JonnyApplesauce said:

Since you are tabulating the fans reaction to Tamar I want to say I have no problems with her & look forward to buying her cd when it comes out. And since its very important to your worldview I am white.

A bunch of the more vocal fans don't like Tamar & suddenly its the whole Prince world has turned against her. Where is a poll of Prince fans to back up the fans dislike of Tamar? Have the majority of Prince fans been asked their opinion or is this "telling" dislike based only on observation?

JonnyApplesauce said:

Since you are tabulating the fans reaction to Tamar I want to say I have no problems with her & look forward to buying her cd when it comes out. And since its very important to your worldview I am white.

A bunch of the more vocal fans don't like Tamar & suddenly its the whole Prince world has turned against her. Where is a poll of Prince fans to back up the fans dislike of Tamar? Have the majority of Prince fans been asked their opinion or is this "telling" dislike based only on observation?

thedoorkeeper said:

The squeaky wheel gets the oil. Ok I'll use your words if youd like. "A bunch of the more vocal fans don't like Tamar". Its still very telling.

JonnyApplesauce said:

I don't think it's fair to target those who dislike her as being racist. Some people just aren't into it and I agree that to say she doesn't have talent is just ridiculous but some folks just aint into it. For those of us who are, let's celebrate the fact that Prince got some talent up in his camp. He could have hired more jughead rappers ya know

thedoorkeeper said:

The squeaky wheel gets the oil. Ok I'll use your words if youd like. "A bunch of the more vocal fans don't like Tamar". Its still very telling.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I've enjoyed Tamar and the rappers. Water seeks its own level.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I've enjoyed Tamar and the rappers. Water seeks its own level.

Um. Either way, she's hot. And Prince's face when she screams at the end is priceless.

Ifsixwuz9 said:

Whatever your point it's bullshit. Susan was not his woman.I didn't hear it come out of his mouth or hers. The one thing I did read in Jet that he was quoted as saying back when he married MAYTE is "everyone thought I would marry VANITY not SUSAN. If she was woman, I repeat why didn't he have her in the forefront or on his arm instead of Vanity! About Nona Gaye, why didn't he marry her instead of Mayte. Pregnant or not he still married what he really prefers which is non-black women. So what he didn't flaunt his relationship with Susannah, but Susannah is still typical Prince. I repeat. You can believe any fantasy bullshit you want.

TheSmyrk said:

Dude. You are confusing two different women. The girl in the Black Sweat video is a dancer named Celestina. Tamar is the girl that performed with him on Saturday Night Live.


Tamar is in the middle behind/between Prince & Steve Martin

(montage courtesy of HQ)

This is Celestina...

Im sorry but Prince RARELY picks good proteges...and this Tamar Chick is no exception...It's not that she cant sing but in my opinion she just sounds so unoriginal...Like i hear her and CANT distinguish her.... she just doesnt have a voice that pops out at me and makes me wanna listen and I could find other female artists' CDs who could make a better effort at being "great soulful music artists"... why waste my money on her when i can pick up a way better India Arie, Erykah Badu, Floetry,Heather Headley, Jill Scott, Lauryn Hill,or Goapele album ??.... I mean seriously would anyone take her seriously or ask for her albums if she wasnt with Prince,for some reason she reminds me of those people from AMERICAN IDOL....like Fantasia and Kelly Clarkson.....UNTIL SHE comes out playing an instrument like a Sheila E or bringing down the house with a funktastic style and energy like Nikka Costa, or making me "feel" her music like a Chaka Khan/Lauryn Hill...I won't be impressed

Im seriously beginning to think he picks these people just so the audience will see how much better he is...kinda like how you go out with your ugly friend so people will notice how much better looking you look in comparison??

Oh and Imma young black chick so nothing racist about my opinion
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Prince seems to be looking for something different always. I guess he sees something in her that some of us don't. Who knows! maybe he just owes her a favor.

mellow1 said:

Prince seems to like helping young women break into the buisness. He seems very nurturing and fatherly that way. Not to say he doesn't have his own agenda like we all do but maybe he just enjoys helping a girl and making her dreams come ture.

