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Reply #90 posted 02/07/06 1:19pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

ChristopherTracyParade said:


Really? Why not?


Leela....I don't know. I kinda had an expectation on her based on reviews and it just didn't match. She seems kinda all over the place to me. Maybe I need to revisit the album.... smile

Please do... wink ...She's what Soul music NEEDED!
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Reply #91 posted 02/07/06 1:24pm

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ChristopherTracyParade said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



Leela....I don't know. I kinda had an expectation on her based on reviews and it just didn't match. She seems kinda all over the place to me. Maybe I need to revisit the album.... smile

Please do... wink ...She's what Soul music NEEDED!

That's what I heard and I didn't agree! biggrin I love soul music so it's not that. I don't know. Something just bothered me about her voice. I think I was expecting something more fluid.
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Reply #92 posted 02/07/06 2:17pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

ChristopherTracyParade said:


Please do... wink ...She's what Soul music NEEDED!

That's what I heard and I didn't agree! biggrin I love soul music so it's not that. I don't know. Something just bothered me about her voice. I think I was expecting something more fluid.

Booo! You suck! razz wink
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Reply #93 posted 02/07/06 2:19pm

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ChristopherTracyParade said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


That's what I heard and I didn't agree! biggrin I love soul music so it's not that. I don't know. Something just bothered me about her voice. I think I was expecting something more fluid.

Booo! You suck! razz wink

You have no idea how well : razz
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Reply #94 posted 02/07/06 2:21pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

ChristopherTracyParade said:


Booo! You suck! razz wink

You have no idea how well : razz

falloff - And your address is WHAT again? razz
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Reply #95 posted 02/07/06 2:24pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

ChristopherTracyParade said:


Please do... wink ...She's what Soul music NEEDED!

That's what I heard and I didn't agree! biggrin I love soul music so it's not that. I don't know. Something just bothered me about her voice. I think I was expecting something more fluid.

maybe prince was expecting the same thing....lol
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Reply #96 posted 02/07/06 3:14pm

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missfee said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


That's what I heard and I didn't agree! biggrin I love soul music so it's not that. I don't know. Something just bothered me about her voice. I think I was expecting something more fluid.

maybe prince was expecting the same thing....lol
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Now, do you mean more FLUID or "something" more FLUID? razz
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Reply #97 posted 02/07/06 3:28pm

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ChristopherTracyParade said:

missfee said:


maybe prince was expecting the same thing....lol
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Now, do you mean more FLUID or "something" more FLUID? razz

falloff i think u know what i mean...falloff
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Reply #98 posted 02/07/06 3:30pm

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I find it interesting that out of all of Prince's weak singing proteges, the Vanity, Appolonias, Carmen Electra, Mayte, that here we have a woman who can sing and some of you are dissing her voice and saying she has no talent.

When asked, no talent in comparison to who, some of you came up with ridiculous examples like Wendy, Lisa and Sheila E who are more instrumentalists than singers and worse yet, Jill Jones who I have not seen in over a decade.

It's one thing to not like the music, but I believe those who claim she's untalented has something personal against her. Just for that reason I really hope she does extremely well with her debut and I'm going to be front and center to support her every way.
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Reply #99 posted 02/07/06 3:32pm

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The intent of anybody working w/ this new artist Tamar is to get money and satisfaction from the publics appreciating her talent. Period. Thats why you saw her Saturday night. Suspicion, accusation and rumor about whoevadafuk shes boning speaks to the issues of the suspicious mofos talking about it. Why is this dark skinned African featured Black woman immediately viewed as Prince's side pussy and yall didnt say jack about women he had doing everything from simulating head to dancing in they drawers to beats he made up in 5 minutes? Almost all of his other proteges learned to perform after he put em in the game. Here we got a bonafide artist and all yall can come w/ is whats the big deal about her? Wth was the big deal about any of the rest of em? Hidden, latent racism, quadruple standard bs as usual.


That's what I'm talking about! People saying she can't sing. Then who can then?
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Reply #100 posted 02/07/06 3:37pm

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wonder505 said:

I find it interesting that out of all of Prince's weak singing proteges, the Vanity, Appolonias, Carmen Electra, Mayte, that here we have a woman who can sing and some of you are dissing her voice and saying she has no talent.

