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Reply #30 posted 11/13/06 12:01pm

RodeoSchro

LOL, I think you're just trying to promote this thread: http://www.prince.org/msg/15/207908

But you know what? There is some truth to what you say. A lot of "3121" is too loud. And crackles, which is very annoying.
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Reply #31 posted 11/13/06 12:06pm

iconsweat

More mike1 shock posting...film at 11
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Reply #32 posted 11/13/06 12:31pm

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iconsweat said:

More mike1 shock posting...film at 11


[Be nice snip - luv4u]

I am not shock posting!

I LIKE THE MUSIC ON THIS ALBUM; THAT'S WHY I'M BOTHERED ABOUT THE SOUND QUALITY!
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Reply #33 posted 11/13/06 12:39pm

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Reply #34 posted 11/13/06 12:40pm

mikek1

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The good thing is you don't keep banging on about the same thing endlessly.

Oh wait you do, you've already covered your distain for the sound quality of Prince's albums here: http://www.prince.org/msg/7/207822

Does this mean you are going to start a thread about every Prince album with the same basic concept? Ever a chance to bash Prince, eh? Stop beating a dead horse.

Besides, I just don't get where you say these albums are 'unlistenable'. That's just crazy talk. Sounds fine on a decent volume on my hi-fi and on my headphones and I'm sure there are millions like me who don't even notice these so called distortions you maintain you can hear apparently at any volume. Sorry that we're enjoying the music and you're not, but there it is.


Actually these albums sound very bad on a good hi fi; e.g black sweat(good song though).

Bash Prince?
Prince is MY FAV ARTIST EVER! I LIKE THE MUSIC ON THIS ALBUM! I'm only bothered about albums which actually have great music otherwise why would i care about the sound?

I LOVE MUSICOLOGY as well but the mastering IS LETTING PRINCE'S MUSICIANSHIP AND ART DOWN!
Us fans should be on the same page; the big record companies and ignorant bastards are ruining things.

Did you notice the new tracks on CB sound less loud than TGE even though they were recorded later on? That's becuase they weren't pushed by a large record company who made someone master them as loud as possible.

Listen to Come; the mastering and mixing are excellent compared to 3121 and if you want it louder just turn it up without any distortion.
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Reply #35 posted 11/13/06 12:46pm

iconsweat

mikek1 said:

iconsweat said:

More mike1 shock posting...film at 11


[Be nice snip - luv4u]

I am not shock posting!

I LIKE THE MUSIC ON THIS ALBUM; THAT'S WHY I'M BOTHERED ABOUT THE SOUND QUALITY!


Well lets say you have a habit of shock "titles of threads" then. You know this is true. Thjat is not needed and seems an attention seeking trick to get people to read your threads.
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Reply #36 posted 11/13/06 12:51pm

mikek1

iconsweat said:

mikek1 said:



[Be nice snip - luv4u]

I am not shock posting!

I LIKE THE MUSIC ON THIS ALBUM; THAT'S WHY I'M BOTHERED ABOUT THE SOUND QUALITY!


Well lets say you have a habit of shock "titles of threads" then. You know this is true. Thjat is not needed and seems an attention seeking trick to get people to read your threads.


Actually i'm a grown man, therfore i do not find any thread i've ever made 'shocking'.

I am just honestly expressing my feelings which i shouldn't receive crticism for.

I have seen many stupid threads on here(does prince like anal) and those people didn't receive any criticism; i have a valid point which is correct becuase everybody can check themselves using technology and see the errors.
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Reply #37 posted 11/13/06 1:00pm

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mikek1 said:

metalorange said:

The good thing is you don't keep banging on about the same thing endlessly.

Oh wait you do, you've already covered your distain for the sound quality of Prince's albums here: http://www.prince.org/msg/7/207822

Does this mean you are going to start a thread about every Prince album with the same basic concept? Ever a chance to bash Prince, eh? Stop beating a dead horse.

Besides, I just don't get where you say these albums are 'unlistenable'. That's just crazy talk. Sounds fine on a decent volume on my hi-fi and on my headphones and I'm sure there are millions like me who don't even notice these so called distortions you maintain you can hear apparently at any volume. Sorry that we're enjoying the music and you're not, but there it is.


Actually these albums sound very bad on a good hi fi; e.g black sweat(good song though).