Krystal666 said:

My guess is that he thinks she will be a star. Too bad she is a nasty b****.

Prince seems to like helping young women break into the buisness. He seems very nurturing and fatherly that way.

Krystal666 said:

Yarite.

I mean, I love Prince and think he's generally a great guy, but let's keep things real here. I think you're being either very naive or very deluded to truly believe he's helped all these hot young things with their careers in a "fatherly" way, or because he's just naturally nurturing. Please.
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Krystal666 said:

My guess is that he thinks she will be a star. Too bad she is a nasty b****.

BobbyPin said:

You must be thinking of some other lady because the Tamar I saw seems like a lovely young woman.

BobbyPin said:

? ..Did you try and fuck her and she turned you down, bro?

ChristopherTracyParade said:

I wouldn't touch her tart box with her mother's finger that's how unattractive i think she is. Big fat legs and a wig. Yeah. She turned me down.

TurnItUp said:

From DMSR - Prince: The Frist Decade by Per Nilsen

" ....No alcohol, no drugs, nothing", Bobby Z confirms. "He worked. He indulged himself in the music. He played music 12 hours a days and had some girlfriends, that was about it." Prince was often accompanied by Susan Moonsie...whom he met in 1979. Prince took a liking to Susan right away and a romance developed. They were engaged sometime in 1981. "Susan was a very sweet, very intelligent girl, says Roy Bennett. "Prince had a lot of respect for her and they had a great, very close relationship."

The paragraph goes on to talk about how she know he would have other girlfriends and while she didn't like it she didn't make a scene over it. And how other guys did not try to date her because she was with P.

From Prossessed - by Alex Hahn

"The lyrics to "private Joy" were directed to Susan Moonsie, a long time friend who he began dating after the Dirty Mind Tour. Prince had met her in high school and even spent some nights on her family's couch before the Anderson family took him in. When she emereged as his principal romantic interest in late 1980, his associates found her to be an intelligent, gounded, unmanipulative person..."


Regarding "When Does Cry" - "The lyrics tell of romantic loss and abandonment, were somethng of a farewell to Susan Moonsie, Prince's girlfriend of several years."

And while there seems to be some descrepancy as to when he actually me the woman it is known that he did date her.

Anyhoo. Believe what you want.

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Because she is beautiful and she can sing. She is not groundbreaking and I am not denying that but she is the best protege that Prince have since Jill Jones. I think with the proper promotion, she is going to do well particularly in the urban or r&B audience.

I fucking love her performance as a backup singer too and she was getting down with the twins.

I do like Beautiful, Love, and Blessed and I am still trying to remind myself it is hers, not a Prince song. It is uplifting and also very positive. Hell her song blows out the crap that it is out there today.

Unlike half of the people on the org, I am going to buy her new album which comes out on May 7th? Or May 2nd? I am spreading the word about her to my peeps on myspace and they are digging her.

I just hope Prince is going to treat this sista right and not end up screwing her like he did with Jill. But it seems like for now he is very exciting about her and also giving her time to shine.

I don't know either how her and Prince connected yet but we are going to surely find out.

Ifsixwuz9 said:

I'ma believe what I want and that's the truth. When Private Joy was playing on the radio how come we never heard about Susan before and When Doves Cry was hugely popular, it was never mentioned that the song was about Susan and I never heard Susan ever talk of this. I do remember Apollonia saying that The Glamourous Life was a joke about her and I will add yet again that it was Apollonia not Susan that was Prince's leading lady in Purple Rain. Shit Susan didn't even say any lines in the movie, at least Brenda had one line. Plus the first person I ever heard of Prince being engaged to was Susannah, now that was in the press whether he flaunted it or not. Never heard of Susan, I never heard about him and Vanity being engaged. I'm dealing with reality. Prince was not into black women back in the day. At least not in the forefront.