SoulAlive said:

A scream doesn't mean anything bad.

Prince didn't write the violent scene in PR; he even commented on it when asked and said' it wasn't meant to offend anyone'.

You could look into alot of blues artist lyrics and pick up negative images if you wanted to.

Re artistic license: numerous artists have written from the pov of murderers and/or rapists. Nick Cave has almost made a career out of it, including an album called "Murder Ballads." Another Aussie band called Hunters and Collectors have an amazing song like that called "Throw your arms around me" (Crowded House covered it).
Each of these was a clear case of roleplay. Did anyone doubt that Sister, Jack U Off or Bob George were provocative stories?

in the heat of passion lovers say things they would not normally say...I think this is what prince is saying in his songs...

mikek1 said:

Go ahead and get off the personal shit. Nobody told u to post.

BorisFishpaw said:

Wow! I never knew that
Cool

ufoclub said:

this made me think of one kid taddling on another and getting it all wrong

Militant said:

Nor do I.

Because... Prince can do whatever he wants!

Prince is freaky and I like it!
Meow

mikek1 said:

Clearly, I wasn't reading too much into anything. I had already said that P could have just as well been pleasuring Jill. Cats need to read a complete post before trying to comment.

blackguitaristz said:

I agree that it was written from and for a female perspective but don't agree with the anal part. When I first heard the song it reminded me of Prince doing The Time background vox as he did with The Time debut album. He had himself sounding like a self female chorus. I realy think it is from a woman's perpsective (dominatrix style or woman in foreceful control such as Nasty Girls "I need 7 inches more..get it up!" content). Extraloveable is female perspective just as Get It Up was as well as The Stick. He had Morris and them sing those songs from female perspective though. Ive always felt weird listening to Get It Up from them going "wtf?"-it's like how he did 17 Days but it seems more "right" when Prince flips the script by singing it himself.

Which also leads to his female perpsective songs. He does both: he gets to write from the forceful sexual woman, the woman done wrong, as well as the spurned hurt lover. Such as How Come You Dont Call Me. Prince gets to have it both ways (pun intended). His androgyny isn't/wasn't just in his look.

violent edit: After reading B Guittarist post I do now see an undercurring theme of sex/violence form that 1999 era. Wonder what he was going through or maybe it was just high art s&m-funk (not saying that rape is form of s&m or normal secual pleasure and all that entails).
[Edited 11/7/06 14:03pm]

wasitgood4u said:

He is pretending to be a newbie about Prince is why. Look at his posts.

This is a really interesting topic. Prince definitly has some very hardcore sexual history. I would even through out there that most of us fans must also to some degree, eh????
And for the record, Jill wasn't being rapped in cabdriver--she was feelin' GOOOOOD!!!

diana7777 said:

I would even through out there that most of us fans must also to some degree, eh????
Clarification: I bet most of us can relate.

Listen to the song 'Billy Jack Bitch' he sounds almost brutal!

wlcm2thdwn said:

Uh,...Bob George. He actually shoots his woman.

" no telling what my foot'll do "


What IS the really erotic unreleased Prince music he refered to in that Loder interview ???

origmnd said:

what song is that?

blackguitaristz said:

yes but again that's a character of an angry guy who even insults prince.

'a women every day should be thanked
not disrespected, not raped or spanked'

mikek1 said:

Uh, yeah,..I know it was a character. It's not the first time that P calls himself names in his own songs. It's in the long version of "Kiss" and in a backward message in the intro of Let's Go Crazy.

"I'm going 2 have 2 torture U now..."


[Edited 11/10/06 13:39pm]

blackguitaristz said:[quote]

mikek1 said:

where?

christos7 said:

what song is that?

Think about this logically.

He either seriously means 'I am going to rape you', which he would be announcing to the whole world on a track of his, which i doubt is a serious statement, or he means it in the context of a trusting sexual relationship and is being a bit kinky. Or it could be a metaphor for something else.


If people want to rape they are hardly going to seriously announce their intentions to the world... come on! He was probably being controversal as well.

mikek1 said:

Automatic.

and "I hate you, but I love you" is just plain WRONG!

Blackguitarist, I've read a couple of your post before and have come to the conclusion that you are about the SMARTEST guy around here!
[Edited 11/11/06 5:54am]

wlcm2thdwn said:

I doubt that. Nobody is smarter than me.

Horny Toad-"all I want is to whip/rub your body, until you start to bleed"

wlcm2thdwn said:

Wow..... Thanx. What do I say to that except for thank u.