Bash Prince?
Prince is MY FAV ARTIST EVER! I LIKE THE MUSIC ON THIS ALBUM! I'm only bothered about albums which actually have great music otherwise why would i care about the sound?

I LOVE MUSICOLOGY as well but the mastering IS LETTING PRINCE'S MUSICIANSHIP AND ART DOWN!
Us fans should be on the same page; the big record companies and ignorant bastards are ruining things.

Did you notice the new tracks on CB sound less loud than TGE even though they were recorded later on? That's becuase they weren't pushed by a large record company who made someone master them as loud as possible.

Listen to Come; the mastering and mixing are excellent compared to 3121 and if you want it louder just turn it up without any distortion.


Fine. That's your opinion, you can hear distortions on your equipment that I honestly do not hear with my ears at the volumes I need to enjoy the music on my equipment. But one thing, this should be a general point that effects many artists and albums according to you, it is not just Prince's albums alone that have this problem, but you make it sound like just Prince messing up again or something.
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Reply #38 posted 11/13/06 1:05pm

mikek1

metalorange said:

mikek1 said:



Actually these albums sound very bad on a good hi fi; e.g black sweat(good song though).

Bash Prince?
Prince is MY FAV ARTIST EVER! I LIKE THE MUSIC ON THIS ALBUM! I'm only bothered about albums which actually have great music otherwise why would i care about the sound?

I LOVE MUSICOLOGY as well but the mastering IS LETTING PRINCE'S MUSICIANSHIP AND ART DOWN!
Us fans should be on the same page; the big record companies and ignorant bastards are ruining things.

Did you notice the new tracks on CB sound less loud than TGE even though they were recorded later on? That's becuase they weren't pushed by a large record company who made someone master them as loud as possible.

Listen to Come; the mastering and mixing are excellent compared to 3121 and if you want it louder just turn it up without any distortion.


Fine. That's your opinion, you can hear distortions on your equipment that I honestly do not hear with my ears at the volumes I need to enjoy the music on my equipment. But one thing, this should be a general point that effects many artists and albums according to you, it is not just Prince's albums alone that have this problem, but you make it sound like just Prince messing up again or something.
[Edited 11/13/06 13:00pm]


no I JUST CARE ABOUT PRINCE'S MUSIC MORE THAN ANY OTHER ARTIST, O.K!

For e.g i couldn't give a shit how madonna's work is mastered
lol

It is a general point but i don't care about the garbage being released in today's charts apart from a couple of exceptions who just happen to have terrible sounding but EXCELLENTLY COMPOSED music(prince, the chili peppers, canibus).
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Reply #39 posted 11/13/06 1:14pm

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I don't quite get why you think Prince doesn't have any say in how his music is mastered, though. Maybe he doesn't do it himself, but he must approve of it.

Also, I don't feel like 3121 or Musicology fall into the same mastering traps most new music does. In fact, I feel the opposite, like they could use a bit more sparkle (Incense & Candles excepted) & oomph; Something The Gold Experience has (too much of it, to a few people)
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Reply #40 posted 11/13/06 1:16pm

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Though I started a thread similar to this about A Million Days & the other rock tunes (Musicology & ICP&P sound great to me) on Musicology being noisy & distorted. It's something I've noticed since So Far, So Pleased
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Reply #41 posted 11/13/06 1:22pm

iconsweat

Yeah.."3121 is totally unlistenable" rolleyes
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Reply #42 posted 11/13/06 1:27pm

HoneymoonXpres
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lol@ the idiots who thought mike1 was talking about the songs....this just proves you failed reading comprehension lol
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Reply #43 posted 11/13/06 1:53pm

vinaysfunk

Mikek1, I felt bad last time I posted a response to your thread on the technical flaws of TGE, But seriously do you feel there is a group of people on this site that are feeling your pain and they just love responding to your observations that certain aspects of the recording process is poor? Seriously as a newbie here I get the obvious impression that people don't appreciate what you have to say. Am I way off? I don't find the posts shocking I find them redundant,am I missing something?
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Reply #44 posted 11/13/06 6:55pm

origmnd

He should release a remix of the whole CD
like the versace mixes.
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Reply #45 posted 11/13/06 7:37pm

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Serena said:

I wish someone would remaster you to correct the problem with the same track repeating over and over and over again. lol


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Reply #46 posted 11/13/06 10:44pm

crazeh

just about every prince album has bad sound quality what is up with that?
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Reply #47 posted 11/14/06 8:09am

thepope2the9s

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mikek1 said:

This album sound horrible.It's compressed and distorted; far too loud.
It literally gives me an headache.