When asked, no talent in comparison to who, some of you came up with ridiculous examples like Wendy, Lisa and Sheila E who are more instrumentalists than singers and worse yet, Jill Jones who I have not seen in over a decade.

It's one thing to not like the music, but I believe those who claim she's untalented has something personal against her. Just for that reason I really hope she does extremely well with her debut and I'm going to be front and center to support her every way.

It is beyond absurd to say she has no talent lol And I get what everyone is saying about the singing but damn, if she came out and sang like shit people would be bitching. Has anybody ever heard of people just singing. She wasn't that sloppy and might be able to have more focus but you could tell her singing means something to her nod And how could she not showcase her ability on national TV?!

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Reply #101 posted 02/07/06 3:44pm

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missfee said:

ChristopherTracyParade said:


Now, do you mean more FLUID or "something" more FLUID? razz

falloff i think u know what i mean...falloff

razz
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Reply #102 posted 02/07/06 3:51pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

It is beyond absurd to say she has no talent lol And I get what everyone is saying about the singing but damn, if she came out and sang like shit people would be bitching. Has anybody ever heard of people just singing. She wasn't that sloppy and might be able to have more focus but you could tell her singing means something to her nod And how could she not showcase her ability on national TV?!

People who say she has no talent are just dumb people who haven't seen her live (and no that crappy SNL performance (crappy compared to the great shows she did prior that week) doesn't count...) and are judging her on a 4 minute performance, that's like judging Sheila E.'s drumming skills by just listening to her play drums to 4 minutes of "Purple Rain"... Quite retarded...

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Reply #103 posted 02/07/06 4:06pm

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How about waiting until her cd is released or
at least wait until the single is circulating
before attcking her.
Give the girl a break.
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Reply #104 posted 02/07/06 4:37pm

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Neversin said:

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So you really think that YOU are the smart one on here...Now that is some funny shit...you should really do comedy..... hah!

You're the racist here, so intelligence is something you haven't got a grasp on... So your retorts are useless...

Neversin.


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Reply #105 posted 02/07/06 4:40pm

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wonder505 said:

I find it interesting that out of all of Prince's weak singing proteges, the Vanity, Appolonias, Carmen Electra, Mayte, that here we have a woman who can sing and some of you are dissing her voice and saying she has no talent.

When asked, no talent in comparison to who, some of you came up with ridiculous examples like Wendy, Lisa and Sheila E who are more instrumentalists than singers and worse yet, Jill Jones who I have not seen in over a decade.

It's one thing to not like the music, but I believe those who claim she's untalented has something personal against her. Just for that reason I really hope she does extremely well with her debut and I'm going to be front and center to support her every way.


EXACTLY!!!! thumbs up!
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Reply #106 posted 02/07/06 4:55pm

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Mr. Doorkeeper,

There is really no need to try to "school" me on the basic tools of sentence structure. I am more than capable of writing complete, and good sentences thank you very much. Futher more I was answering a question from a prior statement, so it does have structure. Now as for you.....well I dont need someone with a GED(if you have that) trying to tell me how to write. Have a nice day!



thedoorkeeper said:

CleopatraJones said:

Because she is good and the girls got talent.Tell me, if Tamar was a lighter skin black female, or white, I bet you would like her more


Repeat after me:
sentence structure
sentence structure
sentence structure

Neither one of your sentences is complete or makes sense.
The first one is incomplete & has no point and your second sentence can't decide if it is a question or a statement.
Here I will correct them for you so you can see your errors:
You all are hating on Tamar because she is good & the girl has talent.
Tell me - if Tamar was a lighter skin black female or white would you like her more?

No need to thank me.
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Reply #107 posted 02/07/06 5:33pm

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Has anyone here thought that maybe, just maybe, Prince may be working with Tamar because she is a decent singer/songwriter and he enjoys collaborating with her? We haven't heard her entire album yet, so perhaps the simple yet obvious answer may be all there is to it.


