broke. perfection is a fallacy of the imagination... | |
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Seems to be well writen. At least the person is a fan , not an ass-kisser, and is reasonably aware of alot of music over a good period of time. It all comes down to the writers agenda. That Possessed book's writer did, which made it pretty useless yet entertaining. | |
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bellanoche said: Thanks for the info. I guess I am just not all in his biz like that, because I hadn't heard of any of this and I've been a fan since the beginning. What is funny is that the time you refer to is in the late 1980s, not the mid 1990s. This author said the mid 1990s. Well, something tells me that Prince will never be broke.
Yeah, but what you have to realise is that the Lovesexy tour was the beginning of his dwindling finances (the tour ended in 1989) and the success of both the Batman OST and the Nude tour on the back of that put him firmly back in the black again. The real point here is that he obviously felt on a safe enough footing to start being very liberal with his money again, and by 1995/96 he was on pretty rocky ground. 1988 was where things started to go wrong and Prince's ship started sailing in stormier waters as it were. But as I also mentioned previously, I think those times have long gone now and he's learnt from wasting money on his follies. Well, one would like to think so anyway. | |
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