For you is better sounding than this and that is the truth.

It's either universal's fault or the actual guy who mastered it but someone needs to be accountable.

If i ever interviewed Prince i would bring this up first.



i listened 2 it loud/low/and with headphones on ....
sounds okay to me..maybe sumthin' is wrong wit' your EARS fool.....
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Reply #48 posted 11/14/06 8:11am

mikek1

thepope2the9s said:

mikek1 said:

This album sound horrible.It's compressed and distorted; far too loud.
It literally gives me an headache.

For you is better sounding than this and that is the truth.

It's either universal's fault or the actual guy who mastered it but someone needs to be accountable.

If i ever interviewed Prince i would bring this up first.



i listened 2 it loud/low/and with headphones on ....
sounds okay to me..maybe sumthin' is wrong wit' your EARS fool.....


no it has clipping.. UNDENIABLE FACT!
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Reply #49 posted 11/14/06 8:13am

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luv4u said:

Sounds fine to me smile


same here smile
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Reply #50 posted 11/14/06 8:31am

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HoneymoonXpress said:

lol@ the idiots who thought mike1 was talking about the songs....this just proves you failed reading comprehension lol

whofarted Why? I believe I was one of the only ones who said I thought he was talking about the songs themselves when I read the thread title. What does that have to do with "reading comprehension"? (which btw seems to be a "thing" of yours, because you just used the same line on two different people on another thread. neutral )

That thread title can have more than one meaning obviously.
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Reply #51 posted 11/14/06 8:37am

mikek1

minneapolisgenius said:

HoneymoonXpress said:

lol@ the idiots who thought mike1 was talking about the songs....this just proves you failed reading comprehension lol

whofarted Why? I believe I was one of the only ones who said I thought he was talking about the songs themselves when I read the thread title. What does that have to do with "reading comprehension"? (which btw seems to be a "thing" of yours, because you just used the same line on two different people on another thread. neutral )

That thread title can have more than one meaning obviously.


The songs are good from start to finish.

I wish eddie kramar would master prince albums; then they would sound great.
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Reply #52 posted 11/14/06 2:45pm

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Try importing it to iTunes and use the equalizer. It might help a little bit.
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Reply #53 posted 11/14/06 6:42pm

MrHappyRave4

Man, quit hay'in on the album. biggrin eek biggrin eek biggrin
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Reply #54 posted 11/14/06 6:57pm

toddband45

What? I listened to it literally 27/7 when I 1st got it. It was my thang in the music world. Now, I listened to it now and then. But, I still love it. The album is good overall. I don't get how you can't at least listen to it.
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Reply #55 posted 11/14/06 7:03pm

playme3121

i love this album, almost as good as THe GOLD experience.

favorites are

3121,Black Sweat,Incense and Candles,Fury,The Word,Get on the Boat, i almost love every track if it wasnt for "Satisfied".

>.and if ur to lazy to turn the volume down on certain albums, then u dont even deserve to have it.
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Reply #56 posted 11/15/06 1:37am

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mikek1 said:

minneapolisgenius said:


whofarted Why? I believe I was one of the only ones who said I thought he was talking about the songs themselves when I read the thread title. What does that have to do with "reading comprehension"? (which btw seems to be a "thing" of yours, because you just used the same line on two different people on another thread. neutral )

That thread title can have more than one meaning obviously.


The songs are good from start to finish.

I wish eddie kramar would master prince albums; then they would sound great.


It's Eddie Kramer, not Kramar.
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Reply #57 posted 11/15/06 5:32am

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funkaholic1972 said:

mikek1 said:



The songs are good from start to finish.

I wish eddie kramar would master prince albums; then they would sound great.


It's Eddie Kramer, not Kramar.

I was going to correct him, but I didn't want to be TOO anal. lol
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Reply #58 posted 11/15/06 5:45am

AsylumUtopia

You could always remaster them yourself. It's not difficult.
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Reply #59 posted 11/15/06 6:55am

mikek1

AsylumUtopia said:

You could always remaster them yourself. It's not difficult.


please explain.
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