What you're saying is not completely incompatible with what I said earlier. But the fact remains that even if Prince is collaborating with Tamar for purely artistic reasons, he has to overcome two major perceptions displayed prominently on this thread:

1) Tamar is nothing more than Prince's latest talentless f-buddy that he will soon get tired of.

and

2) Prince is incapable of writing and producing a popular or even "good" album for himself much less another artist.

Judging from some of the responses here and elsewhere Prince has a major challenge ahead to change people's minds. And to those saying Tamar needs vocal training, she attended the High School for the Performing and Visual Arts (HSPVA) in Houston, the same type of school featured in the movie and tv show "Fame". Here is her student profile from the Houston Chronicle website:

http://www.chron.com/cont...ofile.html
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Reply #108 posted 02/07/06 5:33pm

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Mr. Doorkeeper,

There is really no need to try to "school" me on the basic tools of sentence structure. I am more than capable of writing complete, and good sentences thank you very much. Futher more I was answering a question from a prior statement, so it does have structure. Now as for you.....well I dont need someone with a GED(if you have that) trying to tell me how to write. Have a nice day!


Like I said before there really is no need to thank me.
Seeing you write in whole sentences is thanks enough.
Keep up the good work.

P.S. If insulting me makes you feel better well you just go right ahead
and let the fur fly.
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Reply #109 posted 02/07/06 5:42pm

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PEOPLE! Can we focus on the woman and her talent?

Thank you! smile
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Reply #110 posted 02/07/06 6:06pm

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She's alright. She has talent in her area. But to be honest I think I'll always prefer Prince's sexier female protegees. Even if their talent is less I just loved how Prince could take a woman and turn her into Vanity, Apollonia, Carmen and Mayte. He really knows what a sexy woman is. I love sexy people. Some people find that shallow but I don't. I think a truly sexy person is quite facinating. biggrin
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Reply #111 posted 02/07/06 6:10pm

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Krystal666 said:

She's alright. She has talent in her area. But to be honest I think I'll always prefer Prince's sexier female protegees. Even if their talent is less I just loved how Prince could take a woman and turn her into Vanity, Apollonia, Carmen and Mayte. He really knows what a sexy woman is. I love sexy people. Some people find that shallow but I don't. I think a truly sexy person is quite facinating. biggrin

I must fascinate the hell out of you razz
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Reply #112 posted 02/07/06 6:12pm

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Krystal666 said:

She's alright. She has talent in her area. But to be honest I think I'll always prefer Prince's sexier female protegees. Even if their talent is less I just loved how Prince could take a woman and turn her into Vanity, Apollonia, Carmen and Mayte. He really knows what a sexy woman is. I love sexy people. Some people find that shallow but I don't. I think a truly sexy person is quite facinating. biggrin

In other words, you like it when Prince pimps his hoes. biggrin
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Reply #113 posted 02/07/06 6:16pm

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I like Tamar and I tink she has talent...she pretty 2.I have no clue what her n Prince's relationship is like but they just look like friends 2 me shrug
anyway,im coppin her cd;)
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Reply #114 posted 02/07/06 6:18pm

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(LMAO)!!!!! YOU just go too far with the comedy!! Someone please make him stop before I laugh myslef to death!!! Guess you have put me in my place now!!!(LMAO)



doorkeeper said:

CleopatraJones said:

Mr. Doorkeeper,

There is really no need to try to "school" me on the basic tools of sentence structure. I am more than capable of writing complete, and good sentences thank you very much. Futher more I was answering a question from a prior statement, so it does have structure. Now as for you.....well I dont need someone with a GED(if you have that) trying to tell me how to write. Have a nice day!


Like I said before there really is no need to thank me.
Seeing you write in whole sentences is thanks enough.
Keep up the good work.

P.S. If insulting me makes you feel better well you just go right ahead
and let the fur fly.

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Reply #115 posted 02/07/06 9:23pm

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Neversin said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:



I know but you did make an unfair comparison. I'm not trying to be harsh with you or anything but a fair comparison would have been to compare her to other female "so called" vocalists Prince has worked with: Susannah Melvoin, Mayte, Cat, Carmen, Appolonia, Vanity, Susan, Brenda, Jill Jones.

Notice I did not mention Rosie Gaines or Boni Boyer as they also played keyboards.

Jill Jones would wipe the floor with her...
As someone who has seen them both live Jill Jones is the stronger vocalist by a mile, doesn't mean Tamar isn't good...

Neversin.
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This is the single funniest quote of this site to date. Of all the proteges Prince has ever worked w/ there has not ever been this many people up in arms and judgmental about it. What is the one thing thats different about this artist? Her complexion and her features. A whole lot of it is Prince's fault cuz we've know for years his preferences and his ridiculing Black women ie. Christopher Tracy's flashback, his complexion tripping w/ Tricky and his singing "surrounding yourself w/ all the wrong faces" in the Holy River video while showing a afro featured woman. All examples of his own issues but in recent years contrary winds have blown. He realised that he owned none of his music, and additionally was contractually bound to continue to work for snakes who took advantage of him as a kid. He wrote Slave on his face and changed his very name to free himself from the subtle nuanced racism that had controled him w/out his knowledge. He found religion w/ a mentor, a Black man, who pioneered his favorite music, didnt want anything from him, and related to his situation. His web site highlighted an African featured Katrina victim for months. His appearances, band, musical focus, and public interviews have all been far blacker than the elusive, svengali of the 80s. In other words; Prince grew up. Dont look now but hes highlighting an unknown African featured, dark skinned black woman w/ no sexual overones or agenda. People are pissed. Real talk. At last the clouds have parted to show the true sky. deal w/ it. The title of this thread is racsist, mysogenistic, ignorant bullshit. But if I break down what it really is, I'll be banned. On the same day we're burying Coretta Scott King I suggest yall get ready to accept identifyable, unapologetically Black people cuz we are coming stronger than ever.
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Reply #116 posted 02/07/06 10:34pm

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JonnyApplesauce said:

Dont look now but hes highlighting an unknown African featured, dark skinned black woman w/ no sexual overones or agenda. People are pissed. Real talk. At last the clouds have parted to show the true sky. deal w/ it. The title of this thread is racsist, mysogenistic, ignorant bullshit. But if I break down what it really is, I'll be banned. On the same day we're burying Coretta Scott King I suggest yall get ready to accept identifyable, unapologetically Black people cuz we are coming stronger than ever.


You’re not coming strong with this lame ass attempt at race bait. You were the first one to mention anything about race or color, check the thread. Few of us even care about Tamar, much less her skin color; I just want to know why Prince is promoting her so hard. One can only wonder about your perceptions on race when you’re willing to interject Coretta Scott King in a music thread about Tamar.
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Reply #117 posted 02/07/06 10:55pm

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lilgish said:

JonnyApplesauce said:

Dont look now but hes highlighting an unknown African featured, dark skinned black woman w/ no sexual overones or agenda. People are pissed. Real talk. At last the clouds have parted to show the true sky. deal w/ it. The title of this thread is racsist, mysogenistic, ignorant bullshit. But if I break down what it really is, I'll be banned. On the same day we're burying Coretta Scott King I suggest yall get ready to accept identifyable, unapologetically Black people cuz we are coming stronger than ever.


You’re not coming strong with this lame ass attempt at race bait. You were the first one to mention anything about race or color, check the thread. Few of us even care about Tamar, much less her skin color; I just want to know why Prince is promoting her so hard. One can only wonder about your perceptions on race when you’re willing to interject Coretta Scott King in a music thread about Tamar.


Amen. I never knew it was racist to not get excited about an artist of a particular skin color. shrug

I don't think anyone is saying she sucks...maybe they're just tired of protoges, which is the case for me. I'd be more likely to get into her if she weren't a protoge, in all honesty...
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Reply #118 posted 02/07/06 11:39pm

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lilgish said:

I mean, she ain't all that confuse


She sure as hell ain't all that. From what I saw on "Saturday Night Live", she's just like everyone else out there these days...dull and midtempo.
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Reply #119 posted 02/07/06 11:41pm

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Race bait? Theres a 400 year history to racism in the US where this artist hails from. His entire career has revolved around race. Who are you kidding w/ the smokescreen? You all can pretend the rest of your lives no matter. Make me the bad guy. Whatever. The truth will prevail.
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